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| 00:37.10 | neybar | anyone good with apache here? |
| 00:38.13 | neybar | I have three virtual hosts setup, 2 domains, and 1 ssl domain. the unencrypted domains pull up just fine, but I can't get my https domain to pull up. |
| 00:40.43 | Jayce^ | synic, nice intro to plug... |
| 00:40.49 | Jayce^ | err..sllug I meant |
| 00:40.56 | synic | Jayce^: thank ya :) |
| 00:41.16 | synic | I don't suppose anyone here knows where I can find the i8042 driver in the kernel configuration? |
| 00:41.28 | Jayce^ | nic? |
| 00:42.10 | synic | I dunno - I'm supposed to remove it so suspend will work again |
| 00:42.26 | synic | it's in /input/serio filesystem wise, but I can't find it in the config |
| 00:50.04 | synic | and if I change it and enter the kernel config again, it goes back. It's driving me nuts |
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| 02:31.53 | torriem | ~slashdot |
| 02:32.15 | torriem | ibot, what is IE? |
| 02:32.17 | | I think you lost me on that one, torriem |
| 02:32.33 | Jayce^ | ibot, IE? |
| 02:32.34 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Jayce^ |
| 02:32.44 | torriem | We need to train him better |
| 02:33.56 | Jayce^ | ~IE |
| 02:34.43 | torriem | ~hrlp |
| 02:34.45 | torriem | ~help |
| 02:35.45 | torriem | ~IE |
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| 04:22.15 | emcnabb | resplin, hello |
| 04:22.29 | resplin | Howdy |
| 04:27.27 | resplin | I've arrived, as Stuart requested. Is Han's a Gentoo user yet? |
| 04:27.34 | emcnabb | not yet |
| 04:27.39 | emcnabb | we're working on it |
| 04:27.42 | emcnabb | hans, right? |
| 04:27.43 | resplin | ibot punish hans |
| 04:27.45 | | resplin: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 04:27.50 | emcnabb | ~lart hans |
| 04:28.07 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap resplin |
| 04:28.10 | | ACTION slaps resplin upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 04:28.23 | resplin | Solaris 7! That's got packages that are still in Debian unstable! |
| 04:28.31 | resplin | I like hugh |
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| 05:04.02 | resplin | What distro do you prefer Jayce^? |
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| 05:08.29 | garpert | need held with mod perl? |
| 05:10.27 | Jayce^ | resplin, lots of others over gentoo :) |
| 05:10.29 | synic | they might all be getting ready to go to bed by now... |
| 05:10.33 | synic | oh, nevermind :) |
| 05:10.53 | Jayce^ | sourcemage, debian, heck even mdk :) |
| 05:11.05 | Jayce^ | what kinda mod_perl help? |
| 05:11.19 | garpert | mod_perl2 |
| 05:12.01 | resplin | What do you think of sourcemage? |
| 05:12.23 | Jayce^ | I love it, still has some quirks, from newness, but I liked it better than gentoo |
| 05:12.25 | garpert | basic stuff how do check if its working |
| 05:12.29 | Jayce^ | for a source distro |
| 05:12.40 | garpert | some ome sent me hear |
| 05:13.01 | Jayce^ | garpert, the docs on perl.apache.org give a decent tutorial for the basics.. |
| 05:13.23 | Jayce^ | they are pretty darn good.. |
| 05:15.22 | garpert | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.04 | garpert | followed a howto on Mason and stuffed up |
| 05:17.11 | garpert | how do check from a shell if it there there abig gaps in my knowledge |
| 05:17.54 | Jayce^ | you mean check if mason is installed? |
| 05:19.49 | garpert | no ith how to said to download latest apache2 and modperl to usr/local red hat usally has it else where |
| 05:20.00 | garpert | ive ucked up |
| 05:20.13 | synic | garpert: please don't swear in here. |
| 05:20.37 | garpert | mucked up sorry |
| 05:22.20 | garpert | keep getting end of script errors on sample *.pl scripts |
| 05:22.42 | garpert | they were working |
| 05:23.02 | garpert | I need clues on tracking it down |
| 05:23.39 | Jayce^ | well, the error log should give you your best hints |
| 05:25.18 | Jayce^ | but if you are getting that, then it's a pretty good chance you install is ok (well, pretty good, not guaranteed though) |
| 05:25.20 | Jayce^ | what kind of script are you running? |
| 05:25.20 | Jayce^ | simple test? or are you trying to run an old apache/mod_perl 1 script? |
| 05:29.55 | garpert | first.cgi wont even run |
| 05:29.59 | emcnabb | garpert, what did you just run to show you where away? |
| 05:30.32 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, it's the /away <reason> command |
| 05:30.33 | garpert | user mode on xchat |
| 05:30.51 | emcnabb | cool, thanks |
| 05:30.57 | garpert | yes marked away |
| 05:31.18 | Jayce^ | what is first.cgi? just a hello world? |
| 05:31.22 | synic | xchat 2.0.5 is nifty by greying out the away folks in the nick list |
| 05:31.48 | emcnabb | back |
| 05:31.58 | Jayce^ | wow, that was fast :) |
| 05:31.58 | emcnabb | how do you get it to say you're back? |
| 05:32.03 | emcnabb | just testing :-) |
| 05:32.05 | synic | just /away again |
| 05:32.07 | synic | or /back |
| 05:32.11 | emcnabb | haha |
| 05:32.12 | emcnabb | ok |
| 05:32.17 | emcnabb | away testing |
| 05:32.20 | Jayce^ | great, now emcnabb has a new toy |
| 05:32.32 | emcnabb | Jayce^, you know me and my toys :-) |
| 05:32.36 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 05:32.41 | garpert | Jayace is it in my httpd.conf |
| 05:33.14 | Jayce^ | what does your error_log say when you try and hit that script? |
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| 05:34.53 | garpert | apache/2.0.40 (rehat linux) configured --resuming noormal |
| 05:35.31 | garpert | Premeture end of script headers |
| 05:35.58 | Jayce^ | nothing else at all? |
| 05:36.13 | Jayce^ | how long is the script? |
| 05:36.55 | garpert | look like im trying to load module twice but that says skipping |
| 05:37.08 | garpert | two lines |
| 05:39.36 | emcnabb | what is PCM volume? |
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| 05:42.18 | art | exit |
| 05:43.09 | emcnabb | don't leave art! |
| 05:43.36 | art | sorry it's been a while since I've been on irc. |
| 05:43.45 | Jayce^ | art is the guy to ask that question to emcnabb |
| 05:43.46 | art | I don't remember the commands :) |
| 05:43.50 | emcnabb | we're glad to have you here art |
| 05:43.59 | art | what's the question? |
| 05:44.00 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 05:44.06 | emcnabb | what is PCM volume? |
| 05:44.14 | emcnabb | in my alsa settings |
| 05:44.16 | Jayce^ | ooh, found two bittorrents of dvd rips of lotr::TT extended already.. |
| 05:44.29 | emcnabb | Jayce^, nice |
| 05:44.31 | Jayce^ | I could download it and finish just in time for it to be in stores |
| 05:45.17 | art | ok you have regular volume, which is system-wide (line in, CD, mic, and PCM) |
| 05:45.35 | art | PCM is the volume of all program sound output. |
| 05:45.41 | emcnabb | oh, ok |
| 05:45.46 | emcnabb | what does it stand for? |
| 05:46.10 | art | i.e. XMMS, ardour, audacity, SpiralSynthModular, PD, rhythmbox ... |
| 05:46.17 | emcnabb | gotcha |
| 05:46.43 | emcnabb | I have this annoying problem right now when I run a 2.6 test kernel; every time I reboot the sound is off |
| 05:46.47 | emcnabb | I turn it back on |
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| 05:46.53 | emcnabb | but next time it's muted |
| 05:47.05 | emcnabb | it never happens with a 2.4 kernel |
| 05:47.17 | art | yeah. |
| 05:47.22 | art | that does happen. |
| 05:47.40 | emcnabb | can't figure out how to get it to stay |
| 05:47.46 | emcnabb | luckily it's not a huge problem |
| 05:47.49 | emcnabb | just annoying |
| 05:48.01 | art | mine mutes even with the 2.4 kernel. |
| 05:48.09 | emcnabb | every time? |
| 05:48.15 | art | yeah. |
| 05:48.19 | art | it's a pain. |
| 05:48.20 | emcnabb | wow |
| 05:48.22 | art | but it's ok. |
| 05:48.54 | emcnabb | I've even run: alsactl store |
| 05:49.37 | art | hmmm. |
| 05:49.44 | art | I don't really know. |
| 05:50.01 | emcnabb | don't worry about it |
| 05:50.10 | art | I've finally gotten my laptop to a "perfect" state and I'm not really wanting to fool around with a lot. |
| 05:50.16 | emcnabb | haha |
| 05:50.18 | emcnabb | I know what you mean |
| 05:50.21 | garpert | any one here played with staticcling .org |
| 05:50.28 | art | I've got 2.4.21 with lowlatency and preemptive. |
| 05:50.41 | art | jack and ardour running really well. |
| 05:50.54 | emcnabb | I'm not familiar with those apps |
| 05:50.57 | art | alsa and linux-wlan-ng drivers all setup really well. |
| 05:51.17 | art | and bootsplash displaying matrix reloaded on boot. |
| 05:51.26 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 05:51.26 | garpert | jaycestil there? |
| 05:51.58 | art | jack is the new low latency audio server. |
| 05:52.00 | emcnabb | art, so what are you up to these days |
| 05:52.16 | art | ardour is the most amazing sound studio software ever. |
| 05:52.21 | emcnabb | really? |
| 05:52.27 | emcnabb | I'll have to try it out |
| 05:52.27 | art | oh yeah. |
| 05:52.30 | art | baby. |
| 05:52.37 | art | you'll have to build it on gentoo. |
| 05:52.46 | emcnabb | I was trying to get my microphone working over the weekend |
| 05:52.50 | emcnabb | without luck |
| 05:52.57 | art | I don't think they have any ebuilds for it. |
| 05:53.01 | emcnabb | maybe I'll try out ardour |
| 05:53.12 | art | try out audacity for recording first. |
| 05:53.24 | art | ardour is probably way too much for simple recording. |
| 05:53.51 | emcnabb | I wish I could have made your plug meeting about audio on linux |
| 05:54.00 | emcnabb | there is an ebuild for ardour |
| 05:54.06 | emcnabb | it's masked |
| 05:54.22 | art | it's designed to be used with high-level-professional sound cards for studio recording. |
| 05:55.27 | art | and of courseit makes use of all the LADSPA plugins. |
| 05:56.12 | emcnabb | what is LADSPA? |
| 05:56.29 | art | Linux Audio Developers Simple Plugin Architecture |
| 05:56.47 | art | awsome sound plugins. |
| 05:56.49 | art | they rock. |
| 05:57.03 | emcnabb | sounds cool |
| 05:57.08 | art | it's awsome. |
| 05:58.01 | emcnabb | are there any good pages out there that descibe what the best sound programs out there are and how they all fit together? |
| 05:59.52 | art | http://linux-sound.org |
| 05:59.57 | art | is a good place to start. |
| 06:00.15 | art | hey you know I'm always willing to give a lecture for the UUG. |
| 06:00.37 | emcnabb | yeah, that actually "sounds" good |
| 06:00.39 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 06:01.34 | emcnabb | maybe we can have you present in the next couple months (Dec or Jan) |
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| 06:04.44 | emcnabb | hey Scott |
| 06:04.50 | spr5 | yo |
| 06:04.59 | emcnabb | It's nice to see you on :-) |
| 06:05.11 | emcnabb | 22 people on #utah |
| 06:05.12 | emcnabb | that's a lot |
| 06:05.22 | emcnabb | and stuart isn't even here :-) |
| 06:05.25 | spr5 | not like I got anything better to do. Besides homework |
| 06:05.49 | emcnabb | yeah, I should probably stop flunking my classes before I chat |
| 06:06.05 | emcnabb | spr5, we need to initate you |
| 06:06.08 | emcnabb | ~lart spr5 |
| 06:06.18 | emcnabb | ~lart spr5 |
| 06:06.25 | emcnabb | ~lart spr5 |
| 06:06.32 | spr5 | ~lart emcnabb |
| 06:06.35 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap spr5 |
| 06:06.38 | | ACTION slaps spr5 upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 06:06.43 | emcnabb | done :-) |
| 06:06.47 | art | just so you know there really aren't many judo chops. |
| 06:06.54 | synic | *sigh* |
| 06:07.00 | synic | :) |
| 06:07.01 | emcnabb | ~lart art |
| 06:07.08 | art | I competed in judo when I was a kid. |
| 06:07.08 | emcnabb | ~lart synic |
| 06:07.16 | art | state champ 4 years running. |
| 06:07.28 | emcnabb | really? |
| 06:07.36 | art | it's a martial art more like wrestling than anything else. |
| 06:07.39 | emcnabb | art, you are a man of many talents |
| 06:07.41 | art | lots of throws. |
| 06:07.46 | art | lots of hold-downs. |
| 06:08.08 | Jayce^ | that's why I never got along with judo.. |
| 06:08.11 | synic | hrmm, so I found the i8042 module in the 2.6 kernel. In order to get apm suspend to work on, I have to build it as a module and add it to the apm scripts so that it unloads before suspend and reloads after suspend. |
| 06:08.17 | synic | kinda scary since it's the keyboard driver |
| 06:08.21 | emcnabb | ibot, will you please beat up Art? |
| 06:08.23 | | emcnabb: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 06:08.33 | art | the only difference is that you have to hold your opponent down for 60 seconds to win. |
| 06:08.44 | garpert | Jayce can you help with mason |
| 06:08.52 | art | we called it the "man's" wrestling. |
| 06:09.47 | Jayce^ | garpert, you get any more info on what it's doing? |
| 06:13.27 | emcnabb | man, the ASM people aren't given us much info about the installfest this weekend |
| 06:14.05 | spr5 | I'm in it for the pizza. There is pizza, right? |
| 06:14.18 | emcnabb | I think so |
| 06:14.34 | art | is it this weekend? |
| 06:14.45 | art | yeah the ASM is an interesting group. |
| 06:14.57 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 06:15.22 | emcnabb | I sent him an e-mail tell him to fill us in more or we wouldn't be there |
| 06:15.54 | emcnabb | art, sometime I'll have to tell you about my reputation in BYUSA |
| 06:16.19 | emcnabb | club presidents stop me in random places and say "hey, youre the Unix Users Group president" |
| 06:16.24 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 06:16.34 | art | that used to happen to me too. |
| 06:16.35 | garpert | no that seem to be okay you know much about mason |
| 06:16.47 | art | man I made some people really pissed off there. |
| 06:16.50 | emcnabb | last meeting I brought earplugs |
| 06:16.56 | art | probably not as much as you do |
| 06:17.12 | emcnabb | the high point was the banquet though |
| 06:17.17 | art | really. |
| 06:17.27 | emcnabb | oh yeah |
| 06:17.28 | art | what happened? |
| 06:17.46 | emcnabb | I got up in front of 150-200 presidents and argued for 10 minutes with them |
| 06:17.55 | art | sweet! |
| 06:17.57 | garpert | how can i make sure mod_perl is Loaded |
| 06:18.04 | art | man I wished I could have been there. |
| 06:18.14 | emcnabb | people came up to me afterwards and gave me high fives and asked for me to help them install Linux on their machines |
| 06:18.19 | jakea | lol |
| 06:18.25 | jakea | way to go evan |
| 06:18.42 | art | awsome. |
| 06:18.42 | Jayce^ | garpert, well, if you have any mod_perl commands in your httpd.conf, when you restart apache, it'll choke if it's not installed |
| 06:18.52 | emcnabb | I told them to stop using religion to stop pushing their personal agena |
| 06:18.55 | emcnabb | agenda |
| 06:19.03 | art | that's awsome. |
| 06:19.17 | art | and I totally agree. |
| 06:19.39 | art | hey how do you do that? |
| 06:19.44 | jakea | what.... do they expect us to make "Mormon Linux" |
| 06:19.49 | art | *art wonders |
| 06:19.57 | art | * that thingy |
| 06:20.00 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 06:20.04 | art | that |
| 06:20.05 | garpert | re start okay |
| 06:20.06 | art | *that |
| 06:20.11 | Jayce^ | art, do /me then your statement |
| 06:20.51 | Bradipo | :-) |
| 06:20.53 | jakea | oh, that is not what I was wondering |
| 06:21.00 | art | thanks Bradipo |
| 06:21.17 | art | hey has anyone ever watched Reno911? on comedy central? |
| 06:21.22 | emcnabb | yeah, they have actually stopped bothering me about scheduling |
| 06:21.43 | jakea | art: Ya, funny, when it's not crude |
| 06:21.53 | emcnabb | jakea, the BYUSA leaders get scholarships and get paid |
| 06:22.11 | jakea | say wa? |
| 06:22.15 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 06:22.15 | garpert | when installing mason its asking me for path to httpd what where just the httpd.conf or the httpd.pid |
| 06:22.27 | art | BYUSA's personal agenda is to promote their little peons (sp?) so they can get into the Marriot school of buisness so they can be even works PITA. |
| 06:22.35 | Jayce^ | garpert, no, your httpd binary |
| 06:22.37 | emcnabb | art, exactly |
| 06:22.50 | art | so they have all this crap leadership stuff, that doesn't even mean anything. |
| 06:23.04 | art | it's just *practice* |
| 06:23.06 | jakea | yeesh |
| 06:23.06 | Jayce^ | garpert, I'd really recommend the new oreilly mod_perl book if you want to install mod_perl 2... |
| 06:23.09 | emcnabb | oh, this year is cheesier than ever |
| 06:23.20 | art | so they can be good bishops, stake presidents, and business leaders. |
| 06:23.39 | jakea | I find leadership abilities is more of a personality trait than anything else |
| 06:23.51 | art | 'cause the only reason we go to BYU is so we can be leaders in the church. |
| 06:24.04 | spr5 | I think leadership can be developed. But most people don't learn it right. |
| 06:24.11 | jakea | and that doesn't make any sense to me |
| 06:24.19 | emcnabb | at the banquet I ripped on all their dumb motivational speakers that we have listen to; after the question and answer session the had a motivational speaker; I felt bad; he refered to me about 10 times in his talk |
| 06:24.37 | jakea | from what I understand, you are not supposed to "train yourself to be called to a high profile calling" |
| 06:24.38 | Jayce^ | IRC is the universal soapbox |
| 06:24.53 | emcnabb | and a place to lart people |
| 06:24.56 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 06:25.00 | Jayce^ | ~lart emcnabb |
| 06:25.07 | spr5 | ~lart emcnabb |
| 06:25.10 | garpert | not the way i learn |
| 06:25.40 | jakea | are you and art bad motivators evan? |
| 06:26.02 | art | I don't motivate anyone. |
| 06:26.05 | art | I don't care. |
| 06:26.06 | jakea | cause yeesh, the BYU UUG is just bad. Nothing goes on... nothing is planned... |
| 06:26.11 | jakea | ;) |
| 06:26.15 | art | if you want to do stuff then do it. |
| 06:26.23 | art | I'll facilitate it. |
| 06:26.30 | art | maybe direct it. |
| 06:26.36 | Bradipo | Hard to support a UUG and attend the Y I'm sure. :-) |
| 06:26.37 | art | but whatever. |
| 06:26.45 | art | it's not bad. |
| 06:26.58 | art | anyway I'm outta here. |
| 06:27.05 | art | I'm gonna go work on some music. |
| 06:27.07 | art | seeya. |
| 06:27.08 | jakea | sounds to me that another word for BYUSA is pride, but that's just my observation |
| 06:27.16 | spr5 | I like the UUG, it's the only time I can use "computer speak" and not scare my room-mates |
| 06:27.26 | jakea | heh |
| 06:27.50 | garpert | i have nothing in the semaphone arrays |
| 06:28.53 | spr5 | night all. |
| 06:29.32 | Bradipo | Not midnight? |
| 06:29.47 | Bradipo | When I registered for classes it was always at midnight... |
| 06:29.55 | Bradipo | If I waited until 6 they were all full by then. |
| 06:36.48 | jakea | does registration start tonight? |
| 06:55.40 | emcnabb | how do you register a username with freenode? |
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| 07:17.19 | tensai_ | emcnabb: /msg nickserv help |
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| 07:42.14 | emcnabb | what are memos? |
| 07:42.28 | art | in relation to what? |
| 07:42.37 | emcnabb | IRC |
| 07:42.42 | emcnabb | -MemoServ- You have no new memos |
| 07:42.50 | emcnabb | that's what it says when I log in now |
| 07:42.55 | emcnabb | just curious |
| 07:43.25 | art | hmm. I don't know. |
| 07:44.38 | art | hey does anyone know when XFree86 is going to support *real* transparency? |
| 07:45.06 | emcnabb | XFree86 is pretty dead (in my opinion) |
| 07:45.27 | emcnabb | night all |
| 07:45.35 | Bradipo | What alternatives are there? |
| 07:45.44 | emcnabb | that's about it |
| 07:45.53 | emcnabb | it's always forking but nothing happens |
| 07:45.55 | Bradipo | I can leave memos for you. |
| 07:46.06 | emcnabb | cool, how do you do that? |
| 07:46.09 | Bradipo | If you are not in IRC but I have something I want to tell you before I forget. |
| 07:46.09 | art | Xovert is supposed to be an alternative. |
| 07:46.22 | Bradipo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.28 | emcnabb | haha |
| 07:46.29 | emcnabb | ok |
| 07:47.24 | Bradipo | You should have just got an alert... |
| 07:48.10 | Bradipo | Kind of cool, but I don't know anyone that actually uses it. |
| 07:50.00 | emcnabb | I just sent you a memo |
| 07:50.10 | emcnabb | I got yours |
| 07:50.12 | emcnabb | to me |
| 07:50.48 | emcnabb | night for real :-) |
| 07:50.50 | emcnabb | later |
| 07:51.35 | art | night |
| 07:51.42 | art | I'm off too (again). |
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| 14:12.16 | hans | man, it's getting to where you can't read the backlog |
| 14:14.35 | Mecworks | "Former Caldera CEO Ransom Love joins Progeny board" |
| 14:14.43 | Mecworks | http://www.newsforge.com/business/03/11/11/0333248.shtml?tid=111&tid=139&tid=2&tid=82&tid=85&tid=94 |
| 14:15.07 | Mecworks | 'Ian Murdock says they went after Ransom, not the other way around. "We asked him," Ian adds with a small laugh, "but he was more than willing."' |
| 14:15.59 | hans | http://www.lionstracs.com/index.php?module=Static_Docs&func=view <--- Now that's cool :) |
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| 14:30.43 | hans | art: http://www.lionstracs.com/index.php?module=Static_Docs&func=view |
| 14:32.51 | Hanuman_ | anyone here submitted a successful /. post |
| 14:35.18 | Hanuman | man - this place is active in the evenings! |
| 14:39.01 | Hanuman | I think everyone's sleeping in from last night's discussion |
| 14:42.19 | hans | man, you just got to let it flow. You have to reach zen with /., until you're to the point that you don't care whether /. accepts your posts. When you realize there is no /. you will awake to find them slashdotting your website. |
| 14:45.26 | Hanuman | or become Bhuddist |
| 14:45.48 | hans | Hanuman: and/or read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance |
| 14:46.00 | Hanuman | Actually, I've had an article pending for an entire day and I'm wondering if that's a good thing |
| 14:46.27 | Hanuman | Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance - that would be interesting. |
| 14:46.45 | Hanuman | It's about my sending to AOL woes |
| 14:47.10 | Hanuman | and the fact that they do not accept smtp requests from dynamic IPs |
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| 14:58.08 | Hanuman | is it possible to train ibot to greet you when you enter the room? |
| 15:03.52 | hans | Hanuman: sure, just join as root |
| 15:04.09 | Hanuman | lol |
| 15:06.28 | emcnabb | I'm on Groklaw :-) |
| 15:11.43 | hans | i need a video card to put on my wishlist. cheap, but will do bzflag and flightgear at 1280x1024 24-bit color |
| 15:11.48 | hans | is 32 megs ram enough for that? |
| 15:17.18 | emcnabb | I have 5 modpoints on Slashdot if someone here posts something good... |
| 15:18.12 | Jayce^ | hans, yeah |
| 15:18.49 | Jayce^ | hans, I have one or two you might be interested in |
| 15:21.13 | emcnabb | I'm going to get flamed for doing this, but it's a funny joke... |
| 15:21.16 | emcnabb | When his eyes began to give him trouble, a man went to a ophthalmologist |
| 15:21.20 | emcnabb | in Prague. |
| 15:21.20 | emcnabb | The doctor showed the patient the eye chart, displaying the letters |
| 15:21.20 | emcnabb | CVKPNWXSCZ. |
| 15:21.20 | emcnabb | "Can you read that?" the doctor asked. |
| 15:21.24 | emcnabb | "Can I read it?" the Czech replied. "I dated his sister!" |
| 15:22.00 | Hanuman | lol - my cousin served in Czech republic - I'll have to send that to him |
| 15:22.53 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 15:23.59 | Hanuman | emcnabb: is it just groklaw.com? |
| 15:24.04 | emcnabb | .net |
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| 15:24.20 | emcnabb | SCO has now told what the offending files are |
| 15:24.23 | Hanuman | I think .com works, too |
| 15:25.03 | emcnabb | oh yeah, I guess that when they moved to ibiblio they had to move the main one to .net but .com still redirects |
| 15:25.51 | Hanuman | so, emcnabb - you going to law school now after all this SCO thing? |
| 15:26.10 | emcnabb | nope :-) |
| 15:26.44 | emcnabb | Frank Sorenson is my boss and one of the biggest anti-SCO people in Utah |
| 15:27.04 | emcnabb | he gets court docs every week and sends them to PJ (at groklaw) |
| 15:27.06 | Hanuman | My dad works with lawyers every day in his job - most people that work for him have law degrees, but he's learned enough to not even need one |
| 15:27.09 | Hanuman | emcnabb: cool |
| 15:27.24 | Hanuman | (he does tax) |
| 15:27.28 | emcnabb | oh, ok |
| 15:28.00 | Hanuman | it's funny - I go to him for advice on the contracts I negotiate for my freelance work |
| 15:28.09 | emcnabb | that's a good idea |
| 15:28.32 | emcnabb | how much does it usually cost to hire a lawyer to make a contract like that? |
| 15:28.54 | Hanuman | I'm not sure - haven't looked into it yet, but I'd imagine $50-$100/hour |
| 15:28.59 | emcnabb | wow |
| 15:29.05 | Hanuman | I'm guessing |
| 15:29.11 | emcnabb | that sounds about right |
| 15:29.33 | Hanuman | usually the best way is to present them with your own contract, and let them edit away |
| 15:29.51 | Hanuman | emcnabb: have a good shower |
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| 15:30.40 | Hanuman | in the case of this client, he presented me with a contract already edited by his lawyers that was very one-sided, and did not give me much protection at all. My dad and I pretty much rewrote it to make sure I get the money I deserve. |
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| 15:51.47 | hans | is it just me, or is newegg's wishlist system seriously broken? |
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| 15:52.09 | hans | for one thing I can't even find how to see someone's wishlist |
| 15:52.25 | emcnabb | ./back |
| 15:53.05 | Jayce^ | hans, I have a "spare" 16mb tnt2 vanta with tv out, and a 32mb tnt2.... |
| 15:53.21 | Hanuman | emcnabb: is there a way to have it say to the group when you have switched your status to "away"? |
| 15:53.49 | emcnabb | in gaim? |
| 15:54.10 | Hanuman | in irssi |
| 15:54.14 | emcnabb | ihum |
| 15:54.22 | hans | how much? |
| 15:54.22 | Hanuman | so I guess it depends on the client, eh? |
| 15:54.34 | emcnabb | I just learned how to do /away message and /back |
| 15:54.40 | emcnabb | I'm still a newbie :-) |
| 15:54.41 | hans | Hanuman: say something directly to me |
| 15:54.54 | Hanuman | hans: ok, ok - something |
| 15:55.00 | emcnabb | hans, hey hans!!!!! |
| 15:55.08 | emcnabb | hans, we love hans!!!!! |
| 15:55.09 | hans | did you see an indication that I was away? |
| 15:55.34 | Hanuman | hans: in irssi can you force it to tell the group you're away when you set /away "message"? |
| 15:55.51 | hans | i take that as a no? |
| 15:56.07 | Hanuman | yes |
| 15:56.14 | Hanuman | yes no |
| 15:56.19 | hans | yes, what? who's on first? |
| 15:56.33 | Hanuman | third base! |
| 15:56.50 | emcnabb | what's on second |
| 15:56.58 | emcnabb | I don't know is on third |
| 15:57.26 | Hanuman | who's on third |
| 15:58.02 | emcnabb | I don't know |
| 15:59.39 | Hanuman | ibot, who's on third |
| 15:59.40 | | no idea, Hanuman |
| 16:00.10 | Hanuman | poor ibot |
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| 16:00.23 | hans | isn't no idea the catcher? |
| 16:00.28 | hans | ~who |
| 16:00.29 | | This bot was generated by a Barrel of Trained Elephants for hans . |
| 16:00.58 | emcnabb | wait, isn't Barrel of Trained Elephants the pitcher? |
| 16:01.09 | Jayce^ | today is pitching, tomorrow is catching |
| 16:01.38 | Jayce^ | I don't care is short stop |
| 16:01.43 | Jayce^ | I forget the outfield |
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| 16:02.30 | Jayce^ | I've got the audio and video clips of its |
| 16:03.00 | hans | fugalh, hello |
| 16:03.06 | hans | fugalh: are you away? |
| 16:03.20 | fugalh | hans: yup |
| 16:03.26 | emcnabb | there are two Hans Fugals!!!! |
| 16:03.37 | emcnabb | ahahahhahahhaha!!!! |
| 16:04.25 | fugalh | and pray tell how do you note that? |
| 16:04.37 | Hanuman | hans: so how many screen sessions do you have open for IRC in #utah? |
| 16:04.45 | Jayce^ | well, in xchat, your names are all grayed out |
| 16:05.04 | fugalh | i'm in xchat, and I see nobody as greyed out |
| 16:05.12 | Hanuman | I used to be away |
| 16:05.15 | Jayce^ | Hanuman, types /away and see what it says |
| 16:05.26 | fugalh | --- [Hanuman] is away ("home again, home again...") |
| 16:05.38 | Jayce^ | you haven't come back.. |
| 16:05.49 | Hanuman | I should be marked as away now - but not before |
| 16:06.13 | Jayce^ | just try doing the /away |
| 16:06.27 | Hanuman | I just did that and put myself in away status |
| 16:06.31 | Hanuman | now I'll take myself out |
| 16:06.39 | Hanuman | now I shouldn't be away |
| 16:06.44 | Jayce^ | nope, still are |
| 16:06.50 | Hanuman | not according to irssi |
| 16:07.02 | Hanuman | there's no zZzZzZ in my console |
| 16:07.28 | Hanuman | weird |
| 16:07.40 | fugalh | i see you as not away now |
| 16:07.43 | Jayce^ | you are back now |
| 16:08.02 | Hanuman | I was out of away before, too - weird. |
| 16:08.04 | fugalh | Hanuman: try talking to one of me with msg |
| 16:08.29 | fugalh | Jayce^: so what version of xchat are you running? |
| 16:09.02 | emcnabb | I'm grayed out |
| 16:09.21 | Jayce^ | 2.0.4 |
| 16:09.33 | emcnabb | that's what I'm running |
| 16:09.40 | emcnabb | time to get some work done |
| 16:13.48 | synic|home | Jayce^: yeah, sorry for brining that guy in here yesterday. I automatically assumed that he had already read up on it a little, and I don't know a thing about mod_perl |
| 16:14.17 | Jayce^ | hehe.. yeah he didn't have anything.. |
| 16:19.32 | Jayce^ | it was a feature in the 1.x branch. |
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| 16:22.15 | levi | Good morning. |
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| 16:31.06 | bonez39 | hans, you are bold.on my screen...bright white instead of gray |
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| 16:54.08 | hans | and now? |
| 16:55.20 | Jayce^ | heh. |
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| 17:10.06 | Jayce^ | he comes, just because sjansen say's he wouldn't :) |
| 17:10.28 | mhalcrow | Take that, Stuart!! |
| 17:11.21 | emcnabb | ~lart mhalcrow |
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| 17:11.26 | emcnabb | ~lart mhalcrow |
| 17:11.31 | emcnabb | ~lart mhalcrow |
| 17:11.42 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap mhalcrow |
| 17:11.45 | | ACTION slaps mhalcrow upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 17:12.08 | Jayce^ | ~insult emcnabb |
| 17:12.13 | Jayce^ | not sure if he turned that one off |
| 17:12.22 | emcnabb | haha, I win! |
| 17:12.22 | Jayce^ | guess so |
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| 17:15.55 | emcnabb | mhalcrow, you can't stay away, can you? |
| 17:16.44 | mhalcrow | My connection was ``reset by peer'' after installing PocketPC on my PDA..... |
| 17:17.10 | mhalcrow | :-/ |
| 17:17.57 | Jayce^ | why dont' you throw one of those this way for us to play with :) |
| 17:18.11 | emcnabb | please? |
| 17:18.22 | mhalcrow | I had to kill a man with my bare hands just to get a login on that machine... |
| 17:20.05 | mhalcrow | <trivia>OS/2 Warp runs the terminal front-end to the machine</trivia> |
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| 17:20.39 | jsmith | Morning all... just thought I'd jump in and say hi... |
| 17:20.52 | emcnabb | jsmith, well hello |
| 17:21.22 | mhalcrow | Greetings. |
| 17:21.24 | jsmith | Meetings still on the third Wednesday of the month? |
| 17:21.29 | Jayce^ | for sllug |
| 17:21.31 | jsmith | Jayce^: Go ahead... |
| 17:21.32 | Jayce^ | plug is the second |
| 17:21.34 | jsmith | Yes, for sllug |
| 17:21.43 | Jayce^ | sllug is the third |
| 17:21.51 | jsmith | Ohh... there are several LUGs in here... |
| 17:22.38 | jsmith | Jayce^: So, what's the joke?!? |
| 17:23.07 | Jayce^ | I knew we were church sponsored :) |
| 17:23.54 | Jayce^ | jsmith, yeah, several lug's/user groups.. some aren't lugs.. |
| 17:24.35 | mhalcrow | Although they should be... |
| 17:24.42 | emcnabb | haha |
| 17:24.48 | emcnabb | yes, that has come up several times |
| 17:24.57 | mhalcrow | :-) |
| 17:25.26 | Jayce^ | mhalcrow, well, on bsd group, a php group, among others.. |
| 17:29.59 | jsmith | Jayce^: Well, all I can say is that yes, my last name is Smith, and yes, I'm related to all the other Smith's in Utah... |
| 17:30.40 | mhalcrow | A Smith.... |
| 17:30.57 | emcnabb | unison rocks |
| 17:31.33 | mhalcrow | Gotta go. It's getting crazy with this z900 box. :-) |
| 17:48.13 | hans | great, another BX user |
| 17:49.41 | emcnabb | I'll stick with Xchat |
| 17:50.02 | hans | and I with irssi |
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| 19:09.07 | Hanuman | We have a Sister Smith and Sister Jones as companions in our Ward here in VA |
| 19:11.10 | hans | success. hearnet is alive |
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| 19:19.31 | Hanuman | anyone know of any good family cell-plans? |
| 19:19.41 | Hanuman | w/ free long-distance |
| 19:43.05 | hans | http://falcon.fugal.net/~fugalh/hearnet/ |
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| 19:48.05 | Oberon | I'm having trouble with codecs... |
| 19:49.33 | jsmith | Oberon: What kind of codecs? |
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| 19:50.02 | Oberon | well, I know nothing about them really, but I'm trying to watch The Tick, it's an mpeg |
| 19:50.14 | Oberon | scratch that, it's an avi |
| 19:50.45 | jsmith | And you're trying to watch it under which OS? |
| 19:50.57 | Oberon | XP |
| 19:51.19 | Hanuman | Oberon: what program are you watching it in? |
| 19:51.35 | jsmith | Hmmmmn... it seems like the latest Windows Media Mangler (oh, I mean Player) will automagically try to download the right codec... |
| 19:51.35 | Oberon | windows media player |
| 19:51.37 | Oberon | and winamp |
| 19:51.41 | Oberon | yeah, it tries |
| 19:51.44 | Oberon | and then gives up |
| 19:52.09 | jsmith | It seems like the .avi codec comes from Intel... but I could be terribly wrong |
| 19:52.32 | Hanuman | Oberon: try it in Quicktime - avi is a Macintosh format |
| 19:52.39 | Oberon | they're both playing it like an audio file |
| 19:52.41 | Oberon | mmkay |
| 19:52.54 | Hanuman | Do you know what codec it was encoded in? |
| 19:53.12 | Oberon | no clue |
| 19:53.15 | Oberon | is there a way to find out? |
| 19:54.02 | Hanuman | where did you get the avi from? |
| 19:54.15 | Oberon | and quicktime isn't liking it any better than the other two were |
| 19:54.18 | Oberon | kazaa |
| 19:55.16 | Hanuman | good luck then - the only way to know how to play it is to find out what codec it was encoded with and install that codec |
| 19:55.30 | Hanuman | You could always try to see if divx works |
| 19:55.31 | Oberon | and there's no way to tell from the file itself then? |
| 19:55.39 | Oberon | and what's divx? |
| 19:55.42 | Hanuman | not that I know of but I'm no expert |
| 19:55.51 | Hanuman | divx is another codec |
| 19:55.56 | Oberon | k |
| 19:56.01 | Hanuman | look it up on google - can't remember the website |
| 19:56.08 | jsmith | divx is another codec... If you download a Divx codec pack, you usually get all the other goodies thrown in for free |
| 19:56.21 | Oberon | k cool |
| 19:56.59 | Oberon | is there any drawback to installing a huge number of codecs on my system and hoping that one of them will be the right one? |
| 19:57.56 | jsmith | Not really... but watch out for virus and spyware problems.... |
| 19:58.13 | Oberon | noted, thanks |
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| 20:01.36 | Dlugar | question: in mysql, you use "desc tablename" to get the names of the rows. in postgresql, you use "\d tablename". The first works when querying mysql from PHP, but the second doesn't work when querying pgsql from PHP. Any ideas? |
| 20:02.20 | tensai | FYI, avi is an MS invention. It's a generic media container. Which codec is used is actually embedded in the file, although I don't know the details. |
| 20:02.38 | tensai | Oberon: if you got it off Kazaa then it probably is divx (which is an mpeg4 codec IIRC) |
| 20:02.50 | tensai | Dlugar: you want to list table names from php? |
| 20:03.06 | Dlugar | tensai: right. |
| 20:03.13 | Dlugar | what was the avi question? |
| 20:03.18 | Oberon | tensai: thanks |
| 20:03.30 | Dlugar | or did you figure it out? |
| 20:04.01 | Oberon | probably |
| 20:04.09 | Oberon | I've got an avi that I can't find a codec for |
| 20:04.18 | Dlugar | what does mplayer tell you? |
| 20:04.25 | Dlugar | it usually says the dll needed. |
| 20:04.28 | Oberon | I'm going to install divx and see if it helps. |
| 20:04.29 | Hanuman | isn't it \dt in Postgres? |
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| 20:04.57 | Oberon | mplayer doesn't give an error, it just plays it as an audio file. |
| 20:04.58 | Dlugar | hanuman: yes, but that doesn't work as a pg_query() statement from PHP. |
| 20:05.23 | Dlugar | are you sure there's no error message spitting out before it plays it as an audio file? |
| 20:05.36 | Oberon | it showed one the first time, but not any more. |
| 20:05.37 | Dlugar | something like: Video codec unknown, blah blah blah? |
| 20:05.43 | Dlugar | weird. |
| 20:05.48 | Oberon | yep, it said that |
| 20:05.57 | Dlugar | but it doesn't say that any more? |
| 20:06.07 | Oberon | nope |
| 20:06.30 | tensai | Dlugar: he's using Windows Media Player, not mplayer. |
| 20:06.44 | Dlugar | oh, I gotcha. you're on windows? |
| 20:07.01 | Oberon | yes, sadly |
| 20:07.15 | Dlugar | I guess we both made a *** out of u and me :-) |
| 20:07.21 | Oberon | yep ;) |
| 20:07.43 | Dlugar | heh, anyway, yeah, I'd try divx first. |
| 20:08.08 | Dlugar | if it's not "sensitive" content (or really big) you could send a copy to me and I'd tell you what it was using mplayer. |
| 20:08.20 | Oberon | it's just the tick |
| 20:08.41 | Oberon | but I don't know if you want to wait for the whole episode, it's about 20 minutes long |
| 20:08.53 | Dlugar | yeah, if it's ending in .avi, I'm sure it's divx. did you try installing it yet? |
| 20:09.10 | Oberon | not yet, I'm looking on google to see if I can get a free copy |
| 20:09.46 | Dlugar | http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX51Bundle.exe |
| 20:09.53 | Dlugar | I think that's it? |
| 20:09.53 | Oberon | ugh. "divx free" is a query you probably want to avoid. |
| 20:10.09 | Oberon | looks like it |
| 20:11.56 | Dlugar | Have fun rebooting ten times when you install it ;-) |
| 20:12.04 | Oberon | it didn't ask me to, actually |
| 20:12.13 | Dlugar | oh really? heh. cool :-) |
| 20:12.20 | Dlugar | That's surprising, actually. |
| 20:12.31 | Oberon | wooo, it's working! |
| 20:12.35 | tensai | Dlugar: try this: select tablename from pg_tables where tablename not like 'pg\_%' |
| 20:12.47 | Oberon | man, I forgot how big that guy is. |
| 20:13.14 | Dlugar | ERROR: Attribute "tablename" not found. |
| 20:14.10 | Dlugar | hm, wait, |
| 20:14.28 | Dlugar | do you mean do that literally or put in the table's name I want to find where it says "tablename"? |
| 20:14.41 | Dlugar | doing that literally gets me a list of all the tables, |
| 20:14.45 | Dlugar | but not the columns of a particular table. |
| 20:15.36 | tensai | ok. for columns, use pg_meta_data |
| 20:15.43 | tensai | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.pg-meta-data.php |
| 20:16.07 | Dlugar | k, thanks. I'll try that. |
| 20:21.27 | Dlugar | it works! thanks tensai. :-) |
| 20:46.00 | Hanuman | I HATE MICROSFT!!!!! |
| 20:46.05 | Hanuman | ~lart Microsoft |
| 20:47.27 | jsmith | Hanuman: I think your sentiment is probably shared by several of the people in the channel |
| 20:47.27 | Hanuman | is there anything that works with M$ Exchange under Windows other than Outlook? |
| 20:48.59 | tensai | I've moved some of my users over to Mozilla Thunderbird using IMAP with good success |
| 20:49.22 | tensai | but server side calendaring, out of office, server side filters, etc. don't work |
| 20:49.38 | tensai | that was acceptable in those situations, tho |
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| 20:50.07 | Hanuman | yeah - I was having problems with M$ Access, so decided to uninstall Office and reinstall - now it just freezes in the middle of install |
| 20:50.27 | Hanuman | So now while I wait to see if it's actually frozen or being really slow I can't access my e-mail |
| 20:50.44 | Hanuman | I'll try Thunderbird or mozillamail |
| 21:40.16 | neybar | hans: hearnet is cool |
| 22:01.44 | Jayce^ | I can't believe I'm about to say this..... |
| 22:01.48 | Jayce^ | I need more spam |
| 22:02.01 | Jayce^ | training my bayes, and I've deleted all my old stuff |
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| 22:07.40 | mhalcrow | Are non-Utahns allowed in here? |
| 22:08.02 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 22:10.45 | Dlugar | can't remember if I asked this before ... |
| 22:11.04 | Dlugar | pg_connect and the other postgres functions work through apache, but not using the command line. |
| 22:11.17 | Dlugar | I think the story is that they use two different binaries, |
| 22:11.25 | Dlugar | but how do I get the command-line version to talk to pgsql? |
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| 22:43.30 | mhalcrow | Underdown? |
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| 22:52.38 | Jayce^ | rock on! |
| 22:52.49 | Jayce^ | Plug now will be meeting in the Canopy buildings! |
| 22:52.51 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 22:53.03 | mhalcrow | The ALG has it better... |
| 22:53.23 | mhalcrow | They get to meet on IBM's campus. :-) |
| 22:53.35 | Jayce^ | I just enjoy the irony of it |
| 22:53.45 | mhalcrow | Ahh |
| 22:57.23 | Bradipo | Which Canopy building? |
| 22:59.27 | Jayce^ | 1 |
| 22:59.31 | Jayce^ | the center 7 one.. |
| 22:59.36 | Jayce^ | via west is sponsoring us |
| 22:59.46 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 22:59.53 | Bradipo | Sponsoring in what way? |
| 23:00.05 | Jayce^ | starting with just making sure we have the room available.. |
| 23:00.17 | Jayce^ | this week, it'll be their small room, (same size as cedo).. |
| 23:00.20 | Bradipo | Cool, that's one building away from SCO. ;-) |
| 23:00.28 | Jayce^ | but after this week, we're supposed to have access to the big one.. |
| 23:00.33 | Jayce^ | yeah, as I said.. I savor the irony |
| 23:00.37 | Bradipo | Right. |
| 23:01.21 | Jayce^ | just had a big meeting with novell ( and Mecworks, neybar, emcnabb).. the groups have some good stuff coming up.. |
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| 23:17.41 | hans | Jayce^: you can't hear hearnet? |
| 23:17.50 | hans | did you ever get sound working again? |
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| 23:23.03 | hans | a simple granular synthesizer driven by your incoming network traffic. |
| 23:23.17 | hans | http://falcon.fugal.net/~fugalh/hearnet/ (unless you're on BYU's network) |
| 23:23.35 | jsmith | Aha... so when some jerk starts to flood-ping my box, I'll hear it?!? |
| 23:23.44 | hans | yup :) |
| 23:23.59 | hans | you can hear your downloads. web traffic is perhaps the most interesting |
| 23:24.06 | hans | you can make out the page and the images. pretty cool |
| 23:24.18 | jsmith | Interesting... I prefer a visual indication myself... but hey, it's an interesting idea |
| 23:24.30 | art | that's awsome dude. |
| 23:24.40 | hans | ~slashdot |
| 23:24.54 | hans | I've been doing #1 for quite a long time now. |
| 23:25.03 | jsmith | You're not the only one... |
| 23:25.25 | jsmith | I'm not doing it with my *entire* home directory, but certain parts |
| 23:25.31 | jsmith | Such as notes, etc. |
| 23:25.33 | hans | well, ditto here |
| 23:25.34 | art | so do you just commit your home directory everytime you make a file change? |
| 23:25.49 | art | or can you make it more automatic? |
| 23:26.03 | jsmith | I just commit the changes after I make them... |
| 23:26.05 | hans | i actually make an etc directory and keep everything in there that I want in CVS |
| 23:26.23 | hans | then make symlinks for the dotfiles. e.g. ~/.bashrc -> ~/etc/bashrc |
| 23:27.03 | hans | some things (mutt and vim) I even have set up with systems to let me have local differences for behavior on different machines without polluting my CVS. :) |
| 23:27.16 | hans | thinking of extending it to bashrc/bash_profile too |
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