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| 04:04.20 | synic|home | this is going to sound like a weird question, but was anyone here just at the jubilee? |
| 04:08.42 | SpecialK | ?? |
| 04:12.58 | synic|home | well... I did tell you it would sound weird. It would make sense if you were there. |
| 04:23.36 | SpecialK | but what was it? |
| 04:25.10 | synic|home | um, I'd rather not say |
| 04:37.43 | SpecialK | where was this? |
| 04:42.03 | synic|home | downtown salt lake |
| 04:42.20 | synic|home | 100 S 300 E |
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| 04:58.42 | Mecworks_ | synic|home, I used to live three blocks from there. 100 So. 600 E. |
| 04:58.52 | Mecworks_ | that was a couple years ago. |
| 05:00.27 | synic|home | yeah, the jubilee is the little episcopal meeting place accross the street from the 7-11 |
| 05:04.01 | Mecworks_ | ~seen emcnabb? |
| 05:04.02 | ibot | emcnabb <~emcnabb@64-205-130-223.client.dsl.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 12h 49m 45s ago, saying: 'I would be sad'. |
| 05:07.41 | Mecworks_ | synic|home, I think I remember that. I used to pick up one of my co-workers to car-pool, who lived in some apts next to the 7-11. |
| 05:09.33 | Mecworks_ | I lived in that neighborhood for about 4 years while going to the U and then for a while when I was working at Caldera. Then I moved to Orem to be close to the company that eventualy laied me of.. |
| 05:09.35 | Mecworks_ | off. |
| 05:09.57 | synic|home | still in Orem now? |
| 05:09.59 | Mecworks_ | I am certainly glad I'm not there now |
| 05:10.01 | Mecworks_ | Yea. |
| 05:10.29 | synic|home | hehe. I just moved from Orem to here. |
| 05:10.37 | Mecworks_ | 8^) |
| 05:10.38 | synic|home | well, not *just*, but a while ago |
| 05:10.51 | Mecworks_ | Yea, I live near target |
| 05:11.13 | Mecworks_ | so, what do you do now? |
| 05:11.20 | synic|home | I lived just north of Macey's |
| 05:11.28 | synic|home | I'm a programmer for a .com company |
| 05:11.31 | Mecworks_ | ok, I know where that is . |
| 05:11.37 | Mecworks_ | arnt we all... 8^) |
| 05:11.42 | synic|home | yeah, lol |
| 05:12.39 | Mecworks_ | I've mostly done sys-admin stuff. Some programming, lots of infrastructure stuff (RPM maintainance, build system design, etc.) Now I'm testing with a little development at Novell. |
| 05:13.40 | synic|home | so you got layed off with Bob Weaver then? |
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| 05:15.16 | Mecworks_ | Didn't know Bob. I was on the engineering team at Caldera. TimRiker, Joel Smith, Shane Smitt, David Brown, Erik Ratcliffe, etc. We all got layed off eventualy. |
| 05:15.46 | Mecworks_ | we produced the Caldera eServer 2.3 and desktop releases for about three years together. |
| 05:16.23 | Mecworks_ | Luckily we all had left (most of us anyway) before Darl came to town. |
| 05:17.12 | Mecworks_ | Being a founding member and Board of Trustee in SLLUG would not have sat well with his company direction... 8^) I would have left on my own... |
| 05:20.15 | synic|home | I still haven't been to a SLLUG meeting |
| 05:20.33 | synic|home | I want too, don't get me wrong, it just conflicts with my schedule :) |
| 05:20.45 | Mecworks_ | Novell, on the other hand has done nothing but impress me. It's really nice to work for a company that, internaly, seems to really 'get' opensource. |
| 05:21.11 | Mecworks_ | You should come to a meeting or so. It's always good to get new people involved. |
| 05:21.19 | SpecialK | I live near Target as well. |
| 05:21.30 | Mecworks_ | right. I can understand scheduling conflicts. |
| 05:21.38 | Mecworks_ | Oh, cool. |
| 05:22.02 | SpecialK | until the semester starts at BYU. |
| 05:22.03 | Mecworks_ | SpecialK, where abouts? I'm in Garden Park (Northwest of Target). |
| 05:22.16 | Mecworks_ | leaving or moving closer? |
| 05:22.25 | SpecialK | Southwest of target. |
| 05:22.38 | Mecworks_ | cool. same area then |
| 05:22.38 | SpecialK | My parents just moved here from the Bay Area. |
| 05:22.51 | Mecworks_ | oh. SF bay? |
| 05:22.57 | SpecialK | yes |
| 05:23.00 | Mecworks_ | I have relatives in Walnut Creek. |
| 05:23.17 | SpecialK | never really made it down there much. |
| 05:23.39 | Mecworks_ | it was a pretty cool place (I only visited a couple times). |
| 05:24.27 | Mecworks_ | SpecialK, you know the Garden Park condos? |
| 05:26.23 | SpecialK | not really. |
| 05:26.33 | SpecialK | Target is about as far north as I get. |
| 05:27.30 | Mecworks_ | right. I'm on the road that goes north from Wendy's and the post office. It's nice. pool and all. quiet and I can walk to almost everything I need if I want to (and am not too lazy 8^) |
| 05:28.05 | SpecialK | I loathe ProvOrem traffic and I'm moving closer to BYU with the semester starting. (As in three blocks from the Clyde building) |
| 05:28.28 | Mecworks_ | Mono: A Developer's Notebook is out from O'Reilly. I may have to get it. |
| 05:28.44 | Mecworks_ | ISBN: 0596007922 |
| 05:28.45 | Mecworks_ | This no-fluff, lab-style guide jumps right into Mono 1.0 as you work |
| 05:28.45 | Mecworks_ | through nearly 50 mini-projects that introduce you to the most important |
| 05:28.45 | Mecworks_ | and compelling aspects of the 1.0 release. You'll learn how to acquire, |
| 05:28.45 | Mecworks_ | install, and run Mono on Linux, Windows, or Mac OS X. You'll work with |
| 05:28.45 | Mecworks_ | the various Mono components: Gtk#; the CLR; the class libraries (.NET and |
| 05:28.47 | Mecworks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.48 | synic|home | heh, yeah - Provo traffic is much worse than even Salt Lake traffic |
| 05:28.49 | Mecworks_ | what Mono can do. |
| 05:29.14 | Mecworks_ | Yea, expecialy when school starts in the fall. |
| 05:29.42 | SpecialK | I wouldn't go that far, because I'm unfamiliar with SLC traffic, There's just no good way to get across town. |
| 05:29.48 | Mecworks_ | it's crazy right now. All the students are moving back and the streets are filled with people who can't drive. |
| 05:30.40 | SpecialK | CA drivers drive like they're the most important person on the road, UT drivers drive like they're the only person on the road. |
| 05:30.42 | Mecworks_ | the U has the advantage of haveing a lot of it's students use the bus and TRAX. that reduces a lot of student trffic. |
| 05:30.56 | Mecworks_ | SpecialK, true, true. |
| 05:31.37 | SpecialK | If they had extended TRAX to Provo, it seems like it would be a lot more useful. |
| 05:31.52 | SpecialK | In the way of cutting commutes and traffic in general. |
| 05:32.00 | Mecworks_ | its nice to live close to campus. that's why I was living on 100 So. and 600 E. in SLC. it was a short bike or bus trip to the U. |
| 05:32.50 | SpecialK | instead it takes a couple of hours with risky transfers and it's not practical. |
| 05:32.58 | Mecworks_ | right, I would have stayed in SLC if I had TRAX to Orem/Provo area. I'm happy I moved here though. I doubt I'd be working at Novell if I'd been living in SLC when I got layed off from Caldera. |
| 05:33.29 | Mecworks_ | I would have looked for work in SL valley. |
| 05:34.44 | SpecialK | I don't care too much where I end up working as long as it's a job I can enjoy. |
| 05:35.34 | Mecworks_ | yes, that's important but I can't imagine living somewhere there are no mountains. I enjoy the mountains too much to live on flat land. |
| 05:36.07 | Mecworks_ | Of course, if it's a choice between a job and not paying the mortgage...I'll live in flat land... |
| 05:36.39 | SpecialK | I'm in the BYU Computer Engineering program as a junior so I'm not in that position yet. |
| 05:36.59 | Mecworks_ | yup, been there too. |
| 05:38.03 | Mecworks_ | You get a different perspective out of school. It's good to have both perspectives on software development. I really like academia though. Private industry has it's good points too. |
| 05:39.38 | SpecialK | Just trying to make the most of my time here. The rest will come when it comes. |
| 05:39.47 | SpecialK | My brother' |
| 05:39.55 | Mecworks_ | I worked at the U while going there as a sysadmin and web develper for 6 years. It was great and gave me a lot of freedom to study and write and design software. But working for a company helped my prioritise work and features balanced with deadlines and customer requiements. |
| 05:40.24 | SpecialK | s doing physics research at university of Illinois Champaign, which is basically computer research. |
| 05:41.07 | Mecworks_ | yea, I like comp sci because it touches and can be used in any science. |
| 05:41.35 | Mecworks_ | having a comp sci degree/experience can get you into a lot of different types of work. |
| 05:42.27 | Mecworks_ | well, I;m heading to bed. work starts early... |
| 05:42.41 | SpecialK | Day off tomorrow, but I need the rest. |
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