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| 00:39.37 | Maquis | :( |
| 00:39.53 | Maquis | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:40.34 | Nafai | Woo. Go Utah! |
| 00:40.40 | Maquis | :( |
| 00:41.10 | zzzirk | woohoo |
| 00:42.02 | Nafai | This is the one time I would be rooting for either of those teams. |
| 00:42.14 | Nafai | And because I hate the BCS, I hope that Utah wins. |
| 00:42.35 | Nafai | But, I will add, USU won their game today! :) |
| 00:42.46 | zzzirk | woohoo |
| 00:42.52 | zzzirk | nice, but a bit late... |
| 00:43.13 | Nafai | Hey, we'll take what we can get. |
| 00:43.30 | Maquis | Nafai: any feedback? |
| 00:44.09 | Nafai | Maquis: Oh sorry. I just glanced through it, looks good. Been busy. |
| 00:44.15 | Maquis | that's ok |
| 00:44.18 | Maquis | thanks a ton! |
| 00:44.50 | Maquis | i was just curious because you mentioned that you were looking at it :) |
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| 00:53.07 | Maquis | ack!!! my radio stream died! |
| 00:53.18 | tensai | ~lart Maquis's radio stream |
| 00:53.33 | Maquis | so, last thing i heard was when we got down to the 15 |
| 00:53.36 | tensai | mine started echoing a little bit ago. had to reset to clear it |
| 00:53.38 | zzzirk | touchdown |
| 00:53.48 | zzzirk | watkins in the back of the end zone |
| 00:54.03 | Maquis | zzzirk: so score's even? |
| 00:54.07 | zzzirk | yep |
| 00:54.11 | Maquis | nice! |
| 00:54.23 | zzzirk | ;) |
| 00:54.32 | Maquis | *cough* *cough* |
| 00:54.36 | zzzirk | hehe |
| 00:55.08 | jakea | oh ya, how was that game seeing as I care more about Windows that BYU Football |
| 00:55.18 | jakea | -t+n |
| 00:55.37 | Nafai | Go UTAH! |
| 00:57.16 | Maquis | jakea: this is the first game i've tried to listen to all season |
| 00:57.24 | Maquis | and i'm getting annoyed at the fact that i can't |
| 00:57.55 | Maquis | tensai: i've reset mine like 20 times... |
| 00:58.03 | Maquis | it goes for about 30 seconds, and then dies again |
| 00:58.28 | tensai | Maquis: which stream are you using? |
| 00:59.10 | Maquis | tensai: http://www.byuradio.org/streaming/ |
| 00:59.34 | tensai | Maquis: might try KSL. that's what I'm using. |
| 00:59.49 | Maquis | link? |
| 01:00.09 | zzzirk | man, Smith is a slippery QB |
| 01:00.24 | tensai | Maquis: mp3 is http://icecast.ksl.com:8000 |
| 01:00.41 | tensai | Maquis: real is rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa20.rbn.com/farm/*/kslam/kslam/live/kslam.rm |
| 01:00.56 | tensai | I'm using the real. mp3 was full. luckily mplayer plays real streams |
| 01:01.09 | Maquis | which would xine use? |
| 01:01.23 | tensai | both, as long as the real decoders are installed |
| 01:01.41 | tensai | xine is b0rked in debian testing right now, otherwise that's what I'd be using |
| 01:02.51 | Newsome | Yay, we're losing again! |
| 01:02.59 | zzzirk | hehe |
| 01:03.01 | Maquis | :( |
| 01:03.17 | Maquis | tensai: :( i can't get them to work |
| 01:03.43 | Nafai | Go Utes! |
| 01:03.57 | tensai | Maquis: sorry. I can save it to a WAV file for you. |
| 01:04.02 | zzzirk | hehe |
| 01:04.04 | Maquis | tis ok... |
| 01:04.07 | Newsome | Maybe we can take down the BCS and Crowton at the same time! |
| 01:04.10 | Maquis | i'm going to try a few more things |
| 01:04.19 | Maquis | YAY!!! |
| 01:04.23 | Maquis | i caught that part! |
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| 01:05.02 | tensai | the ksl stream seems to be cutting out all the commercials. that's unexpected but nice |
| 01:05.07 | Maquis | or maybe my stream is behind |
| 01:05.49 | tensai | it's behind too, but it goes dead for the duration of the commercial and then resumes |
| 01:06.09 | Maquis | i seem to be catching mostly commercials |
| 01:06.22 | Nafai | Heh. |
| 01:06.38 | Nafai | Maybe the commercials that tensai should be hearing are being sent to Maquis |
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| 01:09.52 | Maquis | yay!! i got ksl's mp3 stream to work! |
| 01:14.36 | Newsome | oh no |
| 01:14.45 | Maquis | oh! |
| 01:14.53 | zzzirk | that was a nice pick |
| 01:15.00 | zzzirk | BAD choice on Smith's part |
| 01:15.42 | Newsome | yes, it was an excellent pick |
| 01:15.55 | Maquis | that was good too... |
| 01:16.18 | zzzirk | touchdown |
| 01:16.26 | Maquis | zzzirk: you're apparently a second or two ahead of me |
| 01:17.00 | zzzirk | I'm watchin' on ESPN2 |
| 01:17.46 | zzzirk | I have to say... I'm glad the BYU's football team showed up today instead of the high school team that had been masquerading as BYU's football team |
| 01:18.06 | zzzirk | much nicer to have a game instead of watchin' the Utes play the team that got beat by UNLV |
| 01:19.02 | zzzirk | I like it better when both teams are good and it's a good game |
| 01:19.07 | Maquis | agreed |
| 01:19.12 | Nafai | USU beat UNLV btw. |
| 01:19.20 | zzzirk | nice |
| 01:19.31 | Nafai | And considering our season this year, I'm suprised that UNLV then went on to beat BYU |
| 01:19.34 | zzzirk | was that one of the two games they won this year? ;) |
| 01:19.55 | zzzirk | I felt bad for USU for their season |
| 01:19.58 | Maquis | :( |
| 01:20.29 | Maquis | we've had some problems this year and last year.... |
| 01:20.29 | Nafai | zzzirk: Hey, we've won 3, including today's. We also beat Idaho. |
| 01:20.29 | Nafai | All 3 at home |
| 01:20.30 | zzzirk | oh, I didn't realize it was 3 |
| 01:20.34 | Nafai | Oh wait. No UNLV was there |
| 01:20.43 | zzzirk | sorry, I really thought it was only 2 |
| 01:20.49 | Nafai | That's fine. |
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| 01:20.56 | zzzirk | they've just had a bad year... |
| 01:21.04 | Nafai | Hopefully next year will be better. Hopefully we get a good new coach. |
| 01:21.09 | Nafai | Joining the WAC will be interesting |
| 01:21.15 | zzzirk | yeah, it will |
| 01:21.27 | zzzirk | very nice |
| 01:21.34 | zzzirk | man, the cougs just kept missing him |
| 01:21.43 | Newsome | good run after the catch |
| 01:21.58 | zzzirk | no kidding |
| 01:22.17 | Maquis | ack! can't get this level |
| 01:22.34 | zzzirk | this level? |
| 01:22.53 | zzzirk | 1st down |
| 01:23.14 | zzzirk | so Maquis, are you a current student at the Y or an alum or what? |
| 01:23.45 | Maquis | zzzirk: current student |
| 01:24.15 | zzzirk | WHOA! |
| 01:24.20 | zzzirk | just about got another pick |
| 01:24.21 | Newsome | that was odd |
| 01:24.26 | Maquis | what happened? |
| 01:24.40 | zzzirk | #33 just about picked another pass from Alex Smith |
| 01:24.47 | Newsome | interception, then he dropped it. called incomplete |
| 01:24.53 | zzzirk | it was incomplete |
| 01:24.58 | zzzirk | the replay showed it |
| 01:24.58 | Newsome | he never readlly had it |
| 01:25.05 | zzzirk | nope, not quite |
| 01:25.31 | Maquis | i have enough trouble following football while watching it |
| 01:25.32 | zzzirk | who's #33 for the cougs? |
| 01:25.53 | zzzirk | anyway, Alex Smith (utes) threw the ball and #33 almost picked it off |
| 01:25.58 | Newsome | first down |
| 01:26.02 | Newsome | good fake |
| 01:26.03 | zzzirk | heh, fake punt and the Utes got a first |
| 01:26.15 | Maquis | uh oh |
| 01:26.40 | zzzirk | so Maquis, you're a female who is watching (or listening) to football, and you're using IRC... that's kind of a bit of an odd combination... |
| 01:26.44 | zzzirk | not bad, just surprising |
| 01:26.52 | Maquis | haha |
| 01:26.56 | Maquis | i'm also a cs major |
| 01:27.00 | zzzirk | very nice |
| 01:27.12 | Maquis | :) |
| 01:27.13 | zzzirk | I wondered as much actually |
| 01:27.22 | zzzirk | that's totally cool... |
| 01:27.27 | Maquis | thanks :) |
| 01:27.30 | Maquis | i enjoy it... |
| 01:27.37 | zzzirk | When I was going to school I always wished there were more females in CS |
| 01:27.52 | Maquis | me too... |
| 01:27.52 | zzzirk | Utes are gonna score again here in a sec |
| 01:27.53 | zzzirk | ;) |
| 01:28.12 | zzzirk | nearly half time |
| 01:28.45 | Maquis | hold them off... |
| 01:28.56 | zzzirk | NO |
| 01:28.57 | zzzirk | ;) |
| 01:29.02 | zzzirk | gonna score right NOW |
| 01:29.09 | zzzirk | touchdown for A Smith |
| 01:29.10 | zzzirk | :D |
| 01:29.12 | zzzirk | told ya |
| 01:29.17 | Maquis | :( |
| 01:29.20 | Maquis | :'( |
| 01:29.30 | Nafai | Yay! |
| 01:29.34 | zzzirk | hehe |
| 01:30.05 | Maquis | ~whimper |
| 01:30.07 | ibot | ACTION huddles in the corner, whimpering softly. |
| 01:30.43 | Maquis | i think ibot might need that more... |
| 01:30.52 | Maquis | |lart byu's football team.... |
| 01:31.06 | Maquis | ummm... that might not help |
| 01:31.24 | Maquis | haha |
| 01:32.23 | Nafai | As fun as this is, I'm leaving. Going to an Institute dance. |
| 01:32.27 | Nafai | Go Utes! |
| 01:32.34 | Maquis | Nafai: have fun :) |
| 01:32.38 | zzzirk | I'll keep cheering for ya Nafai |
| 01:32.40 | zzzirk | ;) |
| 01:32.48 | Maquis | one fewer ute in the channel |
| 01:33.04 | zzzirk | nah, he's an aggie... he's only a temporary ute |
| 01:33.05 | zzzirk | :) |
| 01:33.13 | Maquis | eh... |
| 01:33.32 | Maquis | go cougs :) |
| 01:34.07 | zzzirk | I have to say I find it bothersome how much the ESPN announcers have made such a big deal about how many of the Cougars are married |
| 01:34.12 | zzzirk | sheesh, like it matt3ers] |
| 01:34.20 | zzzirk | nice play for the cougs |
| 01:35.25 | zzzirk | whew |
| 01:35.31 | zzzirk | BYU just about got a fumble called on 'em |
| 01:35.35 | zzzirk | but it was incomplete |
| 01:35.43 | Maquis | what's the difference? |
| 01:35.56 | zzzirk | incomplete pass can't be picked up |
| 01:35.59 | Maquis | ok... |
| 01:36.05 | zzzirk | a fumble could have been recovered by the Utes |
| 01:36.09 | Maquis | ah... |
| 01:36.11 | zzzirk | and the Utes had the ball |
| 01:36.22 | zzzirk | BYU was lucky it was called an incomplete pass |
| 01:37.58 | zzzirk | NICE |
| 01:38.03 | Newsome | yeah |
| 01:38.05 | zzzirk | 4th down incomplete pass |
| 01:38.50 | zzzirk | damn, Smith slipped... |
| 01:40.03 | zzzirk | woohooo, Utes up at half |
| 01:41.13 | Newsome | whoa |
| 01:41.26 | zzzirk | whoa what? |
| 01:41.38 | Newsome | hockey game broke aout at South Carolina v. Clemson |
| 01:41.41 | zzzirk | yeah |
| 01:41.48 | zzzirk | I saw that earlier in the day |
| 01:41.51 | zzzirk | that was just sad |
| 01:42.04 | zzzirk | and it was sad considering what happened in the NBA last night |
| 01:42.26 | Newsome | wow |
| 01:42.35 | zzzirk | yeah, that was really ugly as well |
| 01:44.49 | zzzirk | ya know, the bad news for the cougs is that the Utes get the ball first in the second half |
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| 02:02.03 | zzzirk | very nice run |
| 02:06.02 | Maquis | wait.. what are they trying to do? |
| 02:06.24 | zzzirk | the Y's defense held the Utes |
| 02:06.28 | zzzirk | they're kicking a field goal |
| 02:06.31 | Maquis | ok |
| 02:06.42 | zzzirk | it's good |
| 02:06.45 | zzzirk | 24-14 |
| 02:06.57 | Maquis | k |
| 02:08.32 | Maquis | wsu is beating uw? |
| 02:08.49 | zzzirk | WSU == Washington State and UW is Univ. of Washington |
| 02:08.54 | Maquis | yeah |
| 02:09.05 | Maquis | uw is cool |
| 02:09.06 | zzzirk | I think they are |
| 02:10.32 | zzzirk | whoa, Beck slipped |
| 02:10.38 | zzzirk | hit the turf about 7 yards back |
| 02:10.58 | zzzirk | yeah, WSU is up of UW by score of 21-10 |
| 02:11.17 | zzzirk | TOUCHDOWN |
| 02:11.25 | Newsome | ouch |
| 02:11.26 | zzzirk | the Utes picked up a fumble on the 5 or 10 and scored |
| 02:11.34 | Maquis | hey zzzirk stop spoiling the game! :) |
| 02:11.43 | zzzirk | heh, sorry |
| 02:11.44 | zzzirk | :( |
| 02:11.49 | zzzirk | I'll keep quiet |
| 02:11.53 | Maquis | i see "TOUCHDOWN" and then 4 seconds later the radio says "Touchdown" |
| 02:11.54 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:12.01 | Maquis | no... it's ok... i'm just teasing |
| 02:12.11 | Maquis | how did utah get a touchdown? |
| 02:12.23 | Maquis | was there an interception? or was i confused? |
| 02:12.24 | zzzirk | BYU fumbled on the 5 yard line |
| 02:12.29 | Maquis | ok |
| 02:12.30 | zzzirk | dropped the ball |
| 02:12.41 | zzzirk | the utes picked it up and ran it in... |
| 02:12.46 | zzzirk | from the 10 excuse me |
| 02:12.46 | Maquis | so, 31-14? |
| 02:12.53 | zzzirk | yep |
| 02:13.02 | Maquis | :( |
| 02:13.14 | zzzirk | so now we need a field goal... and you guys need 2 touchdowns and a field goal to make it 34-31 |
| 02:13.15 | zzzirk | :D |
| 02:13.17 | zzzirk | bwahahahahaha |
| 02:13.35 | zzzirk | that might be lost on you I guess |
| 02:13.37 | zzzirk | sorry |
| 02:13.48 | Maquis | yeah.. what's special about 34-31? |
| 02:14.03 | zzzirk | heh, the Utes won two years in a row by that score back in the 90s |
| 02:14.09 | zzzirk | exact same score both years |
| 02:14.12 | zzzirk | was just kinda funny |
| 02:14.17 | Maquis | ah |
| 02:15.07 | zzzirk | :) |
| 02:15.39 | Maquis | zzzirk: ??? |
| 02:15.55 | zzzirk | sorry, don't wanna ruin your audio feed :) |
| 02:15.57 | zzzirk | hehe |
| 02:16.02 | Maquis | tis ok |
| 02:16.12 | Maquis | what were you biting your tongue about? |
| 02:16.21 | zzzirk | just that the kick-off went out of bounds |
| 02:16.30 | zzzirk | wasn't gonna say anything |
| 02:16.38 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 02:16.59 | shadoi | football schmootball |
| 02:17.42 | zzzirk | gotta love your convictions :) |
| 02:17.54 | shadoi | umm. yeah. |
| 02:18.01 | Maquis | personal foul on who? |
| 02:18.08 | zzzirk | on the Utes |
| 02:18.08 | Maquis | ??? |
| 02:18.11 | Maquis | ah... |
| 02:18.12 | Maquis | ok |
| 02:18.16 | Maquis | that's good |
| 02:18.16 | zzzirk | I dunno any more than that |
| 02:18.29 | zzzirk | stopped short of the 1st down |
| 02:18.51 | Maquis | rugby is better in that area... don't have to worry about fouls... |
| 02:19.10 | zzzirk | yeah |
| 02:19.37 | Maquis | womens lacrosse has fouls... but it's gotta be pretty obvious to get called.. at least when i played... |
| 02:20.25 | zzzirk | BYU |
| 02:20.27 | zzzirk | touchdown |
| 02:20.29 | zzzirk | 4 |
| 02:20.29 | zzzirk | 3 |
| 02:20.29 | zzzirk | 2 |
| 02:20.30 | zzzirk | 1 |
| 02:20.32 | zzzirk | go Maquis |
| 02:20.33 | zzzirk | :) |
| 02:20.38 | Maquis | YAY!!!!!!! |
| 02:20.45 | Newsome | wow, good catch |
| 02:20.50 | zzzirk | yeah, it was a great play |
| 02:21.02 | zzzirk | hey and look... Payne actually hit one |
| 02:21.04 | zzzirk | :) |
| 02:21.30 | Maquis | why do they say "back to a two-score game"? |
| 02:21.49 | zzzirk | because BYU could pull ahead by scoring twice |
| 02:21.57 | Maquis | oh |
| 02:21.59 | zzzirk | a touchdown and a field goal puts them even |
| 02:22.04 | Maquis | ok |
| 02:22.07 | Maquis | that makes sense |
| 02:22.26 | zzzirk | it's kind of a means of measuring how much BYU is down by and how much they'd have to do to get back the lead or tie |
| 02:22.29 | Newsome | two scores is doable in nearly any game |
| 02:22.39 | zzzirk | yeah, with this much time it is for sure |
| 02:22.42 | Maquis | so if utah got another field goal, would it become a "2.5 score game" |
| 02:22.49 | zzzirk | 3 minutes left 2 scores is a bit more of a challenge |
| 02:23.02 | zzzirk | no, it's then a two touchdown game |
| 02:23.14 | zzzirk | two touchdowns would put BYU ahead in that case |
| 02:23.15 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:25.48 | Mecworks | Go UTES! |
| 02:25.52 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 02:26.03 | zzzirk | woohoo, more Utes fans!!! |
| 02:26.04 | zzzirk | :) |
| 02:26.10 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 02:26.10 | shadoi | Go Navajos! |
| 02:26.17 | Mecworks | hm |
| 02:26.30 | zzzirk | oh man |
| 02:26.35 | zzzirk | Savoy should have caught that one |
| 02:28.11 | zzzirk | interception |
| 02:28.22 | Maquis | ack! i'm lost... |
| 02:28.31 | zzzirk | BYU intercepted the ball |
| 02:28.34 | zzzirk | so BYU now has the ball |
| 02:28.35 | Maquis | oh... ok |
| 02:28.37 | Maquis | yay! |
| 02:28.54 | zzzirk | but then they had a foul so they just don't get as close to the end zone as they would have |
| 02:28.58 | Maquis | ok |
| 02:29.21 | Newsome | hahaha |
| 02:29.24 | zzzirk | and Utah just intercepted BYU |
| 02:29.28 | zzzirk | so now we have the ball back |
| 02:29.29 | Mecworks | the score is closer that I'd thought it would be... |
| 02:29.30 | zzzirk | :) |
| 02:29.42 | zzzirk | yeah, the first half was kinda slow really |
| 02:29.44 | Maquis | so we're just throwing the ball back and forth to each other |
| 02:29.48 | zzzirk | the second half has been much faster paced |
| 02:29.56 | zzzirk | Maquis: hehe, yeah |
| 02:30.18 | zzzirk | GO GO GO |
| 02:30.19 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:30.22 | zzzirk | touchdown!!!!! |
| 02:30.27 | zzzirk | Ute's just scored |
| 02:30.29 | zzzirk | 95 yards |
| 02:30.31 | Newsome | haha |
| 02:30.32 | Maquis | 25 |
| 02:30.35 | Maquis | touchdown! |
| 02:31.08 | zzzirk | 38-21 Utes |
| 02:32.03 | Mecworks | saweet! |
| 02:32.12 | zzzirk | that was a GREAT |
| 02:32.14 | zzzirk | run |
| 02:32.15 | zzzirk | oops |
| 02:32.18 | Maquis | what happened? |
| 02:32.28 | zzzirk | the Utes just scored on a 92 yard run |
| 02:32.31 | zzzirk | 1 play |
| 02:32.39 | Maquis | scored again? |
| 02:32.51 | zzzirk | and the cougs got creamed on the kick off |
| 02:33.07 | zzzirk | no, just a minute ago |
| 02:33.17 | zzzirk | score is 38-21 |
| 02:33.20 | Maquis | ok |
| 02:55.10 | zzzirk | woohoo |
| 02:55.24 | zzzirk | another score for the Utes |
| 03:21.14 | Maquis | zzzirk: what's the score? |
| 03:28.01 | Maquis | why are they letting them rush the field? |
| 03:31.44 | zzzirk | 52-21 |
| 03:31.50 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:31.53 | Maquis | :( |
| 03:32.53 | hans | not over yet? who's ahead? |
| 03:33.03 | emcnabb | go Utes! |
| 03:33.10 | Maquis | hans: it's over |
| 03:33.15 | Maquis | :( |
| 03:33.25 | Maquis | |lart emcnabb |
| 03:37.07 | hans | can someone explain in 20 words or less what snmp is and what it's good for? |
| 03:53.18 | Maquis | does anyone know a way that i can have Esetroot randomly pick one file out of a directory? |
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| 04:00.14 | tensai | hans: a protocol for sending questions and answers |
| 04:00.32 | shadoi | Maquis: with a script... :) |
| 04:00.47 | shadoi | Maquis: are you using enlightenment? |
| 04:01.18 | tensai | hans: really handy for monitoring system performance. also useful for modifying configurations. |
| 04:01.57 | tensai | hans: pm me and I'll give you some more detailed answers with examples |
| 04:02.53 | Maquis | shadoi: evilwm |
| 04:05.39 | shadoi | Maquis: eww, I hope it's a lot prettier than the screenshots I see. |
| 04:06.28 | Maquis | shadoi: i like it better than any other wms i've found, but i suppose that it's not "pretty" in the way that some of the others are... |
| 04:06.34 | Maquis | it depends on what you like :) |
| 04:07.05 | Maquis | so, is there a way to do this with a bash script? |
| 04:07.23 | Maquis | or what would you recommend that i use? |
| 04:07.28 | shadoi | I'd use an array and then loop and pick a random number |
| 04:07.44 | shadoi | I'd use enlightenment, since I do. |
| 04:07.45 | shadoi | :) |
| 04:07.48 | Maquis | haha |
| 04:07.53 | Maquis | ok... |
| 04:07.58 | shadoi | Esetroot is an enlightenment tool |
| 04:08.06 | Maquis | thanks... from there, i think i can google and figure stuff out |
| 04:08.14 | Maquis | yeah... it is, but evilwm uses it to set the background :) |
| 04:08.15 | shadoi | I work on the project |
| 04:08.19 | Maquis | really? |
| 04:08.24 | Maquis | that's pretty sweet! :) |
| 04:08.25 | shadoi | yeah |
| 04:08.49 | shadoi | dr17 will rock |
| 04:08.56 | Maquis | dr17?? |
| 04:09.03 | shadoi | the next release |
| 04:09.09 | Maquis | ah... |
| 04:09.11 | Maquis | cool! |
| 04:09.13 | shadoi | It'll be a desktop shell, not just a WM |
| 04:09.23 | hans | Maquis: tried ion yet? |
| 04:09.24 | Maquis | enlightenment? |
| 04:09.29 | Maquis | hans: no... i haven't |
| 04:09.34 | shadoi | yeah |
| 04:10.02 | Maquis | i'm kind of interested in messing a bit with the code to evilwm since it's so small... maybe see what i can learn from that :) |
| 04:10.08 | shadoi | http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-01.avi |
| 04:10.10 | Maquis | that's part of why i haven't tried much else |
| 04:10.15 | shadoi | that's an early build |
| 04:10.53 | hans | |host www.rasterman.com |
| 04:10.54 | brigham | www.rasterman.com is an alias for www.vergenet.net. |
| 04:10.55 | brigham | www.vergenet.net has address 12.161.105.164 |
| 04:11.46 | shadoi | If you're using debian I have an APT repository... see http://edevelop.org for my blog entry about it. |
| 04:12.13 | Maquis | shadoi: the movie isn't coming through... |
| 04:12.36 | shadoi | Maquis: sometimes the connection is slow |
| 04:12.38 | shadoi | to his site |
| 04:13.09 | shadoi | It's also mpeg4, so you may need better codecs |
| 04:15.36 | Maquis | ah... |
| 04:19.29 | Patater | have you guys compiled mplayer before? |
| 04:19.35 | Patater | I'm having some errors |
| 04:19.47 | Patater | perhaps I need some other software before I compile mplayer? |
| 04:19.55 | shadoi | chances are good... |
| 04:22.02 | Maquis | Patater: what distro? |
| 04:22.51 | Patater | I'm on Gentoo |
| 04:23.09 | Patater | I use the emerge command, but to no avail |
| 04:23.15 | Maquis | Patater: is it not in portage? |
| 04:23.19 | Maquis | ah... |
| 04:23.20 | Patater | it is in portage |
| 04:23.28 | Patater | but the compiling errors out |
| 04:23.43 | Patater | do I need to set some USE flags or anything, do you know? |
| 04:23.46 | Maquis | probably not a dependency problem then... |
| 04:23.48 | Maquis | i don't... |
| 04:24.03 | Patater | alright |
| 04:24.09 | Patater | I did get X working fine |
| 04:24.31 | Maquis | yay! |
| 04:24.31 | Patater | I had just forgotten, somehow, to not compile radeon support into my kernel |
| 04:24.41 | Maquis | that's been a struggle for my gentoo installs |
| 04:24.50 | Patater | kernel config? |
| 04:24.56 | Maquis | X |
| 04:24.59 | Patater | ah |
| 04:25.14 | Patater | I looked at this rasterman video |
| 04:25.20 | Maquis | my desktop still doesn't have it quite right, but i generally only use the desktop over ssh |
| 04:25.22 | Patater | it looks quite nice |
| 04:25.43 | Patater | its some new windowing environment? |
| 04:26.43 | shadoi | Patater: yes |
| 04:27.04 | Patater | shadoi: neato |
| 04:27.27 | Patater | shadoi: i like the drop shadows |
| 04:27.38 | Patater | they are nice |
| 04:27.50 | shadoi | yeah.. and they're about 500X faster than XOrg's composite |
| 04:28.38 | Patater | could it run on my mac with gentoo? |
| 04:28.50 | shadoi | yes, some of the developers run OS X |
| 04:28.57 | Patater | wow |
| 04:29.24 | Patater | I guess they know some japanese too, from the looks of their website |
| 04:30.28 | Maquis | Patater: what are you using for your windowing environment? |
| 04:31.12 | Patater | Maquis: I have gnome up now, but I'm not sure I like it so much. I'm might be looking into fluxbox sometime. |
| 04:31.28 | Maquis | Patater: evilwm :) |
| 04:31.44 | shadoi | The lead developer is living in Tokyo |
| 04:31.58 | Patater | Maquis: Gnome? yeah. not so great. |
| 04:32.20 | Patater | shadoi: are you developing too? |
| 04:32.25 | shadoi | Patater: here and there |
| 04:32.32 | Maquis | Patater: no... there's something called evilwm |
| 04:32.34 | Maquis | it's cool |
| 04:32.47 | Patater | Maquis: ah, okay |
| 04:32.57 | Maquis | evilwm.sourceforge.net |
| 04:34.16 | Patater | Maquis: is it very customizable so far as control placements and window borders? |
| 04:34.35 | Maquis | what controls? |
| 04:34.38 | Patater | it just looks like no borders |
| 04:34.38 | Maquis | window borders? |
| 04:34.39 | Patater | yeah |
| 04:34.42 | Maquis | well, you could change the color |
| 04:34.51 | Maquis | i personally like the gold for the active window :) |
| 04:34.55 | Patater | I like controls and borders |
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| 04:35.08 | Maquis | :-D |
| 04:35.15 | Patater | but I'd like to customize |
| 04:35.26 | Patater | gnome isn't so good at that, it seems |
| 04:35.27 | shadoi | Patater: enlightenment 0.16.7.2 is nice and usable. |
| 04:36.08 | shadoi | er make that 0.16.7.1 |
| 04:36.12 | shadoi | 2 isn't released |
| 04:36.26 | Patater | shadoi: I'll check it out |
| 04:36.52 | shadoi | http://enlightenment.org/pages/shots.html |
| 04:37.56 | hans | that video looks cool, but is it configurable to be much less cute? as in, I like simplicity, a la window maker and fvwm |
| 04:38.32 | hans | i also like a quick launch area (like osx, which is what i see in that vid) and a slit/dock sort of thing for things like gkrellm and dockapps |
| 04:38.38 | shadoi | hans: it's more themeable than anything else ever has been. |
| 04:38.38 | Patater | shadoi: can I customize my controls and titlebar around to be on the bottom of the window? |
| 04:39.05 | hans | shadoi: and fast? on slow hardware? |
| 04:39.19 | shadoi | hans: it runs on handhelds. :) |
| 04:40.09 | hans | shadoi: is it usable now? how is dual-screen support? |
| 04:40.17 | shadoi | hans: no, not for a while. |
| 04:40.27 | shadoi | it's not even in CVS yet.... heh |
| 04:40.31 | hans | I should have known. it _is_ E. ;-) |
| 04:40.39 | shadoi | yup yup |
| 04:40.57 | shadoi | it'll be release when it's ready, it'll be ready when it's done. |
| 04:41.01 | hans | doesn't E hold some sort of record? |
| 04:41.16 | shadoi | well I think it's a close tie with Duke Nuke'em |
| 04:41.57 | shadoi | hans: the foundation libraries are almost complete and they're what's taken so long. The WM and the rest of the desktop components are coming along quickly now. |
| 04:42.09 | Patater | shadoi: can I make the bottom of left of the window hold the close minimize expand buttons? |
| 04:42.22 | shadoi | Patater: it's theme defined |
| 04:43.13 | Patater | shadoi: how can I make themese for enlightenment? |
| 04:43.55 | shadoi | http://enlightenment.org/pages/faq-general.html#Themes |
| 04:44.06 | shadoi | at the bottom |
| 04:44.25 | Patater | thanks |
| 04:48.40 | hans | shadoi: so dr16 is the current version, right? does it do xinerama/twinview/ |
| 04:52.36 | Patater | do you guys know of a good incremental downloader? |
| 04:53.15 | Patater | I could write my own, but someone probably already has made a good enough one. |
| 04:55.22 | shadoi | hans: yes |
| 04:55.33 | shadoi | Patater: incremental as in resumes? |
| 04:55.34 | shadoi | wget |
| 04:55.36 | shadoi | lftp |
| 05:03.25 | Patater | shadoi: no, as in goes to some photo website and the downloads a bunch of pictures like: ~/icon001.png, ~/icon002.png and so on |
| 05:04.04 | shadoi | Patater: lftp is great for that, wget can mirror an entire site. |
| 05:04.22 | shadoi | lftp can do wildcards |
| 05:04.23 | Patater | oh, sweet |
| 05:04.48 | Patater | can wget mirror a site even if directory listing is not allowed? |
| 05:05.54 | shadoi | if there are links to to the files in the pages, then yes. |
| 05:06.03 | Patater | sweet |
| 05:06.22 | Patater | and you can tell it to only mirror *.png files or whatnot? |
| 05:06.33 | shadoi | lftp can |
| 05:06.40 | shadoi | but not sure about recursively |
| 05:06.44 | Patater | and it can mirror too? |
| 05:07.31 | shadoi | haven't used it to |
| 05:07.36 | Patater | oh |
| 05:08.02 | shadoi | wget won't do wildcards, but will mirror, lftp will do wildcards, not sure about mirroring. |
| 05:08.13 | Patater | not recursively? hmmm... what do you mean? you have to mirror a webpage with recursion... |
| 05:08.33 | Patater | perhaps I should write my own mirroring app |
| 05:08.41 | shadoi | go for it |
| 05:08.58 | Patater | after finals, I should have some time |
| 05:09.22 | Patater | maybe i can make a script that uses lftp, but nah, I'll just make my own |
| 05:10.06 | Patater | I have only done internet programming with java, so maybe it won't be the best or fastest one, but it will do what I'll need. |
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| 05:27.24 | Patater | goodnight all |
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| 06:31.49 | Maquis | ok... so this shouldn't be hard at all, but i'm failing miserably at it |
| 06:31.56 | Maquis | how do i increment a variable in a bash script? |
| 06:32.22 | Maquis | currently, i have: count=$count+1; |
| 06:32.52 | Maquis | but that's just treating it all like a string and concatenating +1 to the end |
| 06:33.21 | Maquis | in my googling, it seems that everything says to use +=, but that's just throwing errors when i try to run it |
| 06:33.32 | shadoi | Maquis: spaces |
| 06:34.10 | Elimist | Anyone here an xorg guru? |
| 06:34.24 | Maquis | shadoi: what are the spaces supposed to be like? |
| 06:34.36 | shadoi | Maquis: hah.. hang on, I'll figure out what I meant |
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| 06:40.41 | shadoi | holy crap I can't remember how to do this |
| 06:41.24 | Maquis | shadoi: and i can't figure it out |
| 06:41.36 | Maquis | i swear i've tried 5-million different things! |
| 06:43.51 | shadoi | B=$(($A + 1)) |
| 06:44.09 | shadoi | I kept forgetting the $ |
| 06:44.17 | Maquis | ummm... |
| 06:44.17 | shadoi | before the braces |
| 06:44.28 | Maquis | shouldn't incrementing a variable be easy? |
| 06:44.30 | shadoi | that makes B=2 |
| 06:45.10 | Maquis | anyway, thanks a ton! |
| 06:45.46 | shadoi | you let |
| 06:45.51 | shadoi | I mean use "let" |
| 06:45.56 | Maquis | use let? |
| 06:45.58 | shadoi | let VAR=VAR+1 |
| 06:46.05 | Maquis | oh... does that do it too? |
| 06:46.09 | shadoi | yeah |
| 06:46.13 | Maquis | ah... |
| 06:46.16 | Maquis | ok... thanks |
| 06:46.23 | Maquis | that's slightly more intuitive :) |
| 06:46.24 | shadoi | the other is for generic arithmetic |
| 06:49.04 | shadoi | ooh I think ++VAR works too |
| 06:49.15 | Maquis | ah... |
| 06:49.23 | Maquis | i thought i tried that... |
| 06:49.29 | Maquis | or at least i tried count++ |
| 06:49.33 | Maquis | and $count++ |
| 06:49.47 | shadoi | hmm |
| 06:53.16 | shadoi | use let for that too |
| 06:53.58 | shadoi | let VAR++ |
| 06:54.24 | shadoi | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ops.html |
| 06:54.41 | shadoi | section 8-2 has the goods |
| 07:01.07 | Maquis | thanks |
| 07:18.00 | Maquis | sweet!!! the script works!!!! |
| 07:27.21 | LeviHome | hans: SNMP is evil. |
| 07:27.48 | LeviHome | hans: Make any progress with squeak/seaside? |
| 07:37.15 | goozbach | |lart dialup |
| 07:37.24 | Maquis | hi goo!!!! |
| 07:37.30 | goozbach | stuipid parent's computers |
| 07:37.36 | Maquis | :) |
| 07:37.54 | goozbach | it took like two hours to get it to a point wherein i could connect |
| 07:38.42 | goozbach | |urls |
| 07:38.43 | brigham | [2004/11/20 23:54:25] <shadoi> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ops.html |
| 07:38.43 | brigham | [2004/11/20 21:44:00] <shadoi> http://enlightenment.org/pages/faq-general.html#Themes |
| 07:38.43 | brigham | [2004/11/20 21:36:53] <shadoi> http://enlightenment.org/pages/shots.html |
| 07:38.43 | brigham | [2004/11/20 21:11:47] <shadoi> http://edevelop.org |
| 07:44.48 | shadoi | heh |
| 07:44.51 | shadoi | what!? |
| 08:45.11 | ilovebees | unfortunately E ended up like the rest of the window managers--stagnant. It had some great improvements e13-15, but for the last few years only very minor improvements like window maker and the other traditional WMs |
| 08:47.01 | ilovebees | Actually it's strongest point was always the originality of its themes, which it has sense lost. in the e14 and e15 days everyone was coming out with great themes for E and then everyone else would copy them to the other managers. these days good e themes are far and few between. |
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