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| 00:12.48 | Maquis | does ooffice ignore all xmodmap changes? |
| 00:13.34 | Maquis | never mind... |
| 00:14.13 | Maquis | apparently there are some annoying things about xmodmap and certain keys... cuz it doesn't seem to want to change shift either |
| 00:17.34 | Maquis | the few keys in good locations that i never use won't change... :( |
| 00:17.36 | Maquis | oh well... |
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| 01:24.38 | Maquis | hey, i found out how to swap caps_lock and esc... :) life is good... :) |
| 01:26.04 | Jayce^ | do tell what you did |
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| 01:27.09 | Maquis | the part i didn't know was that you have to do: |
| 01:27.14 | Maquis | remove Lock = Caps_Lock |
| 01:27.20 | Maquis | and then after you've made the swap, you do: |
| 01:27.28 | Maquis | add Lock = Caps_Lock |
| 01:27.55 | Maquis | and then the little light on your caps_lock button lights up when you hit escape and such |
| 01:29.55 | Maquis | does anyone know if xmodmap changes affect the entire computer or just the user who makesthem? |
| 01:30.41 | Maquis | (yes, i know i could easily log out and log in as root to find out, but if someone happens to know, that'd be nice |
| 01:31.25 | Maquis | it sounds from this website like it's user-specific, but i'm not certain |
| 01:33.43 | Jayce^ | so like: |
| 01:34.27 | Jayce^ | remove Lock = Caps_Lock |
| 01:34.27 | Jayce^ | keycode 0x42 = Escape |
| 01:34.27 | Jayce^ | keycode 0x09 = Caps_Lock |
| 01:34.27 | Jayce^ | add Lock = Caps_Lock |
| 01:34.35 | Maquis | yeah |
| 01:34.39 | Jayce^ | I haven't played with it in a looong time |
| 01:34.46 | Jayce^ | not even sure if those codes are right |
| 01:34.49 | Maquis | today was my first time... |
| 01:35.04 | Maquis | actually, come to think of it, i've been meaning to get rid of that nasty little insert key |
| 01:35.35 | Maquis | all better |
| 01:36.31 | Jayce^ | my caps lock key still does the lock |
| 01:36.37 | Jayce^ | but escape does it too |
| 01:36.50 | Maquis | you removed the lock... hmm... |
| 01:37.01 | Maquis | are you sure you have the right numbers? |
| 01:37.37 | Jayce^ | not entirely |
| 01:37.52 | Maquis | use xev to figure it out... |
| 01:37.59 | Maquis | (i got that part from the uug website) |
| 01:38.26 | Maquis | or just do a search in the template file you create for Caps_Lock |
| 01:39.01 | Maquis | (to get the template file, i did xmodmap -pke > xmodmap-template |
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| 01:47.10 | Mecworks | hm. Xchat keeps dieing on me. |
| 01:47.32 | Maquis | i'm sorry... |
| 01:47.34 | Maquis | that stinks! |
| 01:47.34 | Jayce^ | how? |
| 01:47.40 | Jayce^ | so this still isn't working right |
| 01:48.01 | Mecworks | well, I'm off doing something then start looking for my xchat window....can't find it.... |
| 01:48.19 | Mecworks | it works fine now since I restarted xchat |
| 01:49.03 | Mecworks | I have never been using it when it's died. It knows I'm not paying enough attention to it and commits suicide. |
| 01:49.17 | Mecworks | it has issues... |
| 01:49.29 | Maquis | haha |
| 01:49.43 | Jayce^ | Maquis, lemme see your modmap file |
| 01:49.55 | Mecworks | rode from Orem to Payson and back today. Nice ride! |
| 01:50.06 | Maquis | how can i send it to you? |
| 01:50.15 | Maquis | (ie, email, etc)? |
| 01:50.38 | Mecworks | print a hard copy and send it via snail mail. |
| 01:50.58 | Maquis | my laptop isn't set up as a server unfortunately, and my desktop is in utah |
| 01:51.11 | Jayce^ | or email |
| 01:52.19 | Maquis | Jayce^, what's your email? |
| 01:52.57 | Jayce^ | jayce@lug-nut.com |
| 01:53.36 | Maquis | i'll send the full file over in case you need to see that too... |
| 01:55.05 | Maquis | ok... you should have the full file pretty soon... :) |
| 01:55.27 | Maquis | or not... it wouldn't take that email address.. |
| 01:55.55 | Jayce^ | woudln't take it? |
| 01:56.00 | Maquis | nah... |
| 01:56.02 | Maquis | but that's ok... |
| 01:56.13 | Maquis | if you figured it out... then... :) |
| 01:57.10 | Jayce^ | so how can you tell xmodmap to set things back to defaults? |
| 02:03.06 | Jayce^ | any ideas? |
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| 02:20.50 | spr | ~lart emcnabb_ |
| 02:20.56 | spr | ~bury emcnabb_ |
| 02:20.58 | ibot | ibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on emcnabb_ |
| 02:21.01 | emcnabb_ | ~whaleslap spr |
| 02:21.03 | ibot | ACTION slaps spr upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 02:21.07 | spr | ~kill emcnabb_ |
| 02:21.09 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged fluxmeson gun at emcnabb_ |
| 02:21.16 | spr | ~kill emcnabb_ |
| 02:21.18 | ibot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-neutrino gun at emcnabb_ |
| 02:24.02 | Newsome | emcnabb_, Andrew told me that you guys already got blinking lights! |
| 02:24.25 | emcnabb_ | yeah |
| 02:24.29 | emcnabb_ | it's coming along well |
| 02:24.48 | Newsome | That's pretty cool. I won't tell you how long it took _me_ the first time! :) |
| 02:25.48 | Newsome | So, did you get avr-gcc running and everything? |
| 02:26.53 | emcnabb_ | it's working on Andrew's laptop |
| 02:27.08 | emcnabb_ | I'm going to mess with it later tonight or tomorrow |
| 02:27.17 | Newsome | That's great. |
| 02:28.19 | Newsome | spr is probably jealous ;) |
| 02:30.24 | emcnabb_ | haha |
| 02:30.38 | emcnabb_ | spr has physics to worry about |
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| 03:49.11 | Maquis | emcnabb: blinking lights? |
| 03:49.11 | Maquis | on what? |
| 03:49.14 | Maquis | Jayce^: i think you have to do it manually... that's the only way i know at least |
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| 04:15.44 | Maquis | when i use rpm -e, will it warn me if i'm about to remove something that's required by another program? |
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| 04:28.08 | emcnabb_ | Maquis, it should |
| 04:28.11 | Maquis | ok.. |
| 04:28.21 | Maquis | what's the best way to free up space in linux |
| 04:28.22 | Maquis | ? |
| 04:28.35 | emcnabb_ | check /tmp |
| 04:28.39 | emcnabb_ | check /var/log |
| 04:28.47 | Maquis | (and what was the blinking lights thing?) |
| 04:28.49 | Maquis | i got /tmp |
| 04:28.54 | Maquis | i'll grab /var/log |
| 04:28.57 | emcnabb_ | if you use apt or another packaging program, check the cache |
| 04:29.04 | Maquis | where would that be? |
| 04:29.33 | emcnabb_ | we got some embedded systems to play with (processor boards) |
| 04:29.39 | Maquis | fun!!! |
| 04:29.44 | Maquis | that's way cool! |
| 04:29.54 | emcnabb_ | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 04:30.06 | emcnabb_ | hold on |
| 04:30.49 | Maquis | ok |
| 04:30.55 | emcnabb_ | apt-get clean |
| 04:31.04 | emcnabb_ | that will clear up stuff for you |
| 04:31.07 | Maquis | nice |
| 04:31.08 | Maquis | thanks |
| 04:31.14 | emcnabb_ | the man page has more info |
| 04:31.26 | Maquis | my laptop unfortunately still has to have windoze on it til the end of the summer (and then i'm wiping that off) |
| 04:31.38 | Maquis | and so the linux half is running low on spacec |
| 04:32.32 | emcnabb_ | yeah |
| 04:34.04 | Maquis | it's looking better |
| 04:34.04 | Maquis | 796 free MB instead of 630 |
| 04:35.44 | Maquis | i s'pose i probably don't "need" the kernel source... :( |
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| 04:37.37 | emcnabb_ | it's good to have, but you don't need it |
| 04:37.43 | Maquis | yeah |
| 04:37.47 | emcnabb_ | if you do need it you can always redownload it |
| 04:37.48 | Maquis | this is ridiculous... |
| 04:37.55 | emcnabb_ | do you use nvidia drivers? |
| 04:38.02 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 04:38.04 | Maquis | oh wait |
| 04:38.05 | Maquis | not on this box |
| 04:38.14 | emcnabb_ | you'll at least need the kernel headers if you do |
| 04:38.22 | Maquis | is there any way to resize my win partition and increase size for this without killing things? |
| 04:38.46 | Maquis | (i only use win for work... i don't need 20 GB for it) |
| 04:52.24 | emcnabb_ | qtparted or partition magic |
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| 05:57.56 | Maquis | Jayce^, if you want to undo the changes you made to xmodmap, all you have to do is restart... (i restarted, and they're all gone) |
| 05:58.37 | Jayce^ | yeah, I wound up doing that too |
| 05:59.01 | Jayce^ | just restart the x-session of course, since I'd done it inside there |
| 06:00.26 | Maquis | yeah |
| 06:00.34 | Maquis | any way to make it permanent you think? |
| 06:01.11 | Jayce^ | you start it in one of your login scripts |
| 06:01.22 | Maquis | what scripts again are login scripts? |
| 06:01.30 | Maquis | (i'm trying to remember...) |
| 06:01.33 | Maquis | and not having much luck |
| 06:02.00 | Jayce^ | Xsession would be a good one |
| 06:02.08 | Maquis | is that in ~/? |
| 06:03.21 | Jayce^ | can be a .Xsession, but there is also a system one |
| 06:03.26 | Jayce^ | depends on your needs |
| 06:03.28 | Jayce^ | and your distro |
| 06:03.47 | Maquis | where would the system one be located? (fedora 1) |
| 06:03.52 | Maquis | is it in etc? |
| 06:03.58 | Maquis | or do you not know? |
| 06:05.04 | Jayce^ | not sure on theirs, but possibly /etc/X11 |
| 06:05.04 | Maquis | ok |
| 06:05.07 | Maquis | thanks a ton!!! :) |
| 06:05.09 | Jayce^ | locate Xsession |
| 06:05.13 | Maquis | ok... :) |
| 06:05.37 | Jayce^ | you could do a lot of other places too, but thats just one |
| 06:05.42 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 06:05.48 | Maquis | i'll see what i can find :) |
| 06:05.53 | Maquis | thanks :) |
| 06:05.54 | Maquis | gnight |
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| 06:14.24 | SpecialK | you're back |
| 06:20.38 | Maquis | yes |
| 06:21.18 | Maquis | :) |
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