| 00:00.18 | xbmodder | ya |
| 00:00.33 | xbmodder | someone can hold you at gun point until you let them in... |
| 00:01.23 | jsmith | Bradipo: But then I'd starve! |
| 00:02.17 | Bradipo | sjansen: Maybe they should make you wear special contacts that cryptographically modify your retina pattern.... |
| 00:02.20 | xbmodder | > |
| 00:02.30 | xbmodder | Bradipo, GREAT IDEA |
| 00:02.34 | xbmodder | GO GPL IT!!!!!! |
| 00:04.18 | jsmith | Hmmmn... food. |
| 00:04.42 | sjansen | jsmith: Food is over rated. Sleep is where it's at. ;-) |
| 00:05.29 | jsmith | sjansen: A doughnut is worth a half-hour of sleep -- I'll give you that much! |
| 00:06.06 | jsmith | At least with food you can build up an excess, and carry it around with you |
| 00:06.12 | Maquis | mmmmmm sleep..... |
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| 00:11.35 | Newsome | Good job. No start on your green beans! |
| 00:12.05 | tensai | I think watering them from the garden hose would be simpler |
| 00:12.14 | vontrapp | haha |
| 00:17.29 | xbmodder | :O |
| 00:25.06 | sjansen | hmmm reese's pieces |
| 00:26.30 | Maquis | mmmm |
| 00:27.37 | shadoi | silly geese |
| 00:27.59 | Maquis | shadoi: don't mess with the Maquis |
| 00:28.18 | shadoi | har har |
| 00:28.55 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:29.08 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:29.20 | |rufius| | why do you always get the good ones :( |
| 00:29.22 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:29.27 | |rufius| | ewww |
| 00:29.30 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:29.35 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:29.38 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:29.40 | sjansen-disruptd | Maquis: When did you start growing a beard? |
| 00:29.47 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:29.48 | Maquis | |lart sjansen-disruptd |
| 00:30.00 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:30.08 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:30.09 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:30.10 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:30.11 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:30.11 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:30.18 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:30.22 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:30.22 | |rufius| | wha |
| 00:31.00 | |rufius| | wha |
| 00:31.02 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:31.04 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:31.08 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
| 00:32.08 | |rufius| | |lart Maquis |
| 00:32.15 | Maquis | |lart |rufius| |
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| 00:45.55 | goozbach | |lart larting |
| 00:46.01 | goozbach | ohh good one |
| 00:46.09 | goozbach | don't think I've seen that one yet. |
| 00:46.26 | shadoi | nettle isn't it? |
| 00:46.58 | shadoi | lart typo! |
| 00:46.59 | shadoi | heh |
| 00:49.12 | synic | what perl module would you guys recommend for parsing a very simple xml file? |
| 00:50.26 | Maquis | goozbach: you obviously don't lart enough if you haven't seen that one :) |
| 00:51.29 | Maquis | shadoi: you're correct |
| 00:51.31 | Maquis | it's nettle |
| 00:53.07 | macnewbold | synic: I'm sure CPAN will have several to choose from... I'd guess it's called XML or XML::Parse or something similar... |
| 00:53.23 | synic | well, that's the problem... CPAN has tons to choose from |
| 00:53.29 | macnewbold | :) |
| 00:53.37 | macnewbold | sorry, I'm not much help then... ;) |
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| 00:58.14 | bonez39 | greetings, Mac |
| 01:03.00 | macnewbold | hi bonez39 |
| 01:03.51 | bonez39 | later |
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| 01:17.54 | emcnabb | well, at least CompCRAP gave me a loaner power adapter |
| 01:18.18 | goozbach | it works then? |
| 01:18.37 | emcnabb | well, kind of |
| 01:18.50 | emcnabb | it works better than it did |
| 01:19.05 | sjansen-disruptd | ~hug emcnabb |
| 01:19.07 | ibot | ACTION hugs emcnabb |
| 01:22.51 | xbmodder | emcnabb, sup |
| 01:25.53 | xbmodder | .... |
| 01:26.58 | xbmodder | |lart me |
| 01:26.59 | xbmodder | |lart me |
| 01:27.05 | xbmodder | ? |
| 01:27.17 | xbmodder | |me is xbmodder |
| 01:27.17 | brigham | alright |
| 01:27.20 | xbmodder | |lart me |
| 01:27.28 | xbmodder | |me |
| 01:27.35 | xbmodder | DAMN! |
| 01:28.10 | goozbach | |lart xbmodder |
| 01:28.19 | goozbach | there ya go.. |
| 01:29.01 | Maquis | ~timeout xbmodder |
| 01:29.03 | ibot | ACTION grabs xbmodder by the ear, drags him to the timeout chair, and forces him to sit there for 20 minutes |
| 01:29.11 | Maquis | watch your language |
| 01:29.55 | shadoi | watch it how? |
| 01:30.03 | shadoi | language is sort of ephemeral |
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| 01:32.03 | Maquis | ~flog shadoi |
| 01:32.06 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties shadoi and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 01:32.51 | xbmodder | ? |
| 01:32.59 | xbmodder | |me is xbmodder |
| 01:32.59 | brigham | but me is xbmodder |
| 01:33.00 | xbmodder | |me is xbmodder |
| 01:33.01 | brigham | but me is xbmodder |
| 01:33.01 | shadoi | oh baby, you're turnin me on |
| 01:33.06 | xbmodder | me |
| 01:33.09 | xbmodder | ?? |
| 01:33.19 | xbmodder | There are bugs and then there are bugs. And then there are bugs. |
| 01:33.19 | xbmodder | -- Karl Lehenbauer |
| 01:33.24 | Maquis | ??????? |
| 01:33.27 | goozbach | |me |
| 01:33.37 | xbmodder | i have no idea |
| 01:33.39 | sjansen | And then there is user error. |
| 01:33.47 | xbmodder | lmao |
| 01:33.48 | Maquis | sjansen: no kidding |
| 01:33.55 | Maquis | pebkac |
| 01:33.57 | goozbach | and then there is SUSE! |
| 01:34.07 | sjansen | ~lart SUSE |
| 01:34.09 | Maquis | goozbach: that might fall under bugs |
| 01:34.11 | xbmodder | "If I do, you won't respect me!" ejaculated the saucy DARPA contract monitor as the nose-grooming dentist fucked her succulent armpits and plugged his gorged member into her tire tracked palace. |
| 01:34.16 | xbmodder | oops |
| 01:34.25 | xbmodder | its a script |
| 01:34.29 | xbmodder | i swear |
| 01:35.03 | Maquis | ~lart xbmodder |
| 01:35.12 | xbmodder | :( |
| 01:35.19 | Maquis | xbmodder: this is a g-rated (most of the time) channel |
| 01:35.21 | xbmodder | > i swear < |
| 01:35.24 | xbmodder | i know |
| 01:35.36 | xbmodder | its an annoying xchat feature |
| 01:35.57 | xbmodder | my friend used a script that somtimes randomly does crap... |
| 01:36.02 | JoshH | lol |
| 01:36.13 | JoshH | oh no, im corrupted now |
| 01:36.31 | shadoi | xbmodder: hahaha |
| 01:37.15 | sjansen | Oh, hey, it's time to eat again. |
| 01:39.08 | xbmodder | sjansen, scripting feature of xchat! |
| 01:39.25 | JoshH | xbmodder: is that script called "sex"? |
| 01:40.39 | SpecialK | mmm. . .. food. |
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| 01:46.32 | byronc | sjansen: they didn't happen to disassociate from the terminal did they? |
| 01:46.40 | sjansen | must have |
| 01:46.47 | sjansen | No other explanation. |
| 01:47.17 | sjansen | Just didn't expect xchat, firefox, and evolution to all do it. |
| 01:47.33 | sjansen | Unless there's a chroot interaction I'm unaware of. |
| 01:47.33 | byronc | sjansen: you can always check /proc/pid/fd/{0,1,2} and see what they point to |
| 01:47.56 | byronc | oops, should be <pid> |
| 01:48.26 | sjansen | I knew that part, silly, but what does the link mean? |
| 01:48.41 | sjansen | /proc/4842/fd/1 -> /dev/pts/0 (deleted) |
| 01:49.00 | sjansen | init has inherited the processes |
| 01:49.33 | byronc | hmmm, sounds more like fork and then exit in the parent |
| 01:50.06 | sjansen | right, but after the parent exitted, shouldn't they have recieved a HUP? |
| 01:50.07 | byronc | was the terminal you closed using /dev/pts/0? |
| 01:50.17 | sjansen | probably |
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| 01:51.07 | sjansen | there is no /dev/pts/0 now |
| 01:51.10 | byronc | True, unless it disassociated... hmmm... |
| 01:51.40 | byronc | |lart info coreutils |
| 01:51.51 | byronc | |lart texinfo manuals |
| 01:52.07 | sjansen | Anyone willing to write info pages probably prefers emacs anyway. :-( |
| 01:52.20 | byronc | let me try that again |
| 01:52.25 | byronc | |lart info coreutils |
| 01:52.33 | byronc | much better |
| 01:53.48 | byronc | I don't understand why all those apps would be reparenting to init. They don't even run in the background usually. |
| 01:56.08 | byronc | just started firefox from and terminal and closed the terminal, firefox didn't die. |
| 01:56.11 | sjansen | exactly, that's why I was surprised |
| 01:56.20 | sjansen | huh |
| 01:56.47 | byronc | yeah, I should have said they don't usually fork off and return control |
| 01:57.00 | JoshH | whenever i close a terminal firefox is running from, firefox does die |
| 01:57.06 | sjansen | IIRC, disassociating doesn't mean reparenting |
| 01:57.22 | byronc | sjansen: right, two different steps |
| 01:57.40 | sjansen | does disassociating imply returning control? |
| 01:58.06 | sjansen | And why would they do it? These are all programs I _want_ to quit when I log out. |
| 01:58.42 | byronc | sjansen: My guess is that the reparenting is happening when the terminal exits. |
| 01:58.46 | sjansen | It's been awhile since I wrote code to do it, and that was on HP-UX. |
| 01:58.57 | byronc | sjansen: your parent cannot be a non-existent process |
| 01:59.04 | sjansen | I know. |
| 01:59.30 | sjansen | That's why one of init's jobs is cleaning up after parents that don't wait for their own children. |
| 01:59.38 | byronc | right |
| 02:00.01 | Newsome | init is the parent process of everything that doesn't otherwise have a parent |
| 02:01.20 | Newsome | depends on what 'firefox' is. In some distros, it's a shell script that sets stuff up, then forks 'firefox-bin' |
| 02:03.17 | goozbach | most |
| 02:03.29 | goozbach | stupid slow connection |
| 02:03.42 | sjansen | xclock is exiting from the chrooted environment when the terminal is closed |
| 02:03.44 | goozbach | |lart the lag |
| 02:04.37 | sjansen | that time evolution did close |
| 02:05.04 | sjansen | and so did firefox |
| 02:05.12 | sjansen | strange |
| 02:05.25 | sjansen | must be some detail of how I setup the chroot the first time |
| 02:05.51 | sjansen | this xchat should not be running anymore |
| 02:12.47 | sjansen | Looks like byronc was right. Too bad he's not around anymore. |
| 02:14.43 | sjansen | Although my shell history doesn't bear it out... |
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| 02:22.56 | emcnabb | http://www.columbia.edu/~rhee/ |
| 02:22.59 | emcnabb | this is great |
| 02:24.38 | Newsome | haha |
| 02:26.16 | emcnabb | I laughed for a long time |
| 02:27.29 | scott__ | T - 5.5 HOURS BABY!! |
| 02:34.59 | tensai | lambda^2: steam or retail? do you have it already? |
| 02:45.18 | goozbach | that is great |
| 02:48.35 | Maquis | haah |
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| 03:17.10 | lambda^2 | tensai, steam |
| 03:17.33 | lambda^2 | I bought it on steam so I could play counter-strike source for the past month and a half |
| 03:17.53 | tensai | cool |
| 03:18.03 | lambda^2 | in the end, retail doesn't come with a manual and I can burn a dvd backup so the only loss is I don't have an original cd |
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| 03:22.04 | tensai | no manual?!? that's retarded |
| 03:25.55 | lambda^2 | yeah, for some people, but honestly I've never read the manual for a game I bought except for warcraft2 |
| 03:26.05 | lambda^2 | and I read that manual after I'd owned the game for over a month |
| 04:08.21 | tensai | Maquis: ping |
| 04:09.46 | Maquis | pong |
| 04:10.38 | Maquis | |lart specialk |
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| 04:16.33 | goozbach | bah everything! |
| 04:16.39 | goozbach | |lart life |
| 04:16.48 | Tene | heh |
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| 04:20.38 | Nafai | |lart life for goozbach |
| 04:22.18 | ECS | |lart Maquis |
| 04:23.09 | Maquis | |lart ECS |
| 04:25.47 | goozbach | |praise irssi |
| 04:25.51 | goozbach | -!- Irssi: Pasting 11 lines to Maquis. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel. |
| 04:26.10 | goozbach | cool program, keeps me from looking like an idiot |
| 04:27.12 | Nafai | goozbach: Yeah, I really like that feature of irssi |
| 04:27.51 | goozbach | Nafai: thanksgiving? |
| 04:28.37 | Nafai | goozbach: A friend is getting married in Logan next Tuesday. Flying into SLC for that and then somehow getting up to Idaho to my Mom's for Thanksgiving |
| 04:29.10 | Nafai | I'm not necessarily either, except I get a week off of work |
| 04:29.12 | Nafai | Why not? |
| 04:29.54 | goozbach | I just broke up with the GF and there are gonna be countless queries as to why I'm not married... etc |
| 04:30.08 | Nafai | Ah. |
| 04:30.26 | Nafai | Understand the question about the marriage thing |
| 04:30.35 | Nafai | "Are there any cute girls in your ward?" |
| 04:30.42 | Nafai | "umm...sure, Mom." |
| 04:31.16 | goozbach | my biggest problem is I'm a chickenshit when it comes to the oppisite sex. |
| 04:31.17 | ECS | `/nick SpecialK |
| 04:31.45 | goozbach | so it'll probally be a while before I decide to start dating again. |
| 04:32.00 | Specialk | I wouldn't use those words, but I feel the same way |
| 04:32.21 | goozbach | Jayce^: if you're around i decided to watch the trailer just to spite erin last night :) |
| 04:32.47 | Specialk | Episode III ? |
| 04:33.00 | goozbach | yeah |
| 04:33.04 | lambda^2 | Specialk, chickenlittle? |
| 04:33.15 | Specialk | sure |
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| 04:39.40 | goozbach | anyone willing to give/sell tickets to the BYU-Utah game sat? |
| 04:51.42 | emcnabb | what's it worth? |
| 04:52.23 | tensai | goozbach: sure, but they're printed on crackers |
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| 05:17.15 | dkelson | hey all |
| 05:18.11 | dkelson | Evan. Stuart, Derek, Doran? |
| 05:18.26 | Maquis | hi dkelson |
| 05:18.31 | Maquis | i don't know who you are... |
| 05:18.34 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:18.40 | Maquis | i'm not evan, stuart, derek, or doran |
| 05:18.47 | Maquis | but i know them... |
| 05:19.10 | dkelson | I work with them |
| 05:19.16 | Maquis | cool! |
| 05:19.19 | Maquis | what's your name? |
| 05:19.20 | spr | Ah, one of the Guru people |
| 05:19.39 | Maquis | gurus are cool! |
| 05:19.42 | dkelson | I hear they are regulars here... |
| 05:19.47 | dkelson | yes, I am |
| 05:19.51 | dkelson | :) |
| 05:19.57 | Maquis | they are |
| 05:20.10 | Maquis | stuart's not around, but the rest are |
| 05:20.24 | dkelson | I'm sitting at gate 44D in the LAX airport |
| 05:20.51 | Maquis | i'm seeing if i can get evan's attention |
| 05:20.55 | dkelson | and irc'ing thx to my Treo |
| 05:20.56 | Maquis | spr: is he over at your place |
| 05:20.59 | Maquis | ? |
| 05:21.39 | dkelson | kinda late I doubt it... |
| 05:21.45 | goozbach | LAX |
| 05:21.48 | Maquis | dkelson: i think they're around |
| 05:21.56 | dkelson | derek |
| 05:22.02 | goozbach | yup |
| 05:22.32 | dkelson | I'm looking around for Heather Locklear |
| 05:22.46 | goozbach | heh. |
| 05:23.15 | dkelson | Did I mention I had an irc client on the treo? |
| 05:23.27 | goozbach | no, |
| 05:23.49 | goozbach | I'd use the ssh client, to connect to my screen session and IRC from there |
| 05:24.00 | dkelson | there is also a Divx player |
| 05:24.30 | goozbach | when you get the 650? |
| 05:24.41 | dkelson | i'm thinking of hacking my Tivo so I can extract shows |
| 05:24.51 | goozbach | I'm kinda leaning towards getting one myself |
| 05:25.03 | goozbach | do it! |
| 05:25.17 | dkelson | then transcode the show to 320x320 for playing on my Treo |
| 05:25.56 | goozbach | awesome, there are a bunch of utilities for compressing .avi's for the zaurus |
| 05:26.14 | goozbach | they may work for the treo as well |
| 05:26.24 | dkelson | The treo forums are at a fever pitch waiting for it to ship |
| 05:26.35 | dkelson | rabid rabid fans |
| 05:26.38 | goozbach | yeah I can imagine |
| 05:26.48 | goozbach | (I know one of them) |
| 05:26.57 | dkelson | it is supposed to ship any day |
| 05:27.17 | dkelson | you can pre-order now |
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| 05:27.55 | goozbach | so, how many colums of text can you fit on this thing? |
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| 05:28.13 | goozbach | how many times does a normal line like this one wrap? |
| 05:28.41 | dkelson | if u will be a new sprint customer (they have a 30 day exclusive) there are discounts to get it much cheaper |
| 05:28.54 | goozbach | hmmm... |
| 05:29.08 | dkelson | it wrapped after 'a' |
| 05:29.09 | LeviHome | What's this? |
| 05:29.35 | goozbach | a treo 600 |
| 05:29.43 | dkelson | 650 has dbl resolution vs the one Im on now |
| 05:29.57 | LeviHome | Oh, yeah. I love my Treo 600. But I'd like a 650. |
| 05:30.04 | Nafai | ...after the furniture purchases I made 5 months ago |
| 05:30.19 | LeviHome | I don't chat with the treo, but I browse the web all the time. |
| 05:30.34 | goozbach | http://www.domotica.ch/images/newtech/treo%20600.jpg |
| 05:30.42 | dkelson | LeviHome: I'm on a Treo600 right now |
| 05:30.59 | dkelson | from the LAX airport |
| 05:31.37 | dkelson | I have a 650 on order |
| 05:31.40 | LeviHome | dkelson: Sweet. It's very handy at airports and in airplanes. I have several ebooks on mine. |
| 05:31.58 | LeviHome | I don't have money to blow on a new pdaphone. Alas! |
| 05:32.04 | dkelson | waiting for it to ship (any day now) |
| 05:32.17 | goozbach | all the different accesories |
| 05:32.28 | LeviHome | My 600 is still good enough for me. |
| 05:32.28 | dkelson | comes with a free bluetooth headset |
| 05:32.35 | goozbach | dkelson: why so late flying out? |
| 05:32.40 | emcnabb | hello |
| 05:32.43 | goozbach | take the last flight? |
| 05:32.48 | emcnabb | dax on IRC?!?!!? |
| 05:33.07 | dkelson | that's the only flight that had seats |
| 05:33.08 | dkelson | yup |
| 05:33.16 | emcnabb | wow |
| 05:33.31 | emcnabb | they gave me a loaner power supply |
| 05:33.36 | emcnabb | so atleast my computer works |
| 05:33.40 | emcnabb | (somewhat) |
| 05:33.43 | fozz | treo blah blah treo blah blah blah |
| 05:33.48 | fozz | ;-) |
| 05:34.11 | dkelson | hey, I nearly flunked organic chem in '93 cause of heavy irc usage |
| 05:35.38 | dkelson | back then there were no irc clients...u had to telnet to the irc port :) |
| 05:36.23 | emcnabb | well, I'm off to Ogden (in Provo right now) |
| 05:36.24 | emcnabb | ttyl |
| 05:36.33 | dkelson | fozz: one who does wi-fi from the bathtub has no room to poke fun at anothers obsession. |
| 05:36.50 | dkelson | :) |
| 05:36.51 | Maquis | hahahaha |
| 05:36.58 | goozbach | omg |
| 05:37.14 | emcnabb | ~lart dkelson |
| 05:37.44 | goozbach | two literal spit takes within two minutes |
| 05:37.47 | goozbach | WOW |
| 05:37.52 | Maquis | |lart emcnabb |
| 05:39.00 | emcnabb | goozbach, wow what? |
| 05:39.22 | goozbach | the two spit takes |
| 05:39.27 | dkelson | this is going to be a prop plane ride...weee |
| 05:39.29 | Maquis | huh?? |
| 05:39.34 | Maquis | dkelson: fun!!! |
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| 05:40.12 | dkelson | funny mcnabb |
| 05:41.13 | dkelson | my quit msg prolly says 'Im too lame to register this fine PalmOS irc client' |
| 05:41.34 | Maquis | haha :) |
| 05:42.39 | goozbach | just like all my stub documentation on CPAN |
| 05:42.53 | dkelson | at least my class is all setup |
| 05:43.10 | goozbach | "this user is too lazy to edit this documentation" |
| 05:43.27 | Maquis | dkelson: where are you teaching? |
| 05:43.48 | dkelson | supposedly Monterey Bay is one of the most beautiful places on earth |
| 05:44.25 | dkelson | The US Navy in Monterey CA |
| 05:45.01 | goozbach | bright and early, no? |
| 05:45.07 | Maquis | fun!!! |
| 05:46.13 | goozbach | where 8:30 really means 08:20 is the latest you can show up. |
| 05:46.14 | dkelson | the group Im teaching has some rather large computational Linux clusters for weather moldeling forecasts for Navy |
| 05:46.21 | Maquis | cool! |
| 05:46.35 | dkelson | class starts a 8am :( |
| 05:46.39 | fozz | Why does Dax get all the cool classes? |
| 05:46.45 | Maquis | weren't emcnabb and sjansen writing the course material? |
| 05:47.06 | dkelson | fozz: I don't |
| 05:47.08 | goozbach | 08:00 is _NOT_ a cool class. |
| 05:47.13 | goozbach | :) |
| 05:47.19 | Maquis | haha |
| 05:47.21 | fozz | But the linux clusters! |
| 05:47.24 | Maquis | goozbach: you need to get up earlier |
| 05:47.38 | dkelson | Cameron did an onsite for Disney |
| 05:47.39 | Newsome | Don't forget to mention that it's 8am in Honolulu! :) |
| 05:47.41 | goozbach | sure thing miss 2:00am |
| 05:47.54 | goozbach | :P |
| 05:48.03 | goozbach | that's when I go to bed... |
| 05:48.36 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:48.38 | dkelson | Chris went to Taiwan for a class |
| 05:48.48 | Maquis | dkelson: that sounds like fun... disney :) |
| 05:48.57 | Maquis | taiwan??? cool!!! |
| 05:48.58 | dkelson | Joshua went to Hong Kong |
| 05:49.05 | Maquis | i want to go to taiwan! |
| 05:49.07 | Maquis | or to mainland... |
| 05:49.13 | dkelson | Bryan went to London |
| 05:49.13 | Maquis | mainland would be even cooler than taiwan! |
| 05:49.14 | Newsome | All you guys here in Utah, and I had to go to Boston for my class... :) |
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| 05:49.37 | esrever_otua | hi all |
| 05:49.49 | Newsome | ih auto_reverse |
| 05:49.58 | dkelson | We usually teach 2-3 classes over seas a year |
| 05:50.05 | goozbach | nihou esrever_otua |
| 05:50.19 | esrever_otua | wo hun hou, goozbach |
| 05:50.44 | Maquis | esrever_otua: ni shuo zhongwen ma? |
| 05:50.52 | dkelson | I was in Sydney a year ago |
| 05:51.00 | goozbach | and.... that's where I get lost |
| 05:51.06 | Maquis | goozbach: :) |
| 05:51.07 | dkelson | I petted a kangaroo :) |
| 05:51.15 | esrever_otua | wo shwo ee dien dien gwo-u |
| 05:51.25 | fozz | I was threatening to move there if Kerry had won the election. |
| 05:51.27 | dkelson | and then it went wild an ran off |
| 05:51.35 | goozbach | europe... anywere in europe |
| 05:51.41 | Maquis | esrever_otua: hen hao! wo zai xue xiao xue zhongwen! |
| 05:52.15 | dkelson | HP runs lots of Guru Labs classes overseas...many many |
| 05:52.50 | goozbach | dkelson: any of those translated? |
| 05:52.53 | goozbach | or all in |
| 05:52.57 | goozbach | english |
| 05:52.59 | goozbach | ? |
| 05:53.05 | goozbach | stupid enter key... |
| 05:53.05 | dkelson | with the rollout of the Trouble Shooting and Host security we might get some opps |
| 05:53.22 | goozbach | |lart the enter key |
| 05:53.42 | dkelson | there is a french version of GL250/GL275/GL615 |
| 05:53.45 | lambda^2 | so, is there some kind of graphical traceroute that shows you where in the world someone is based on ip? |
| 05:53.56 | esrever_otua | Maquis: heh, my mandarin tapers off fairly quickly, these days. It's been years since I've used it, and even then I was only a novice :) |
| 05:54.01 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:54.10 | Maquis | i'm taking it in school right now :) |
| 05:54.37 | Maquis | goozbach: it's not nearly as scary as people make it |
| 05:54.59 | goozbach | I have to finish portugese, italian, french and something slavic first |
| 05:55.07 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:55.08 | dkelson | fozz u got to do cool HA cluster clusting for the state since being at GL |
| 05:55.15 | Maquis | not spanish? or do you have that already? |
| 05:55.27 | goozbach | yeah I got that one already |
| 05:55.36 | dkelson | si si |
| 05:55.39 | goozbach | the mish'll do that to you |
| 05:55.54 | Maquis | dkelson: hablas espanol? |
| 05:55.57 | fozz | dkelson: Yeah- and then the idiots at the state screwed it up. |
| 05:56.14 | goozbach | the extent of my mandarin I learned from ibot |
| 05:56.26 | fozz | I took 3 years of spanish. |
| 05:56.31 | fozz | Never made it out of the first book. |
| 05:56.36 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:56.37 | Tene | right now I'm working on lojban. |
| 05:56.54 | Tene | a really interesting constructed language. |
| 05:57.08 | dkelson | nao, eu faulo portuguese |
| 05:57.19 | Maquis | dkelson: ah... |
| 05:57.20 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:57.33 | dkelson | a little |
| 05:57.39 | Maquis | yo comprendo portugues pero no lo se |
| 05:58.23 | esrever_otua | Maquis: agreed, it was fairly easy picking it up at the place I was working at the time (a few years at a place where 90% of all the staff spoke a Cantonese dialect of one form or another) |
| 05:58.39 | esrever_otua | they were quite keen on teaching me :) |
| 05:59.16 | Maquis | :) |
| 05:59.26 | Maquis | yeah... did you learn how to read/write at all? |
| 05:59.35 | Maquis | that's the part that actually got me interested in the beginning |
| 05:59.37 | goozbach | lambda^2: I'm right there with you |
| 05:59.46 | lambda^2 | goozbach, already bought it? |
| 05:59.47 | goozbach | I'm gonna go buy it tomorow. |
| 05:59.53 | lambda^2 | ahh |
| 05:59.59 | tensai | lambda^2: are you going to irc while playing and give us a play-by-play? |
| 06:00.01 | dkelson | Im gonna start reading Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver on this flight |
| 06:00.16 | goozbach | I was gonna do the steam thing, but couldn't afford it at the time. |
| 06:00.30 | goozbach | lambda^2: read the final hours of HL-2 yet? |
| 06:00.32 | dkelson | oops gotta go |
| 06:00.40 | goozbach | bye dax |
| 06:00.43 | Maquis | by dkelson |
| 06:00.43 | fozz | dkelson: Let me know how that Baroque stuff is... I have been hesitant to read anything after cryptonomicon... |
| 06:00.46 | Maquis | nice to meet you! |
| 06:00.46 | dkelson | we will have a HL2 lan party next wek |
| 06:00.46 | lambda^2 | tensai, umm...that's a question of incentives |
| 06:00.47 | Newsome | later, dkelson |
| 06:00.58 | goozbach | have fun. |
| 06:00.59 | dkelson | cya |
| 06:01.03 | lambda^2 | goozbach, nah, saw the link..what is it? |
| 06:01.05 | dkelson | boarding |
| 06:01.06 | esrever_otua | Maquis: yes, in fact I traded teaching one of the guys english with him teaching me to write :) |
| 06:01.13 | Maquis | :) |
| 06:01.25 | lambda^2 | dkelson, I fell asleep when the dude was explaining about the little town and after the hanging |
| 06:01.54 | tensai | lambda^2: well, I've got nothing to offer. how about just a couple screenshots |
| 06:02.13 | lambda^2 | tensai, there are tons of screenshots already on the net |
| 06:02.20 | lambda^2 | and my computer sucks so they wouldn't be that nice |
| 06:02.54 | tensai | pic of the happy dance then? |
| 06:02.55 | lambda^2 | tensai, but sure, I'll tell you what I think of it, which will most likely be "this game is so insanely cool, sell your siblings and go buy it! |
| 06:03.01 | goozbach | lambda^2: a start-to-finish story of the development. |
| 06:03.16 | lambda^2 | goozbach: goozbach but nothing on the plot right? |
| 06:03.21 | goozbach | gave me anticipation goosebumps |
| 06:03.24 | lambda^2 | I don't want any spoilers or details |
| 06:03.26 | goozbach | no spoilers |
| 06:03.35 | goozbach | well mabey just a few |
| 06:03.59 | fozz | You want spoilers now? |
| 06:04.06 | fozz | So there's this scene with a light saber... |
| 06:04.14 | fozz | The dude is like jumping around... |
| 06:04.21 | fozz | and he swings his saber... |
| 06:04.24 | fozz | It was cool. |
| 06:04.50 | tensai | fozz: remember when the power went out and the dinosaurs went crazy? |
| 06:04.52 | tensai | that was cool too |
| 06:05.19 | fozz | First the earth cooled. And, then the dinosaurs came, but |
| 06:05.19 | fozz | they got too big and fat, so they all died, and they turned into oil. And, |
| 06:05.19 | fozz | then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And, Prince Charles |
| 06:05.19 | fozz | started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it, he took |
| 06:05.19 | fozz | her best summer dress out of the closet, and put it on, and went to town. |
| 06:05.46 | goozbach | fozz: what is that from? |
| 06:05.51 | goozbach | naked gun? |
| 06:06.06 | fozz | Airplane. |
| 06:06.12 | goozbach | oh yeah |
| 06:07.25 | esrever_otua | gotta run all, cu for now |
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| 06:07.33 | Maquis | zaijian esrever_otua |
| 06:07.35 | fozz | Maquis is young. |
| 06:07.35 | Newsome | Start back at the beginning |
| 06:07.49 | Maquis | fozz: yes... that's been pointed out on occasion :) |
| 06:08.16 | fozz | Rent Airplane sometime. |
| 06:08.21 | fozz | And/or Airplane II. |
| 06:08.25 | Maquis | ok.... |
| 06:08.28 | fozz | Get the R-rated ones. |
| 06:08.34 | Maquis | not likely |
| 06:08.34 | fozz | They'd pass for PG today. :) |
| 06:08.54 | fozz | R in 1977 or whatever- when Three's Company was so BAAAAD. :) |
| 06:09.14 | fozz | And now it's on TV-Land. :) |
| 06:09.53 | goozbach | the r-rated airplane movies have no-reason to be so. |
| 06:09.57 | LeviHome | Well, A Clockwork Orange was R, too. |
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| 06:10.17 | LeviHome | Don't go out and watch that. |
| 06:10.42 | fozz | goozbach: Well there's the "She's starting to shake... she's starting to shimmy." |
| 06:11.09 | goozbach | yeah |
| 06:11.13 | goozbach | tru |
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| 06:12.08 | Tene | hey guys... anyone here know much about solving font problems in X? |
| 06:12.09 | fozz | Welcome back Medallion boy. |
| 06:12.34 | LeviHome | The movie rating system sucks. |
| 06:12.35 | Tene | specifically, this guy I know is running apps on a remote headless box connected to a cygwin X server |
| 06:12.48 | Tene | and apparently is only getting half of the line. |
| 06:12.52 | dkelson | seat 7A |
| 06:13.09 | Tene | the bottom half, specifically. |
| 06:13.23 | fozz | dkelson: Did you get your hot towel yet? :) |
| 06:14.07 | dkelson | wait |
| 06:14.17 | dkelson | the flight just cancelled |
| 06:14.28 | dkelson | crap!!! |
| 06:14.40 | fozz | That sucks. |
| 06:14.49 | fozz | And he didn't even get his hot towel yet. |
| 06:15.26 | Newsome | well, fortunately, like any seasoned galactic traveler, he probably brought his own towel. |
| 06:15.37 | goozbach | heh |
| 06:17.03 | fozz | :) |
| 06:18.22 | Maquis | wait... |
| 06:18.29 | Maquis | what's he supposed to do now? |
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| 06:18.42 | fozz | Maquis: Try to find another flight. |
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| 06:18.56 | Maquis | fozz: this late? |
| 06:19.04 | Maquis | when he has to be there for a class at 8 |
| 06:19.57 | goozbach | Maquis: dax should be able to handle himself just fine... |
| 06:20.14 | Maquis | it still sucks |
| 06:20.16 | goozbach | he's been doing this a lot longer than anyone I know. |
| 06:20.17 | fozz | He does this all th time. |
| 06:20.34 | goozbach | yeah it sucks |
| 06:20.36 | fozz | He strongarms the airline... tells them he's gonna call the president... |
| 06:20.45 | fozz | They get a twin-engine just for him. |
| 06:20.54 | fozz | He'll be talking to us from his own private jet shortly. |
| 06:20.57 | fozz | ;-) |
| 06:21.03 | Maquis | haha |
| 06:21.55 | fozz | The handcuffs on his laptop bag go a long way. |
| 06:23.13 | Maquis | haha |
| 06:29.13 | goozbach | night all |
| 06:29.24 | Newsome | night, goozbach |
| 06:29.29 | Maquis | night |
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| 06:32.05 | Tene | 'night |
| 06:32.08 | Tene | aww |
| 06:32.08 | Maquis | night |
| 06:32.09 | Tene | I lose |
| 06:32.13 | Maquis | Tene: how are you? |
| 06:32.23 | Tene | I'm doing pretty well. |
| 06:32.43 | Maquis | cool stuff :) |
| 06:33.01 | Tene | What about you? How are things? |
| 06:33.16 | Maquis | things are ok |
| 06:33.28 | Maquis | classes have been insane recently |
| 06:33.33 | Maquis | and i got up far too early this morning |
| 06:33.44 | Tene | I've been sleeping *very* poorly lately. |
| 06:34.08 | Maquis | :( |
| 06:34.22 | Maquis | i've been sleeping better in the mornings in the tmcb than in bed at night |
| 06:34.42 | Maquis | ack... |
| 06:34.50 | stuporglue | How do I send a message to just one person? |
| 06:34.52 | Maquis | annoying when roommate sings along to my music |
| 06:34.59 | Tene | stuporglue: /msg |
| 06:35.01 | Maquis | stuporglue: /msg <person's name> |
| 06:35.15 | Tene | Due to some conversations on IRC and talks with a very good friend, I've finally convinced myself to talk to my head-guy about possibly investigating ADD meds. |
| 06:35.37 | Maquis | yeah? |
| 06:35.39 | Maquis | that's good |
| 06:35.47 | Tene | I've known for a long time that I should investigate that, but I've been... scared, I guess. |
| 06:35.54 | Tene | I don't really know how to describe it. |
| 06:36.01 | Maquis | i'm scared of medication |
| 06:36.03 | Maquis | in general |
| 06:36.07 | Tene | nodno |
| 06:36.08 | Tene | d |
| 06:36.13 | Tene | as am I |
| 06:36.14 | Maquis | :) |
| 06:36.20 | Tene | but I know that I need it, and it'll help me. |
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| 06:57.22 | Maquis | |praise evilwm |
| 06:59.06 | Tene | |praise Maquis |
| 06:59.22 | Maquis | thanks Tene |
| 06:59.22 | Maquis | :) |
| 07:01.14 | Maquis | lambda^2: what's wrong? |
| 07:01.22 | lambda^2 | The final hour. |
| 07:01.28 | Maquis | until? |
| 07:02.25 | lambda^2 | umm, until the highest rated game of all time gets activated on my computer. |
| 07:02.38 | Maquis | oh... |
| 07:02.40 | Maquis | ummm.. |
| 07:05.23 | Maquis | so... ummm... dare i ask what game this is? |
| 07:07.41 | lambda^2 | Half-life 2 |
| 07:07.46 | Maquis | ah.. |
| 07:08.02 | lambda^2 | did you publish your paper yet? |
| 07:08.06 | Maquis | not yet |
| 07:08.24 | Maquis | hopefully wednesday at the latest |
| 07:08.31 | Maquis | then everyone can take a hit at it... |
| 07:09.02 | Maquis | i need to finish writing some stuff up, and then work on getting it to a state where i won't be embarassed for other people to read it |
| 07:10.54 | stuporglue | oops. I was looking at the source for a dependency. gnome-vfs2-devel |
| 07:11.07 | stuporglue | looks like Gramps is python |
| 07:11.24 | Maquis | oh... |
| 07:11.27 | Maquis | ok... |
| 07:11.38 | Maquis | i suppose that actually makes more sense |
| 07:11.39 | stuporglue | OH OOH! I know python! |
| 07:11.50 | stuporglue | Oh. Wait...hrm...that's going to be a problem. |
| 07:11.58 | Maquis | what's going to be a problem? |
| 07:12.08 | stuporglue | I DON'T know python. |
| 07:12.21 | Maquis | huh? |
| 07:12.35 | Maquis | you just were very excited because you know python |
| 07:12.39 | Maquis | and now you say you don't |
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| 07:15.07 | LeviHome | Gah. I hate that I can't sleep. |
| 07:15.15 | Maquis | LeviHome: sorry... |
| 07:15.18 | Maquis | i know the feeling |
| 07:15.30 | Maquis | i'm not actually all that tired |
| 07:15.37 | Maquis | and i've been up for 22 hours |
| 07:15.42 | Maquis | (a little more than that actually |
| 07:16.36 | LeviHome | My mind just gets busy at night. |
| 07:16.40 | Maquis | :) |
| 07:16.47 | LeviHome | Especially since I was doing thinky stuff right before bed. |
| 07:16.47 | Maquis | what are you working on recently? |
| 07:16.51 | Maquis | and where do you work? |
| 07:17.03 | LeviHome | Well, just now I was working on financial stuff. |
| 07:17.10 | Maquis | cool! |
| 07:18.03 | LeviHome | Got married in June, and so we're still getting money stuff ironed out. Just got a nasty high interest credit card balance transferred to a 12 month 0% apr card. |
| 07:18.38 | Maquis | congrats on getting married! |
| 07:18.44 | Maquis | ick... credit cards stink! |
| 07:19.02 | LeviHome | Yeah. This one got a pretty hefty balance on it. |
| 07:19.08 | LeviHome | Just paid another one off completely today. |
| 07:19.15 | Maquis | ice |
| 07:19.17 | Maquis | nice |
| 07:19.18 | LeviHome | Should be rid of credit card debt altogether in a year. |
| 07:19.22 | Maquis | that's good! |
| 07:19.37 | LeviHome | And we should be able to get the cars paid off shortly after that. |
| 07:19.43 | Maquis | cool! |
| 07:20.03 | LeviHome | Well, I'd advise getting one and using it very sparingly. Your credit score will thank you. |
| 07:20.31 | LeviHome | I had a heck of a time getting anyone to loan me money because I never used a credit card or a loan or anything. |
| 07:20.46 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 07:21.04 | LeviHome | Just get a card with no fees and carry a very small balance on it. Make all your payments on time. |
| 07:21.23 | Maquis | do you have to actually use it at all? |
| 07:21.45 | LeviHome | Well, it helps to have one even if you don't use it. But carrying a balance for a while proves that you can make payments. |
| 07:22.29 | Maquis | true... |
| 07:22.39 | Maquis | at some point i'll need to get one |
| 07:22.42 | LeviHome | And they can be VERY useful tools. |
| 07:22.49 | Maquis | for now, i don't need one for anything though... |
| 07:22.58 | LeviHome | Like this one I just started up. 0% apr for a year. That's a free loan. |
| 07:23.12 | Maquis | probably wait til i get closer to graduation before i look into that... |
| 07:23.37 | LeviHome | It doesn't hurt anything to get one, if you don't use it. They love to give them to college students, too. |
| 07:24.05 | LeviHome | But if you can't trust yourself to be responsible with it, then it's probably best to approach it carefully. :) |
| 07:24.35 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 07:24.52 | LeviHome | Another thing you can do, after you've established enough credit, is to channel all your payments for things like school through a card with bonus features, like frequent flyer miles. |
| 07:25.09 | Maquis | my parents do that... |
| 07:25.22 | LeviHome | As long as you have the cash to pay it off within the grace period, you get free flights. |
| 07:25.41 | tensai | credit cards scare me. I've never trusted myself enough to use one. |
| 07:26.17 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 07:26.21 | LeviHome | The trick is, you can't get that stuff with an entry-level card. You have to have established your credit by using a less enticing card first. |
| 07:27.18 | LeviHome | Anyway, with some discipline, they make great financial tools. |
| 07:28.26 | LeviHome | Like, say you've got a 2 year car loan. If you've got a good record with revolving credit (like credit cards), you can get a 0% apr rate for a year on the remainder of your auto loan. |
| 07:28.31 | LeviHome | Saves a ton of money. |
| 07:29.13 | Maquis | true |
| 07:29.49 | LeviHome | This high-rate card was basically eating the $200 a month we paid into it. Now every bit we pay into the balance reduces the principal. |
| 07:30.49 | LeviHome | Anyway, my point is that credit cards can be your friends if you don't use them irresponsibly. And the sooner you start establishing your credit, the better off you'll be when you need to use credit as a tool. |
| 07:30.58 | Maquis | true |
| 07:31.38 | Maquis | i've just had too many friends have their lives ruined with credit cards |
| 07:32.08 | LeviHome | It's all a matter of whether you choose to live within your means or not. Credit cards don't give you free money. |
| 07:32.18 | Maquis | yeah |
| 07:32.25 | LeviHome | Credit cards didn't ruin their lives, their excessive spending did. |
| 07:32.26 | Maquis | too many people think of it that way though |
| 07:32.40 | Maquis | good point... the way you phrase it is important |
| 07:32.43 | Tene | but that doesn't make any sense. |
| 07:32.56 | Maquis | Tene: what doesn't? |
| 07:33.08 | Tene | thinking that credit card = free money |
| 07:33.46 | Maquis | it's the "i want it now, regardless of consequences" philosophy that humans have |
| 07:34.29 | tensai | people figure that they will have the money in the future |
| 07:35.16 | LeviHome | People often don't make sense |
| 07:35.33 | LeviHome | As much as we'd like to think otherwise, humans are not governed primarily by logic. |
| 07:35.38 | tensai | indeed |
| 07:35.47 | Maquis | no kidding! |
| 07:36.08 | tensai | especially Maquis |
| 07:36.28 | Maquis | huh? |
| 07:37.27 | tensai | see. she never makes sense |
| 07:37.28 | Maquis | i admit that my logic may be somewhat lacking due to sleep deprivation... |
| 07:38.03 | tensai | Maquis: I'm on level 6 on the basic missions |
| 07:38.15 | Maquis | yeah? |
| 07:38.17 | Maquis | which one is that? |
| 07:38.41 | tensai | password is encrypted to ..., decrypt it |
| 07:38.44 | Maquis | i had a friend who spent over an hour on level 1... :) |
| 07:38.53 | Maquis | ooh... i think i remember thatone |
| 07:38.59 | tensai | just got past the post submission. took me a bit to get the http syntax |
| 07:39.28 | LeviHome | Maquis: Anyway, to answer your previous question, I work for Linux Networx as a software engineer. |
| 07:39.38 | Maquis | where's linux networx? |
| 07:40.20 | Maquis | is it in provo? |
| 07:40.23 | LeviHome | Bluffdale. Right at the point of the mountain. |
| 07:40.43 | Maquis | point of the mountain is someplace between provo and slc, right? |
| 07:40.48 | Maquis | how far is that from provo? |
| 07:41.13 | LeviHome | You need to get out more. ;) |
| 07:41.27 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 07:41.35 | Maquis | well, i'm a student... |
| 07:41.35 | LeviHome | Something like 25-30 miles, I think. |
| 07:41.43 | Maquis | i don't leave the general vicinity of school |
| 07:42.01 | Maquis | 25-30 miles...' |
| 07:42.21 | LeviHome | Well, you'd probably have to have a car. |
| 07:42.28 | LeviHome | Or really like to ride a bike. |
| 07:42.49 | Tene | I'm scared of driving long distances. |
| 07:42.59 | Tene | at least, alone |
| 07:43.06 | Tene | because I have a habit of falling asleep. |
| 07:43.09 | Maquis | i'm one of those people who gets really easily confused whenever driving anywhere where i don't know where i'm going |
| 07:43.15 | Maquis | Tene: that's bad! |
| 07:43.29 | Maquis | i've also been called a "nervous driver" on numerous occasions |
| 07:43.40 | Maquis | although i've also been told that i'm much less nervous when it's raining |
| 07:44.02 | LeviHome | 25-30 miles is not a long distance to drive. :) |
| 07:44.06 | LeviHome | Trust me. |
| 07:44.08 | Maquis | ... |
| 07:44.20 | Tene | no, not really |
| 07:44.25 | Tene | I'd be fine with it. |
| 07:44.31 | Tene | I do that regularly. |
| 07:44.33 | LeviHome | Driving from Seattle, WA to Frederick, MD is a long drive. |
| 07:44.59 | Maquis | my mom and i drove from seattle to provo, but we didn't really have to find anything |
| 07:45.03 | Maquis | that's the part that bothers me |
| 07:45.09 | Maquis | i have no sense of direction |
| 07:45.22 | Maquis | and i'm a cautious driver, so i have to know ahead of time where i'm going to turn and such |
| 07:45.24 | LeviHome | You just have to have a good map and read road signs. |
| 07:46.17 | LeviHome | I don't think my driving style qualifies as 'cautious'. >:) |
| 07:46.41 | Maquis | :) |
| 07:46.41 | Tene | Gah... I was about to go to sleep, when I'm suddenly struck with hunger. |
| 07:46.56 | Maquis | i'm waiting until i'm tired |
| 07:47.00 | Maquis | then i'll go to sleep |
| 07:47.04 | Maquis | i don't know why i'm not though |
| 07:47.24 | Maquis | i'll probably crash tomorrow |
| 07:47.33 | LeviHome | Did you see the picture of my car I posted earlier? |
| 07:47.36 | Tene | and I've been told it's not good to eat right before bed. |
| 07:47.37 | Maquis | no |
| 07:47.45 | LeviHome | When everyone was getting on me for my choice of tires? ;) |
| 07:48.13 | LeviHome | Lemme find the URL. |
| 07:48.37 | LeviHome | http://lifeoflevi.com/Miata_New_Wheels.jpg |
| 07:49.25 | Maquis | nice! |
| 07:50.00 | LeviHome | Unfortunately, it is not currently looking that clean. And the tires are completely bald. |
| 07:51.01 | LeviHome | And both doors have developed scratches. :/ |
| 07:52.23 | Maquis | :( |
| 07:53.25 | Tene | Maquis: do I go to sleep now, or eat something first? |
| 07:54.07 | Maquis | Tene: are you tired? |
| 07:54.16 | Tene | only a little bit |
| 07:54.27 | LeviHome | The important question is, are you hungry? :) |
| 07:54.28 | Tene | but I told someone that I'd go to sleep at "a reasonable hour" tonight |
| 07:54.28 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 07:54.42 | Tene | yeah, I'm pretty hungry, all of a sudden |
| 07:54.43 | Maquis | LeviHome: i planned on goign to sleep at a reasonable hour |
| 07:54.48 | Maquis | Tene: eat then |
| 07:54.53 | LeviHome | Tene: I think 'a reasonable hour' has passed. |
| 07:55.18 | Maquis | LeviHome: what's the definition of "a reasonable hour"? |
| 07:55.30 | LeviHome | Of course, this is from a guy who used to stay up until he could eat breakfast at the Cannon center, then promptly crash. |
| 07:55.36 | Maquis | haha |
| 07:56.45 | LeviHome | I'm trying to figure out if there's any way to combine our cell phone accounts that would actually save us a significant amount of money. |
| 07:59.00 | Maquis | ok... |
| 07:59.09 | Maquis | which is good |
| 07:59.13 | Maquis | i've been up 23 hours... |
| 07:59.23 | Maquis | and will be getting up again in a little over 5 hours |
| 07:59.25 | Maquis | :) |
| 07:59.29 | Maquis | anyway, gnight all :) |
| 07:59.34 | LeviHome | G'night! |
| 08:00.15 | LeviHome | I think if upgrade from the $35 base plan to the $40 base plan and add $20 for the add-a-phone, that'll cover it. Unless they want me to pay double for Vision. |
| 08:02.08 | LeviHome | That should save at least $25 a month, I think. Depending on how they calculate taxes and stuff with two people per account. |
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| 08:06.29 | lambda^2 | validating half-life 2 baby! |
| 08:09.29 | LeviHome | Hmm, my gmail account supports POP now. |
| 08:09.48 | lambda^2 | I heard that, what's the pop server name and what's the smtp one? |
| 08:10.56 | LeviHome | pop.gmail.com, smtp.gmail.com |
| 08:11.26 | LeviHome | Uses SSL and auth for both. |
| 08:12.01 | LeviHome | Want an invite? I've got lots. |
| 08:16.44 | lambda^2 | so do I :) |
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| 11:10.36 | lambda^2 | well, valve managed to outdue the headcrabs. I'm goin' to bed. |
