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| 01:39.18 | SpecialK | So, Jake has supplied me with Madrake 10 and Fedora core 2. Which would run better on my old 500 Mhz machine? |
| 01:39.36 | SpecialK | Fedora 1 runs KDE way too slow. |
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| 03:10.15 | Maquis | if i'm ssh-ed into a machine that's connected to a printer, is there anything special i have to do to get a file on that computer to print? |
| 03:10.21 | Maquis | (i'm using lpr right now) |
| 03:11.04 | Maquis | my parents have a printer on their mac (os x), and i want to be able to print from my laptop without having to go down and connect directly |
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| 03:20.35 | emcnabb | you're sshing into the Mac? |
| 03:20.39 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:20.47 | Maquis | and i'm trying to print to the printer there... |
| 03:20.51 | emcnabb | I'm not sure how printing is set up |
| 03:21.03 | emcnabb | you probably want to set it up as some sort of a print server |
| 03:21.13 | Maquis | ??? |
| 03:21.16 | emcnabb | (I think MacOS X uses a form of CUPS) |
| 03:21.24 | Maquis | ok |
| 03:21.25 | emcnabb | then from your laptop you can print directly to it |
| 03:21.38 | Maquis | how do i set it up as a print server? |
| 03:21.48 | emcnabb | that's a Mac question :-) |
| 03:21.53 | Maquis | ah... |
| 03:21.57 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:21.59 | emcnabb | not sure, but you should be able to "share a printer" somehow |
| 03:22.01 | emcnabb | in the config |
| 03:22.17 | Maquis | yeah... my parents have rendezvous set up to share the printer among the macs... |
| 03:22.25 | emcnabb | then from your laptop just point to the mac as the printserver (depending what type of print server it is) |
| 03:23.23 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 03:23.28 | emcnabb | you can probably set the mac up as an IPP server (I would think) |
| 03:23.39 | Maquis | what's IPP? |
| 03:23.55 | Maquis | (remember... newbie here... ) :) |
| 03:24.03 | emcnabb | internet printing protocol |
| 03:24.07 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:24.13 | emcnabb | it's kind of the new way of setting up printers |
| 03:24.16 | emcnabb | cups deals with it well |
| 03:24.21 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:24.28 | emcnabb | Michael Torrie is the one you should ask |
| 03:24.46 | Maquis | so i can't just use lpr over ssh then...? |
| 03:25.01 | Maquis | (that way just seemed so much easier) |
| 03:25.16 | Maquis | (until it didn't work) |
| 03:27.33 | bigdog_ut | how can i force my nic to do full duplex? |
| 03:28.18 | emcnabb | Maquis, I don't think so |
| 03:28.22 | Maquis | bah... |
| 03:28.27 | emcnabb | it has to know where the printer is |
| 03:28.30 | Maquis | well.. thanks... i'll look into those ideas... |
| 03:28.41 | emcnabb | is the printer connected to the Mac directly? |
| 03:28.42 | Maquis | maybe i don't fully understnad how ssh works... |
| 03:28.44 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:29.08 | emcnabb | well, the only computer that has access to the printer is the mac |
| 03:29.10 | Maquis | i figured that since i was using the mac to do lpr, it seems that it would know where the printer is, since it's directly connected |
| 03:29.14 | emcnabb | it needs to be set up to share |
| 03:29.26 | emcnabb | ok, I'm confused now |
| 03:29.32 | Maquis | yeah... i really don't understand ssh apparently... |
| 03:29.44 | emcnabb | are you printing from your laptop to the mac, or on the mac printing directly? |
| 03:29.54 | Maquis | i'm sshed into the mac... |
| 03:30.02 | emcnabb | oh, ok |
| 03:30.03 | Maquis | and i'm using lpr under ssh... |
| 03:30.12 | emcnabb | well, that's macos specific |
| 03:30.15 | Maquis | so hypothetically, aren't i using lpr on the mac, as if i was sitting there? |
| 03:30.24 | Maquis | or am i confused? |
| 03:30.30 | emcnabb | so when you're on the mac you can type lpr and it works? |
| 03:30.38 | Maquis | i haven't had the chance to try that yet... |
| 03:30.51 | emcnabb | well, lpr probably isn't set up correctly |
| 03:30.59 | Maquis | my dad's on the computer.. |
| 03:30.59 | Maquis | although i s'pose that would help narrow down the problem... |
| 03:30.59 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:31.04 | Maquis | in that case, i'll work on that... |
| 03:31.05 | emcnabb | on the mac the gui comes first, then the command line |
| 03:31.06 | Maquis | thanks a ton! |
| 03:31.20 | emcnabb | it might be giving him permission on the device (printer) |
| 03:31.28 | Maquis | i don't like the gui though :( |
| 03:31.31 | Maquis | him being? |
| 03:32.02 | emcnabb | it might set the permissions on all the devices to be owned by him when he logs in |
| 03:33.35 | Maquis | oh... that makes sense... |
| 03:33.36 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 03:34.22 | emcnabb | bigdog_ut, you around? |
| 03:34.48 | emcnabb | bigdog_ut, have you tried mii-tool yet? |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | I think you can do it there |
| 03:35.59 | bigdog_ut | mii-tool will not work for some reason...however, i have looked at ethtool which seems to do the trick |
| 03:36.56 | emcnabb | ok, cool |
| 03:37.20 | bigdog_ut | it seems that the more and more you use linux the more and more i realize that i can always learn more |
| 03:38.03 | emcnabb | yup :-) |
| 03:38.19 | emcnabb | it's amazing what you can do |
| 03:38.23 | bigdog_ut | and it seems that there is really nothing that you cant do with linux |
| 03:38.51 | emcnabb | yeah, it might be hard to find at first, but it's there |
| 03:39.20 | emcnabb | for example, I just learned about a program called ethtool :-) |
| 03:39.40 | bigdog_ut | same here |
| 03:40.20 | Maquis | emcnabb: IT WORKED! |
| 03:40.27 | Maquis | if i sign in as my dad, i can print |
| 03:40.42 | emcnabb | so it must be doing something wacky with perms |
| 03:40.45 | Maquis | so now i just need to give myself permission :) |
| 03:41.06 | emcnabb | I'm not sure how that all works :-) |
| 03:41.15 | Maquis | thanks for the help! :) |
| 03:41.18 | emcnabb | no prob |
| 03:41.20 | emcnabb | good luck |
| 03:41.24 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:41.39 | Maquis | btw, i need to figure out xforwarding on the cs dept machines sometime... |
| 03:41.42 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:41.46 | Maquis | (minor prank) |
| 03:42.29 | emcnabb | haha |
| 03:42.29 | emcnabb | ok |
| 03:44.07 | Maquis | i think if i can get my friend to change the permissions on her .Xauthority file, i can do it... |
| 03:44.07 | Maquis | (she doesn't know what chmod does... i should be able to get her to do it...) :) |
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| 03:54.20 | Maquis | ~quote scox |
| 03:54.34 | Maquis | ~beat scox |
| 03:54.38 | ibot | ACTION beats scox with a large stick. |
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| 04:55.41 | TimRiker | ibot: ignore brc_!*@* |
| 04:55.41 | ibot | error: chan #utah is invalid. |
| 04:58.46 | TimRiker | ibot: ignore brc_!*@* * |
| 04:58.46 | ibot | error: chan #utah is invalid. |
| 04:58.51 | TimRiker | crap... |
| 04:58.59 | Maquis | what's he mean by that? |
| 04:59.08 | Maquis | i hope we're not invalid... |
| 04:59.24 | Maquis | ibot, hi! |
| 04:59.24 | ibot | hi |
| 05:00.06 | TimRiker | ibot: addignore brc_!*@* * |
| 05:00.06 | ibot | FIXME: brc_!*@* already in ignore list; written over anyway. |
| 05:00.17 | TimRiker | and grins |
| 05:00.26 | TimRiker | brc_ was abusing the bot. |
| 05:00.32 | Maquis | brc_? |
| 05:02.21 | TimRiker | user in other channels. |
| 05:02.38 | Maquis | poor little guy... |
| 05:02.59 | Maquis | well, we'll be nice to him/her |
| 05:03.00 | Maquis | :) |