| 00:02.43 | *** join/#utah resplin (~richard@205.208.195.29) |
| 00:11.43 | emcnabb_ | hello richard |
| 00:22.22 | resplin | So this is where the gurus hang out, eh? |
| 00:23.01 | resplin | I hear that he who ascends the mountain gets to ask three questions of the gurus |
| 00:27.11 | emcnabb_ | This is Andrew. I haven't used IRC since I was in 8th grade. |
| 00:27.26 | emcnabb_ | I have a CS 465 question. |
| 00:27.40 | resplin | Why are you using even's nick? |
| 00:28.13 | emcnabb_ | Because I haven't used IRC in a long time and I don't feel like emerging xirc today (maybe I'll do it next week) |
| 00:28.26 | resplin | After Jayce^'s post and the last UUG meeting, I figured I'd give #utah a look |
| 00:28.40 | emcnabb_ | How are you liking it? |
| 00:28.40 | resplin | I'm using Gaim. |
| 00:28.50 | emcnabb_ | hmm |
| 00:29.10 | resplin | There doesn't seem to be much going on. |
| 00:29.15 | emcnabb_ | yep |
| 00:29.25 | resplin | I've been lurking to see haw the place works, but haven't figured it out yet. |
| 00:29.27 | resplin | :) |
| 00:29.33 | emcnabb_ | :) |
| 00:29.53 | emcnabb_ | Has anyone done the 465 lab using the safe prime method? |
| 00:30.09 | resplin | Here's a howto to use Gaim to do IRC: http://gc.firetrack.no-ip.org/IRC/clients/Gaim.html |
| 00:30.16 | resplin | I did it a couple of semesters ago. |
| 00:30.20 | emcnabb_ | I'll have to check that out. |
| 00:30.25 | resplin | What is your question? |
| 00:30.48 | emcnabb_ | There's a formula on the lab spec that doesn't quite look right to me, so I wanted to check with people. |
| 00:31.00 | resplin | Which formula? |
| 00:31.25 | emcnabb_ | It says that phi(phi(n))=(2-1)(r-1)(2)(s-1), but something about the (2-1) in a final formula looks fishy to me. |
| 00:31.54 | resplin | Are you generating primes for RSA? |
| 00:32.09 | emcnabb_ | Yep. |
| 00:33.36 | emcnabb_ | It doesn't look like I'm getting too much help so far. :) |
| 00:33.44 | emcnabb_ | I might just email Jason Holt. |
| 00:33.45 | resplin | I'm looking at my old source code. |
| 00:34.09 | emcnabb_ | Did you do it with safe primes or with Euclid's? |
| 00:34.44 | resplin | I did Euclid's with RSA, but safe primes with Diffie_helman. |
| 00:34.56 | emcnabb_ | hmm |
| 00:35.31 | resplin | Now I remember: |
| 00:35.34 | resplin | I was experimenting, and did my safe primes in Java. |
| 00:35.38 | emcnabb_ | :) |
| 00:35.50 | resplin | It was so slow that it took two hours and didn't complete, so I took the safe prime stuff out. |
| 00:35.55 | emcnabb_ | That sounds adventurous. |
| 00:35.57 | resplin | Let me see if the formula is still laying around. |
| 00:35.59 | emcnabb_ | Two hours? |
| 00:36.04 | emcnabb_ | That's Java for you. |
| 00:38.09 | resplin | It's been too long. I can't remember all of the modulus arithmetic stuff. I'd have to dig through my old notes (which are lost since I've moved since then). I don't think I'm going to be much help. Sorry. |
| 00:38.20 | emcnabb_ | ok. Well, thanks anyway. |
| 00:38.29 | resplin | Good luck. |
| 00:38.33 | emcnabb_ | Thanks. |
| 00:39.50 | resplin | Is anyone else listening in? ('bots need not answer) |
| 00:41.52 | resplin | Hmmmm. It doesn't look like either of us are going to get much help here today. |
| 00:53.48 | hans | saturday is usually quite slow |
| 00:53.57 | hans | this is the busiest saturday I've ever seen, I think |
| 00:54.09 | hans | andrew, where did you get that formula from? |
| 00:54.30 | hans | I used euclids algorithm and didn't bother to check for safeness (that's mostly useful for diffie-hellman) |
| 00:55.56 | resplin | When's it the busiest around these parts? |
| 00:56.18 | resplin | I didn't see much traffic yesterday eithre. |
| 00:56.31 | resplin | (I only started lurking on Thursday during the meeting) |
| 00:57.38 | hans | work hours, mostly, and late at night |
| 00:58.32 | resplin | Is this mostly a forum for asking programming questions (like a rapid response UUG), or do the topics range widely? |
| 00:59.07 | hans | it's just us. we ask eachother questions and we talk about useless stuff and we (often) ignore eachother |
| 00:59.25 | resplin | Are the conversations logged anywhere public? |
| 00:59.31 | hans | nah |
| 00:59.47 | hans | and if they were I'd be sad |
| 00:59.56 | resplin | Sad? |
| 01:00.20 | hans | wouldn't want employers and joe schmoe to see me at my silliest, angriest, or boringest |
| 01:00.39 | hans | that said, maybe ibot does archive stuff but I don't think TimRiker has put it anywhere public |
| 01:01.02 | hans | ibot, convert 10 miles to kilometers |
| 01:06.02 | resplin | I just ask because when I search Google for answers sometimes I come across logs from IRC conversations. They can be handy, and I don't know who does them. |
| 01:09.19 | hans | i would be no more comfortable to someone logging this channel as I would if we were all in the same workplace and someone logged it. Maybe on a channel with a specific purpose I'd feel differently. |
| 01:09.54 | hans | but that is a drawback - we often answer eachother's questions and the rest of the people on the lists who aren't here don't get the benefit of hearing the questions and answers. |
| 01:10.15 | hans | so when we're real generous we mock it up after the fact. :) |
| 01:10.35 | emcnabb_ | this is EVAN now |
| 01:10.52 | hans | emcnabb_: you need to teach your brother about /nick. ;-) |
| 01:12.36 | emcnabb_ | haha |
| 01:13.51 | hans_ | :-) |
| 01:15.07 | hans | heh |
| 01:15.22 | resplin | Now I'm confused. |
| 01:15.34 | hans | you can register your nick and if someone has it you can kick them off |
| 01:15.40 | hans | and claim it |
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| 01:15.50 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.10 | hans | emcnabb_: buahaha |
| 01:28.10 | emcnabb_ | I'm confused about who is who now |
| 01:28.19 | emcnabb | ok |
| 01:28.21 | emcnabb | that's better |
| 01:28.28 | resplin | I'm reading up on the history of Freenode. Pretty cool. |
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| 04:33.53 | emcnabb | that wasn't very nice richard |
| 04:34.02 | emcnabb | and you get mad that I warn you on gaim? |
| 04:42.19 | jakea | darn gaim warning people |
| 04:51.14 | emcnabb | <warn> |
| 04:53.50 | jakea | I have to send you a message first. HA HA HA HA HA!!! |
| 04:54.38 | emcnabb | <warn> |
| 04:54.52 | emcnabb | these are virtual warns |
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| 05:02.50 | jakea | hans! |
| 05:04.19 | emcnabb | jake! |
| 05:11.47 | jakea | emcnabb! |
| 05:11.51 | jakea | er |
| 05:11.52 | jakea | evan! |
| 05:24.02 | *** join/#utah bonez39 (~sanchiro@64.122.114.148) |
| 05:26.03 | bonez39 | anyone around? |
| 05:27.24 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 05:27.32 | bonez39 | cool.. |
| 05:27.51 | bonez39 | am trying to mount my zip drive...but having trouble...that and my cdrom too... |
| 05:28.57 | emcnabb | what's up? |
| 05:32.43 | bonez39 | well, perhaps more important is accessing shares between my linux box..and my windows machine... |
| 05:33.06 | bonez39 | I installed samba, swat and other tools..and yet, I can't seem to access one machine from the other |
| 05:33.17 | emcnabb | any firewalling going on? |
| 05:33.35 | bonez39 | windows network neighborhood shows this linux box, but presents a password that I can't figure out...to allow access..so I can't access it.. |
| 05:33.52 | bonez39 | both machines are just hooked togehter..ethernet, UTP through a hub |
| 05:34.34 | emcnabb | have you added smb users? |
| 05:34.45 | emcnabb | or how do you have your config setup? |
| 05:34.50 | bonez39 | haven't added anything to /etc/fstab.. |
| 05:35.10 | bonez39 | if I type 'mount /sethc' I get SMB failure messages |
| 05:35.37 | jakea | at least parts of it |
| 05:35.37 | bonez39 | ok.... |
| 05:35.52 | jakea | but ya, what evan said, have you made users? |
| 05:36.12 | bonez39 | is webmin something I install? |
| 05:36.24 | jakea | ya... maybe better not get too confusing |
| 05:36.25 | bonez39 | well, I went into swat and set up some shares..I think... |
| 05:36.32 | jakea | you have to have users |
| 05:36.35 | bonez39 | too confusing? I have no choice... |
| 05:36.36 | jakea | like mysql has users |
| 05:36.50 | jakea | different users than regular linux users |
| 05:37.02 | jakea | (at least that is what I have read) |
| 05:37.09 | bonez39 | oh, I see...am apt-getting webmin now |
| 05:37.23 | jakea | webmin is a cool tool |
| 05:37.37 | jakea | darn apt-get-ers |
| 05:37.42 | jakea | urpmi :D |
| 05:37.45 | bonez39 | ok..I install it.then just webmin from a prompt to load it? |
| 05:38.15 | jakea | go to a web browser |
| 05:38.35 | jakea | and... (evan, correct me if I am wrong...) |
| 05:38.49 | jakea | should be http://localhost:10000/ |
| 05:38.52 | bonez39 | load like swat loads up? |
| 05:38.59 | bonez39 | that's 10 thousand? |
| 05:39.05 | jakea | and log in with your root user |
| 05:39.12 | jakea | ya |
| 05:39.21 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 05:39.26 | jakea | oh, did apt-get start the thing? |
| 05:39.43 | bonez39 | jakea: apt-get did not, but it installed it |
| 05:40.21 | jakea | su to root |
| 05:40.26 | jakea | service webmin start |
| 05:40.40 | bonez39 | ok, webmin is up....running |
| 05:41.07 | jakea | now try the URL |
| 05:41.21 | jakea | I just turned mine on, it's the right URL |
| 05:41.23 | bonez39 | I have webmin running in my browser, in mozilla |
| 05:41.32 | jakea | log in as you would root |
| 05:42.12 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 05:42.13 | bonez39 | I am in.... |
| 05:42.24 | jakea | go to servers |
| 05:42.31 | jakea | find samba, go to that |
| 05:42.50 | jakea | scroll down, Edit Samba users and passwords. |
| 05:43.00 | jakea | do you have users defined? |
| 05:43.45 | jakea | if not, it should be like mine... |
| 05:43.52 | bonez39 | ok, hold on |
| 05:43.59 | jakea | "No Samba users defined" |
| 05:44.34 | bonez39 | I don't show anything for just servers..there is proxy server... |
| 05:44.36 | jakea | mine says that cause I don't use samba, so I have no users defined |
| 05:45.25 | jakea | in the servers tab, there should be an option (link) for: Samba Windows File Sharing |
| 05:46.08 | bonez39 | no servers have been registered.. |
| 05:46.16 | jakea | this is RH9? |
| 05:46.23 | bonez39 | no, running debian |
| 05:47.14 | jakea | well |
| 05:47.20 | jakea | back to your inital problem |
| 05:47.33 | jakea | if you have not defined samba users, then you need to |
| 05:47.53 | bonez39 | ok....can webmin help me do that? |
| 05:48.06 | jakea | from the looks of what I am seeing on mine, ya |
| 05:48.32 | jakea | it can add samba users with the same names as your regular users |
| 05:49.05 | bonez39 | ok....my webmin screen shows webmin actions log, webmin configuration, webmin servers index, and webmin users |
| 05:50.13 | jakea | I think you have to go to the server index and register all your servers |
| 05:50.16 | bonez39 | ok.... |
| 05:50.17 | jakea | ya... I remember doing that now |
| 05:50.35 | jakea | look what you've done, now I'm all interested in webmin again |
| 05:51.00 | jakea | I just made smb users using my webmin, so ya, it appears you can do it that way |
| 05:51.08 | bonez39 | hehe..I am lost though...not sure what all these things ask me to enter |
| 05:51.56 | bonez39 | I don't see ANYTHING ABOUT smb or samba in my webmin screens |
| 05:52.20 | jakea | I assume you know you have it installed |
| 05:52.38 | bonez39 | samba? |
| 05:52.44 | bonez39 | yeah, it's installed |
| 05:56.39 | jakea | uggg, there was something on here that "registered" all your servers (samba, apache, etc) that I remember doing, but since I've done that I can't find it... |
| 05:58.15 | bonez39 | hmmm ok |
| 05:58.49 | jakea | I'm now remembering how much I like webmin and wondering why I stopped using it |
| 05:59.26 | bonez39 | well, it needs to be made simpler... |
| 06:01.12 | jakea | try... webmin configureation --> Webmin modules |
| 06:04.07 | bonez39 | ok... |
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| 16:23.01 | hans | gag, webmin |
| 16:23.22 | hans | bonez39: if you want to use webmin to configure samba you need the webmin-samba package installed |
| 16:23.43 | hans | I don't see why the webmin folks have to make their own duehickey - why not just contribute to SWAT? |
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| 23:56.43 | bonez39 | hans? |
| 23:57.19 | bonez39 | I'd much rather use SWAT instead of Webmin...i'd simply rather use whatever tool I can to enable file and printer sharing on my LAN. |
| 23:59.30 | jakea | <hans> I don't see why the webmin folks have to make their own duehickey - why not just contribute to SWAT? |
| 23:59.33 | jakea | or you can say... |
| 23:59.55 | jakea | I don't see why the open source folks have to make their own duehickey - why not just use windows? |