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| 02:58.27 | uugDave | Anyone here having problems connecting to shell.sourceforge.net via ssh? |
| 02:59.09 | jakea | yep |
| 02:59.24 | jakea | warning: Authentication failed. |
| 02:59.24 | jakea | Disconnected; connection lost (Connection closed by remote host.). |
| 03:01.32 | uugDave | Dang. |
| 03:01.37 | uugDave | They only do this when I want to make a release. |
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| 06:13.17 | spr5 | Question for anyone on, I'm trying to install the RPM of gaim0.72 (with urpm in mandrake 9.2) and it informs me that libtk8.3.so is "unsatisfied" any thoughts? |
| 06:13.43 | torriem | Works fine on redhat using the packages from gaim's site or the ones in the apt repository for me. |
| 06:13.45 | Jayce^ | the texstar rpm? |
| 06:14.11 | spr5 | the mandrake 9.1 RPM from sourceforge |
| 06:14.52 | torriem | Weird. On my redhat system there are no dependencies on anything libtk* |
| 06:15.11 | spr5 | Any idea what libtk is? |
| 06:15.16 | torriem | part of tcl/tk |
| 06:15.18 | torriem | I think |
| 06:15.50 | torriem | It's probably provided by the rpm "tk" |
| 06:16.22 | torriem | on redhat it is tk-8.3.5-93 and provides /usr/lib/libtk8.3.so |
| 06:16.48 | torriem | It's actually a graphical user interface kit (like gtk) for use with the scripting language "tcl" (pronounced tickle) |
| 06:18.20 | spr5 | I'm getting it from the tcl/tk site. thanks |
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| 14:37.33 | Hanuman | t minus less than one day and counting... |
| 14:38.11 | Hanuman | So far looks like Circuit City and Best Buy have the best prices |
| 14:42.52 | bonez39 | less than one day..and then? |
| 14:42.57 | Hanuman | hmmm...according to Walmart.com - they may be a buck or two cheaper |
| 14:43.21 | Hanuman | LOTR TT |
| 14:43.32 | Hanuman | Extended Edition DVD |
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| 15:20.39 | sjansen | Gooooooood morning #utah! |
| 15:22.18 | Hanuman | whaaaasaaaaaap(i)!!! |
| 15:27.27 | elg | but I need a cradle. |
| 15:27.38 | elg | (preferably USB. :) |
| 15:27.39 | Hanuman | elg: way to go - I could have probably sold you mine |
| 15:28.04 | elg | got it from my bro in law who wasn't using it for helping him with his computer (windows reinstall, I slapped Knoppix on too) |
| 15:28.23 | elg | Hanuman: you can sell me your cradle perhaps |
| 15:28.24 | Hanuman | I don't have an extra cradle (using both of them), but I do have a usb cord that sync's w/ the computer |
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| 15:28.41 | elg | i'm confused |
| 15:28.47 | sjansen | elg: I'll check if I still have my cradle tonight. |
| 15:28.51 | Hanuman | It's not a cradle, but just a cord |
| 15:29.00 | Hanuman | for portable use |
| 15:29.02 | elg | well, does it sync things? I don't care if it cradles. :) |
| 15:29.06 | Hanuman | yeah |
| 15:29.20 | Hanuman | sjansen's closer to you, though so if he has one you would get it faster |
| 15:29.32 | elg | yeah |
| 15:29.34 | Hanuman | otherwise I could mail it to you |
| 15:29.51 | Hanuman | I'd have to figure out what it's worth now - I imagine not much |
| 15:30.28 | elg | well I just bid on one on ebay for $1 ($4 shipping) before coming here. 21 hours left. i saw another usb visor cradle go unbid on just this morning. |
| 15:30.34 | sjansen | Hanuman: I accidentally closed the window for a moment. If you definetly have one, that might be best. I'm not sure I hung onto mine. It's been a while and I've gone through a couple junk purging cycles. |
| 15:30.35 | Hanuman | sjansen: yo |
| 15:30.53 | elg | ~lart yo |
| 15:30.55 | Hanuman | I definitely have one |
| 15:31.54 | Hanuman | I didn't say yo - must be one of the irssi scripts I have installed |
| 15:32.02 | Hanuman | wonder if it's the hello script I have |
| 15:34.57 | Hanuman | elg: I'll sell it to you for $2.50 plus whatever shipping costs (probably not much - it's not very big). The lowest E-bay closing prices I'm seeing are at about $2.95 |
| 15:35.16 | Hanuman | You can just pay by paypal |
| 15:35.27 | Hanuman | or mail me the money - whatever |
| 15:35.41 | Hanuman | if you're interested |
| 15:40.08 | elg | i'll get back to you. I'm already high bidder on one. i wouldn't mind having two though (one to use at work) so if you want to part with it for just shipping I'll take it off your hands right now (paypal) |
| 15:40.33 | Hanuman | I'll think about that |
| 15:41.08 | Hanuman | not like $2.50 is alot of money or anything so it probably doesn't really matter |
| 15:41.21 | Hanuman | whether I charge for it or anything |
| 15:42.12 | Hanuman | I've also got to dig it out of my spare parts box so I'll get back with you tomorrow |
| 15:43.02 | elg | ok |
| 15:43.04 | elg | ~slashdot |
| 15:43.15 | elg | oops, not up yet. |
| 15:43.35 | Hanuman | just read it - very cool |
| 15:43.38 | elg | top article about SLC city doing broadband or something. |
| 15:43.49 | elg | the comments are worse than normal /. fare |
| 15:44.25 | elg | heh, or that could be because I'm not logged in and am reading at a lower threshold. :) |
| 15:45.26 | elg | still, even at 5 it's bad. these people obviously don't live in Utah if they think that just because it's Utah SLC would have mandatory filtering on something like this! |
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| 15:46.05 | elg | provo maybe (still a long shot), but definitely not slc. although they probably would offer it |
| 15:46.18 | Hanuman | I think if there are going to be public utilities, internet ought to be one of them, as long as people can compete with it |
| 15:46.37 | Hanuman | think you guys will get voip too? |
| 15:47.31 | Hanuman | Utah seems to be ahead of the curve in alot of tech, not just among IT people |
| 15:47.53 | Hanuman | I know Richmond VA is very behind the curve |
| 15:48.09 | Hanuman | So keep in mind that alot of people commenting are living in their own little bubble |
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| 15:50.46 | Hanuman | "Did you see that burn mark by the I-15 on Point of the Mountain? that's the fiber optic running underground to Canopy ..." |
| 15:50.49 | Hanuman | lol |
| 15:51.04 | Hanuman | hi f |
| 15:52.23 | Hanuman | " I never thought I'd say this in my life, but I'm moving to Utah!" - another funny one |
| 15:52.24 | f | hi. |
| 15:52.37 | f | hold on let me relogin. |
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| 15:53.30 | art | that's better |
| 15:56.20 | Hanuman | Is ebay based in Utah? |
| 16:07.02 | bonez39 | call center is here in draper.... |
| 16:07.21 | bonez39 | burn mark? |
| 16:10.10 | art | hey any debian users out there? |
| 16:11.25 | Hanuman | here's my comment to all that Utah stuff: |
| 16:11.26 | Hanuman | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=86134&cid=7493259 |
| 16:15.52 | Hanuman | I'm sick of the attitude people (in particularly on the East Coast) have of Utah that it is this "weird Mormon State out West" |
| 16:16.15 | Hanuman | I literally had someone out here tell me that that is what people out here think of Utah |
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| 16:21.13 | Hanuman | who was it that uses spambayes for their windows users at work? |
| 16:33.37 | Hanuman | or better yet has anyone tried installing python and using it on Windows 98? |
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| 17:15.11 | sjansen | So do you have that tied to an IP, or can I just sneak in some time while you're away Jayce^? |
| 17:15.40 | Jayce^ | actually, I think Tim set it up.. |
| 17:15.50 | Jayce^ | but it's tied to my nick.. have to register as me to get it |
| 17:16.24 | sjansen | That's what I thought, no actual checks to prevent someone else. |
| 17:16.47 | pre-ibot | ~slashdot |
| 17:17.11 | sjansen | Maybe I shouldn't do it... |
| 17:17.44 | sjansen | But I wonder if it'd be possible to confuse ibot then impersonate it to get op. |
| 17:18.03 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:18.08 | Jayce^ | so, what's the best price people have seen on the extended version? |
| 17:18.09 | emcnabb | morning all |
| 17:18.18 | Jayce^^ | 24 |
| 17:18.32 | Jayce^ | 24.99 is what I saw.. |
| 17:20.42 | Jayce^ | wal-mart price matching at midnight, here I come :) |
| 17:21.14 | Jayce^^ | 22.99 |
| 17:21.27 | Jayce^^ | @ shopko |
| 17:24.16 | Jayce^ | ooh |
| 17:28.22 | Hanuman | anyone checked Sams? |
| 17:28.33 | Hanuman | Walmart is 24.5* |
| 17:29.31 | Bradipo | Will it be sold out do you think? |
| 17:30.44 | neybar_work | fotr extended version wasn't really a sell out event, I wouldn't thing TTT would be either. The nerds/geeks will probably be out in force but that is a small percentile :-) |
| 17:42.17 | elg | art: I'm Debian |
| 17:47.48 | sjansen | no, I'm Debian |
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| 17:59.29 | Jayce^ | wal-mart price matches.. so I'll get it there (closer) at midnight.. |
| 18:00.37 | art | sorry I already figured it out, elg. |
| 18:01.07 | art | sjansen: it's sparticus, with kirk douglas |
| 18:01.14 | art | I'm sparticus |
| 18:03.26 | zzzirk | I am Spartacus |
| 18:07.02 | levi | I am Spartacus, I'm the real Spartacus... all those other Spartacus etc. |
| 18:10.02 | HarleyPig | How come I can't splice variables from an array for sprintf? |
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| 18:11.46 | HarleyPig | my @time = localtime(); $time[5]+=1900; $time[4]++; my $ft = sprintf "%02d%02d%02d", $time[5,4,3] |
| 18:12.32 | HarleyPig | the last statement doesn't work. I get 000000. |
| 18:17.40 | neybar_work | does anyone remember the vim command to expand tab characters to spaces? |
| 18:18.02 | zzzirk | set expandtab |
| 18:18.09 | zzzirk | is that what you're looking for? |
| 18:26.01 | HarleyPig | I'm not sure ... looking up expend tab ... |
| 18:26.55 | elg | HarleyPig: that combined with retab |
| 18:28.17 | neybar_work | zzzirk: yes, thanks. I was trying tabexpand |
| 18:32.16 | HarleyPig | Needs to be @time[5,4,3], not $time[5,4,3]. |
| 18:32.41 | HarleyPig | Actually got a response from #perl. |
| 18:38.37 | Hanuman | Just got back from the local Apple outlet - the new ibooks are oftly tempting... |
| 18:38.57 | Hanuman | s/oftly/awfully/ - is that right? |
| 18:39.07 | Hanuman | ~lart my grammar |
| 18:39.26 | levi | Yes, awfully is right. |
| 18:39.37 | levi | I like my eMac. |
| 18:39.40 | Hanuman | sorry - mind-freeze for a minute |
| 18:40.01 | Hanuman | with ibook now being G4 - it almost makes sense to get an ibook over a powerbook |
| 18:40.15 | Hanuman | the new G4's also have the slot-CD-ROM's |
| 18:40.56 | levi | How fast are the iBook G4s? |
| 18:40.57 | sjansen | http://www.kryogenix.org/days/561.html |
| 18:41.29 | Hanuman | Same speed as the old powerbook G4s almost |
| 18:41.41 | Hanuman | 12" is 867 MHz |
| 18:41.48 | Hanuman | 14" goes up to 1 GHz |
| 18:43.58 | levi | My 1Ghz eMac is pretty speedy. |
| 18:44.04 | levi | How much RAM can you get in them? |
| 18:48.03 | Hanuman | the ibook I think allows up to 512Mb |
| 18:48.08 | Hanuman | maybe a little more |
| 18:48.15 | Hanuman | powerbook allows up to 1 Gb |
| 18:48.19 | Hanuman | I believe |
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| 18:50.37 | levi | 512Mb ought to make for a decent experience. |
| 18:51.13 | Hanuman | yeah - not as fast as my PC, but good enough for a laptop |
| 18:52.06 | levi | Actually, the GUI on a 1Ghz Mac w/512mb of RAM feels much nicer than on a 2Ghz PC. |
| 18:53.08 | levi | Feels especially nicer than Linux GUIs in smoothness. Nicer than Windows GUI in both appearance and general GUI speed. |
| 18:54.10 | levi | I think Linux desktops look great, much better than Windows and pretty close to OS X, at least until you start dragging windows over other windows. ;) |
| 18:55.50 | Hanuman | I love the Mac GUI - that's one of the major reasons for getting a Mac |
| 18:57.13 | zzzirk | hell, I'd pay to get the Mac GUI on a Linux or other freenix type box |
| 18:57.29 | zzzirk | I just can't afford a Mac right now |
| 18:57.29 | Jayce^ | can irssi connect to multiple servers at once? like xchat tabs? |
| 18:57.31 | zzzirk | :( |
| 18:57.32 | levi | zzzirk: So, buy a Mac. Then you have the Mac GUI on FreeBSD. :) |
| 18:57.37 | zzzirk | heh |
| 18:57.48 | zzzirk | yeah, I'm saving for one... |
| 18:57.56 | levi | eMacs are fairly inexpensive. |
| 18:58.57 | zzzirk | yeah, but I want an iBook or PowerBook |
| 18:59.05 | zzzirk | I want my cake and eat it too |
| 18:59.06 | zzzirk | :-) |
| 18:59.14 | levi | Oh, well, then keep saving. :) |
| 18:59.24 | zzzirk | that's what I'm working toward is the portability to go with the nice GUI |
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| 19:03.43 | Hanuman | zzzirk: that's my Christmas present this year |
| 19:03.55 | zzzirk | very nice |
| 19:03.55 | Hanuman | w/ student discount, ibook is about $949 |
| 19:04.19 | elg | ok, mod_perl gurus |
| 19:04.37 | elg | I install mod_perl and now apache won't start: Configuration syntax error detected. Not reloading. |
| 19:04.40 | elg | /usr/sbin/apachectl: line 171: 31379 Segmentation fault $HTTPD -t |
| 19:05.04 | elg | here's my LoadModule line |
| 19:05.05 | elg | LoadModule perl_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_perl.so |
| 19:07.03 | Hanuman | I always install mod_perl in with apache. Have you tried Apache Toolkit? |
| 19:07.19 | elg | what's that. why would I try it? |
| 19:07.54 | elg | neermind, grabbing the most recent mod_perl package (unstable) did it. |
| 19:08.15 | elg | probably cuz I'm running an unstable apache version |
| 19:08.36 | Hanuman | okay - cool. that makes sense. I've never used apache toolkit, but Jayce^ always talks about it |
| 19:08.42 | Hanuman | I like manually installing everything from source |
| 19:09.34 | sjansen | Real men don't install from source. They read the source then enter the binary in morse code using just the space bar. |
| 19:09.56 | Hanuman | If you need any more help let me know - mod_perl is my cup of tea (if I drank tea). |
| 19:10.02 | emcnabb | sjansen, real men code with sticks as 1's and stones as 0's |
| 19:10.09 | Hanuman | sjansen: now that's my type of installation |
| 19:10.20 | Hanuman | .. -. ... - .- .-.. .-.. ..-. .-. --- -- ... --- ..- .-. -.-. . |
| 19:10.38 | emcnabb | Hanuman, is that "hello, world"? |
| 19:12.29 | elg | ibot, sing |
| 19:12.31 | | "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" |
| 19:13.25 | sjansen | Can we teach ibot new songs? |
| 19:15.19 | elg | ibot, sing |
| 19:15.22 | | ACTION sings loudly |
| 19:15.42 | neybar_work | ibot, dance |
| 19:15.43 | | ACTION does a disco dance. |
| 19:15.57 | elg | it would seem he only knows one song |
| 19:16.05 | elg | ibot, do the jig |
| 19:16.07 | | elg: i don't know |
| 19:18.36 | Hanuman | emcnabb: that is "install from source" |
| 19:18.48 | Hanuman | .... . .-.. .-.. --- .-- --- .-. .-.. -.. |
| 19:18.55 | Hanuman | That was Hello World |
| 19:19.02 | zzzirk | dang |
| 19:19.07 | zzzirk | I was just starting to decode it |
| 19:19.13 | zzzirk | you gave me the answer too quickly |
| 19:19.14 | zzzirk | ;) |
| 19:19.28 | Hanuman | sorry - do you see the [morse]>> above it? Or is that just me? |
| 19:19.41 | elg | just you charlie |
| 19:20.00 | Hanuman | ahh...sorry - didn't mean to spoil it. My client repeats what it said |
| 19:20.08 | Hanuman | here's one: |
| 19:20.20 | Hanuman | .--. . .-. .-.. .-. ..- .-.. . --.. |
| 19:20.28 | zzzirk | nice |
| 19:20.40 | zzzirk | no, I don't see the [morse]>> above it |
| 19:21.05 | Hanuman | yeah - it was my client doing that, that's why |
| 19:32.14 | Hanuman | man - none of the states I've lived in but Utah have irc channels on this server |
| 19:39.32 | levi | Therefore they must not be as cool as Utah. ;) |
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| 19:53.29 | Hanuman | quick - everyone reprogram ibot to say things about hans! |
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| 20:05.46 | HarleyPig | Anyone willing to start an ISP in AF? afconnect and utwire are both selling service at ungodly prices ($20/month for *ONE* static ip?!) |
| 20:06.21 | HarleyPig | I figger someone could sell for $29.95 and provide a static ip for free and make a killing. |
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| 20:51.25 | LrnChndlr | ok, who's the official perl guru today ;) |
| 20:52.29 | Hanuman | depends on the question |
| 20:52.34 | hans | it's Hanuman's turn |
| 20:52.48 | Hanuman | if I can't answer it blame it on \usr\bin\perl |
| 20:54.48 | LrnChndlr | ok |
| 20:55.27 | LrnChndlr | its an easy regex question, but i dont have that stuff memorized yet and one of my coworkers has my Perl Cookbook |
| 20:55.32 | hans | ~lart \usr\bin\perl |
| 20:55.45 | Hanuman | go ahead |
| 20:56.25 | LrnChndlr | ok, i currently have a line that looks like this: |
| 20:56.26 | LrnChndlr | if ($sku eq $uniquesku){ $founduniquesku = "yes"; } |
| 20:56.29 | Hanuman | !scissors to get \usr\bin\perl out of the duct tape |
| 20:56.59 | LrnChndlr | so that only works if $sku is an exact match to $uniquesku |
| 20:57.32 | LrnChndlr | i want to see if $sku STARTS WITH $uniquesku |
| 20:58.11 | Hanuman | if ($sku =~ m/^$uniquesku/) { $founduniquesku = q{yes}; } |
| 20:58.24 | Hanuman | the ^ designates the beginning of the string |
| 20:58.38 | LrnChndlr | kewl |
| 20:58.40 | Hanuman | =~ means contains, essentially |
| 20:58.49 | LrnChndlr | and the m? |
| 20:58.51 | Hanuman | if you want "doesn't contain", use !~ |
| 20:59.11 | Hanuman | m is the match operator, you probably don't really need it - I just use it out of good practice and readability |
| 20:59.32 | Hanuman | but if you want to use an operator other than "/", you need the m |
| 20:59.38 | LrnChndlr | what is the advantage of using q{yes} instead of just "yes" |
| 20:59.53 | hans | LrnChndlr: it's less legible? |
| 20:59.53 | Hanuman | you could do if ($sku =~ m#^$uniquesku#) {} if you wanted |
| 21:00.04 | Hanuman | LrnChndlr: my preference |
| 21:00.10 | Hanuman | q doesn't use interpolation |
| 21:00.24 | Hanuman | it's the same as single quotes (') |
| 21:00.41 | Hanuman | I just use it by convention |
| 21:00.58 | Hanuman | qq{} is the same as double-quotes (") and does interpolation |
| 21:01.25 | Hanuman | q and qq are like the m - you can also use other characters to designate what the variable is between them |
| 21:02.00 | Hanuman | so you could use qq#{$variable}# and that would include the {} within |
| 21:02.10 | LrnChndlr | wait, is this backwards? |
| 21:02.23 | LrnChndlr | $sku =~ m/^$uniquesku/ |
| 21:02.40 | LrnChndlr | is that checking to see if $sku is at the beginning of $uniquesku? |
| 21:02.56 | LrnChndlr | I want to see if $uniquesku is at the beginning of $sku |
| 21:03.03 | Hanuman | yeah - you would want it $uniquesku =~ m/^$sku/ then |
| 21:03.15 | Hanuman | oh - the original is what you want then |
| 21:03.32 | Hanuman | $sku =~ m/^$uniquesku/ |
| 21:04.10 | Hanuman | make sense? |
| 21:04.41 | Hanuman | if ($sku (includes) ^$uniquesku) then do something |
| 21:04.57 | Hanuman | ^meaning beginning of the variable $sku |
| 21:05.58 | Hanuman | 8-ball: is that right? |
| 21:05.59 | \usr\bin\perl | Hanuman: 8-ball says: No |
| 21:06.08 | Hanuman | well, blame it on \usr\bin\perl |
| 21:07.02 | LrnChndlr | ok, so which is it? |
| 21:09.05 | sjansen | if ($sku =~ m/^$uniquesku/) { $founduniquesku = q{yes}; } |
| 21:09.14 | LrnChndlr | ok, so in terms of grep (bad analogy, i know), what is between the /'s in the righthand side of the expression is what is being grepped for, while on the lefthand side is what is being grepped in? |
| 21:09.20 | sjansen | Ignore 8-ball, he doesn't know what he's saying. |
| 21:09.34 | sjansen | 8-ball: Do you even know anything at all? |
| 21:09.34 | \usr\bin\perl | sjansen: 8-ball says: Outlook so so |
| 21:09.55 | sjansen | Correct. |
| 21:09.59 | hans | apparently he knows something about outlook |
| 21:10.24 | sjansen | No, if he knew anything about Outlook he'd no Outlook's a no no. |
| 21:10.42 | sjansen | s/no Out/know Out/ |
| 21:10.50 | Hanuman | LrnChndlr: yeah - correct (on the grep analogy) |
| 21:11.09 | Hanuman | and yeah - ignore 8-ball |
| 21:11.25 | Hanuman | he just pretends to know what he's talking about |
| 21:11.37 | sjansen | On the other hand, ibot it a font of wisdom. |
| 21:12.09 | Hanuman | ibot, 8-ball could be an Outlook user and doesn't always know what he is talking about |
| 21:12.10 | | that's too long, Hanuman |
| 21:12.24 | Hanuman | ibot, 8-ball doesn't always know what he is talking about |
| 21:12.26 | | that's too long, Hanuman |
| 21:12.38 | sjansen | ~fedora? |
| 21:12.40 | | methinks fedora is what Indiana Jones wears |
| 21:12.42 | Hanuman | ibot, 8-ball sucks! |
| 21:12.43 | | Hanuman: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 21:12.44 | Hanuman | ibot: yo |
| 21:12.45 | | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 21:12.49 | emcnabb | ~sjansen |
| 21:12.51 | | sjansen is probably one guy who really knows where his towel is |
| 21:12.52 | emcnabb | ~sjansen? |
| 21:12.54 | | i heard sjansen is one guy who really knows where his towel is |
| 21:12.56 | levi | I want a fedora. |
| 21:13.06 | sjansen | ~fedora? |
| 21:13.07 | | fedora is probably what Indiana Jones wears, or the success to Redhat Linux -- a great OS, much better than debian. |
| 21:13.10 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap sjansen |
| 21:13.14 | | ACTION slaps sjansen upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 21:13.14 | Hanuman | cool - my bot and ibot just talked together |
| 21:14.55 | Hanuman | ~8-ball |
| 21:14.57 | | it has been said that 8-ball is an Outlook user and doesn't always know what he is talking about |
| 21:22.51 | Hanuman | anyone here ever used Moneydance? |
| 21:27.42 | levi | What is Moneydance? |
| 21:28.01 | sjansen | IIRC, it's like gnucash. |
| 21:28.16 | levi | I have used gnucash. |
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| 21:37.51 | Hanuman | yeah - my local LUG is having them come do a presentation. Evidently they're based in Richmond where I live |
| 21:38.11 | Hanuman | never even heard of moneydance before this |
| 21:43.27 | hans | ibot, you hate fedora |
| 21:43.29 | | hans: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:43.54 | hans | the manual doesn't tell me about your feelings for fedora, ibot. you have to search your soul |
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| 21:51.35 | Hanuman | ibot loves fedora |
| 21:51.37 | | Hanuman: i don't know |
| 21:51.41 | Hanuman | ~fedora |
| 21:51.43 | | ACTION I hate fedora! |
| 21:51.47 | Hanuman | :-p |
| 21:52.59 | hans | ibot, dance |
| 21:53.01 | | ACTION does a disco dance. |
| 21:53.08 | hans | ibot, riverdance |
| 21:53.09 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, hans |
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| 22:05.54 | Hanuman | ~fedora |
| 22:05.56 | | ACTION loves fedora! |
| 22:06.53 | torriem | Hmm |
| 22:13.46 | Hanuman | ibot: tell hans he's using eliza |
| 22:18.58 | Jayce^ | hey, what's the command for ntp to update everything now, not a little at a time? |
| 22:19.08 | Bradipo | ntpdate |
| 22:19.37 | Jayce^ | does that do the incremental changes by default though? or do it wall at once. |
| 22:22.32 | Bradipo | All at once. |
| 22:22.42 | Bradipo | It sets the system clock to an NTP clock. |
| 22:22.46 | Bradipo | It only does it once. |
| 22:23.06 | Bradipo | It is to be used to get your clock close to the proper time so that ntpd can then do the incremental changes. |
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| 22:42.13 | LrnChndlr | ok |
| 22:42.21 | LrnChndlr | 'nuther perl question |
| 22:42.30 | LrnChndlr | if (($sku =~ m/^LS-401-1C/) || ($sku =~ m/^LS-401-2C/)) { $founduniquesku = "yes"; } |
| 22:42.36 | LrnChndlr | does that look OK? |
| 22:43.00 | LrnChndlr | LS-401-1C will be taken literally as the text to match against? |
| 22:43.21 | LrnChndlr | at the beginning of the scalar variable $sku? |
| 22:46.44 | LrnChndlr | hello? |
| 22:46.50 | LrnChndlr | perl gurus? ;-) |
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| 22:48.30 | Jayce^ | LrnChndlr, did you get my messages earlier? |
| 22:49.10 | LrnChndlr | jace |
| 22:49.16 | LrnChndlr | jayce^: no |
| 22:49.35 | Jayce^ | ahh |
| 22:49.46 | Jayce^ | well, now I dont' have it in my history, since I reconnected.. |
| 22:49.53 | LrnChndlr | doh |
| 22:50.02 | Jayce^ | but I recommended doing a single regex, and using a character class instead of the 1 or 2 |
| 22:50.10 | Jayce^ | since that is the only difference between the two regex |
| 22:50.22 | LrnChndlr | how do I do that? |
| 22:50.33 | Jayce^ | that way you only have one regex to compile, and on compare, once parse.. etc.. |
| 22:50.52 | Jayce^ | [1-2] where you have the 1, then get rid of your other half of the || |
| 22:51.03 | LrnChndlr | in this case it probably doesnt make that much difference, but it would make the code cleaner |
| 22:51.30 | Jayce^ | you could also do (1|2) but the class [] is faster (single node, instead of a placeholder and restart) |
| 22:52.12 | LrnChndlr | kewl |
| 22:52.13 | LrnChndlr | ok |
| 22:52.18 | LrnChndlr | what if I did this: |
| 22:52.56 | LrnChndlr | $uniquesku = "LS-401-[1-2]C"; |
| 22:53.05 | LrnChndlr | if ($sku =~ m/^$uniquesku/) { $founduniquesku = "yes"; } |
| 22:53.21 | Jayce^ | you could put the ^ in the assignment.. |
| 22:53.23 | LrnChndlr | would that work correctly? |
| 22:53.38 | Jayce^ | but even better, a regex is a first class object since perl 5.6 or so.. |
| 22:53.54 | LrnChndlr | yes, but trying to keep it as simple as possible for a non-programmer type to just have to set the one variable at the top of the script |
| 22:54.56 | Jayce^ | so $uniquesku = qr/your regex/; $sku =~ m/$uniquesku/; |
| 22:55.03 | LrnChndlr | so would those two lines have the same effect as if ($sku =~ m/^LS-401-[1-2]C/) { $founduniquesku = "yes"; } |
| 22:55.08 | Jayce^ | if you are looking for more than one, that will make a very large difference |
| 22:55.22 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 22:56.05 | Jayce^ | because the string is fixed in the code, the compiler will optimize it down, and you won't have any runtime penalties |
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| 22:59.05 | LrnChndlr | it would only be done maybe 1 to 4 or 5 times per execution of this script |
| 22:59.35 | LrnChndlr | basically, once per line item of an e-commerce order |
| 23:01.18 | Jayce^ | but the sku you are looking for doesn't change.. |
| 23:01.27 | Jayce^ | that's where the regex object would help.. if that changed.. |
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