| 00:00.03 | *** join/#utah liregirl (fqoc1@200.149.169.201) |
| 00:00.15 | fishyfire_ | i have one visible router.. |
| 00:00.22 | fishyfire_ | the plug on the wall looks just like a phone plug would only a different size |
| 00:00.28 | fishyfire_ | or the ethernet size |
| 00:00.33 | Bradipo | But there is nevertheless another router involved. |
| 00:00.38 | fishyfire_ | ok.. |
| 00:00.52 | fishyfire_ | sorry... not much experience with this |
| 00:01.02 | Bradipo | So, you say there are other people using the etherfast router? |
| 00:01.06 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:01.22 | fishyfire_ | my roommate is using it and it is working just fine |
| 00:01.34 | Bradipo | What port are you plugged into? |
| 00:01.37 | Bradipo | There are 5 right? |
| 00:02.01 | Bradipo | I guess I should ask how many there are... |
| 00:02.17 | fishyfire_ | the incoming internet and the 4 ports out to computers |
| 00:02.26 | fishyfire_ | i am plugged into port 4 |
| 00:02.33 | fishyfire_ | and the other one is plugged into port 1 |
| 00:02.36 | Bradipo | Did you try port 3? |
| 00:02.45 | Bradipo | The other PC that works is on port 1? |
| 00:02.49 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:02.56 | Bradipo | And where is the wall plugged into? |
| 00:03.16 | fishyfire_ | the iprovo internet guy plugged his laptop in in place of my computer and it worked fine |
| 00:03.24 | Bradipo | On the same port? |
| 00:03.28 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:03.34 | fishyfire_ | where is the wall plugged into? |
| 00:03.35 | fishyfire_ | ?? |
| 00:03.50 | Bradipo | Yeah, you have the ethernet cable coming out from the wall (which comes from the cable modem router). |
| 00:04.04 | Bradipo | Where does it plug into the etherfast router? |
| 00:04.14 | fishyfire_ | and that goes into the internet port on my etherfast router |
| 00:04.22 | Bradipo | So, a WAN port? |
| 00:04.42 | Bradipo | Ok, sounds good... |
| 00:05.02 | Bradipo | So, your system is configured to receive IP via DHCP? |
| 00:05.10 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:05.17 | fishyfire_ | not sure on the wan port.. |
| 00:05.19 | Bradipo | Does it get an IP that is correct? |
| 00:05.27 | Bradipo | What is the IP you get? |
| 00:05.29 | *** join/#utah vontrapp1 (~von@byu176783wks.rn.byu.edu) |
| 00:05.39 | Bradipo | How about the netmask and default gateway? |
| 00:05.43 | fishyfire_ | 192.168.1.100 |
| 00:05.48 | Bradipo | You get that IP? |
| 00:05.52 | fishyfire_ | 255.255.255.0 |
| 00:05.55 | fishyfire_ | yes that ip |
| 00:05.57 | Bradipo | Does anyone else have that IP? |
| 00:06.05 | fishyfire_ | and the gateway is 172.29.0.1 |
| 00:06.12 | Bradipo | Oh, that's messed. |
| 00:06.16 | vontrapp | d'oh |
| 00:06.17 | Bradipo | The gateway is wrong. |
| 00:06.20 | fishyfire_ | ok.. |
| 00:06.37 | Bradipo | I can't imagine that gateway came from the etherfast router... |
| 00:06.42 | fishyfire_ | the iprovo technician said that is what the router was supposed to assign? |
| 00:06.59 | Bradipo | Hmm, that's what the cable modem router should assign more likely. |
| 00:07.07 | fishyfire_ | ok |
| 00:07.11 | fishyfire_ | that makes sense |
| 00:07.24 | Bradipo | He's an idiot if he told you to configure your etherfast to do that (unless it is bridging). |
| 00:07.48 | Bradipo | In which case you should have an IP address on their network not 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 00:07.49 | vontrapp | getting ip from the etherfast router and gateway from the cable modem? |
| 00:08.06 | Bradipo | What is the IP of the etherfast? |
| 00:08.13 | Bradipo | And can you connect to it to check the settings? |
| 00:08.18 | fishyfire_ | i am not sure... |
| 00:08.21 | fishyfire_ | where would i find that? |
| 00:08.28 | Bradipo | Also, is the other person that works using DHCP as well or are they static? |
| 00:08.35 | Bradipo | Who setup the etherfast? |
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| 00:08.41 | fishyfire_ | i do know that the search domain shows up iprovo.net |
| 00:08.53 | fishyfire_ | they are using dhcp also |
| 00:08.57 | Bradipo | Who setup your etherfast router? |
| 00:09.02 | fishyfire_ | i connected it up |
| 00:09.10 | Bradipo | So, how did you configure it? |
| 00:09.28 | Bradipo | It sounds like it needs a bit of reconfiguring... |
| 00:09.33 | fishyfire_ | i plugged it in... |
| 00:09.45 | *** part/#utah vontrapp_ (~von@byu176783wks.rn.byu.edu) |
| 00:09.46 | Bradipo | If indeed it did give out the IP of 172.29.0.1 for the default gateway. |
| 00:09.48 | *** part/#utah vontrapp1 (~von@byu176783wks.rn.byu.edu) |
| 00:09.59 | Bradipo | vontrapp: You still here? :-) |
| 00:10.02 | vontrapp | yep |
| 00:10.08 | fishyfire_ | and then i followed the instructions.. |
| 00:10.28 | Bradipo | So, can you still login to the etherfast to check the settings? |
| 00:10.35 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:10.41 | fishyfire_ | i checked and it was still set at dhcp |
| 00:10.46 | Bradipo | That's fine. |
| 00:10.50 | Bradipo | But what do the settings show? |
| 00:10.50 | fishyfire_ | i am actually talking on the computer that is having problems right now |
| 00:11.08 | Bradipo | That's weird... |
| 00:11.27 | Bradipo | So, you are on the computer that has an IP of 192.168.1.100/24 with a default gateway of 172.29.0.1 |
| 00:11.28 | Bradipo | ? |
| 00:11.34 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:11.36 | Bradipo | What does netstat -nr show? |
| 00:12.43 | fishyfire_ | there are three lines |
| 00:12.48 | fishyfire_ | the first is... |
| 00:13.28 | fishyfire_ | destination 192.168.1.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 genmask 255.255.255.0 flags u mss 0 window 0 irtt 0 Iface eth0 |
| 00:14.09 | fishyfire_ | destination 127.0.0.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 genmask 255.0.0.0 flags u mss 0 window 0 irtt 0 Iface lo |
| 00:14.33 | Bradipo | That's the weirdest netstat -rn I've seen... |
| 00:14.44 | fishyfire_ | destination 0.0.0.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 genmask 0.0.0.0 flags ug mss 0 window 0 irtt 0 Iface etho |
| 00:14.53 | fishyfire_ | what is it supposed to look like? |
| 00:15.03 | vontrapp | looks a lot different than mine :) |
| 00:15.07 | fishyfire_ | i mean it showed up in columns.... |
| 00:15.19 | Bradipo | AT any rate, I don't see a default gateway of 172.29.0.1 |
| 00:15.19 | fishyfire_ | and was more organized if that is what you mean |
| 00:15.26 | fishyfire_ | nope |
| 00:15.28 | Bradipo | The last line clearly shows your default gateway as 192.168.1.1 |
| 00:15.31 | Bradipo | Which is correct. |
| 00:15.35 | fishyfire_ | ok |
| 00:15.36 | Bradipo | Can you ping 192.168.1.1 ? |
| 00:15.48 | fishyfire_ | i was getting the 172.29.0.1 from the mandrake control center |
| 00:16.05 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:16.08 | fishyfire_ | that pings fine |
| 00:16.17 | Bradipo | What kind of latency are you seing? |
| 00:16.51 | fishyfire_ | 3 packets transmitted 3 received 0% packet loss time 1999ms |
| 00:17.03 | fishyfire_ | averaging .3 on the time |
| 00:17.22 | Bradipo | traceroute -m 2 yahoo.com |
| 00:18.06 | Bradipo | What does that show? |
| 00:18.12 | Bradipo | By the way, you know how to copy and paste? |
| 00:18.19 | fishyfire_ | no... |
| 00:18.25 | Bradipo | Highlight with the moust. |
| 00:18.29 | Bradipo | And then middle click. |
| 00:18.30 | fishyfire_ | ok |
| 00:18.41 | Bradipo | If you don't have a middle mouse button, sometimes clicking both will work. |
| 00:18.41 | fishyfire_ | traceroute: Warning: yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using 216.109.112.135 |
| 00:18.41 | fishyfire_ | traceroute to yahoo.com (216.109.112.135), 2 hops max, 38 byte packets |
| 00:18.41 | fishyfire_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.41 | fishyfire_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.48 | fishyfire_ | i got it... |
| 00:18.49 | fishyfire_ | thanks |
| 00:18.58 | Bradipo | Just don't go bonkers with it now. :-) |
| 00:19.01 | fishyfire_ | k |
| 00:19.05 | fishyfire_ | :) |
| 00:19.05 | Bradipo | No flooding the channel. |
| 00:19.18 | Bradipo | Hmm, no IPs at all in a traceroute... |
| 00:19.32 | Bradipo | traceroute -n -m 2 yahoo.com |
| 00:20.30 | fishyfire_ | traceroute: Warning: yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using 66.94.234.13 |
| 00:20.30 | fishyfire_ | traceroute to yahoo.com (66.94.234.13), 2 hops max, 38 byte packets |
| 00:20.30 | fishyfire_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.30 | fishyfire_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.34 | Bradipo | No good. |
| 00:20.36 | fishyfire_ | that did the same thing... |
| 00:20.37 | fishyfire_ | nope |
| 00:20.44 | Bradipo | Why can't you traceroute out... |
| 00:21.01 | fishyfire_ | ? |
| 00:21.08 | Bradipo | Well, you are obviously on the network or you wouldn't be here right? |
| 00:21.13 | Bradipo | :-) |
| 00:21.15 | fishyfire_ | yeah |
| 00:21.29 | fishyfire_ | unless i am a figment of your imagination |
| 00:21.30 | Bradipo | Do you have some kind of bandwidth throttling on your system? |
| 00:21.36 | fishyfire_ | :) |
| 00:21.38 | Bradipo | Or some kind of a firewall? |
| 00:21.49 | fishyfire_ | i did have the firewall on and off before |
| 00:21.56 | fishyfire_ | it isn't on now |
| 00:22.03 | fishyfire_ | it is set to let everything through |
| 00:22.04 | Bradipo | On your linux system right? |
| 00:22.07 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:22.18 | Bradipo | What about bandwidth shaping? |
| 00:22.27 | fishyfire_ | i am not sure.. |
| 00:22.33 | fishyfire_ | how would i check? |
| 00:22.39 | fishyfire_ | not anything that i set... |
| 00:22.40 | Bradipo | Not sure. |
| 00:22.50 | Bradipo | Maybe something that you enabled when you installed. |
| 00:22.51 | fishyfire_ | i do have the ethernet config page up |
| 00:23.35 | Bradipo | What kind of speed do you get when you pull this file down: |
| 00:23.48 | Bradipo | ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/b/bradipo/random.zip |
| 00:24.01 | Bradipo | I get: |
| 00:24.03 | Bradipo | 100%[====================================>] 10,240,000 2.50M/s ETA 00:00 |
| 00:24.09 | Bradipo | :-) |
| 00:24.15 | fishyfire_ | it is still loading... |
| 00:24.38 | Bradipo | What is in your /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 00:24.54 | fishyfire_ | that file went almost immediately |
| 00:25.04 | fishyfire_ | after the page loaded and the save document box popped up |
| 00:25.06 | Bradipo | Almost immediately eh? |
| 00:25.13 | Bradipo | That file was 10MB... |
| 00:25.17 | fishyfire_ | yeah |
| 00:25.20 | Bradipo | That doesn't sound slow to me. |
| 00:25.23 | fishyfire_ | which doesn't make sense.. |
| 00:25.26 | fishyfire_ | no |
| 00:25.28 | fishyfire_ | that was fast |
| 00:25.34 | fishyfire_ | just my webpages are loading slow |
| 00:25.41 | Bradipo | What is in /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 00:26.08 | fishyfire_ | search iprovo.net |
| 00:26.08 | fishyfire_ | nameserver 65.105.105.165 |
| 00:26.08 | fishyfire_ | nameserver 65.105.158.164 |
| 00:26.21 | fishyfire_ | should that be there? |
| 00:26.36 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 00:26.41 | fishyfire_ | ok... |
| 00:26.42 | Bradipo | If those are the correct name servers that you should have. |
| 00:26.54 | Bradipo | I'm not so sure though... |
| 00:27.09 | Bradipo | w165.z065105105.nyc-ny.dsl.cnc.net |
| 00:27.14 | Bradipo | 65.105.158.164.ptr.us.xo.net |
| 00:27.19 | Bradipo | That's what those resolve to... |
| 00:27.24 | Bradipo | Doesn't look correct to me. |
| 00:27.30 | fishyfire_ | hmm |
| 00:27.34 | Bradipo | But who knows. |
| 00:27.38 | fishyfire_ | yeah... |
| 00:27.43 | Bradipo | maybe iProvo doesn't have their stuff together. :-) |
| 00:28.02 | fishyfire_ | wouldn't surprise me.... |
| 00:28.06 | Bradipo | Try this: |
| 00:28.18 | Bradipo | dig www.yahoo.com |
| 00:28.28 | fishyfire_ | when i first moved in and called them... the guy had to come put in static ip addresses because there network was all messed up |
| 00:28.37 | Bradipo | How long does it take to run that dig and get an ANSWER back? |
| 00:28.49 | fishyfire_ | 4 msec |
| 00:28.58 | fishyfire_ | that went really fast! |
| 00:29.25 | Bradipo | Try the second IP. |
| 00:29.38 | Bradipo | dig @65.105.158.164 www.yahoo.com |
| 00:29.58 | fishyfire_ | 5 msec |
| 00:30.05 | fishyfire_ | still fast |
| 00:30.10 | Bradipo | Try this: |
| 00:30.55 | Bradipo | http://www.xmission.com/~bradipo/random.zip |
| 00:31.02 | Bradipo | Download that, see what speed you get. |
| 00:31.07 | Bradipo | Same file, but via HTTP instead of FTP. |
| 00:31.27 | fishyfire_ | ok... still waiting for the page to load |
| 00:31.38 | Bradipo | Hmm, not sure what waiting means... |
| 00:31.45 | Bradipo | It shouldn't take that long to find the webpage. |
| 00:31.51 | fishyfire_ | it was... |
| 00:31.53 | Bradipo | You were resolving things in 4ms. |
| 00:32.11 | Bradipo | File coming down fast? |
| 00:32.12 | fishyfire_ | that's what i meant when i was saying it was loading the webpages so slow |
| 00:32.14 | *** part/#utah bonez39 (~scott@mail.sanchiro.com) |
| 00:32.14 | fishyfire_ | yeah |
| 00:32.21 | fishyfire_ | that went as fast as the ftp one |
| 00:32.23 | Bradipo | So the initial connection is slow? |
| 00:32.31 | Bradipo | Try: telnet www.xmission.com 80 |
| 00:32.37 | Bradipo | See how long it takes before you get Connected... |
| 00:33.24 | fishyfire_ | okay |
| 00:33.28 | fishyfire_ | it finally did it |
| 00:33.41 | Bradipo | Did it take a long time to print ``Connected to www.xmission.com'' |
| 00:34.02 | fishyfire_ | it took lots longer than the 4ms the other took |
| 00:34.07 | fishyfire_ | was it supposed to go as fast? |
| 00:34.10 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 00:34.18 | Bradipo | It should have given you a connection almost immediately. |
| 00:34.50 | Bradipo | So, why does this happen just to your computer. :-) |
| 00:34.53 | fishyfire_ | i got to about 33 counting before that showed up |
| 00:35.00 | Bradipo | Yeah, that's bad. |
| 00:35.03 | fishyfire_ | yeah |
| 00:35.04 | Bradipo | You could always sniff it... |
| 00:35.09 | fishyfire_ | that is why i am trying to fix it |
| 00:35.25 | Bradipo | Use two terminals. |
| 00:35.25 | fishyfire_ | i have no idea why it is just my computer having issues |
| 00:35.51 | fishyfire_ | okay... how would i do that? |
| 00:35.52 | Bradipo | In one, run ethereal or tcpdump and in the other use telnet. |
| 00:36.08 | Bradipo | tcpdump -w capture.out -s 65535 host 198.60.22.4 |
| 00:36.19 | Bradipo | Then in the other, run: telnet 198.60.22.4 80 |
| 00:36.39 | Bradipo | Once you get the connection back, quit the connection and break out of tcpdump. |
| 00:36.59 | Bradipo | Then you can upload the file, analyze it with ethereal, etc... |
| 00:37.30 | fishyfire_ | tcpdump: command not found |
| 00:38.27 | fishyfire_ | and i was running in root... |
| 00:39.10 | Bradipo | You'll have to install it. |
| 00:39.14 | fishyfire_ | ok |
| 00:39.42 | Bradipo | Bummer, I thought tcpdump was part of a standard install anymore... |
| 00:40.02 | fishyfire_ | guess not on mine... |
| 00:40.32 | Bradipo | Well, Mandrake sucks in my opinion... |
| 00:40.41 | Bradipo | So it doesn't surprise me. |
| 00:40.58 | fishyfire_ | mandrake is what i am most familiar with |
| 00:41.06 | fishyfire_ | okay... |
| 00:41.14 | fishyfire_ | tcpdumb said this... |
| 00:41.21 | fishyfire_ | tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes |
| 00:41.21 | fishyfire_ | 11 packets captured |
| 00:41.21 | fishyfire_ | 11 packets received by filter |
| 00:41.21 | fishyfire_ | 0 packets dropped by kernel |
| 00:41.41 | fishyfire_ | so that seemed to work correctly right? |
| 00:41.41 | Bradipo | That's fine. |
| 00:41.44 | fishyfire_ | ok |
| 00:41.45 | Bradipo | Now you should have a file there... |
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| 00:41.48 | Bradipo | capture.out |
| 00:42.25 | fishyfire_ | a file named that? or type that in the console? |
| 00:42.32 | Bradipo | A file. |
| 00:42.58 | Bradipo | Now, you can open it in ethereal or upload it somewhere for others to look at... |
| 00:43.11 | vontrapp2 | i think my difficulties are from when my laptop sleeps |
| 00:44.36 | fishyfire_ | ok now i am installing ethereal |
| 00:47.29 | fishyfire_ | ok i have it open in ethereal |
| 00:47.36 | fishyfire_ | what should i be looking for? |
| 00:47.42 | Bradipo | You might want to upload it so I can look at it. |
| 00:48.03 | fishyfire_ | do you have im? i could send you the file that way... |
| 00:48.20 | Bradipo | You could try to DCC it to me. |
| 00:48.24 | fishyfire_ | that would be quicker than me finding a place to upload it to. |
| 00:48.50 | fishyfire_ | ok... |
| 00:48.55 | fishyfire_ | i sent it.. |
| 00:49.07 | fishyfire_ | waiting for you... |
| 00:49.38 | Bradipo | Hmm, not coming. |
| 00:49.42 | fishyfire_ | hmm |
| 00:49.49 | fishyfire_ | i'll try again |
| 00:50.08 | Bradipo | Interesting. |
| 00:50.14 | Bradipo | It says it is coming from 192.168.1.100 :-) |
| 00:50.24 | fishyfire_ | which is not my ip... |
| 00:50.38 | Bradipo | Yeah it is... |
| 00:50.42 | Bradipo | It is your internal IP. |
| 00:50.45 | fishyfire_ | oh ok |
| 00:50.51 | fishyfire_ | and it should be different? |
| 00:50.54 | Bradipo | SOmething not properly natting that. |
| 00:51.09 | Bradipo | There's always FTP. |
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| 00:51.36 | fishyfire_ | ok... how would i do that? |
| 00:52.21 | fishyfire_ | i could email it to you.. |
| 00:54.00 | fishyfire_ | i am working on getting it uploaded... |
| 00:56.26 | Bradipo | Done? |
| 00:56.47 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 00:56.53 | fishyfire_ | http://www.geocities.com/fishyfire/capture.out.zip |
| 00:57.18 | Bradipo | Not big at all. |
| 00:57.31 | fishyfire_ | i zipped it to get it to accept the file format |
| 00:57.48 | Bradipo | Hehe, looks like I need to install ethereal too... |
| 00:57.56 | fishyfire_ | lol |
| 00:57.58 | Bradipo | I just upgraded my desktop and haven't installed everything yet. |
| 01:04.29 | fishyfire_ | done? |
| 01:11.52 | fishyfire_ | Bradipo: Are you still there? |
| 01:12.09 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 01:12.12 | Bradipo | Still installing. |
| 01:12.16 | fishyfire_ | okay... |
| 01:12.20 | fishyfire_ | just checking |
| 01:12.23 | Bradipo | Had a bunch of missing library dependencies. |
| 01:12.27 | fishyfire_ | hmm |
| 01:12.28 | fishyfire_ | yeah |
| 01:12.32 | Bradipo | Like I said, I just reinstalled just about everything. |
| 01:12.42 | fishyfire_ | mandrake rpmdrake just took care of it all for me |
| 01:12.47 | fishyfire_ | :) |
| 01:12.48 | Bradipo | Had to install pcre first. |
| 01:12.56 | Bradipo | Oh, mine takes care of it too. |
| 01:13.03 | fishyfire_ | what are you running? |
| 01:13.04 | Bradipo | But that doesn't mean it doesn't take time to install them all... |
| 01:13.07 | Bradipo | OpenBSD. |
| 01:13.15 | fishyfire_ | that's true |
| 01:13.17 | fishyfire_ | hmm |
| 01:13.21 | fishyfire_ | never tried that before |
| 01:14.16 | fishyfire_ | okay another dumb question.... is that like free bsd? |
| 01:15.05 | Bradipo | Kind of. |
| 01:15.10 | Bradipo | Its a spin off of NetBSD. |
| 01:15.14 | fishyfire_ | ok |
| 01:17.28 | fishyfire_ | the internet pages do load faster if they are from the same site... |
| 01:17.49 | fishyfire_ | i think that be because i am running squid? |
| 01:17.53 | fishyfire_ | may be |
| 01:17.59 | Bradipo | I'm an idiot... |
| 01:18.04 | Bradipo | No wonder it was taking so long. :-) |
| 01:18.14 | fishyfire_ | what happened? |
| 01:18.16 | Bradipo | I installed ethereal on my laptop (which I also just upgraded). |
| 01:18.22 | Bradipo | And which would explain why it was so slow. |
| 01:19.09 | fishyfire_ | hmm... |
| 01:21.14 | fishyfire_ | bummer |
| 01:24.13 | Bradipo | Well, it will go much faster on my desktop... |
| 01:24.22 | fishyfire_ | lol |
| 01:24.24 | fishyfire_ | ok |
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| 01:34.26 | Bradipo | Ok |
| 01:34.27 | Bradipo | Got it. |
| 01:34.33 | Bradipo | You looking at it? |
| 01:34.46 | fishyfire_ | yes |
| 01:35.00 | fishyfire_ | it doesn't mean anything to me... but yes i am looking at it |
| 01:35.38 | Bradipo | Well, it looks good. |
| 01:35.43 | fishyfire_ | okay |
| 01:35.49 | fishyfire_ | i guess that is a good sign... and bad |
| 01:36.10 | Bradipo | It looks like it didn't take a long time... |
| 01:36.16 | Bradipo | At least not once the packets started moving. |
| 01:36.32 | Bradipo | It also looks like you just hit enter 10 seconds after it said you were connected. |
| 01:37.10 | fishyfire_ | ok... |
| 01:38.03 | spr | Live at the uug meeting... :) |
| 01:39.01 | fishyfire_ | what's today's topic? |
| 01:39.38 | scott | is there a video or webcam feel of the meeting? |
| 01:41.05 | fishyfire_ | is there anything else in the file that looks weird or wrong? |
| 01:42.34 | fishyfire_ | or anything else that i could look for or try? |
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| 02:02.03 | fishyfire_ | Bradipo? |
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| 02:16.48 | fishyfire_ | Bradipo: Thanks for the help, and the patience with my dumb questions. |
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| 02:32.37 | Mecworks | OK, totaly unrelated, who knows when Guster is going to be here in concert? |
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| 03:10.31 | tensai | ~lart power outages |
| 03:10.41 | tensai | ~lart me for not having a UPS |
| 03:20.57 | Mecworks | ~lart tensai for not being tensai |
| 03:21.58 | tensai | ~lart Mecwork for being urusai |
| 03:30.26 | scott | Are there any desktops (not app launcher, but the actual desktop app) that aren't icon based, but list based or something else. |
| 03:33.26 | Mecworks | ~lart tensai for being shitsure |
| 03:33.29 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 03:34.02 | Mecworks | man! That looks bad in english.... 8^) |
| 03:34.22 | tensai | hah! I didn't even notice at first. |
| 03:34.57 | tensai | kinda makes sense both ways |
| 03:35.06 | Mecworks | Yea, I was thinking the same thing |
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