| 00:00.06 | Newsome | We all meeting anywhere up in SLC, or just go right in? |
| 00:02.06 | Maquis | anyone have a problem with Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from `GtkSuperWin' to `GtkWidget' in firefox? |
| 00:02.31 | hans | does anyone pay attention to Gtk-WARNING messages? the toolkit that cried wolf |
| 00:03.04 | Maquis | is there a way to get them to stop filling up my shell is my main question |
| 00:03.29 | Maquis | i figured that since i've had them for about 3 months, they're probably not too big of a problem... but they're kind of annoying |
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| 00:06.04 | Newsome | you could get rid of them with '2>/dev/null' (in bash) |
| 00:07.31 | Maquis | so say firefox 2>/dev/null & when i turn on firefox? |
| 00:07.34 | Newsome | redirects standard error to nowhere |
| 00:07.44 | Newsome | Yeah, that should probably do it. |
| 00:08.46 | Maquis | it works... |
| 00:09.10 | Maquis | that's somewhat annoying to type though... grrr... is this just cuz firefox is still in development? |
| 00:09.59 | Newsome | It's a GTK thing. For some reason, GTK always complains a lot. I'm not sure why (GTK developers incompetent?) |
| 00:10.39 | AbsolutZero | no, GTK complains a lot no matter what |
| 00:15.30 | Moeser | gtk should have extra compile options like "--eat-your-food-and-quit-complaining" or "--be-quiet-or-ill-turn-this-car-around" |
| 00:16.39 | Moeser | depending on the degree of verbosity required of course ;) |
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| 00:39.38 | Moeser | anyone making the pilgrimage to that meeting in slc from utah county and willing to pick up an extra? |
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| 01:45.10 | fozzmoo | who else is in this big room with me? |
| 01:45.59 | fozzmoo | nOBODY?! |
| 01:46.06 | fozzmoo | I'm the only one online now? |
| 01:46.12 | fozzmoo | How disappointing. |
| 01:55.10 | Bradipo | What big room is that? |
| 01:55.17 | fozzmoo | Marriot Salon F |
| 01:55.22 | Bradipo | Oh, I'm on there... |
| 01:55.26 | Bradipo | What are you using? |
| 01:55.28 | fozzmoo | You're on there? |
| 01:55.33 | fozzmoo | What am I using? |
| 01:55.39 | Bradipo | Laptop? |
| 01:55.40 | Bradipo | PDA? |
| 01:55.41 | fozzmoo | I'm using Windows 2000. :) |
| 01:55.46 | fozzmoo | Laptop - Sony VAIO |
| 01:55.46 | Bradipo | Nice. |
| 01:55.54 | fozzmoo | I can't get PCMCIA to work in LInux. |
| 01:55.55 | Bradipo | They have wireless up there? |
| 01:55.59 | fozzmoo | Yep. |
| 01:56.09 | Bradipo | Maybe you should take that up with ole linus... |
| 01:56.58 | fozzmoo | heh heh. Actually- it's Sony's problem, not Linux's. |
| 01:57.56 | Bradipo | Doesn't suprise me. |
| 01:58.06 | Bradipo | I would never buy a Sony VAIO. |
| 01:58.14 | fozzmoo | It cost me $35/ |
| 01:58.22 | Bradipo | Can't pass that up then. |
| 01:58.28 | fozzmoo | rIGHT/ |
| 01:59.33 | fozzmoo | they're giving away some traiing CDs for LPI |
| 01:59.50 | fozzmoo | training, that is. |
| 02:00.01 | Bradipo | Hehe, I was wondering what the missling letter was... |
| 02:00.32 | fozzmoo | Dead air. |
| 02:00.32 | fozzmoo | Who knows what they're doing now. |
| 02:00.39 | fozzmoo | I think that's miguel up there. |
| 02:00.43 | fozzmoo | He looks like he's 15. |
| 02:00.52 | Bradipo | Still eh... |
| 02:01.00 | fozzmoo | How old is he? |
| 02:01.00 | Bradipo | How far back are you? |
| 02:01.05 | fozzmoo | 8 rows or so. |
| 02:01.08 | Bradipo | He might be 15. :-) |
| 02:01.14 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 02:01.20 | Bradipo | When he started I thought he was 14 or so. |
| 02:01.27 | Bradipo | Maybe he's 18 by now, or so. |
| 02:01.31 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 02:02.02 | fozzmoo | Oh great. He's running Ximian. |
| 02:02.02 | Bradipo | Doesn't surprise me. |
| 02:02.24 | fozzmoo | Okay... he was 27 in 2000. |
| 02:02.28 | fozzmoo | HOLY COW/ He's my age! |
| 02:03.07 | Moeser | hmm |
| 02:03.38 | fozzmoo | Moeser? You make it? |
| 02:03.49 | Moeser | naw couldn't put together a ride |
| 02:03.56 | Moeser | still stuck in AF :) |
| 02:04.22 | fozzmoo | Awh... |
| 02:04.30 | fozzmoo | I'll tell you if anything interesting happens. |
| 02:05.21 | Moeser | sounds like a plan :) its too bad there isn't any streaming audio or video coming out of there ;) |
| 02:05.32 | fozzmoo | Jayce is giving away O'Reilly books. |
| 02:05.48 | fozzmoo | There's a guy with a video camera... so maybe there will be something available later. |
| 02:05.59 | Moeser | ahh kewl :) |
| 02:09.05 | fozzmoo | They just askjed us to scoot together. |
| 02:09.24 | fozzmoo | I was so excited to come and chat online with everyone... |
| 02:09.29 | fozzmoo | and nobody else is wifi'in. |
| 02:09.34 | Moeser | hehehe |
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| 02:09.56 | Moeser | and they proclaim to be self respecting geeks, pshaw! ;) |
| 02:12.19 | fozzmoo | And they have introduced Miguel |
| 02:12.27 | fozzmoo | He's clippin his mic on. |
| 02:13.55 | fozzmoo | He' |
| 02:14.04 | fozzmoo | he joked that it was his plan along for Ximian to be acquired by Novell. |
| 02:14.15 | fozzmoo | ha ha ha ha |
| 02:15.01 | fozzmoo | He says one of their goals was making it easy for Windows developers to migrate to Linux. |
| 02:15.17 | fozzmoo | All those millions of VB programmers... what are they going to do. |
| 02:16.56 | fozzmoo | Novell is |
| 02:17.10 | fozzmoo | "a very large company betting its bsiness on Linux and Open Office." |
| 02:19.31 | fozzmoo | Anyone still awake? :) |
| 02:19.51 | Moeser | yep :) |
| 02:21.49 | fozzmoo | He's talking about the motivations behind Mono. |
| 02:22.26 | Moeser | hmm, i'm not familiar with mono |
| 02:22.37 | fozzmoo | Mono is the open source implementation of .net |
| 02:39.36 | fozzmoo | "I love the support of the Linux community... but we want GNOME to be easy to use by humans." |
| 02:39.56 | Moeser | ouch |
| 02:40.02 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 02:40.17 | Moeser | i guess the linux community doesn't include humans anymore? ;) |
| 02:40.31 | fozzmoo | That's kind of his point. Linux users have evolved to superhuman status. :) |
| 02:40.36 | Moeser | hahaha |
| 02:40.51 | fozzmoo | Or maybe humans have devolved into something less than what they were before... thanks to Micrfosoft, perhaps? |
| 02:43.38 | fozzmoo | A guy just asked about the legal liabilities of Mono... |
| 02:43.49 | fozzmoo | Could Microsoft sue, basically. |
| 02:43.57 | fozzmoo | Miguel says Novell's legal people have reviewed evrtuhing. |
| 02:44.00 | fozzmoo | everything, that is. |
| 02:44.53 | fozzmoo | Now he's kind of waffling- declining to talk about patents. |
| 02:46.13 | Moeser | hmm thats no good, he has some software patents he'd rather not get ridiculed about? |
| 02:46.37 | fozzmoo | Nah- he's rtefering to Microsoft's potential legal action based on patent infringement becaus eo fMono and .NET |
| 02:46.50 | Moeser | ahh, that makes sense |
| 02:47.03 | fozzmoo | He says Microsoft isn't sure what they have patents on. :) |
| 02:47.51 | fozzmoo | My laptop is getting hot. :) |
| 02:50.16 | fozzmoo | He's showing how to program in C#in MonoDevelop. |
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| 02:52.10 | fozzmoo | Greetings. |
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