| 00:13.56 | xbmodder | ~google wrapper |
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| 01:20.23 | tensai | that's only if hl2 comes out this year |
| 01:23.00 | scott__ | I'm sure it will. Even though Vivendi (is that the name of their publisher?) has differences over Steam, they clearly have an interest in getting it out before christmas |
| 01:23.53 | tensai | Vivendi Universal, I think. And you're probably right. But just like DNF, I'll believe it when I see it. |
| 01:24.12 | scott__ | DNF? |
| 01:24.15 | scott__ | oh, duke |
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| 02:11.37 | Nexus | Anyone using debian? |
| 02:17.48 | tensai | Nexus: yes |
| 02:18.22 | Nexus | tensai, How would I install the sources so I can build a custom kernel? I can't seem to turn on DMA for my hard drive... Figured must be a kernel problem. |
| 02:18.45 | tensai | apt-get source kernel-image-2.x.x |
| 02:19.08 | tensai | before that, as root do apt-get build-dep kernel-image-2.x.x |
| 02:19.48 | Nexus | But... Does the image install the sources? |
| 02:22.19 | tensai | apt-get source will download the sources and untar them. Then you cd into the new directory and run "fakeroot debian/rules binary" |
| 02:22.31 | tensai | that's the standard method for all debian packages |
| 02:22.50 | tensai | or you can grab you own kernel source tree (with or without packages) and use make-kpkg |
| 02:23.05 | tensai | s/packages/patches/ |
| 02:23.36 | tensai | set up your config as you like it and run "fakeroot make-kpkg binary_arch" in the kernel directory |
| 02:24.24 | tensai | actually, that's the way I would recommend. using apt-get source will generate binary packages for i386, i686, k7 and a few smp. |
| 02:24.33 | tensai | did I lose you? |
| 02:24.36 | Nexus | Yes.. |
| 02:24.46 | Nexus | I'm still struggling to understand how debian works. |
| 02:24.56 | tensai | ok, sorry. I noticed I was going too fast but just couldn't slow down. |
| 02:24.57 | Nexus | I did apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8, but I guess that was wrong? |
| 02:25.18 | tensai | no, that will work too. that just puts a kernel tarball in /usr/src. |
| 02:25.27 | tensai | you can then untar it wherever you like |
| 02:25.32 | Nexus | So I just... Ok. |
| 02:25.35 | tensai | have you built a kernel before? |
| 02:25.37 | Nexus | THen from there, I do what? |
| 02:25.40 | Nexus | Yes, I have. |
| 02:25.45 | Nexus | Many times on my laptop. |
| 02:25.49 | Nexus | Never for a server though. |
| 02:26.07 | tensai | ok. cd into the new directory and run make menuconfig or xconfig or whichever you prefer |
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| 02:26.46 | tensai | I usually copy my running .config from /boot just to get a good start |
| 02:27.13 | Nexus | I'll have to start from scratch. |
| 02:27.18 | tensai | once your kernel is how you like it, there's a program named make-kpkg that will build a .deb package for you |
| 02:27.28 | Nexus | And what is a deb package? |
| 02:27.43 | tensai | that's fine too. I usually end up missing something, like ide-disk. :( |
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| 02:28.13 | tensai | like an rpm only for debian. it's got all the binaries and configs and such. You install them with apt-get or dpkg. |
| 02:28.55 | tensai | so instead of running make install ; make modules_install, you create an archive of all the files and install them just like any other program. |
| 02:29.16 | tensai | it's really handy to keep track of your kernels. I only ever use make-kpkg any more. |
| 02:29.47 | tensai | you'll have to apt-get install kernel-package |
| 02:30.00 | Nexus | Ok. Give me a sec to catch up. |
| 02:30.04 | tensai | sure |
| 02:30.08 | Nexus | I'm trying to do this as I"m coping files over from my other hard drive |
| 02:30.32 | Nexus | So the system is dreadfully slow (with no dma) |
| 02:30.51 | tensai | you've tried hdparm? |
| 02:31.44 | Nexus | Yea |
| 02:31.48 | Nexus | Didn't like it. |
| 02:31.55 | Nexus | hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda |
| 02:33.19 | Nexus | Transfering old server HD to a new 80GB SATA, and changing distros at the same time. |
| 02:54.03 | Nexus | tensai, you still there? |
| 02:54.18 | tensai | yup |
| 02:54.27 | tensai | watching the daily show |
| 02:54.32 | Nexus | I'm trying to do a make menuconfig, but it's saying I need to install ncurses-devel? |
| 02:54.37 | Nexus | daily show?? |
| 02:54.42 | Nexus | ncurses-devel isn't a package. |
| 02:54.46 | tensai | with jon stewart |
| 02:54.49 | torriem | ncurses-dev |
| 02:55.15 | Nexus | Gotcha.. Thanx. |
| 02:55.40 | tensai | libncurses5-dev |
| 02:55.58 | tensai | what version of debian is this? |
| 02:58.08 | Nexus | sarge? |
| 02:58.10 | Nexus | I think. |
| 02:58.43 | tensai | did you get menuconfig to work? |
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| 03:04.23 | Nexus | tensai, Yes. Just finished with it. now what? |
| 03:04.38 | tensai | did you install kernel-package? |
| 03:05.43 | Nexus | I did. |
| 03:06.19 | tensai | run "fakeroot make-kpkg binary-arch |
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| 03:11.45 | Nexus | fakeroot isn't found. |
| 03:12.00 | tensai | k. you'll need to install it then |
| 03:25.03 | tensai | Nexus: how's it going? |
| 03:25.44 | Nexus | Slow. Kernel still compiling though it's getting close. |
| 03:25.53 | Nexus | Had to clean out a lot. The stupid thing had everything as modules. |
| 03:35.52 | Nexus | tensai, Ok. Finally done. Now what? |
| 03:48.17 | brailsmt | ~weathercode Blue Springs, MO |
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| 05:21.19 | Maquis | ~lart spr |
| 05:21.26 | Maquis | ~lart spr |
| 05:21.38 | Maquis | ibot, we need some creative ones here |
| 05:21.42 | Maquis | ~lart spr |
| 05:22.07 | Tene | ~lart Maquis |
| 05:22.15 | Tene | ~roulette |
| 05:22.16 | ibot | ACTION hears tene heave a big *sigh* of relief |
| 05:22.28 | SpecialK | ~cookie |
| 05:22.35 | Maquis | ~bottreat |
| 05:22.37 | SpecialK | ~kill spr |
| 05:22.39 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited anti-graviton gun at spr |
| 05:22.44 | Maquis | ~botsnack |
| 05:22.44 | ibot | Maquis: aw, gee |
| 05:23.27 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 05:23.41 | SpecialK | ibot likes Maquis |
| 05:23.43 | ibot | ACTION runs and gives Maquis a big bear-hug. |
| 05:23.57 | SpecialK | ibot loathes spr |
| 05:29.50 | Maquis | haha |
| 05:29.55 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 05:31.06 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 05:31.33 | SpecialK | ~zap Maquis |
| 05:31.36 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives Maquis a good jolt. |
| 05:31.45 | Tene | ibot likes a present to Maquis. Maquis opens the box only to find a bomb!! Oh no! Tene gives ibot |
| 05:31.49 | ibot | ACTION runs and gives a present to Maquis. Maquis opens the box only to find a bomb!! Oh no! Tene gives ibot a big bear-hug. |
| 05:34.02 | SpecialK | ~lart Tene |
| 05:34.16 | SpecialK | Love hate right there. . . |
| 05:35.16 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 05:35.20 | Maquis | ~lart Tene |
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| 05:49.31 | spr | ~lart Maquis |
| 05:49.56 | h3k | ~lart h3k |
| 05:50.07 | h3k | hmm |
| 05:51.00 | h3k | brb |
| 05:51.27 | SpecialK | I missed that. Someone setup Maquis the bomb. |
| 05:52.22 | SpecialK | ~bomb |
| 05:52.23 | ibot | automatic interactive visual stimulation. URL: http://draves.org/bomb |
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| 05:53.35 | Maquis | ~lart spr |
| 05:53.45 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 05:54.30 | h3k | me |
| 05:57.06 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 05:57.11 | SpecialK | ~lart spr |
| 05:58.20 | h3k | ~lart h3k |
| 06:03.25 | h3k | ~lart h3k |
| 06:03.31 | h3k | mmm laser |
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| 06:24.51 | h3k | mmm |
| 06:24.57 | h3k | gotta love those who do excess flood on first message |
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| 06:52.21 | Maquis | gnight |
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