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| 00:13.18 | Hanuman | sweet - I have my eliza and hans's eliza talking to each other |
| 00:14.03 | Hanuman | this is hilarious - wish hans was watching |
| 00:15.59 | Hanuman | ibot and eliza are now chatting |
| 00:16.01 | | Hanuman: okay |
| 00:16.12 | Hanuman | ~eliza |
| 00:16.14 | | ACTION is a chatterbot |
| 00:16.26 | Hanuman | doh - wrong training |
| 00:16.48 | Hanuman | ~eliza |
| 00:16.50 | | rumour has it, eliza is a chatterbot |
| 00:19.43 | Hanuman | eliza is <action> is in love with eliza |
| 00:20.01 | Hanuman | ibot, eliza is <action> is in love with eliza |
| 00:20.03 | | ...but eliza is already something else... |
| 00:20.18 | Hanuman | ibot, no, eliza is <action> is in love with eliza |
| 00:20.21 | | okay, Hanuman |
| 00:20.25 | Hanuman | ~eliza |
| 00:20.29 | | ACTION is in love with eliza |
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| 00:26.59 | Hanuman | ibot, ibot is eliza's boyfriend |
| 00:27.00 | | ...but ibot is already something else... |
| 00:27.07 | Hanuman | ibot, ibot is also eliza's boyfriend |
| 00:27.09 | | Hanuman: okay |
| 00:27.14 | Hanuman | ~ibot |
| 00:27.16 | | [ibot] a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. eliza's boyfriend |
| 00:48.37 | Hanuman | t-minus almost 4 hours and counting |
| 00:49.51 | Hanuman | almost 6 hours for you guys - haha! |
| 00:50.07 | Hanuman | I'll watch it for you and let you know how it went |
| 00:51.03 | Bradipo | 4 hours? |
| 00:51.08 | Bradipo | Which stores is it going to hit? |
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| 01:06.53 | jakea | emcnabb: Well, I got ya beat, they only wanted 427 bucks to fix my laptop |
| 01:08.33 | Hanuman | Bradipo: I know Wal-mart |
| 01:14.36 | Hanuman | Won't Circuit City or Best Buy beat any advertised offer by a certain percentage? |
| 01:16.45 | jakea | I think it's Circuit City |
| 01:16.47 | emcnabb | jakea, that stinks |
| 01:16.52 | Hanuman | cool |
| 01:17.23 | jakea | emcnabb: Ya, but I can't afford a new one. All these 600 Dells are stripped of anything useful |
| 01:17.51 | jakea | and anything used it taking a chance something will die |
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| 01:29.36 | Hanuman | cool - $22 at Circuit City w/ their price-match guarantee |
| 01:52.04 | Bradipo | Is Wal-Mart open 24/7 |
| 01:52.49 | emcnabb | Bradipo, yeah |
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| 01:55.58 | brailsmt | i got suckered into preordering at blockbuster... (wife played a role...) :( |
| 01:56.14 | brailsmt | so I have to wait until 10:00 AM tommorrow... |
| 01:56.36 | brailsmt | the tight wads won't give it to me if I go to the store and hang out until after 12:00... |
| 01:57.14 | brailsmt | $22 at circuit city to TT? |
| 01:57.19 | brailsmt | s/to/for |
| 01:58.10 | brailsmt | blockbuster pricematches :) |
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| 02:01.24 | Hanuman | Bradipo: Costco is selling for about $24 |
| 02:01.53 | Hanuman | Circuit city gives 10% off of that, so if you buy it at CC, you get it for around $22 |
| 02:03.21 | brailsmt | $24 aint bad when expecting to spend 30-40 |
| 02:08.08 | jakea | Question: Has anyone ever done any online shopping at overstock.com? |
| 02:10.13 | Jayce^ | no, but got a friend that is just starting working there |
| 02:10.25 | Jayce^ | they are looking at getting some people on the lists :) |
| 02:10.41 | jakea | I've seen some good prices, I just wanted to be sure it was not too good to be true |
| 02:11.08 | jakea | so if I order the X-Files first season on DVD, I won't get a pirated Japanesse version |
| 02:11.30 | Bradipo | Does Costco have it today? |
| 02:11.36 | Jayce^ | tomorrow |
| 02:11.39 | Bradipo | That sucks. |
| 02:11.51 | Bradipo | I went in today and didn't see it. |
| 02:12.18 | Jayce^ | they can't put it out until the 18th.. so midnight is the earlist time |
| 02:13.41 | jakea | is this LotR? |
| 02:13.58 | Jayce^ | of course |
| 02:14.00 | Bradipo | yeah. |
| 02:14.12 | Bradipo | And Costco isn't open until midnight. |
| 02:14.16 | jakea | sorry, I found the second one rather boring |
| 02:14.20 | Bradipo | I suppose I will still get it from Costco if it costs less there. |
| 02:14.28 | jakea | so that is why I have not been paying attention |
| 02:14.32 | Bradipo | The second one was not too bad. |
| 02:14.42 | Bradipo | I think they should have had a little bit more wizardry from Gandalf. |
| 02:14.53 | Jayce^ | $23 at shopko, pick your favorite price matching place to get it at 12 |
| 02:14.57 | Bradipo | As I recall from the books he did cast a few spells there. |
| 02:15.05 | jakea | That, and I hate this... lets release it, make money, then release it again and make more |
| 02:15.19 | Bradipo | My biggest disappointment from the films is that Gandalf doesn't do any cool spells. |
| 02:15.30 | Jayce^ | jakea, the one thing that's ok with this, is there really is a difference between the two releases.. |
| 02:15.38 | jakea | ya, there is... |
| 02:15.40 | Bradipo | Oh, I don't like it either but they know they can take advantage of the fans that collect in this way. |
| 02:16.12 | jakea | ya, more ways to make $$$ |
| 02:16.13 | Jayce^ | this time I didn't buy the regular... just downloaded it... |
| 02:16.19 | jakea | heh |
| 02:16.38 | Jayce^ | didn't feel bad, because I knew that I would buy the more expensive one as soon as it was available :) |
| 02:17.32 | jakea | actally, I take that back, it's Lego Edition |
| 02:17.52 | jakea | with new deleted lines of code now added |
| 02:20.02 | jakea | although, the movies have given me a desire to read the books, and me reading a book that is not published by O'Reilly is a rare occation |
| 02:20.28 | Jayce^ | dang, those books are the reason I like the movies.. |
| 02:20.31 | Jayce^ | despite the cuts :) |
| 02:20.40 | brailsmt | jakea: i bought my jacket at overstock.com 2 years ago |
| 02:21.02 | brailsmt | i am going to start reading the LOTR books to my daughters |
| 02:21.25 | brailsmt | walmart has TT for 22.98 on dvd |
| 02:21.35 | brailsmt | and they sell it at 12:00 AM |
| 02:21.59 | brailsmt | and I am getting my preorder money back from blockbuster since they won't let me get it tonight... |
| 02:22.02 | Jayce^ | going to be there. |
| 02:22.30 | brailsmt | i even said, I want my money back unless you wil give it to me tonight at 12:01 AM, they said "sorry"... then I said "sorry"... :) |
| 02:22.39 | brailsmt | so I will be up late late late tonight... ;) |
| 02:22.48 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 02:23.05 | brailsmt | i hope they restore Faramir back to the hero he is in the books... :) |
| 02:23.23 | Jayce^ | you read about the flashback scene? |
| 02:23.30 | brailsmt | but watch them throw in Tom Bombadil in the 38 minutes they added... ;) |
| 02:23.33 | brailsmt | s/38/48 |
| 02:23.39 | Jayce^ | not in the books, but I think it'll really help those who haven't read the books |
| 02:23.57 | brailsmt | have you read the books? |
| 02:24.22 | Jayce^ | ooooh yeah.. |
| 02:24.24 | brailsmt | lotr is the only fantasy i have ever read... |
| 02:24.40 | brailsmt | i usually avoid that genre... |
| 02:24.51 | brailsmt | anyway, I was really bugged by the protrayal of Faramir in TT |
| 02:25.07 | brailsmt | he is one of the heros dangit |
| 02:25.30 | brailsmt | and it is also bugs me how they protray arathorn as the reluctant king... |
| 02:25.31 | Bradipo | brailsmt: same here. |
| 02:25.38 | Bradipo | LotR is the only fantasy I have read. |
| 02:25.47 | Bradipo | And I didn't like Faramir in TT either. |
| 02:25.53 | Bradipo | He seemed lame. |
| 02:25.55 | brailsmt | and how arathorn doesn't have narsil upon leaving rivendell |
| 02:25.58 | Bradipo | And out of character. |
| 02:26.08 | Bradipo | He didn't? |
| 02:26.09 | brailsmt | those things bugged me |
| 02:26.11 | Bradipo | I thought he did... |
| 02:26.12 | brailsmt | no |
| 02:26.17 | Jayce^ | well, he is reluctant... |
| 02:26.18 | Bradipo | When did he get it? |
| 02:26.29 | brailsmt | no, in the scene on the mountain where boromir has the ring after frodo falls... |
| 02:26.39 | brailsmt | you see that he does *not* have Narsil |
| 02:26.44 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 02:26.44 | brailsmt | and that bugged me... |
| 02:27.01 | Bradipo | I'll have to pay attention. |
| 02:27.03 | brailsmt | but the movie is still good... |
| 02:27.17 | brailsmt | and about as true to the book as you might reasonably expect |
| 02:27.21 | Bradipo | I really didn't like the whole Faramir scene. |
| 02:27.26 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 02:27.48 | brailsmt | me neither... I liked the faramir up until the point that he breaks character from the way Tolkein wrote him |
| 02:28.01 | Bradipo | Actually, Aragorn was reluctant. |
| 02:28.01 | brailsmt | i felt cheated... |
| 02:28.10 | Bradipo | Maybe they didn't do a good job portraying it in the films though. |
| 02:28.22 | brailsmt | really, i don't remember him being so reluctant in the books as portrayed in the movie |
| 02:28.26 | Bradipo | It wasn't reluctant in that way. |
| 02:28.33 | Bradipo | They got the idea right, but did it wrong. |
| 02:28.47 | brailsmt | yeah, i had the same feeling |
| 02:28.53 | brailsmt | they overdid it... |
| 02:28.53 | Bradipo | I have read a lot of LotR lore and stuff. |
| 02:29.10 | Bradipo | Used to play MERP as well. :-) |
| 02:29.19 | Bradipo | But yeah, they did that wrong too. |
| 02:29.21 | brailsmt | when i finish school and have time, I want to silmarillion and other LOTR related stuff |
| 02:29.27 | brailsmt | MERP? |
| 02:29.36 | Bradipo | I read all these before school (i.e. when I was younger). |
| 02:29.39 | brailsmt | i want to read... |
| 02:29.41 | Bradipo | Middle Earth Role Playing |
| 02:29.45 | brailsmt | oh |
| 02:29.49 | Bradipo | It was based on JRR's Middle Earth. |
| 02:29.53 | Bradipo | Pretty fun game. |
| 02:30.04 | Bradipo | Out of print now, so I have a collectors item(s). |
| 02:31.41 | Jayce^ | silm is a tought book though |
| 02:32.02 | brailsmt | tought? taught, or tough? |
| 02:32.22 | brailsmt | or both |
| 02:32.51 | brailsmt | has anyone seen my wallet? :D |
| 02:37.32 | Jayce^ | hehe.. tough |
| 02:57.42 | hans | will walmart pricematch tomorrow? do you need to bring the coupon or anything? |
| 03:02.34 | Hanuman | hans: did you like elizas' conversation with each other? |
| 03:03.02 | Hanuman | Jayce^: if you wait till tomorrow and buy from Circuit City you get 10% off of the $24 Costco price |
| 03:03.11 | Hanuman | or I can get it from Blockbuster in 2 hours |
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| 03:53.50 | LrnChndlr | ok, perl gurus (actually, any CGI-type gurus) help me out again here |
| 03:54.12 | LrnChndlr | can I print a cookie and a type of image/gif at the same time? |
| 03:55.49 | Jayce^ | hans, they will pricematch as long as another place has the price, and some in stock |
| 03:55.50 | LrnChndlr | basically, what i am trying to do is use an img src tag to call a script which will edit/set a cookie and print out an invisible gif in the place where it is in the HTML code |
| 03:56.15 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, that's pretty easy actually.. are you doing cgi perl or mod_perl? |
| 03:56.29 | LrnChndlr | cgi perl |
| 03:56.32 | LrnChndlr | here is what i have |
| 03:56.39 | LrnChndlr | print $ss->header(-cookie=>$testcookie, |
| 03:56.39 | LrnChndlr | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.39 | LrnChndlr | open (FILE, "$invis_graphic_path"); |
| 03:56.39 | LrnChndlr | flock(FILE, 2); |
| 03:56.39 | LrnChndlr | print <FILE>; |
| 03:56.40 | LrnChndlr | flock(FILE, 8); |
| 03:56.42 | LrnChndlr | close (FILE); |
| 03:57.05 | LrnChndlr | for some reason the cookie isn't working |
| 03:57.08 | LrnChndlr | the image shows up |
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| 03:58.26 | LrnChndlr | it just doesnt seem to want to do both the cookie and image at the same time |
| 03:59.10 | LrnChndlr | no wait, there it is |
| 03:59.15 | LrnChndlr | stupid browser cache |
| 03:59.18 | Jayce^ | what is $testcookie? |
| 03:59.19 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 03:59.31 | Jayce^ | I was going to say that looked good... |
| 03:59.44 | Jayce^ | but $testcookie coulda been something wrong |
| 04:00.06 | Jayce^ | also, if it is a session cookie, some browsers won't display that in the cookies |
| 04:00.32 | LrnChndlr | $testcookie = $ss->cookie( -NAME => 'MyTestCookie', |
| 04:00.33 | LrnChndlr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.33 | LrnChndlr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.33 | LrnChndlr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.37 | LrnChndlr | not a session cookie |
| 04:01.07 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 04:01.15 | Jayce^ | should be good. |
| 04:01.27 | Jayce^ | now, if you were using mod_perl :) |
| 04:02.07 | Jayce^ | you could just set a handler as part of a chain, or in an auth phase of apache to do the cookie work, and then let the default handler take care of the content |
| 04:02.29 | Jayce^ | which is just plain spiffy.. and a nicer setup.. |
| 04:02.53 | LrnChndlr | heheh |
| 04:03.05 | LrnChndlr | ok, now i am having a resolution problem |
| 04:03.30 | LrnChndlr | basically, I am reading a cookie that has %20 characters in it |
| 04:03.49 | LrnChndlr | and printing it back out, it has %2520 characters in it |
| 04:04.05 | LrnChndlr | i am assuming %25 is the % sign escaped |
| 04:05.01 | Jayce^ | there are a couple cgi escape/unescape modules.. |
| 04:05.09 | Jayce^ | take your pick, and pass it through that |
| 04:05.16 | Hanuman | amen |
| 04:05.46 | Jayce^ | wow, anyone on sllug read about that OSX exploit? |
| 04:05.56 | Jayce^ | all you need is a usb keyboard, and you can get root |
| 04:06.08 | LrnChndlr | do i need to escape/unescape it when all i want to do is copy it exactly? |
| 04:06.30 | Jayce^ | copy the text you are passing? |
| 04:08.34 | LrnChndlr | OK, i get it from the existing cookie: |
| 04:08.35 | LrnChndlr | $cookie = $ss->raw_cookie('SSMBSuperCookie'); |
| 04:09.06 | LrnChndlr | put it into the VALUE slot for the new cookie: |
| 04:09.08 | LrnChndlr | -VALUE => $cookie, |
| 04:09.25 | LrnChndlr | then print out the new cookie:L |
| 04:09.27 | LrnChndlr | print $ss->header(-cookie=>$testcookie, |
| 04:09.39 | LrnChndlr | and somewhere in there is is getting mangled |
| 04:09.55 | LrnChndlr | if I just print out $cookie then it seems fine |
| 04:10.25 | LrnChndlr | so it must be when it is assigned to the VALUE of the cookie object |
| 04:10.51 | Bradipo | That's lame. |
| 04:10.56 | Bradipo | The OSX exploit. |
| 04:11.08 | Bradipo | I mean, c'mon, who thinks that any system with physical access is secure? |
| 04:11.21 | Bradipo | With BSD all you have to do is type: boot -s |
| 04:11.32 | Bradipo | And the boot prompt takes you into a shell without any authentication. |
| 04:11.48 | Bradipo | Actually, this too works on OSX. :-) |
| 04:12.35 | Bradipo | With OSX, simply hit ctrl-s or something. |
| 04:12.45 | Bradipo | It interrupts the boot process and gives you the familiar BSD boot prompt. |
| 04:12.52 | Bradipo | Then simply type: boot -s (or something similar). |
| 04:19.18 | brailsmt | hans: no, I called them and they said that the price for TT dvd is 22.98... |
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| 04:19.29 | brailsmt | no mention of bringing an ad in or anything... |
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| 04:20.15 | Dlugar | hey all... |
| 04:20.22 | Dlugar | anybody know what to do when fonts get messed up? |
| 04:20.24 | Dlugar | redhat 9. |
| 04:22.23 | Hanuman | this guy's db design is terrible! |
| 04:22.24 | Dlugar | I guess that's a "no". |
| 04:22.35 | Dlugar | Hanuman: it usually is. |
| 04:22.41 | Dlugar | Hanuman: at least from my experience :-P |
| 04:22.45 | Hanuman | not to mention it's coming from SQL Server 7.0 |
| 04:23.14 | Hanuman | :-) |
| 04:23.28 | Dlugar | Do you know of any font configuration tools, |
| 04:23.32 | Dlugar | especially on redhat9? |
| 04:23.36 | Dlugar | I think I've messed up something. |
| 04:23.46 | Hanuman | haven't ever really messed with font configuration |
| 04:24.02 | Hanuman | what are you trying to configure? |
| 04:24.12 | Dlugar | well, my fonts went all wacky one day |
| 04:24.28 | Dlugar | I think started with me trying to install that "profont" font much talked about in this chatroom. |
| 04:24.39 | Dlugar | Now, various programs whine about not having the right font. |
| 04:24.44 | Dlugar | I think the truetype fonts are okay, |
| 04:24.45 | Hanuman | is that the programming font? |
| 04:24.50 | Dlugar | but some other fonts are missing? |
| 04:24.53 | Dlugar | yeah, it is. |
| 04:24.58 | Dlugar | I never got it to work, anyway. |
| 04:25.04 | Hanuman | Are you using gnome, kde, bluetooth? |
| 04:25.11 | Dlugar | Enlightenment. |
| 04:25.22 | Dlugar | But I have gnome and kde installed, so I can use any tools that come with them. |
| 04:25.55 | Hanuman | hmmm...not quite sure - I don't mess with system fonts much |
| 04:26.08 | Dlugar | I'm thinking maybe it's not loading /any/ fonts in that directory now. |
| 04:26.15 | Dlugar | but I don't know how to check that, nor fix it. |
| 04:26.57 | Hanuman | I thought fonts all had to do with the window manager - you could try to uninstall/reinstall enlightenment |
| 04:27.07 | Dlugar | no, fonts are completely separate. |
| 04:27.07 | Hanuman | and it's libraries |
| 04:27.17 | Dlugar | they're all run by the X font server. |
| 04:28.00 | Hanuman | I think some of the window manager provide their own font managers as well, perhaps all run by X font server |
| 04:28.18 | Dlugar | I don't think so? |
| 04:28.21 | Dlugar | What makes you say that? |
| 04:28.31 | Dlugar | I think all the fonts are centrally managed and have nothing to do with the font server. |
| 04:28.46 | Dlugar | No matter which window manager I'm in, I still have the same choice of fonts. |
| 04:29.10 | Hanuman | I don't know then |
| 04:29.37 | Dlugar | oh well. thanks for the attempt, anyways. *sigh* |
| 04:29.39 | Dlugar | I'll see if I can figure it out. |
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| 04:30.13 | Hanuman | do I stay up and get TT or wait and get it cheaper tomorrow? |
| 04:30.34 | Dlugar | TT? |
| 04:30.52 | tensai | Hanuman: at this year's Comdex Bill Gates showed Microsoft's new version of its Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server |
| 04:30.58 | tensai | are you excited about that?!? |
| 04:31.10 | brailsmt | Hanuman: why do you think it'll be cheaper tommorrow? |
| 04:31.10 | Hanuman | brailsmt: yo |
| 04:31.32 | brailsmt | tensai: no, but the script kiddies are |
| 04:31.43 | brailsmt | Hanuman: yo |
| 04:31.49 | tensai | brailsmt: lol |
| 04:32.46 | brailsmt | i find it interesting MS pays bukoo bucks for developers that any pimply 13 year old can hack with ease... |
| 04:33.30 | brailsmt | hrmm... i seemed to leave out the whole notion that these developers create software that the pimply 13 year olds then hack... the 13 year olds don't hack the developers... ;) |
| 04:33.43 | brailsmt | that'd be messy... |
| 04:33.44 | brailsmt | :D |
| 04:34.02 | tensai | makes you wonder what really went on during the one month focus on security |
| 04:34.13 | Hanuman | brailsmt: I can get 10% off the lowest competitor's price at Circuit City tomorrow |
| 04:34.15 | brailsmt | tensai: it is a year long effort... |
| 04:34.31 | brailsmt | and we are in the midst of it... |
| 04:34.33 | Hanuman | I need to disable this hello bot - it doesn't work |
| 04:34.52 | brailsmt | so far the only thing new from Redmond is that they placed a bounty on virus writers... |
| 04:34.59 | tensai | Hanuman: try Ctrl-Alt-Smash |
| 04:35.00 | Hanuman | I'm still trying to get the last version of ISA server to work at my work |
| 04:35.22 | Hanuman | tensai: what's that? |
| 04:35.30 | brailsmt | that is there focus on security, enforcement, not prevention... |
| 04:35.37 | tensai | to disable your hello bot. you've never used the Smash key? :) |
| 04:35.49 | Hanuman | is that next to the any key? |
| 04:36.17 | brailsmt | with $4.32x10^90 sitting in cash reserve you forget about those little ounces of prevention that help so much... |
| 04:36.42 | Hanuman | well, time for bed - I'll get TT tomorrow. Good night guys... |
| 04:36.46 | brailsmt | my smash key has "Stanley" written on it... |
| 04:36.54 | tensai | I remember considering ISA server. We run Win2k Small Business so we had a copy. Boy I'm glad I didn't. |
| 04:36.58 | Hanuman | brailsmt: lol |
| 04:37.03 | tensai | iptables and squid works so much better |
| 04:37.12 | Hanuman | tensai: I keep getting closer and closer to disabling ours |
| 04:37.43 | Hanuman | exactly |
| 04:37.56 | Hanuman | well, good night for real... |
| 04:40.40 | tewk | Anyone got pcmcia working with debian and 2.6.0test9 |
| 04:42.08 | LrnChndlr | Perl in a Nutshell says that if I don't specify a path when setting the cookie, then the current path is used, however it doesn't seem to work that way. If I don't specify a path, / is what is used for the path |
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| 04:51.20 | brailsmt | bah, perl... blechk... |
| 04:51.34 | brailsmt | :D |
| 04:53.18 | LrnChndlr | heheh |
| 04:53.26 | LrnChndlr | i dont necessarily disagree |
| 04:53.37 | LrnChndlr | i just wish it would work like it is documented |
| 04:53.53 | LrnChndlr | (of course O-Reilly isn't necessarily the official Perl documentation ;-) |
| 04:53.54 | brailsmt | LrnChndlr: you might not, but Jayce^ will :) |
| 04:54.08 | Jayce^ | back, with a fresh new bios |
| 04:54.12 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 04:54.27 | brailsmt | Jayce^ thinks perl is the cat's meow |
| 04:54.28 | LrnChndlr | Jayce^: do you know much about the cookie path variable? |
| 04:54.33 | brailsmt | :) |
| 04:54.36 | Jayce^ | brailsmt.. it is :) |
| 04:54.44 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, a bit, what do you need? |
| 04:54.50 | LrnChndlr | Perl in a Nutshell says that if I don't specify a path when setting the cookie, then the current path is used, however it doesn't seem to work that way. If I don't specify a path, / is what is used for the path |
| 04:54.50 | brailsmt | it is more like the cat's hairball |
| 04:54.55 | Jayce^ | unless I have a reason, just set it to "/" |
| 04:54.55 | brailsmt | :D |
| 04:55.48 | Jayce^ | now, you want to know about php, let me introduce you to my dog :) |
| 04:55.54 | LrnChndlr | well, i am basically trying to recreate a cookie that another application has set (so that it wipes it out with my info), however if the path is not the same then it actually creates a different unique cookie |
| 04:55.54 | brailsmt | :D |
| 04:56.04 | Jayce^ | and asp... well, there is a mink farm in lehi I could point too |
| 04:56.23 | brailsmt | and plenty of turkey farms in Moroni |
| 04:56.31 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, yes, that would be the correct thing to do |
| 04:56.34 | brailsmt | not to mention U of U |
| 04:56.38 | brailsmt | touche |
| 04:56.40 | brailsmt | ;) |
| 04:57.04 | LrnChndlr | Jayce^: so i need to set the path yo |
| 04:57.07 | LrnChndlr | to |
| 04:57.09 | LrnChndlr | sheesh |
| 04:57.21 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, only if you want it to work the way you want :) |
| 04:57.35 | Jayce^ | if everything left it default, it would "just work" how you want.. |
| 04:57.45 | Jayce^ | but, something didn't.. so it wont'. |
| 04:58.03 | Jayce^ | like I said though, unless I need to, I just use "/" specifically.. thats' really the best. |
| 04:58.11 | LrnChndlr | to the same as the other path. So for example the path in the cookiei am dup'ing is /cgi-bin/something/ |
| 04:58.44 | LrnChndlr | i can hardcode it, but the docs say if i am running out of /cgi-bin/something/ then i shouldn't have to |
| 04:58.57 | LrnChndlr | but it's not working that way |
| 04:59.43 | Jayce^ | yeah, if you want to overwrite the value of another cookie, you must match ALL the other values.. except the date |
| 05:00.06 | brailsmt | in a matter of about 10 seconds |
| 05:00.24 | Jayce^ | and then, you can't switch from an expiring cookie to session.. |
| 05:00.50 | Jayce^ | ouch.. speed stepping? |
| 05:01.16 | LrnChndlr | i guess i'll have to parse the path from something else |
| 05:01.25 | brailsmt | Jayce^: buggy acpi probably.. |
| 05:01.35 | brailsmt | it is amd, so no speed stepping |
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| 05:01.49 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, sorry, but if it comforts you, that's not a perl issue, but cookies in general :) |
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| 05:02.32 | tewk | Couldn't get get orinoco_cs to work, but wlan wit a quick release hack works great |
| 05:03.36 | LrnChndlr | Jayce^: well, actually it's a CGI.pm issue if the function doesnt work like it's supposed to, but i get what you are saying as far as having to match the cookie data |
| 05:03.59 | Jayce^ | that is working like it's supposed to.. |
| 05:05.49 | tensai | LrnChndlr: you could parse the path out of the HTTP vars. that's not as bad as hard coding it |
| 05:05.54 | LrnChndlr | the $object->cookie function is not working like it says it will as far as the default of the path portion of the cookie on page 384 of Perl in a Nutshell |
| 05:07.36 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, what is it putting as the default in your script? |
| 05:07.43 | LrnChndlr | $path =~ s/\/$//;? |
| 05:08.02 | LrnChndlr | Jayce^: just '/', always '/' |
| 05:08.18 | Jayce^ | and where is the script being run from (url)? |
| 05:09.11 | LrnChndlr | it's actually being run from relative URL in an img src tag |
| 05:09.27 | LrnChndlr | so <img src=cookie.pl> |
| 05:09.46 | Jayce^ | so it's being run from http://example.com/cookie.pl ? |
| 05:10.30 | LrnChndlr | no, that would be relative to the page where the img src tag is displayed, which is http://example.com/cgi-bin/something/cookie.pl |
| 05:10.59 | LrnChndlr | https://www.lorenandmichelle.com/cgi-bin/sc/cookie.pl |
| 05:11.08 | LrnChndlr | if you want to be exact |
| 05:11.32 | Jayce^ | k.. |
| 05:11.33 | Jayce^ | hrmm |
| 05:11.46 | LrnChndlr | sorry, i had the path set to . |
| 05:11.50 | LrnChndlr | just removed the path |
| 05:11.56 | Jayce^ | ahh |
| 05:12.13 | LrnChndlr | but even if it were a problem when it was being called via the raltive path, it still does the same thing when i call it directly by that URL |
| 05:13.04 | Jayce^ | won't be a problem.. the relative path is figured out on the browser.. |
| 05:13.17 | Jayce^ | so the call will always be fully qualified when it comes to the server.. |
| 05:15.52 | LrnChndlr | the CGI object has a couple of methods called path_info and path_translated, what do those do? |
| 05:15.58 | LrnChndlr | it doesn't really say |
| 05:17.45 | Jayce^ | http://search.cpan.org/~lds/CGI.pm-3.00/CGI.pm |
| 05:17.57 | Jayce^ | search for path_info, and it should be the second instance.. |
| 05:19.29 | tensai | I just did a test and it's working as documented for me |
| 05:19.31 | tensai | #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 05:19.31 | tensai | use CGI; |
| 05:19.32 | tensai | $query = CGI->new(); |
| 05:19.32 | tensai | $cookie = $query->cookie(-name=>"name", -value=>"value"); |
| 05:20.10 | tensai | stored in /cgi-bin/foo/test.pl. The path is set to /cgi-bin/foo/test.pl |
| 05:24.07 | LrnChndlr | weird |
| 05:24.16 | LrnChndlr | what browser are you using? |
| 05:25.37 | LrnChndlr | i think i will probably have to take the SCRIPT_NAME variable and strip the filename from the end |
| 05:26.16 | tensai | mozilla firebird |
| 05:27.43 | tensai | running http over telnet nets the same results. it's probably not browser specific |
| 05:36.19 | LrnChndlr | hmm the only way I get the full name including the script is if I use the $query->script_name() function as my cookie path |
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| 05:42.56 | emcnabb | http://www.extremeironing.com/ |
| 05:43.07 | emcnabb | I love first place in the gallery |
| 05:43.56 | emcnabb | http://www.extremeironing.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album19&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php |
| 05:44.00 | Tenebram | my goodness that's bizarre... |
| 05:46.23 | Tenebram | in return, the interesting site I just discovered: http://electricsheep.org/ |
| 05:47.29 | emcnabb | nice |
| 05:48.59 | Tenebram | very nice and pretty |
| 05:49.30 | Tenebram | I saw it running on my friend's computer when I went to wake him up and tell him to get his cs labs done |
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| 11:45.51 | brailsmt | my review of TT extended... |
| 11:45.57 | brailsmt | two thumbs way, way up |
| 14:25.36 | Hanuman | anyone find any cheaper prices than Costco? |
| 14:31.47 | hans | Hanuman: when I imagine it, that's cheaper... |
| 14:36.43 | Hanuman | :-) |
| 14:37.12 | Hanuman | I just want to make sure I find the absolute lowest price before I go to Circuit City today and demand my 10% off of that price |
| 14:37.47 | Hanuman | is that a word? |
| 14:39.12 | Hanuman | hans: did you like the little conversation our Eliza's had with each other? |
| 14:39.30 | hans | cute |
| 14:40.17 | Hanuman | They are quite talkative when they converse with each other |
| 14:40.22 | Hanuman | any other time they are annoying |
| 14:40.59 | Mecworks | So CC will beat a price by 10%? Do you have to bring in an add? |
| 14:41.10 | Hanuman | they say advertised price |
| 14:41.25 | Hanuman | I'm bringing in a printout of Costco's webpage advertising just in case |
| 14:41.35 | Hanuman | ~eliza |
| 14:41.36 | | ACTION is in love with eliza |
| 14:41.37 | Mecworks | cool |
| 14:42.13 | Hanuman | ibot and eliza had a conversation last night, too |
| 14:42.15 | | Hanuman: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 14:42.29 | Hanuman | no, you really did ibot - I saw it |
| 14:42.45 | Hanuman | ~ibot |
| 14:42.46 | | rumour has it, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. eliza's boyfriend |
| 14:45.56 | Mecworks | Hm. Has he forgotten all about barleycorns? |
| 14:46.21 | Hanuman | what about barleycorns? |
| 14:47.31 | Mecworks | ibot's conversion program..."~convert lightyears to inches", "~convert 45watts to ..." |
| 14:48.02 | Mecworks | it knew what a barleycorn was... |
| 14:48.23 | Hanuman | what is a barleycorn? |
| 14:48.56 | Mecworks | Barleycorn \Bar"ley*corn`\, n. [See Corn.] |
| 14:48.56 | Mecworks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.56 | Mecworks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.56 | Mecworks | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.11 | Mecworks | "he Old English word ynce is derived from the Latin uncia, meaning a 1/12 part; thus "inch" and "ounce" actually have the same root. The inch was originally defined in England in two ways: as the length of three barleycorns laid end to end, or as the width of a man's thumb at the base of the nail. The barleycorn definition is peculiarly English, but the thumb-width definition is generic." |
| 14:57.10 | Hanuman | ~convert barleycorn to inches |
| 14:57.21 | Hanuman | ~convert barleycorn to lightyears |
| 14:57.53 | Hanuman | ~barleycorn |
| 14:57.55 | | somebody said barleycorn was It is remembered that the Iron Ulna of our Lord the King contains three feet and no more; and the foot must contain twelve inches, measured by the correct measure of this kind of ulna; that is to say, one thirty-sixth part [of] the said ulna makes one inch, neither more nor less.... It is ordained that three grains of barley, dry and round make an inch, twelve inches make a foot; three feet make an ulna... |
| 14:59.56 | Hanuman | ~lotr |
| 14:59.58 | | methinks lotr is The Lord of the Rings |
| 15:00.04 | Hanuman | ~tt |
| 15:00.08 | | methinks tt is the Atari model with a 32-bit bus and 32-bit CPU |
| 15:00.16 | Hanuman | lol |
| 15:00.45 | Hanuman | ibot, tt is also The Lord of the Rings, Two Towers |
| 15:00.46 | | Hanuman: okay |
| 15:00.50 | Hanuman | ~tt |
| 15:00.52 | | hmm... tt is the Atari model with a 32-bit bus and 32-bit CPU. The Lord of the Rings, Two Towers |
| 15:07.21 | Hanuman | ibot, tt is also Two Towers Extended edition was released on November 18, 2003 |
| 15:07.23 | | okay, Hanuman |
| 15:07.27 | Hanuman | ~tt |
| 15:07.29 | | it has been said that tt is the Atari model with a 32-bit bus and 32-bit CPU. The Lord of the Rings, Two Towers. Two Towers Extended edition was released on November 18, 2003 |
| 15:09.20 | Hanuman | ibot, you keep my sanity during the day |
| 15:09.22 | | Hanuman: i haven't a clue |
| 15:19.35 | Hanuman | Man - there weren't many people defending Utah in the comments on yesterday's /. comments. There were a ton of flames against Utah. |
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| 15:26.28 | Hanuman | and Mormons |
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| 16:59.43 | Hanuman | ibot, you're back! Good to see you |
| 16:59.45 | | Hanuman: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 17:01.10 | Hanuman | hmm...at $45 it's not too bad a deal (collectors edition) |
| 17:03.29 | Hanuman | ~slashdot |
| 17:03.44 | Hanuman | all kinds of apple news lately |
| 17:04.19 | Hanuman | I have a feeling after getting my ibook I will have to save up to get an imac now |
| 17:04.43 | Hanuman | Those things can be bought just for decoration if anything else |
| 17:14.20 | torriem | :) |
| 17:29.07 | Hanuman | I just realized these reply-to threads have become so boring I just tune them out. I just finally realized there was a flame going on on PLUG |
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| 17:41.07 | Hanuman | lol - our local Jewish Community Center will have a Mormon on the front cover of their brochure they're sending out (my wife) |
| 17:47.29 | Hanuman | off to buy my LOTR |
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| 18:38.19 | Hanuman | hans: eliza gave me your message. I'm sure it works, and just to be sure I'll test it tonight. |
| 18:39.27 | Hanuman | Got my collector's edition DVD - I think the Gollum statue is pretty cool |
| 18:39.43 | Hanuman | It was impossible to remove from the box, though |
| 18:52.20 | tomeast | how much? |
| 18:53.58 | Hanuman | it ended up being about $47 before tax |
| 18:54.13 | tomeast | not bad |
| 18:54.41 | Hanuman | yeah - I figured it was worth it considering the normal dvd's aren't much under that if you don't get them on sale |
| 18:55.14 | Hanuman | and the Gollum statue is a nice addition to my office |
| 18:58.57 | HarleyPig | I told my wife I'd hold off on them for now, but that when the 3 movie set came out, there was no way she was gonna hold me back on that one! |
| 19:00.27 | HarleyPig | Anyone know what the internal format for an Excel spreadsheet timestamp is? I've got a number that looks like 37937.7138888889 |
| 19:00.57 | hans | maybe the number of tocks since windows version 3.11 service pack 3? |
| 19:03.23 | HarleyPig | ;] |
| 19:15.33 | hans | lol re: /. "SCO news roundup" |
| 19:15.56 | hans | "Hurry before time runs out again." |
| 19:17.43 | hans | " I don't see how SuSE competes with SCO's core business. As far as I know, SuSE has never sued anyone." |
| 19:18.30 | Hanuman | lol |
| 19:19.13 | Hanuman | my brother-in-law works for a VC Firm in Utah and when approached by SCO they couldn't find any way SCO was making money other than suing people |
| 19:50.12 | HarleyPig | crap for crap |
| 19:50.30 | HarleyPig | Anyone ever converted from ms excel timestamp to mysql timestamp? |
| 19:56.09 | Hanuman | HarleyPig - you might be able to do something with Win32::OLE |
| 19:56.55 | Hanuman | I'm sure there's some sort of date function that you could then convert to unix-style format using Date::Calc or something like that |
| 19:58.00 | HarleyPig | Win32::OLE works on unix? |
| 19:58.32 | HarleyPig | I've been looking ... The problem is, MS Excel is the number of days since 1/1/1900 00:00:00 |
| 19:59.05 | Hanuman | no - using Activeperl on Windows |
| 19:59.08 | HarleyPig | unix epoch is 1/1/1970, and localtime epoch is Wed Dec 31 17:00:00 1969 |
| 19:59.37 | HarleyPig | Hanuman: Can't use OLE, this needs to run on a unix box. |
| 20:00.12 | Hanuman | okay - so you're bringing the excel spreadsheet (I imagine through csv) to Unix and parsing it |
| 20:00.26 | HarleyPig | Nope, parsing the xls spreadsheet directly. |
| 20:00.43 | Hanuman | are there cpan modules that do that? |
| 20:00.53 | HarleyPig | Yeah ... Spreadsheet::ParseExcel |
| 20:01.00 | Hanuman | ah - I kind of remember that |
| 20:01.05 | HarleyPig | (there's one to create one too). |
| 20:02.21 | HarleyPig | So I'm trying to figure out how many seconds are from 1/1/1900 00:00:00 to 12/31/69 17:00:00 |
| 20:02.56 | Hanuman | Have you looked into the Date::Calc functions? |
| 20:03.15 | HarleyPig | Then what I can do is convert the ms number to seconds, subtract that magic number, then just dump it through localtime. Yeah ... you have to know the date first. |
| 20:03.29 | HarleyPig | And it doesn't give. ... wait. |
| 20:03.43 | Hanuman | you can calculate the date if you know the difference |
| 20:03.43 | HarleyPig | That's Date::Convert. I'll look at Date::Calc again. |
| 20:04.33 | Hanuman | I'm pretty sure Date::Calc will have functions to do what you want |
| 20:18.58 | hans | so circuit city will match any price and take off 10%? |
| 20:19.50 | tomeast | I think %10 of the difference but I could be wrong |
| 20:20.20 | HarleyPig | hanuman: thanks ... that got it ... except it calculated exactly 2 days high. |
| 20:20.38 | HarleyPig | But it got me the magic number and I'm happy because my boss is happy. :> |
| 20:29.01 | Hanuman | HarleyPig: that's what matters |
| 20:29.19 | Hanuman | hans: yeah - I was wrong - it's 10% of the *difference* |
| 20:30.34 | hans | so if cc has it for $25 and shopko has it for $23, then cc will give it to me for $23 - 10% of $2 (e.g. $22.80)? |
| 20:35.10 | neybar_work | walmart has it for 22.79 |
| 20:35.18 | neybar_work | save 10 cents |
| 20:35.57 | neybar_work | cc= costco? |
| 20:36.20 | neybar_work | circuit city... nm |
| 20:39.40 | Hanuman | walmart has it for $22.79? When did they start doing that? |
| 20:39.50 | Hanuman | hans: correct |
| 20:40.45 | Hanuman | nm - I was confusing shopko w/ costco |
| 20:40.56 | Hanuman | costco has it cheaper than walmart I believe |
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| 20:41.51 | Hanuman | no - wait - costco is $24.79 |
| 20:42.29 | neybar_work | my wife just picked it up from there, maybe around 12:30? |
| 20:42.34 | Hanuman | is the $22.79 for Walmart in stores only then? The website is saying $24.98 |
| 20:42.48 | neybar_work | might be only in stores |
| 20:42.48 | Hanuman | any idea what price the collectors set is? |
| 20:42.51 | neybar_work | no |
| 20:43.31 | Hanuman | darn - if the collectors set is cheaper than costco I need to get the price matched at circuit city (it's good for 30 days) |
| 21:03.13 | brailsmt | walmart last night had it for 23.98 |
| 21:03.37 | brailsmt | it is really good |
| 21:03.46 | brailsmt | really, really good |
| 21:07.32 | levi | What are the new scenes? |
| 21:08.10 | brailsmt | lots of new scenes... |
| 21:08.17 | brailsmt | starting with the elven rope scene |
| 21:08.40 | brailsmt | fangorn forest moves to kill the orcs after helms deep |
| 21:08.53 | brailsmt | a new Ent draught scene |
| 21:09.09 | brailsmt | extended scenes when gandalf reappears |
| 21:09.32 | brailsmt | extended dialog between wormtongue and saruman |
| 21:09.54 | brailsmt | the whole faramir thing is smoothed over nicely |
| 21:12.58 | brailsmt | in all it is much better than the original theatrical release |
| 21:13.04 | brailsmt | imo, of course |
| 21:15.19 | zzzirk | well hell, now I want to leave work and go straight home and watch mine |
| 21:15.22 | zzzirk | :) |
| 21:16.15 | zzzirk | I'm quite excited to see the changes and see the "whole" movie |
| 21:16.15 | brailsmt | i watched it last night :) |
| 21:16.35 | brailsmt | went to bed at 4:30... |
| 21:16.39 | zzzirk | I was tempted but my wife threatened bodily harm if I did |
| 21:16.42 | brailsmt | running time is 223 minutes |
| 21:16.53 | brailsmt | my wife watched with me... |
| 21:17.13 | brailsmt | well, she tried, she kept dozing off... |
| 21:19.37 | brailsmt | they threw in some of Tom Bombadil's lines... |
| 21:19.50 | brailsmt | treebeard says them |
| 21:26.04 | brailsmt | my wife is convinced that galadriel is the 'she' that gollum refers to at the end of the movie... :) |
| 21:31.36 | levi | Heh heh. |
| 21:35.40 | brailsmt | re: 10% of the difference... The minute someone says that another has it cheaper, they give that person the 10% difference discount, then they match the price at the other store... so unless you are the first one, it won't make any difference |
| 21:37.10 | neybar_work | makes sense |
| 21:39.55 | emcnabb | anyone know when 2.6-test10 is expected to be released? |
| 21:42.20 | brailsmt | is there any doubt sco is on its last desperate leg? |
| 21:43.18 | brailsmt | hiring Mr. Darl "run-it-into-the-ground" McBride was brilliant, absoluteyl brilliant... |
| 21:43.58 | brailsmt | when sco dies, who gets the rights to sys v code? highest bidder? |
| 21:44.32 | emcnabb | did you see how they're trying to nullify the BSD/ATT agreement? |
| 21:44.53 | emcnabb | orge.com/business/03/11/18/1742216.shtml?tid=2&tid=82&tid=85&tid=94 |
| 21:45.00 | emcnabb | http://www.newsforge.com/business/03/11/18/1742216.shtml?tid=2&tid=82&tid=85&tid=94 |
| 21:45.04 | emcnabb | sorry |
| 21:45.12 | brailsmt | no, but I saw how they say novell is violating a non-compete by buying suse |
| 21:45.25 | brailsmt | which link is right? |
| 21:45.30 | brailsmt | nm... |
| 21:46.28 | emcnabb | second one |
| 21:50.50 | brailsmt | of course this is bound to ruffle the feathers of MS and Apple since OSX is basically BSD, and windows has BSD code in it... |
| 21:51.24 | brailsmt | this is just laughable... |
| 21:52.09 | brailsmt | MS should be aware of the huge PR boon it could reap if they join the anti-SCO crowd... |
| 21:52.34 | brailsmt | i would even lose the edge of my anti-MS comments if they did so |
| 21:54.05 | brailsmt | look at novell, they are riding te wave of anti-SCO PR... |
| 22:02.03 | brailsmt | here is a SCO gem from its SEC filing... |
| 22:02.06 | brailsmt | We are informed that participants in the Linux industry have attempted to influence participants in the markets in which we sell our products to reduce or eliminate the amount of our products and services that they purchase. They have been somewhat successful in those efforts and similar efforts and success will likely continue. There is also a risk that the assertion of our intellectual property rights will be negatively viewed by part |
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| 22:04.36 | wdo | I have a gnome-terminal problem .. |
| 22:05.24 | wdo | I run a terminal in GNOME (Xterm, gnome-terminal etc) and it NEVER gives me a shell, it just hangs with a black cursor blnking happily at the top left. |
| 22:19.18 | Bradipo | Anyone here know Xylan OmniSwitch at all? |
| 22:20.14 | levi | Sounds like a problem all right. |
| 22:20.21 | levi | wdo: Do you have free ptys? |
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| 23:15.17 | Jayce^ | man that was sweet |
| 23:15.30 | Tenebram | what was? |
| 23:15.38 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 23:15.46 | Jayce^ | Two Towers extended |
| 23:15.51 | Tenebram | Ooh! |
| 23:15.57 | Jayce^ | on a friggen 142" projector.. |
| 23:16.06 | Jayce^ | with DTS 6.1 surround sound |
| 23:16.09 | Tenebram | wow |
| 23:16.30 | levi | Not just any 142" one... it was a genuine friggin' one. |
| 23:17.36 | Jayce^ | yeah.. nice projector.. |
| 23:17.58 | levi | Got a filthy rich friend or something? |
| 23:18.46 | Jayce^ | no, just single :) |
| 23:19.43 | sjansen | Isn't that the same thing? |
| 23:19.56 | sjansen | Oh, I guess not. |
| 23:21.12 | Tenebram | you could take up burglary... |
| 23:21.12 | Jayce^ | heh.. |
| 23:21.39 | Tenebram | I hear there's someone around here with a nice 142" friggin' projector that'll sell for a decent sum. |
| 23:23.24 | sjansen | Jayce^: I think I'll try getting a real job first. See what I can do to catch up with that friend of yours. ;-) |
| 23:24.08 | Tenebram | a real job... like stealing? |
| 23:27.31 | sjansen | *sigh* I hate Java. |
| 23:27.39 | Tenebram | why? |
| 23:28.04 | sjansen | At the moment, I'm trying to convince ant to compile something for a class project. Classpath problems. |
| 23:28.12 | Tenebram | ack |
| 23:28.17 | sjansen | But in general, it's bulky complicated, and brittle. |
| 23:28.18 | Tenebram | java icky |
| 23:28.23 | Tenebram | yeah... |
| 23:33.07 | sjansen | Tenebram: Who are you in real life? |
| 23:33.26 | Tenebram | Stephen Weeks. A freshman at BYU. |
| 23:34.27 | Tenebram | Possibly. I don't know though. I have trouble associating names with people. |
| 23:34.44 | sjansen | Werer you at the installfest boot near the beginning of the semester? |
| 23:35.02 | sjansen | s/Werer/Were/ s/boot/booth/ |
| 23:35.08 | Tenebram | yep |
| 23:35.20 | sjansen | Okay, I think I remember you then. |
| 23:35.58 | Tenebram | Wow, I'm remembered. I feel special. |
| 23:36.19 | sjansen | I'll take that as gratitude, not sarcasm. ;-) |
| 23:36.30 | Tenebram | that's how it was intented. |
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| 23:39.25 | Tenebram | Yay for people joining! |
| 23:47.11 | levi | Ooh, a fresh new zoobie. ;) |
| 23:48.35 | sjansen | zoobie? |
| 23:49.02 | Jayce^ | byu student |
| 23:49.52 | sjansen | Yay for yet another name to call myself. Zoobie. Gringo. Howly. (Although I'm not certain on the spelling of the last.) |
| 23:50.04 | Jayce^ | haolie I think.. |
| 23:50.05 | levi | Wow, it's been 9 years since I was a BYU freshman. |
| 23:52.21 | zzzirk | and are you still going to school? |
| 23:52.22 | zzzirk | hehe |
| 23:54.05 | sjansen | It's been 7 years for me, and yes I'm still here. |
| 23:54.05 | levi | Well, I have still not graduated, but I am not actively going to school. |
| 23:54.58 | Tenebram | I've been here for almost a semester. |
| 23:55.01 | Tenebram | ... |
| 23:55.16 | Tenebram | Not quite the same... |
| 23:55.27 | sjansen | Get out while you still can. Run. Be a geologist, physicist, astronomer, anything (other than humanities). |
| 23:55.59 | Tenebram | Other than humanities? So I need to change my major? |
| 23:56.34 | Tenebram | No, humanities wouldn't be very interesting for me. |
| 23:57.19 | sjansen | I assume you're CS? |
| 23:57.33 | Tenebram | thought about it for a while |
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| 23:57.44 | Tenebram | Probably going with a physics major though |