| 00:01.20 | Hanuman | emcnabb: I own 3 of those 25 |
| 00:01.44 | Hanuman | it actually is 26 if you include 8-ball |
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| 00:04.33 | Hanuman | PLUG list has been slow today - everyone must have just moved in here |
| 00:05.11 | sjansen | Hanuman: Just trying to make sure you don't get lonely? |
| 00:05.24 | Hanuman | yeah |
| 00:06.17 | Hanuman | actually, I just want to make sure noone makes fun of me for my mistake about using Windows over Linux |
| 00:09.11 | sjansen | You use Windows? |
| 00:12.02 | jsmith | Friends don't let friends use Windows?!? |
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| 00:20.51 | jsmith | Ding, Dong, the Witch is dead! |
| 00:21.07 | jakea | Witch == McBride? |
| 00:27.03 | Hanuman_ | ^sue McBride |
| 00:27.10 | Hanuman_ | ack! my nicks! |
| 00:27.29 | Hanuman_ | oh well - they'll fix themselves |
| 00:28.05 | Hanuman_ | !pepsi |
| 00:28.23 | jakea | hmmm |
| 00:28.27 | jakea | !coke |
| 00:28.41 | jakea | I like this bot |
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| 00:35.08 | HarleyPig | !pepsi |
| 00:35.23 | HarleyPig | Too bad they don't have a Star Trek Pepsi |
| 00:35.31 | HarleyPig | !Star Trek Pepsi |
| 00:35.37 | HarleyPig | W00T! |
| 00:36.24 | HarleyPig | !a geeks dream computer! |
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| 00:38.13 | sjansen | Well now, that took longer than it should have. But I've got a working Postgresql DS. |
| 00:38.42 | Hanuman_ | HarleyPig: you should msg \usr\bin1perl sometime - he makes for great conversation |
| 00:38.51 | emcnabb | does anyone have any guess as to when 2.6-test10 will be out? |
| 00:39.15 | jsmith | I have a lousy guess.... maybe in a week? or three? |
| 00:39.31 | sjansen | You mean the 2.6-blame-Thayne release? |
| 00:39.42 | emcnabb | man, there are some bugs I hope get fixed... |
| 00:39.56 | jsmith | emcnabb: What are you seeing? |
| 00:40.45 | emcnabb | acpi bugs, a wireless bug |
| 00:40.55 | emcnabb | there are some other minor things |
| 00:42.38 | jsmith | emcnabb: More ACPI bugs... argh! |
| 00:43.01 | emcnabb | right now on sony vaio laptops, if you unplug the power cable it kernel panics |
| 00:43.16 | emcnabb | atleast mine and RyanE's |
| 00:43.18 | jsmith | emcnabb: Ouch... now that sucks! |
| 00:43.22 | emcnabb | oh yeah |
| 00:43.32 | emcnabb | overall it's a lot more stable than test 8 for me |
| 00:43.39 | emcnabb | besides that :-) |
| 00:43.43 | jsmith | emcnabb: Cool... what's the wireless bug? |
| 00:43.53 | emcnabb | my card isn't fully supported |
| 00:43.56 | emcnabb | I submitted a patch |
| 00:44.05 | emcnabb | they just haven't integrated it in |
| 00:44.08 | emcnabb | it's a one liner |
| 00:44.16 | jsmith | emcnabb: Those are the hardest to get accepted! |
| 00:44.24 | emcnabb | yeah, but it has been accepted |
| 00:44.35 | emcnabb | the guy just has too much stuff going on |
| 00:44.50 | emcnabb | i.e. if this guy accepts it, Linus will |
| 00:45.15 | jsmith | Cool.. I remember pulling teeth several years ago trying to get a one-liner accepted for a stupid Xircom modem/nic pcmcia combo-card... |
| 00:45.25 | jakea | emcnabb: you donated to the linux kernal, you must work for SCO |
| 00:45.35 | jsmith | I gave up on the card before it ever got accepted... |
| 00:45.39 | jakea | one million and one lines now |
| 00:45.44 | Hanuman | ^sue emcnabb |
| 00:45.46 | emcnabb | it's system V vode |
| 00:45.50 | emcnabb | code |
| 00:46.07 | jakea | it's derivative code, makes no difference |
| 00:46.12 | emcnabb | jakea, how you doing? |
| 00:46.16 | jakea | good good |
| 00:46.23 | jakea | got the laptop back today |
| 00:47.57 | emcnabb | jakea, you must feel complete again |
| 00:48.37 | jakea | ya... I need to DL Mandra-, er I mean an updated version of a flavor a linux so I can just install it, good as time as any |
| 00:50.05 | jakea | I'm getting an itch to try debian |
| 00:50.18 | Jayce^ | stay away from it sjansen.. |
| 00:50.19 | emcnabb | sjansen, you know you want to go back to gentoo |
| 00:50.21 | Jayce^ | be strong |
| 00:50.32 | emcnabb | sjansen, you know you want to be like me |
| 00:50.37 | Tenebram | The gentoo is calling your name... |
| 00:50.39 | emcnabb | sjansen, not like my brother |
| 00:50.45 | jakea | I've heard good about slackware... maybe I'll try that |
| 00:50.48 | Tenebram | All the cool kids use gentoo! |
| 00:50.57 | Jayce^ | sourcemage :) |
| 00:51.14 | emcnabb | jakea, I'm about ready to install Slackware right now on my test machine |
| 00:51.26 | jakea | you'll have to tell me if you like it |
| 00:51.32 | emcnabb | will do |
| 00:51.36 | Tenebram | I used to use slack. |
| 00:51.49 | jakea | That's a "popular distro" that you don't hear too much about on UUG |
| 00:51.50 | Tenebram | It's nice, but Portage is just so convenient. |
| 00:52.16 | emcnabb | nothing beats Portage |
| 00:52.32 | jakea | but it has to be "just right" |
| 00:52.33 | emcnabb | even that wizard distro! |
| 00:52.41 | jakea | oh, porTage, not porage |
| 00:52.46 | emcnabb | jakea, it actually is very flexible |
| 00:52.56 | emcnabb | I've had less problems with portage than anything else I've used |
| 00:53.00 | jakea | cool |
| 00:53.00 | Tenebram | Same here. |
| 00:53.06 | Tenebram | It just works. |
| 00:53.18 | emcnabb | Tenebram, very true |
| 00:53.21 | jakea | I don't recall even registering the name as a distro until just now |
| 00:53.43 | emcnabb | I think apple has the trademark of "Just Works" though |
| 00:53.52 | jakea | true |
| 00:54.15 | jakea | the OS X GUI just puts the windows one to shame |
| 00:54.39 | emcnabb | yeah it does |
| 00:54.48 | jakea | my brother-in-law was showing his is ibook, VERY NICE if you like pretty things that are actually usefull |
| 00:55.15 | Tenebram | Apparently you can get windows to be pretty decent through third-party stuff. |
| 00:55.22 | jakea | course, the windows GUI has not changed much in the past 7 years |
| 00:55.28 | Tenebram | But not close to as nice as OSX |
| 00:55.29 | sjansen | Jayce^: Remind me again why Sourcemage is better? |
| 00:55.32 | jakea | except the new lego XP theme |
| 00:55.51 | Hanuman | lego XP? |
| 00:56.10 | jakea | XP is just windows 2000 with a Lego / Teletubbies theme |
| 00:56.19 | Jayce^ | sjansen, all bash, no python |
| 00:56.50 | sjansen | So? That's not enough to counter-balance the larger community for gentoo. |
| 00:56.57 | Jayce^ | sjansen, more fun :) |
| 00:57.23 | Tenebram | It gets rid of air pollution. |
| 00:57.23 | sjansen | How is configuration handled? |
| 00:57.47 | Jayce^ | configuration, as in how do you pick the different config options? |
| 00:58.36 | sjansen | Optional dependencies. Also, how does it handle removal of packages? |
| 00:58.50 | Jayce^ | each spell has it's option list, it will pick up optional things (like ssl, or whatever)... or ask if you want to include it.. |
| 00:59.02 | Jayce^ | removal works great |
| 00:59.15 | Jayce^ | dispel <name> |
| 01:00.19 | sjansen | Does it notice when non-essential packages are no longer needed? Ie, install x which requires y, remove x and be informed that y was never specifically requested and isn't needed by anything anymore. |
| 01:00.31 | sjansen | Removal on gentoo at least used to be a mess. |
| 01:00.32 | Jayce^ | http://wiki.sourcemage.org/ |
| 01:00.37 | sjansen | :-P |
| 01:00.47 | Tenebram | how does gentoo handle that now? |
| 01:00.50 | Jayce^ | sjansen, there are some options for how you want it to handle that kind of stuff |
| 01:02.55 | sjansen | Oh, this is too sweet: |
| 01:03.46 | sjansen | <p>FrontPage 2003 has built-in professional coding tools that help you produce <b>clean code</b> faster. That's right. We said FrontPage.</p> |
| 01:04.00 | Jayce^ | uh |
| 01:04.16 | sjansen | Love the old fashioned, non-semantic use of markup. |
| 01:05.04 | sjansen | (And if I were feeling snippy, the inaccessible use of text in an image without any alt text.) |
| 01:09.05 | Hanuman | sjansen: be snippy - I agree with you |
| 01:10.23 | Hanuman | jakea: XP must use legos with holes in them because it's much more buggy than Win2k |
| 01:10.33 | Hanuman | ^sue sjansen |
| 01:10.53 | Hanuman | I really need to randomize that and put some more snippy remarks in there |
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| 01:22.45 | hans | any uug members, please add your gpg fingerprints on the uug website |
| 01:28.25 | emcnabb | hans, done |
| 01:28.28 | hans | cool |
| 01:29.58 | jakea | I need to try again to get gpg working... |
| 01:30.10 | jakea | kmail seems to be a pain getting it working right |
| 01:31.33 | emcnabb | hans, andrew just added his |
| 01:32.14 | hans | have you signed his key? |
| 01:32.20 | emcnabb | I think so |
| 01:32.25 | emcnabb | maybe not though |
| 01:32.45 | emcnabb | later all |
| 01:37.22 | Jayce^ | jakea, you run mdk right? |
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| 01:52.26 | torriem | ibot what is the news? |
| 01:52.27 | | I think you lost me on that one, torriem |
| 01:52.32 | torriem | ibot, news |
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| 02:33.15 | jakea | Jayce^ : yes, I run Mandrake |
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| 02:48.47 | Tenebram | 'lo |
| 02:55.31 | Jayce^ | jakea, urpmi -y agypten , if you have contrib or something, it should come up with a kmail package that'll do the pgp stuff.. |
| 02:55.37 | Jayce^ | makes it easy |
| 02:55.51 | Jayce^ | how goes the uug meeting? |
| 02:56.30 | Tenebram | I decided my bed was too comfortable to justify leaving my dorm. |
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| 03:04.40 | Hanuman | ^sue the UUG meeting |
| 03:04.55 | Hanuman | ack - need to fix that |
| 03:04.59 | Hanuman | ^sue UUG |
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| 07:37.57 | resplin | Anybody know how to give news to the ibot to report when people ask him for news? |
| 07:38.25 | Tenebram | no idea |
| 07:38.38 | resplin | Oh, it's the news set command. |
| 07:38.56 | resplin | ibot news set "We hope that it snows today." |
| 07:39.10 | resplin | Darn, didn't work. |
| 07:40.38 | resplin | Oh, news add is how you do it. |
| 07:40.41 | resplin | ibot nows |
| 07:40.42 | | resplin: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 07:40.45 | resplin | ibot news |
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| 08:26.55 | Bradipo | I have quit eh? |
| 08:27.16 | Tenebram | You sure have! |
| 08:27.22 | Tenebram | You quitter... |
| 08:27.32 | Bradipo | Heh, good it's working. |
| 08:27.38 | Tenebram | just giving up like that... |
| 08:27.40 | Bradipo | Wasn't sure if I had quit or not. |
| 08:27.42 | Tenebram | I'm disappointed in you! |
| 08:28.03 | Bradipo | Goofy IRC. |
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| 14:12.40 | Hanuman | --. --- --- -.. -- --- .-. -. .. -. --. |
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| 14:18.58 | Hanuman | action test |
| 14:19.43 | Hanuman | action hans is cool |
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| 16:41.45 | edo^ | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20031121&mode=classic |
| 16:42.38 | Jayce^ | oh yeah |
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| 17:04.11 | edo^ | Any experience or recommendations for a distributed system management? ISPMan and TuxBox ISPWorks look interesting. |
| 17:13.59 | hans | although at this time of year I think a pavo shirt is more appropriate |
| 17:14.10 | hans | ~x es en pollo |
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| 17:16.44 | hans | emcnabb: http://10.7.96.35/gpg/fingerprint_strips.php |
| 17:17.15 | hans | off-campus people: s/10.7.96.35/falcon.fugal.net/ |
| 17:18.27 | emcnabb | very cool! |
| 17:19.33 | emcnabb | hans, the letter is in the mail |
| 17:19.42 | hans | great |
| 17:24.24 | bonez39 | pollo? a chicken shirt? |
| 17:25.28 | hans | mentioned on the uug list (talking about getting t-shirts and possibly polo shirts) |
| 17:26.44 | Bradipo | Yeah, don't you know about those chicken shirts? |
| 17:27.02 | Bradipo | Akin to the anti-sco shirts I have heard about I imagine. ;-) |
| 17:36.36 | brailsmt | is the chicken fried? It might feel gross... |
| 17:40.56 | bonez39 | Hans..how the snow there? coming down much? here it's falling more now |
| 17:42.47 | hans | it's.. notable |
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| 18:44.25 | Hanuman | it's 65 or so degrees over here - very nice |
| 18:44.38 | Hanuman | sun's shining, birds chirping |
| 18:44.57 | Hanuman | ^sue the chicken shirts |
| 18:45.11 | Hanuman | why do I keep forgetting my parsing is wrong? |
| 19:02.36 | hans | ~lart dia |
| 19:03.04 | hans | my diagram looks great until I go to export it to an image and all of a sudden all the text is size 0.80 |
| 19:07.14 | Hanuman | I always have problems getting it to pring right |
| 19:07.20 | Hanuman | s/pring/print/ |
| 19:08.12 | tensai | I didn't like dia until I figured out how to specify how many pages the diagram should span |
| 19:08.19 | tensai | now it works like a champ |
| 19:08.58 | hans | yeah, that's a must-do. |
| 19:10.41 | tensai | I also like using OO.org Draw |
| 19:12.35 | Hanuman | http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/21/1420242&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=110&tid=126&tid=163&tid=185&tid=187 |
| 19:12.41 | Hanuman | Great interview... |
| 19:15.49 | Hanuman | RH CEO: "I have not used proprietary software for many years. I run a 5 node Linux cluster at home. I use Gnome." |
| 19:16.00 | Hanuman | That's a cool CEO |
| 19:29.17 | Jayce^ | so you guys are only updating the web for those people with accounts on the website.. |
| 19:29.19 | Jayce^ | sheesh |
| 19:31.23 | sjansen | huh? |
| 19:33.44 | Jayce^ | looking at the web of trust page that hans is building, it's only using the keys on the website.. |
| 19:36.10 | Jayce^ | sjansen, did you create a new key just for uug? |
| 19:44.07 | Jayce^ | edo^, have we looked yet at actually getting a domain for utosc? or deciding if we want to change the possible name at all? |
| 19:45.29 | sjansen | Jayce^: No, I switch from a 1k key to a 4k key. |
| 19:45.51 | Jayce^ | ah.. |
| 19:45.52 | sjansen | If you check my email starting last night, I'm using the new key. |
| 19:46.02 | Jayce^ | yeah, that's why I saw a difference.. |
| 19:46.09 | Jayce^ | so you dump your old one? |
| 19:46.46 | sjansen | Not yet, but I set it to expire Dec. 31 |
| 19:47.10 | Jayce^ | k |
| 19:47.23 | Jayce^ | better bring your fingerprint to plug :) |
| 19:48.28 | sjansen | I will. |
| 19:48.40 | Jayce^ | so, when you sign up for the uug site, is it supposed to email a confirmation or something? |
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| 19:56.55 | emcnabb | hans, can you update the UUG web of trust? |
| 19:57.08 | emcnabb | hans, a bunch of us made changes here |
| 19:57.22 | Jayce^ | created an account, but it won't let me log in.. so mine isnt' in there |
| 19:58.55 | sjansen | Poke emcnabb to approve the account. |
| 19:59.04 | Jayce^ | I'll do more than poke :) |
| 19:59.19 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 19:59.33 | Jayce^ | kick is a kind of poke right? |
| 19:59.34 | Jayce^ | :) |
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| 20:01.19 | emcnabb | sjansen, hold your horses |
| 20:02.14 | sjansen | emcnabb: Jayce^ is the impatient one. I just told him who to sit on. |
| 20:02.24 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 20:03.54 | jsmith | Now that's the funniest thing I've ever seen from a bot |
| 20:18.56 | Hanuman | ^sue sjansen |
| 20:19.04 | Hanuman | sorry - just had to do it after that one |
| 20:19.47 | emcnabb | Jayce^, I don't have your key |
| 20:19.57 | hans | emcnabb: I just approved it |
| 20:19.58 | emcnabb | I'll need to get it |
| 20:20.00 | emcnabb | ok |
| 20:20.00 | hans | web has been updated too |
| 20:23.49 | emcnabb | cool |
| 20:25.33 | emcnabb | Jayce^, you don't trust me? :-( |
| 20:26.16 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, did you make a new key? |
| 20:26.27 | Jayce^ | I know I've signed yours before |
| 20:27.06 | Jayce^ | ok, anybody see anything wierd with this photo? |
| 20:27.09 | Jayce^ | http://halls.infogenix.com/gallery/Hall_Family/Portrait-11-03/jk_03.jpg?width=1024 |
| 20:27.33 | jsmith | Yeah... it's really slow to load?!? |
| 20:27.50 | Jayce^ | hehe.. my upload isn't all that hot :) |
| 20:28.05 | Jayce^ | I'll post the smaller link next.. |
| 20:28.20 | Jayce^ | here's the original (scaled down)... |
| 20:28.25 | Jayce^ | http://halls.infogenix.com/gallery/Hall_Family/Portrait-11-03/originals/DSC02424.JPG |
| 20:28.44 | Hanuman | It will be an SMTP mail gateway |
| 20:28.57 | Hanuman | Just don't tell my bosses yet |
| 20:28.57 | jsmith | Hanuman: What company, can I ask? |
| 20:29.03 | Jayce^ | not the best touch up.. but pretty cool.. |
| 20:29.14 | Hanuman | Children's Wear Digest - http://www.cwdkids.com |
| 20:29.55 | emcnabb | hans, so what do the different colors mean? |
| 20:30.09 | emcnabb | Jayce^, I have the same key |
| 20:30.20 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, strange, I know I've signed it before.. |
| 20:30.27 | Jayce^ | and sent.. |
| 20:30.33 | emcnabb | Jayce^, yeah, I thought you had |
| 20:30.40 | Hanuman | Jayce^: you refused my connection |
| 20:30.50 | jsmith | Jayce^: Both timed out... |
| 20:30.52 | Jayce^ | Hanuman, wha? |
| 20:30.58 | Hanuman | How many connections do you have open on that box? |
| 20:31.03 | Jayce^ | strange.. shouldnt' be getting errors like that.. |
| 20:31.04 | Hanuman | (the original comment was a joke) |
| 20:31.06 | Jayce^ | hardly any |
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| 20:31.13 | Hanuman | "connection refused" |
| 20:31.22 | Hanuman | I think there's just too many people viewing it |
| 20:31.32 | Hanuman | or opening it |
| 20:32.07 | Jayce^ | no, almost no outgoing traffic right now |
| 20:32.20 | Hanuman | weird - wonder why I'm getting that error |
| 20:32.27 | Jayce^ | only 5k/s right now |
| 20:32.36 | Hanuman | Is anyone still trying to download the image right now? |
| 20:32.54 | jsmith | I am... |
| 20:33.11 | Hanuman | If you only allow 1 connection at a time that would explain it |
| 20:33.28 | Hanuman | My browser is just timing out waiting for a chance to connect |
| 20:33.38 | Hanuman | most likely |
| 20:33.54 | levi | I was trying to look at it, but I stopped, since I was making no progress. |
| 20:33.55 | Jayce^ | strange, the index page goes fine, but subdirs seem to time out to external connections |
| 20:34.29 | Jayce^ | no, I allow more than that, though not many |
| 20:34.44 | Jayce^ | seems to be something to do with external connections |
| 20:35.05 | Hanuman | Maybe just connections from us in Virginia |
| 20:35.07 | Hanuman | :-( |
| 20:35.22 | Hanuman | Jayce's server is discriminatory |
| 20:36.24 | Hanuman | At least yours is still downloading - mine just gives up |
| 20:36.36 | Jayce^ | yeah, the home page comes up immediately, but from externals any sub-page just hangs there |
| 20:37.55 | Jayce^ | shouldn't be iptables.. shouldn't be problems with that.. |
| 20:38.00 | Hanuman | I'm not even getting to your homepage Jayce^ |
| 20:38.41 | Jayce^ | I see the problem.. something is rewriting to halls.infogenix.com, which isn't working |
| 20:38.56 | Hanuman | bbl - gotta reformat Windows |
| 20:39.09 | hans | emcnabb: the colors indicate balance between signing and being signed |
| 20:39.35 | neybar_work | can anyone recommend a good postgres book |
| 20:40.02 | neybar_work | by title... |
| 20:40.11 | hans | picky picky ;) |
| 20:40.18 | neybar_work | ~whaleslap hans |
| 20:40.26 | | ACTION slaps hans upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 20:40.32 | brailsmt_work | ^sue hans |
| 20:40.35 | brailsmt_work | ;) |
| 20:40.42 | Jayce^ | http://halls.lug-nut.com/gallery/Hall_Family/Portrait-11-03/jk_03.jpg?width=1024 |
| 20:40.52 | Jayce^ | http://halls.lug-nut.com/gallery/Hall_Family/Portrait-11-03/originals/DSC02424.JPG |
| 20:40.56 | brailsmt_work | ^sue SCOBot |
| 20:40.58 | Jayce^ | k, those should work fine |
| 20:41.05 | Jayce^ | stupid address rewrite.. |
| 20:41.17 | brailsmt_work | hrmm... should be a little intelligence so SCOBot doesn't sue itself.. |
| 20:41.42 | Jayce^ | anybody have trouble with those? |
| 20:41.55 | jsmith | Jayce^: That one worked... |
| 20:42.12 | jsmith | Jayce^: Nice photo editing, but the second quakey looks just exactly like the first! |
| 20:42.26 | Jayce^ | quakey ? |
| 20:42.27 | jsmith | I spotted it as a fake almost immediately... |
| 20:42.32 | Jayce^ | oh, the tree. |
| 20:42.33 | Jayce^ | right.. |
| 20:42.36 | jsmith | Tree with white bark |
| 20:42.44 | Jayce^ | was in a hurry, but still |
| 20:42.54 | Jayce^ | the height of it throws most people off.. |
| 20:43.07 | Jayce^ | the back tree is what I was most afraid of people catching |
| 20:43.13 | Jayce^ | looks good on a print though |
| 20:43.13 | jsmith | Yeah, maybe so... |
| 20:43.18 | jsmith | I'll bet... |
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| 20:44.39 | Jayce^ | that always helps |
| 20:46.45 | emcnabb | hans, can you do another update? |
| 20:47.54 | Jayce^ | hans, you ever try that 3d render they can do using the same dot stuff? |
| 20:49.46 | hans | Jayce^: no |
| 20:49.51 | hans | that would be fun |
| 20:50.24 | *** part/#utah tomeast (~teastmond@63-253-57-90.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 20:52.53 | Jayce^ | hans, takes some serious processing/memory power... but looks really cool |
| 20:54.28 | *** part/#utah habib (~steve@tcb107.ras.itlnet.net) |
| 20:55.05 | Jayce^ | look at the two pictures... |
| 20:55.11 | Jayce^ | the second is the original |
| 20:55.17 | sjansen | Oh, now I get it. |
| 20:56.19 | sjansen | I guess I can understand now how jsmith spotted it. |
| 20:56.39 | Jayce^ | yeah, it's not the best job, had very little time.. |
| 20:56.48 | Jayce^ | but it was sufficient |
| 20:56.51 | jsmith | It's still a very nice picture though... nice composition |
| 20:57.40 | Jayce^ | brother has a nice camera.. |
| 20:58.08 | Jayce^ | definately the cheaper/nicer way to take family photos |
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| 21:03.00 | emcnabb | hans, I showed the web of trust to prof seamons |
| 21:13.40 | sjansen | Did you ask for extra credit for everyone in the web? |
| 21:20.49 | sjansen | We're actually trying to improve the current situation and prevent future problems. That feels good. |
| 21:25.40 | hans | emcnabb: what said he? |
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| 21:36.46 | emcnabb | hans, he thought is was cool |
| 21:36.56 | emcnabb | maybe he'll show it today in class :-) |
| 21:37.11 | emcnabb | sjansen, we need to have a #utah effort to get you married |
| 21:37.39 | Bradipo | Jayce^: what kind of a camera is it? |
| 21:40.38 | hans | ibot, flirt with emcnabb |
| 21:40.40 | | hans: wish i knew |
| 21:41.16 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap hans |
| 21:41.24 | | ACTION slaps hans upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
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| 21:46.37 | emcnabb | anyone have any friends they could hook sjansen up with? |
| 21:47.40 | Bradipo | Of the femminine discipline? |
| 21:47.54 | emcnabb | yes |
| 21:48.11 | |NV|S | lol |
| 21:48.48 | Jayce^ | Bradipo, my brothers is a sony, 5 mp |
| 21:48.52 | Jayce^ | 5.something |
| 21:49.22 | Jayce^ | not just sjansen, but some poor girl for emcnabb |
| 21:49.32 | emcnabb | no, I'm fine being single |
| 21:49.35 | emcnabb | no girls like me |
| 21:49.48 | |NV|S | Chicks dig geeks |
| 21:49.59 | |NV|S | well.....rich ones anyway |
| 21:49.59 | Jayce^ | mine does :) |
| 21:50.01 | emcnabb | |NV|S, tell that to sjansen |
| 21:51.15 | emcnabb | later all |
| 21:53.02 | hans | any infocom game lovers here? |
| 21:54.41 | levi | Used to play them. |
| 21:55.11 | levi | I think Beyond Zork was my last regular one. Quarterstaff (which I think was Mac-only) was after that, but it was rather different. |
| 21:55.33 | levi | I don't think I ever finished Beyond Zork, but I did finish Quarterstaff. |
| 21:55.55 | hans | levi: what was your favorite? |
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| 21:57.31 | hans | you know, I bet it wouldn't be too hard to write an irc text adventure bot - sort of a collaborative text adventure |
| 21:57.37 | |NV|S | I never got in the RPG stuff |
| 21:57.38 | levi | The only one I ever finished was Quarterstaff, which was cool. I just wasn't terribly patient with them. |
| 21:58.00 | hans | trinity is the only one i've really finished. started zork a million times but haven't ever gotten into it |
| 21:58.06 | hans | but I like them. |
| 21:58.10 | Jayce^ | you are standing next to a mailbox ... :) |
| 21:58.15 | |NV|S | Im a Rip and Run FPS junkie.......well that and Flightsim |
| 21:58.36 | |NV|S | doesnt HURT that I catually Design games :) |
| 21:58.46 | |NV|S | *actually |
| 21:59.54 | |NV|S | Yeah they always seemed rather cheesy to me. But I could see where EVERQUEST could be as addicting as it is |
| 22:00.19 | |NV|S | of EVERCRACK as its called by the hard-core players |
| 22:01.31 | *** part/#utah tomeast (~TEastmond@63-253-57-90.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 22:01.38 | hans | "it's the newspaper that came in your game package" DOH! |
| 22:02.02 | hans | I might have the booklet that came with the CD somewhere at home, but not here and now. :( |
| 22:02.04 | levi | Quarterstaff was cool because it tried to be kind of like a tabletop RPG. |
| 22:02.39 | levi | There were also a lot of pictures of things and sounds. |
| 22:03.12 | levi | And the NPCs had a bit of intelligence to them. You could try to win them over and get them to join your party. |
| 22:03.31 | levi | And it automapped. |
| 22:03.52 | levi | Plus it had a good story. |
| 22:14.45 | brailsmt_work | sjansen has not been bitten by the nethack bug? |
| 22:15.02 | Jayce^ | mmmm... nethack |
| 22:15.29 | Jayce^ | ouch |
| 22:15.49 | brailsmt_work | there is a reason I don't have any video game consoles |
| 22:15.55 | sjansen | Star Craft held my attention for a day. Tetris will always have a warm place in my heart. Pipe Dreams was one of my favorite games ever. |
| 22:16.21 | brailsmt_work | starcraft was awesome... |
| 22:16.30 | Jayce^ | just played call to duty.. gotta see if that one works in wine |
| 22:16.31 | brailsmt_work | i played it waaaaaaay too much though |
| 22:16.38 | brailsmt_work | i got really really good though |
| 22:17.07 | brailsmt_work | i beat the season 2 champion 1v1 |
| 22:17.15 | brailsmt_work | a few times actually |
| 22:17.27 | Jayce^ | yeah, starcraft was great.. |
| 22:17.57 | brailsmt_work | but my life was starcraft, eat, nap, starcraft, eat, starcraft, ad infinitum |
| 22:17.57 | jsmith | My all-time favorite is still Unreal Tournament though... |
| 22:18.39 | Jayce^ | any game like that is best played over a lan with friends though.. makes all the difference |
| 22:20.28 | Bradipo | UT was fun online too. |
| 22:20.46 | Jayce^ | Tribes 2 :) great game, and was available on linux |
| 22:20.55 | Bradipo | UT was available on linux. |
| 22:21.05 | Jayce^ | yeah, so is ut 2k3 |
| 22:21.17 | Bradipo | Except 2k3 isn't as fun I don't think. |
| 22:21.25 | Jayce^ | I liked tribes 2 better than the UT's |
| 22:21.34 | jsmith | We have a "Frag Your Boss" day at work every once in a while... |
| 22:21.54 | jsmith | Jayce^: Tribes 2 was sweet, but slow... UT2k4 will have vehicles, etc. like Tribes 2 |
| 22:21.59 | jsmith | Jayce^: I can't wait! |
| 22:22.27 | Jayce^ | wasnt' slow for me... |
| 22:22.45 | Jayce^ | love the 'rabbit' game... basically smear the queer |
| 22:22.52 | jsmith | Yup... it was a blast... |
| 22:23.15 | Jayce^ | good old wolfenstein was fun |
| 22:23.20 | Jayce^ | on linux of course.. |
| 22:23.32 | Jayce^ | and the enemy territory add-on I really liked |
| 22:23.40 | neybar_work | ut2k3 was a let down IMHO |
| 22:23.55 | |NV|S | ever play URBAN TERROR? |
| 22:24.13 | |NV|S | its a Quake3 mod |
| 22:24.34 | neybar_work | I don't regret buying it though, I am glad that epic is releasing linux binaries on the retail cd's |
| 22:25.03 | Jayce^ | after last week, I can say Halo on the pc is a big letdown |
| 22:25.50 | sjansen | Six hours of sleep a night just isn't enough. |
| 22:25.59 | Jayce^ | wow, you get six? |
| 22:26.21 | Jayce^ | sjansen, you just need to try dating first :) |
| 22:26.39 | neybar_work | ~whaleslap Jayce^ |
| 22:26.42 | | ACTION slaps Jayce^ upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 22:26.43 | neybar_work | that's for you sjansen |
| 22:26.52 | neybar_work | :-D |
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| 22:38.02 | sjansen | It hurts because it's true. |
| 22:38.53 | sjansen | 'Course when I missed a Plug meeting because of a female, Jayce^ questioned my priorities. |
| 22:39.20 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 22:39.34 | Jayce^ | byron brought his gf (at the time) to meetings |
| 22:43.23 | sjansen | And she claimed allegiance to a distro at last night's meeting. |
| 22:46.32 | Jayce^ | oh really? |
| 22:46.44 | Jayce^ | knowing byron, she must be using gentoo 'eh? |
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| 22:52.17 | brailsmt_work | if she is smart she does ;) |
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| 22:58.02 | hans | http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aa3d/ |
| 22:59.22 | Bradipo | That's cool. |
| 23:00.01 | Bradipo | I wonder what is driving this? Better ascii pr0n? |
| 23:00.06 | Jayce^ | I can never see that 3d art.. and this seems no different |
| 23:00.12 | Bradipo | I can. |
| 23:00.17 | Bradipo | It says A A 3 D |
| 23:00.48 | Bradipo | I think I'll use this in a spam blocking tool. |
| 23:00.48 | Jayce^ | I've never been able to see this stuff |
| 23:01.05 | Jayce^ | guess I'll never email Bradipo :) |
| 23:01.08 | Bradipo | When folks send me an email I'll require them to read my stereogram. |
| 23:01.10 | jsmith | But doing it in Ascii-art is just a little too much |
| 23:01.43 | Bradipo | Jayce^: Have you never been able to put your index fingers close together and see a sausage inbetween? |
| 23:01.59 | Bradipo | I find it almost easier with ascii than simple dots. |
| 23:02.01 | Jayce^ | yes, I can do that.. but doing that stuff has never worked on the pictures.. |
| 23:02.09 | Bradipo | Jayce^: It's the same concept. |
| 23:02.17 | Jayce^ | yeah, I know.. just doesn't work for me.. |
| 23:02.21 | Bradipo | It does work on the pictures. |
| 23:02.32 | Bradipo | Draw two fingers above the image slighly spaced. |
| 23:02.39 | Bradipo | And see if you can't get it to work that way. |
| 23:03.05 | Bradipo | Most people try harder than it really is. |
| 23:03.31 | Jayce^ | I had a friend who would see them immediately, and I'd never see a thing |
| 23:04.22 | Bradipo | You must clear your mind young jedi... |
| 23:04.35 | Jayce^ | hehe.. believe me, I've tried maaany times |
| 23:06.20 | Bradipo | What's even more cool is extending the object by crossing over multiple times. |
| 23:07.12 | Bradipo | I don't know how to explain it either. |
| 23:07.31 | Bradipo | But basically you allow your focus to go beyond the initial object that appears. |
| 23:07.47 | Bradipo | Suddenly the object begins to overlap itself and you see new objects appear. |
| 23:08.40 | Bradipo | What would be cool is a program that would create a stereograph that isn't viewable on the first level, but must go to the next to piece it all together. |
| 23:09.14 | Bradipo | Anyone here even relate to what I'm talking about? |
| 23:12.44 | jsmith | Yes, I can totally relate... |
| 23:13.21 | Bradipo | Maybe I just need to scatter the initial 3d pattern and the sterogram will work itself out. |
| 23:16.23 | Bradipo | hehe. |
| 23:27.27 | neybar_work | how do you kick some one off a machine? |
| 23:28.06 | neybar_work | some one is sshed in to one of our boxes and we don't want him there... |
| 23:29.52 | Bradipo | kill his sshd |
| 23:30.03 | Bradipo | If you are running sshd with privsep it is very easy to see. |
| 23:30.11 | Bradipo | Then disable his account. |
| 23:31.31 | neybar_work | ok, that's what I did. just wondering if there was a more elegant way. |
| 23:32.08 | Jayce^ | dealing with ex employees still? |
| 23:32.33 | Bradipo | Maybe ``write'' to him. |
| 23:33.25 | jsmith | Oooh... that's fun... |
