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| 01:12.14 | byronc | so, quick poll here: do you use emacs or vi mode in your shell? |
| 01:12.23 | Maquis | ?????? |
| 01:13.11 | Maquis | please clarify question... :) |
| 01:15.25 | byronc | bash uses readline so you can choose to use emacs or vi keybindings on the commandline. ksh does this also. emacs seems to be the default for bash. |
| 01:15.53 | Maquis | ah... |
| 01:16.05 | Maquis | then i guess i use emacs keybindings...? |
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| 01:38.11 | emcnabb | byronc, vi |
| 01:39.17 | Maquis | how does one change this? |
| 01:39.27 | Maquis | and exactly when do you use the keybindings... |
| 01:39.41 | SpecialK | when you feel like it. |
| 01:40.18 | Maquis | for what? |
| 01:40.25 | Maquis | what keybindings? |
| 01:41.23 | byronc | for moving up and down in your command history, searching for previous commands, moving within the command you are typing |
| 01:41.32 | Maquis | ah... |
| 01:41.40 | Maquis | and how do you change it? |
| 01:41.45 | byronc | set -o emacs |
| 01:41.47 | byronc | set -o vi |
| 01:42.27 | SpecialK | ooh, free macro$oft security training. . . |
| 01:42.32 | byronc | wow, C-r still works in vi mode in bash |
| 01:43.04 | byronc | now if it only worked in ksh |
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| 01:54.04 | alphahawk | macnewbold you around? |
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| 02:18.36 | Lenolium | OT: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5502143362 -- I'd by that for a dollar. |
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| 02:45.36 | Hanuman | jayce_: you around? |
| 02:45.56 | Hanuman | I gave up and installed LibXSLT |
| 02:48.08 | Hanuman | What is "XML/LibXSLT/parse.al"? |
| 02:53.17 | fozzmoo | Looks like a file of some kind. |
| 02:53.19 | fozzmoo | ;-P |
| 02:53.34 | Hanuman | lol |
| 02:54.13 | Hanuman | thanks fozz - that was a huge help |
| 03:11.01 | Hanuman | sweet! figured it all out |
| 03:11.49 | Hanuman | http://www.jessestay.com - the blog is Blog::Simple, mod_perl 2.0, and I modified Blog::Simple to use LibXSLT vs. the Expat libs |
| 03:16.30 | Maquis | question: how can i make :set expandtab actually work in gvim? |
| 03:16.55 | Maquis | or does it not expand previously existing tabs? |
| 03:20.17 | tensai | Maquis: you want to turn tabs into spaces? |
| 03:20.24 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:20.36 | tensai | :%s/\t/ /g |
| 03:20.44 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:20.48 | tensai | using how ever many spaces you want, of course |
| 03:20.57 | Maquis | and then after i have done that, expandtab should work? |
| 03:21.26 | Maquis | so it's just preexisting tabs that are there? |
| 03:25.03 | tensai | I dunno about expandtab. I never use the stuff. |
| 03:25.10 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:25.13 | Maquis | thanks :) |
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| 03:58.43 | tht1guy | Taylorsville pulled out of UTOPIA |
| 03:58.45 | tht1guy | *grrrrrrrrrr* |
| 04:16.15 | Lenolium | What? |
| 04:16.29 | Lenolium | UTOPIA is awesome.... |
| 04:16.33 | Lenolium | Stupid taylorsville. |
| 04:16.58 | tht1guy | yeah.. I'm very frustrated |
| 04:17.01 | tht1guy | we've been fighting hard there |
| 04:17.15 | tht1guy | don't know why, but Jerry Fenn decided to grace our meeting tonight |
| 04:17.25 | tht1guy | T-ville wasn't a pledging member and shouldn't have been a threat. |
| 04:20.53 | Lenolium | I wish the government was in charge of all of the copper wire, and cable wire, and fiber-optics that is laid to residental areas. Then we wouldn't have Qwest pulling all sorts of crap with DSL, and Comcast being the only provider for cable. |
| 04:21.36 | tht1guy | Yeah.. we need some choice |
| 04:21.43 | tht1guy | like Xmission not going through Qwest |
| 04:21.44 | tht1guy | yuck! |
| 04:22.36 | tht1guy | <== wants to be on Xmission, but can't cause I can't get decent DSL here |
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| 04:35.07 | Lenolium | Hey, I'm moving into the same type of a situation, so it's comcast for me. |
| 04:35.35 | tht1guy | That's what I'm on now |
| 04:35.52 | tht1guy | it was solid for 6 months.. then went south for a couple... |
| 04:35.57 | tht1guy | finally back to decent working order |
| 04:36.05 | tht1guy | sucks that we're still limited to 3Mbit and 256k though |
| 04:36.05 | tht1guy | :) |
| 04:36.12 | tht1guy | When we know 100Mbit/100Mbit could be here |
| 04:37.53 | Lenolium | Actually, they bumped it, it is 4Mbit/somesmallamount now |
| 04:38.09 | tht1guy | 4Mbit/384k, if you want to fork out $10 more per month |
| 04:38.46 | tensai | 384k? I can get better throughput with floppy disks and a slingshot. |
| 04:38.55 | tensai | ~lart cable companies |
| 04:38.57 | tht1guy | hehe! |
| 04:39.23 | tensai | I went from cable to DSL this month and I would never go back without a fight |
| 04:41.35 | Lenolium | Oh man, you can upgrade to their top of the line business DSL and get 512K UP!!! Wow! </sarcasm> |
| 04:42.17 | tht1guy | hehe! That's funny, their techs told me they maxed at 384 |
| 04:42.21 | tht1guy | wonder what they've changed. |
| 04:43.09 | Lenolium | It's 5Mbit down... You would think that they could figure out how to get a little more upstream. |
| 04:45.29 | tht1guy | Yeah, except the cable systems were built for a one-way service |
| 04:45.57 | Lenolium | I've had cable service before (while it was still @Home), and it was down 20-40% of the time. Which was fine by me, because I had no chance in hell of getting DSL |
| 04:46.28 | tht1guy | And they're holding out on the downloads they could be giving. Comcast admitted tonight in our meeting that they could give more... from some articles I've read, it seems they hold out so they won't have to share the network due to regulation stuff, as Qwest does now. |
| 04:48.37 | Lenolium | Yeah, when @Home died, I got back on the network fairly quickly, and ATTBI hadn't capped my node yet. I was getting 10Mbit down for about a week. I made sure to dist-upgrade every machine every day. Downloaded some stuff that I didn't really want, it was fun. |
| 05:00.50 | tht1guy | hehe! |
| 05:01.00 | tht1guy | right on |
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| 05:07.58 | Lenolium | so, what part of Utah do you live in (I'm Orem, and soon upgrading to Holiday) |
| 05:39.32 | bonez39 | Lenolium: an upgrade to Holiday, eh? coming north? |
| 05:39.44 | Mecworks | ~convert 150 miles to kilometers |
| 05:39.54 | Mecworks | thanks ibot! |
| 05:43.55 | Mecworks | ibot rocks! |
| 05:43.56 | ibot | yes I do |
| 05:45.34 | bonez39 | Mec, leno...is anyone else active here now? |
| 05:46.20 | bonez39 | I am curious how I can tell whether I should have sound working on my system? I compiled a new kernel and now only see 'soundcore' from lsmod....what else should show up, to indicate sounds modules are in place.? |
| 05:47.57 | Tene | a bunch of snd_* modules. |
| 05:48.23 | Tene | join #flood and I'll shwo you mine |
| 05:48.27 | Tene | show, even. |
| 05:48.31 | bonez39 | Tene: ok...if there are no snd_* modules ok..I am going to #flood |
| 05:53.09 | bonez39 | Tene: it's weird, I think...I copied the .config file over to my new source folder, before compiling...so it would pickup all the settings.., but clearly it didn't get everything.. |
| 05:53.32 | Tene | That's a problem. |
| 05:54.03 | Tene | make menuconfig and check to make sure that the appropriate sound driver modules are being compiled. |
| 06:08.03 | Tene | 00:06 < Aero> </irc> |
| 06:08.03 | Tene | 00:06 < Aero> Sorry, you can't chat anymore. I close the IRC tag, see? |
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| 06:28.01 | bonez39 | Tene: is is possible to go back now, and just compile the sound modules, with make modules-install? |
| 06:28.36 | Tene | Oh, yeah. |
| 06:29.04 | Tene | You'll want to do `make modules modules_install` instead of just `make modules install` though. |
| 06:29.58 | bonez39 | so, once I figure out which modules I need to create..er...make, then how do I know that it will pick up the right modules? I need to run make menuconfig before that, right? make sure they are marked..then make modules modules_install? and I run that in the source tree of the desired kernel, right? |
| 06:31.08 | bonez39 | do I need to run make mrproper before make menuconfig? |
| 06:31.08 | bonez39 | sorry for asking so much |
| 06:31.41 | Tene | No mrproper, the rest is right. |
| 06:32.00 | Tene | Well, I've nevre used mrproper. I don't even know what it's for, actually. |
| 06:32.06 | Tene | never, even. |
| 06:32.37 | bonez39 | ok...... |
| 06:33.18 | Tene | http://gentoo.org has an excellent alsa setup tutorial, by the way. |
| 06:33.26 | Tene | That's what I always refer to when I have alsa questions. |
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| 06:35.23 | bonez39 | thank you |
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