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| 01:10.37 | HarleyPig | ARGH. Why do I keep trying #perl. |
| 01:12.06 | synic|l | masochism? |
| 01:13.06 | HarleyPig | probably |
| 01:13.17 | HarleyPig | I'm into M&M. |
| 01:13.32 | HarleyPig | :] |
| 01:13.40 | synic|l | one time someone actually helped me in there. |
| 01:13.46 | synic|l | I don't think they meant to, though. |
| 01:14.04 | HarleyPig | Yeah, it happens often enough that I keep trying (like 1 out of 7 times). |
| 01:14.17 | HarleyPig | But it's usually at 3am. |
| 01:19.40 | Maquis | ~quote scox |
| 01:20.35 | Maquis | yay! |
| 01:20.45 | Maquis | it's below 5!!!!!!!! |
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| 02:24.10 | neybar | yeah... #perl isn't very helpful... |
| 02:24.43 | neybar | actually most other channels I've tried on freenode aside from #utah aren't very helpful. |
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| 04:05.49 | hans | neybar: #ruby is a notable exception |
| 04:06.03 | neybar | haven't been in there yet |
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| 05:23.59 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
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| 12:54.09 | hans_ | cvs exploit |
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| 13:52.42 | Hanuman | question... |
| 13:52.49 | Hanuman | any mailman users in here? |
| 14:19.13 | hans_ | Hanuman: yeah |
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| 14:34.21 | von | ~lart oit |
| 14:34.54 | von | stupid network is ridiculously slow right now. |
| 14:45.25 | hans | oit? whatcha doin' on campus? |
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| 14:53.22 | von | mail, takes a minute just to move down to the next new message |
| 14:53.51 | von | how do you configure mysql(on mac) to store the db's in a particular place? |
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| 14:56.31 | von | or were are the config files located? |
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| 15:00.08 | LrnChndlr | hey, how can i make anonymous ftp work in mozilla? |
| 15:00.49 | LrnChndlr | apparently by default, it is sending an email address of example@mozilla.org as the anonymous password, and i can't figure out where to change that |
| 15:01.10 | LrnChndlr | an ftp site i am trying to connect to is not accepting that as a valiid email address |
| 15:07.00 | synic | von, did you install via fink? |
| 15:07.14 | synic | /usr/local/mysql-standard-4.0.18-apple-darwin6.8-powerpc/support-files |
| 15:07.14 | von | it was already on there, mac xserve |
| 15:08.08 | von | no support-files found anywhere. |
| 15:08.14 | synic | hrm. |
| 15:08.34 | synic | and no my.cnf |
| 15:09.44 | synic | locate cnf | grep my |
| 15:09.45 | von | nope |
| 15:10.15 | von | ok, my-(huge|large|medium|small).cnf |
| 15:10.37 | synic | lol, and you got me how it decides which one of those to use. |
| 15:10.43 | von | ok, those are example confs |
| 15:10.56 | von | so you pick one and move it to my.cnf is my guess. |
| 15:10.59 | von | and modify |
| 15:12.13 | von | what's the mac equiv of meminfo? |
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| 15:12.52 | synic | what's meminfo do? |
| 15:13.36 | von | cat /proc/meminfo gives you the memory specs, usage, etc. |
| 15:16.52 | Bradipo | von: Figure it out? |
| 15:17.11 | von | well, i'm not sure wich one to use, probably medium though. |
| 15:17.13 | Bradipo | Since Mac is essentially BSD you should be able to use top to view the memory usage. |
| 15:17.30 | von | # This is for a system with little memory (32M - 64M) where MySQL plays |
| 15:17.30 | von | # a important part and systems up to 128M very MySQL is used together with |
| 15:17.31 | von | # other programs (like a web server) |
| 15:17.49 | von | i want to know the memory total |
| 15:18.09 | synic | yeah, looks like top does show the memory |
| 15:18.31 | von | looks like 2 gigs |
| 15:19.30 | von | and my-huge.cnf says it for 'large system with memory of 1G-2G where the system runs mainly |
| 15:19.34 | von | # MySQL' |
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| 15:27.11 | adminsmurf | #gentoo |
| 15:27.25 | adminsmurf | OOPS |
| 15:35.21 | hans | why in the world is cdparanoia segfaulting on me? :( |
| 15:40.34 | tensai | hans: ask gdb |
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| 15:56.54 | neybar_work | This is a really dumb question, but does anyone know of anything that can stream wmv files aside from windows media services? |
| 15:57.24 | Bradipo | netcat maybe? |
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| 15:57.45 | idahoJoe | vlc? |
| 15:58.48 | idahoJoe | server side vlc of course is what I was referring to. but I think it can push a stream of wmv files. |
| 15:59.41 | idahoJoe | and I believe the server side runs on both *nix as well as windows. The client does anyway. |
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| 16:10.06 | sjansen | So here's one y'all probably haven't seen before: |
| 16:10.49 | sjansen | In a little more than a month, I'm going on vacation to South America. Yesterday, I got a call from church travel. |
| 16:11.06 | von | i'm following the instructions on the mysql website, after i do mysql_install_db and run mysqld_safe -u mysql, it starts up the deamon, then a short time later i get the message mysqld ended and it exits |
| 16:11.12 | sjansen | Apparently the Brazilian government thinks I'm a missionary trying to enter the country illegally. |
| 16:11.36 | HarleyPig | :D sjansen: Why? |
| 16:11.48 | sjansen | That's what the church is trying to figure out. |
| 16:12.00 | HarleyPig | Did you serve a mission in Brazil? |
| 16:12.05 | sjansen | Yes. |
| 16:12.20 | HarleyPig | Maybe they just cross-checked your ssn and think you're still a missionary. |
| 16:12.24 | sjansen | Apparently they claim that the paperwork I submitted looks alot like what the church normally submits. |
| 16:12.25 | hans | von, do you need to borrow my mysql book? |
| 16:12.30 | von | do you have a name-tag in your passport photo? |
| 16:12.45 | von | hans, perhaps, i'm trying to get it set up now, though. |
| 16:12.56 | sjansen | HarleyPig: I asked them that. They said it should be a different consulate. |
| 16:13.01 | hans | get your boss to approve travel time and come pick it up :-) |
| 16:13.05 | HarleyPig | Isn't it the same paperwork? I mean, isn't it prescribed by the Brazillian government? |
| 16:13.23 | sjansen | von: No, just me in a suit with my ugly old pair of glasses and a bad harido. |
| 16:13.48 | hans | it's got to be the bad hairdo |
| 16:13.59 | sjansen | HarleyPig: The church guy asked me if I might have accidentally submitted my priesthood lineage, or other notarized content. |
| 16:14.08 | HarleyPig | :D |
| 16:14.10 | von | where are you, hans? |
| 16:15.15 | sjansen | I worked with BYU student travel to book the tickets. They downloaded the visa application from the internet that day, then referred me to a place in SL to handle the application process. |
| 16:15.28 | hans | work |
| 16:15.36 | von | in springville? |
| 16:16.16 | hans | i15 south, first springville exit, east through the light over the hill and left at the light. wencor building second driveway on your left, ask the front desk to page me |
| 16:16.43 | von | well, if i go get a book then, it would be from jacob |
| 16:18.40 | Hanuman | hans: mailman for some reason isn't allowing attachments through. At first it was holding them for moderator approval, but after increasing the max-message-size the message makes it, but no attachment. I've even turned off filtering to make sure it wasn't that. |
| 16:19.12 | hans | got me. never had that trouble |
| 16:19.19 | hans | but never messed with large attachments either |
| 16:19.25 | HarleyPig | gmailswap.com |
| 16:20.27 | hans | ok, I asked this on plug but no answer there yet. if I set up my dsl modem to be "Transparent Bridge" and set up my computer to do PPPoA, would that work? |
| 16:21.10 | Hanuman | hans: it's for my extended family. People keep trying to send PAF files |
| 16:21.33 | Bradipo | Only if your ISP allows it. |
| 16:21.49 | Bradipo | Most ISPs don't do bridging mode. |
| 16:21.53 | Hanuman | hmmm...well, I restarted my mailman service - we'll see if that affects it. |
| 16:22.18 | hans | doesn't a bridge just forward the frames? |
| 16:22.30 | hans | what would the ISP need to do to support it? |
| 16:22.32 | Bradipo | Yes, but you're talking about bridging ATM. |
| 16:22.47 | Bradipo | Bridging mode is no the same as an ethernet bridge. |
| 16:22.58 | Bradipo | You could try it I suppose. |
| 16:23.55 | von | well, i got it, mysql_install_db -u mysql wasn't creating the files with the proper user. |
| 16:24.01 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org http://sllug.org http://uug.byu.edu/ http://fslc.usu.edu http://www.ldsoss.org - ask ibot for the news (/msg ibot news #Utah) |
| 16:25.00 | von | is it better to symbolicly link the datadir to somewhere else, or to pass the -h option? |
| 16:25.36 | von | we want the data to reside on our raid drive. |
| 16:26.16 | von | the sybolic link is simpler, is there any reason not to do it that way? |
| 16:27.18 | Bradipo | symbolic links are good for patching up things like this. |
| 16:33.32 | sjansen | So here's one for you mysql geeks: we've got a database with tables containing columns named "fields". Apparently the columns aren't being dumped correctly. Ideas? |
| 16:34.41 | von | just the columns named "fields" ? |
| 16:36.40 | sjansen | sorry, table named "fields" |
| 16:37.44 | von | how do you get ls --color to work on OS X |
| 16:37.53 | sjansen | It's not dumping the table. "error: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'fields' at line 1" |
| 16:38.12 | sjansen | "mysqldump: Can't get info about table: 'fields' " |
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| 16:39.30 | von | sjansen, i had an interesting problem a couple weeks ago, when i inserted into a table i used a capital letter, when i did select * from the table, the new insert showed up, but when i did select * where id=$id where $id was the id of the new entry, it didn't show up. perhaps it's related somehow |
| 16:39.48 | von | that is, i used a cap in the table name |
| 16:39.54 | von | whereas it was normally all small |
| 16:41.18 | Hanuman | hot dog time... |
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| 16:50.20 | hans | Bradipo: I'm thinking it might work. see http://www.olympus.net/dsl/tbridged.html |
| 16:50.48 | hans | not much for technical details, and rfc 1483 is hard to read to say to say the least |
| 16:52.00 | hans | i'm still trying to figure out for sure, but it looks like the norm is often to encapsulate the ppp with rfc 1483 |
| 16:53.36 | hans | but i haven't found anything definitive on that |
| 16:53.46 | hans | could be only pppoe, and pppoa is different |
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| 17:32.43 | von | well goody goody, got mysql up and running on our new xserve (: |
| 17:33.09 | von | now, we just need to move the db's over, changing them from myisam to innodb |
| 17:33.13 | von | any ideas? |
| 17:34.02 | HarleyPig | Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. |
| 17:35.20 | von | perhaps less efficient, and how does that get me innodb? |
| 17:36.19 | von | ~seen orbit |
| 17:36.24 | ibot | orbit <~hanksdc@63.108.71.6> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 8d 18h 11m 9s ago, saying: 'That's way cool. (no pun intended...)'. |
| 17:36.41 | von | wow, looks like he's not around to do any nuking. |
| 17:37.35 | HarleyPig | von: Dunno ... but it seemed appropriate at the time. |
| 17:38.25 | von | what's the quickest, most painless way to get a vnc connection to a mac with os x ? (no fink yet or apt-get) |
| 17:48.46 | Hanuman | von: client or server? |
| 17:49.13 | von | server |
| 17:49.49 | von | need to get a server on the os x |
| 17:50.07 | von | unless there's one there by default already |
| 17:53.49 | von | interesting, there is a file _vnc in a zsh/.../functions directory |
| 17:54.08 | von | a shell script that does vnc stuff |
| 17:58.12 | von | no idea why it's there or how to use it. |
| 17:58.38 | von | and there's none of the vncserver, vncviewer stuff installed that it would try to run.. |
| 18:14.56 | Hanuman | von: look on Google - there's quite a few vnc servers for Mac |
| 18:15.14 | Hanuman | clients are a little harder to find |
| 18:15.26 | Hanuman | but for a client I like Chicken of the VNC |
| 18:15.38 | Hanuman | still a bit buggy compared to RealVNC though |
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| 19:01.48 | Hanuman | so what's new in Utah these days? |
| 19:06.34 | von | anyone used the apple remote desktop? |
| 19:08.52 | Hanuman | the one to allow one mac to connect to another mac? |
| 19:08.57 | Hanuman | or mac to windows? |
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| 19:15.37 | von | mac to mac |
| 19:16.11 | von | one mac doesn't have a client that i can find. can you download the client? |
| 19:16.32 | sjansen | There's a java version of it, yes. |
| 19:21.13 | von | sjansen, do you have a link? |
| 19:21.23 | sjansen | no |
| 19:22.21 | emcnabb | don't listen to anything sjansen says |
| 19:22.41 | emcnabb | he's in a bad mood today; he's about ready to snap |
| 19:23.46 | Hanuman | von: have you checked apple.com? |
| 19:25.11 | von | yes, all i found there was an update |
| 19:25.16 | Hanuman | http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/ |
| 19:25.34 | Hanuman | For the client: |
| 19:25.36 | Hanuman | http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n120208 |
| 19:26.51 | Hanuman | Office 2004 for Mac is awesome (not to complement M$ or anything) |
| 19:27.10 | Hanuman | The note-taking features in the new Word out-beat any of their current products by far |
| 19:29.38 | macnewbold | "Note-taking features"? What do you mean? Like it will listen in class for you, so you can sleep, play solitare, etc? |
| 19:33.51 | Hanuman | macnewbold: yeah - it will record audio and attach it to your document |
| 19:34.04 | Hanuman | so basically, yes |
| 19:38.50 | Hanuman | and Mac of course |
| 19:44.52 | brailsmt_ | I have two WAPs, I have my old computer that I would like to set up in my room without drilling holes for wires, can I setup the two WAPS to talk to each other? |
| 19:49.34 | hans | Bradipo: looks like rfc1483/pppoa is a non-reality, but rfc1483/pppoe may work. xmission says "we don't support it but some have reported it works" |
| 19:49.38 | hans | so I'll try that |
| 19:51.49 | spr | brailsmt_: depends if one of them supports bridging. |
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| 19:52.24 | kpettit | lo |
| 19:52.40 | hans | ah yes, bridging is the word of the day |
| 19:53.05 | Hanuman | brailsmt_: never messed with it but you could experiment with meshed networking |
| 19:53.25 | Hanuman | get a hacked firmware for the Linksys WRT54G and you can do it |
| 19:56.36 | brailsmt_ | i know the linksys can do bridging... |
| 19:56.42 | brailsmt_ | do they both? |
| 19:56.48 | brailsmt_ | or just one? |
| 19:57.39 | hans | just one needs to |
| 19:58.10 | brailsmt_ | cool |
| 19:58.23 | brailsmt_ | now i just need to figure out how to put the linksys in bridging mode... |
| 19:58.24 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 19:59.47 | brailsmt_ | :) |
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| 20:06.24 | brailsmt_ | it can only do wireless bridge with another linksys wap... |
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| 20:10.02 | hans | you could set up your laptop to be the bridge. :-) the networks are connected as long as it can see both |
| 20:12.29 | brailsmt_ | hans: yeah, but i need to set up the computer to work when the laptop is absent... |
| 20:12.38 | brailsmt_ | i guess i'll need to drill |
| 20:12.58 | RyanBE | ooh... Drilling... I'm jealous. |
| 20:14.05 | brailsmt_ | another example of a company making it so i can't use products i own the way i want to... |
| 20:14.57 | brailsmt_ | ohhh, but the code used in their products is gpl... |
| 20:15.27 | brailsmt_ | i wonder if the 'won't talk to anything but linksys' is a software or hardware "feature" |
| 20:22.00 | Bradipo | hans: Cool, I didn't know it would work. |
| 20:22.16 | Bradipo | I thought that ``we don't support it'' meant that they specifically didn't allow it. |
| 20:22.25 | brailsmt_ | Cisco owns linksys? |
| 20:22.49 | Bradipo | I believe so, yes. |
| 20:23.14 | hans | Bradipo: "We don't support bridging, but with recent upgrades we've noticed that |
| 20:23.15 | hans | PPPoE can work. Officially we don't support PPPoE, but you're welcome |
| 20:23.15 | hans | to try and use it at your own risk. Be aware though that we can't |
| 20:23.15 | hans | provide any support or take any responsibility if it doesn't work |
| 20:23.15 | hans | right. If you have problems you'll need to switch back to PPPoA. " |
| 20:23.22 | hans | I love XMission. :) |
| 20:23.47 | brailsmt_ | of course the firmware code is available for most all linksys WAPs under the GPL, except mine... |
| 20:24.16 | Bradipo | lol |
| 20:26.58 | Bradipo | Me too, I've been with XM since 1995. |
| 20:27.35 | Bradipo | First with dialup, then finally (once Qwest got their act together) with DSL. |
| 20:27.43 | Bradipo | Hopefully one day I can have UTOPIA with XM. :-) |
| 20:31.58 | hans | that will be a wonderful day indeed |
| 20:37.29 | brailsmt_ | btw, sco group doesn't even own the copyright to SCO, Tarantella still owns it... |
| 20:40.13 | brailsmt_ | the own the logo, but 'SCO' is still trademarked by Tarantella |
| 20:42.16 | brailsmt_ | so yet again by not adding "SCO is a registered trademark of Tarantella Corp" to their attributions, they are stepping all over someone elses property rights... |
| 20:42.24 | brailsmt_ | the irony never ends... |
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| 20:51.57 | brailsmt_ | see for yourself, search at www.uspto.gov for SCO and see if you see anything related to Darl and company... |
| 20:52.29 | brailsmt_ | and apparently it was never transfered from tarantella to caldera... |
| 21:00.11 | Bradipo | That's interesting. |
| 21:00.18 | Bradipo | I wonder why we get the domain name then? |
| 21:00.33 | Bradipo | And why are we called SCO and they Tarantella? |
| 21:01.47 | Bradipo | I obviously don't know the answers to these... :-) |
| 21:06.50 | brailsmt_ | well I don't understand trademark law all that well so I don't know how specific trademarks are... |
| 21:07.01 | brailsmt_ | http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=s827rd.3.17 |
| 21:07.17 | von | /msg ibot yo |
| 21:07.26 | brailsmt_ | s/all that well/at all/ |
| 21:07.53 | von | er, my irssi is broken |
| 21:08.47 | brailsmt | irssi, or your fingers? |
| 21:08.48 | brailsmt | :) |
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| 21:09.34 | hans | what was broken von? |
| 21:09.46 | brailsmt | KCI |
| 21:09.56 | von | oh, the interface was getting all wiggy |
| 21:10.02 | hans | here's what I saw just before von said taht |
| 21:10.04 | hans | 15:11 < von> -!- brailsmt_ is now known as brailsmt |
| 21:10.11 | hans | colored and everything |
| 21:10.18 | von | interesting |
| 21:10.28 | von | i had some strange jibberish in the status bar |
| 21:10.34 | hans | that's a pretty cool talent. how did you do it? Then brailsmt_ really was known as brailsmt and it didn't say it twice |
| 21:11.01 | von | so i tried to open a new window with /msg ibot yo to see if that would still be messed. |
| 21:11.22 | von | that's when it apparently sent that |
| 21:11.25 | brailsmt | von: is hijacking freenod |
| 21:12.09 | von | no, i think somehow it sent a completely emtpy message and the next thing just displayed after my name with nothing. |
| 21:12.36 | von | i promise you all, i have no evil intentions and will never hijack freenode |
| 21:12.43 | hans | that's no fun |
| 21:12.50 | brailsmt | gtg, cya |
| 21:13.10 | hans | one of these days I've got to figure out how to change irssi back to reporting my username instead of emcnabb :) |
| 21:13.37 | von | so are you not using irssi right now? |
| 21:13.47 | hans | i'm using irssi. do a /wii hans |
| 21:14.21 | *** join/#utah botbot (~botbot@buscaluz.org) |
| 21:14.31 | hans | botbot, go jump in a lake |
| 21:14.53 | von | ~emcnabb@fugalh.dsl.xmission.com |
| 21:14.59 | von | ircname: Fred |
| 21:15.07 | von | cool |
| 21:15.26 | von | you could have just created a user emcnabb and run irssi from there. |
| 21:15.54 | HarleyPig | o/~ Fred, you were a good dog o/~ |
| 21:17.25 | von | what does botbot do? |
| 21:20.55 | HarleyPig | does the chacha? |
| 21:23.24 | von | botbot: do something |
| 21:30.20 | von | ~shave |
| 21:30.22 | ibot | ACTION runs after HarleyPig with a razor |
| 21:30.28 | hans | lol |
| 21:30.48 | hans | run pig run! |
| 21:39.04 | Jayce^ | http://www.comics.com/comics/sheldon/index.html |
| 21:42.26 | von | how can i rotate a pdf? |
| 21:42.41 | RyanBE | turn your head 90 degrees |
| 21:44.43 | RyanBE | von: what tools do you have? |
| 21:44.59 | von | a neck |
| 21:45.17 | von | xpdf, gv, pdf2ps |
| 21:46.44 | RyanBE | von:http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2001-05/msg00382.html |
| 21:49.55 | hans | von: protocol unkonw |
| 21:50.45 | emcnabb | Jayce^, that's funny :-) |
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| 21:52.18 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, did you feel like that before you sent your laptop in? :) |
| 21:58.36 | HarleyPig | :D :D :D I Love it@! |
| 21:58.55 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 21:59.01 | HarleyPig | ~shave |
| 21:59.03 | ibot | ACTION runs after HarleyPig with a razor |
| 21:59.10 | Jayce^ | lol |
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| 22:36.50 | Jayce^ | oooh, looks like bryan just sent a nice 'trolling for flamewars' message to plug :) this could be a fun one |
| 22:39.07 | hans | that's funny. cvs and subversion on bugtraq the same day |
| 22:42.58 | von | ibot, jump in a lake |
| 22:54.17 | fishyfire | does anyone know of a good brand of case or have any preferences? |
| 22:55.09 | neybar | antec is really nice. caseedge is nice too for the cheaper end of things |
| 22:55.30 | Jayce^ | yeah, antec's are really nice |
| 22:55.40 | Jayce^ | can get good ones at decent prices |
| 22:56.00 | fishyfire | i am looking for around 65-70 with at least a 400 watt power supply |
| 22:56.11 | Jayce^ | just don't try playing with aluminum ones at ls micro :) |
| 22:56.23 | neybar | you got cut too? |
| 22:56.24 | fishyfire | lol k |
| 22:56.29 | fishyfire | LOL |
| 22:56.40 | Jayce^ | fishyfire, I know you can get nice ones with a 350 for less than that.. I'd bet it's possible to find one with a 400 then.. |
| 22:56.44 | Jayce^ | neybar, oh yeah |
| 22:56.53 | emcnabb | buying a car sucks |
| 22:57.01 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, still looking around 'eh? |
| 22:57.11 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 22:57.13 | emcnabb | :-( |
| 22:57.20 | RyanBE | what're you looking for? |
| 22:57.38 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, I heard an ad on the radio, a play in slc is doing a deal, if you buy a new car, they have a fleet of used that you get to pick one for free.... totally serious |
| 22:57.48 | Jayce^ | s/play/place/ |
| 22:58.32 | emcnabb | RyanBE, something that's low maintenance and fuel efficient |
| 22:58.46 | emcnabb | been looking at a few Nissan Sentras and Hondas |
| 22:58.54 | RyanBE | yeah, highMPG is important these days... |
| 22:59.08 | emcnabb | Jayce^, I already have a used one :-) |
| 22:59.48 | emcnabb | what type is it? |
| 23:00.00 | Jayce^ | legacy.. |
| 23:00.09 | Jayce^ | but I can't, can't afford to replace the vehicle yet.. |
| 23:00.25 | Jayce^ | gotta wait 'till we can get something with more seating, then we'll sell it |
| 23:00.48 | emcnabb | cool |
| 23:02.57 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, check out subaru's, not quite as good of mileage, but great durability, and excellent safety.. |
| 23:03.39 | RyanBE | and generally good in the snow |
| 23:03.48 | HarleyPig | I'm doing a quick-n-dirty hack trying to disable an input image using getElementById. (document.getElementById("submit").disabled = true) but it's not working in either Mozilla or IE. Any clues? |
| 23:04.31 | HarleyPig | If I manually add the disabled attribute the image input is disabled, but the javascript isn't working. |
| 23:12.07 | RyanBE | HP: define "input image". Is it an input field, a submit button? |
| 23:12.19 | HarleyPig | iput type="image" ... |
| 23:12.23 | RyanBE | ok |
| 23:12.46 | HarleyPig | Ok ... got mozilla working by putting the script at the bottom of the page. But IE still isn't working. |
| 23:13.00 | RyanBE | was your script in the head |
| 23:13.04 | RyanBE | <head> |
| 23:13.07 | HarleyPig | Nope. |
| 23:13.13 | HarleyPig | It's a q-n-d. |
| 23:13.23 | HarleyPig | Page is being built from 2-3 different sources. |
| 23:13.44 | RyanBE | what calls the script? onClick somewhere? |
| 23:14.06 | HarleyPig | Nothing (that's next actually). This is just raw javascript that disables the input tag. |
| 23:14.10 | RyanBE | or is it on load? |
| 23:14.12 | RyanBE | aha |
| 23:14.18 | RyanBE | I hate JS |
| 23:14.31 | HarleyPig | I'm in a love hate relationship with it right now. |
| 23:16.31 | HarleyPig | Well, I put it in a function then put it in window.onload, mozilla is still disabled, but IE isn't changing. |
| 23:18.44 | RyanBE | does it work if it's in a form, then you use the full DOM name? |
| 23:18.45 | RyanBE | i.e. |
| 23:18.56 | RyanBE | document.form1.submit.disabled = true; |
| 23:19.40 | RyanBE | also submit may be a reserved word, so if the ID of that input is 'submit', maybe IE chokes... |
| 23:20.35 | HarleyPig | Found the problem. IE doesn't support disabled on input image type. |
| 23:20.44 | HarleyPig | I hate MS. |
| 23:20.45 | RyanBE | that would certainly explain it. |
| 23:21.06 | HarleyPig | So I'll have to add a onmousedown event handler. |
| 23:22.04 | RyanBE | or use a 'regular' button... if this is really qnd |
| 23:22.25 | HarleyPig | No, this add on is a q-n-d ... the page is live. |
| 23:22.34 | RyanBE | nevermind |
| 23:22.37 | HarleyPig | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.06 | HarleyPig | Ok ... now I have to check and see if a checkbox exists, if it doesn't return true, otherwise if it's checked, return true, otherwise return false. |
| 23:27.08 | HarleyPig | Do I have this right? var c = document.getElementById("maxquota") ; if ( c ) { if ( c.checked ) { return true } else { return false } } else { return true } |
| 23:27.14 | HarleyPig | eww ... sorry. |
| 23:29.12 | Jayce^ | doesn't javascript support ?: ? |
| 23:30.08 | HarleyPig | *shrug* Don't know it well enough. I'll give it a shot ... but it's still not working. |
| 23:30.28 | RyanBE | yes. |
| 23:30.32 | HarleyPig | Bag it. I'm gonna play some UT2k4 |
| 23:30.36 | neybar | lol |
| 23:30.37 | RyanBE | hehehe |
| 23:31.39 | Jayce^ | that's always a good solution :) |
| 23:33.52 | RyanBE | (HarleyPig frustrated) ? UT2k4 : Javascript |
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| 23:50.51 | Bradipo | Anyone here a CNE? |
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