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| 00:01.44 | HarleyPig | woops ... gotta be careful which window you type /quit in. |
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| 00:26.01 | Jayce^ | back in black? |
| 00:26.09 | HarleyPig | Oh thanks. |
| 00:27.00 | Jayce^ | http://www.comics.com/comics/hedge/archive/hedge-20031026.html |
| 00:27.07 | Jayce^ | just thinking of your HarleyPig |
| 00:27.46 | Jayce^ | :D |
| 00:27.50 | HarleyPig | :D |
| 00:27.59 | Jayce^ | just needs to be day-glo |
| 00:28.21 | HarleyPig | It's the 'fwip' that got me. |
| 00:28.55 | HarleyPig | It's not as bad without the thong! Why don't people realize that! |
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| 04:51.29 | brailsmt_ | anyone else disturbed by this? |
| 04:51.32 | brailsmt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.53 | brailsmt_ | as smart as outlook?!? |
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| 04:56.20 | tensai | Microsoft: "Our goals are so low, we can't possibly miss" |
| 04:57.43 | brailsmt_ | lol |
| 04:58.30 | brailsmt_ | ~slashdot |
| 05:24.55 | brailsmt_ | SCO calls the GPL unconstitutional |
| 05:47.49 | emcnabb | haha |
| 05:47.54 | emcnabb | did you read groklaw? |
| 05:51.38 | Jayce^ | looks like we have some fun dissertations coming out on plug :) |
| 05:54.12 | emcnabb | halcrow is such a smart guy |
| 05:54.31 | emcnabb | he's going to give me a tour of IBM's linux facilities next month when I'm in austin tx |
| 05:57.12 | Jayce^ | coo |
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| 13:53.22 | Mecworks | ~whaleslap SCO |
| 13:53.25 | | ACTION slaps SCO upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 13:58.52 | hans | hugh, so nice to see you again |
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| 14:44.39 | Hanuman_work | good morning |
| 14:51.43 | bonez39 | howdy, Hanuman |
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| 15:35.30 | Hanuman_work | Hey anyone know - if I can play audio cd's, but not data cds on my cdrom is it hosed? |
| 15:35.39 | Hanuman_work | Does the same thing in both Windows and Linux |
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| 15:38.14 | Jayce^ | any data cd? or just specific ones? |
| 15:38.30 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 15:39.07 | Hanuman_work | seems like any data cd |
| 15:39.14 | Hanuman_work | just started happening |
| 15:39.28 | Hanuman_work | and no, I haven't tried to install Mandrake 9.2 ;-) |
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| 16:50.25 | Jayce^ | http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/schemaball/ |
| 16:50.28 | Jayce^ | interesting |
| 17:34.38 | hans | cool |
| 17:35.05 | hans | Hanuman_work: sounds partially hosed to me |
| 17:35.07 | Jayce^ | take that and make it work for the gpg keys |
| 17:35.53 | Hanuman_work | I'm going to try and clean it, and if not, I think I've still got some sort of warranty on it - dang it. |
| 17:36.04 | Hanuman_work | That was a good CDR |
| 17:38.19 | neybar | anyone know umask? I am trying to set my mask so that files are created with rwxrwxr-- (775) I set my umask to be 002. When I create files though they are being set to rw-rw-r-- |
| 17:47.47 | neybar | I figured it out. umask 002 is supposed to create files with 665 |
| 17:55.43 | hans | neybar: so how do you get it to create files with 775? can you do that? |
| 17:56.15 | hans | I thought 666 was default, then umask applied |
| 17:56.26 | hans | but umask only restricts, right? |
| 17:57.06 | Jayce^ | hans, default depends on your distro |
| 17:57.22 | hans | not default umask |
| 17:57.27 | hans | default file creation permissions before umask |
| 17:57.46 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 18:03.12 | neybar | I found this little blurb: newly-created directories would have 744 permissions, obtained by subtracting 033 from 777. Newly-created files using the 033 umask would have permissions of 644. |
| 18:03.31 | neybar | so that mask will make your dir's executable but not files by default |
| 18:04.07 | neybar | I suppose it makes sense though cause most files that you will be creating don't really need to be excutable, if they do, you will have write access and can easily change it |
| 18:18.00 | Hanuman_work | looks like the LDS church will be using a variation of the bsd license for most of its open-source applications. |
| 18:18.17 | Jayce^ | oh yeah? |
| 18:18.18 | Hanuman_work | They've almost got a version of gforge up and running to get volunteers |
| 18:18.36 | Jayce^ | so instead of using us :) |
| 18:18.40 | Jayce^ | where is it? |
| 18:18.40 | Hanuman_work | Steve, Charles and I are going to help them finish it |
| 18:18.59 | Hanuman_work | I'm not sure yet - they're supposed to e-mail me all the info today. |
| 18:19.46 | Hanuman_work | We're talking about setting it up as some sort of mirror so that theirs will be officially sponsored by the LDS church, and ours can be for other non-official projects |
| 18:20.14 | Hanuman_work | They will still use us and depend on us to help in the OSS development process |
| 18:20.42 | Hanuman_work | It's just now they will have a server in which they can maintain and monitor the projects that go on. |
| 18:21.27 | Hanuman_work | When it gets up and running, this could be /. worthy should they desire. I've never heard of a church organization openly supporting open-source within it's organization |
| 18:24.42 | Hanuman_work | As soon as the gforge page is up, then we'll be able to start on this perl project I asked for volunteers for. |
| 18:25.26 | Jayce^ | better check with them before linking them to /. :) |
| 18:25.54 | Hanuman_work | definitely - like I said - should it be their desire - I will leave that up to them, though. |
| 18:26.47 | Hanuman_work | There are quite a few people on the PLUG list (and other Utah groups) that are working there now - a lot of influence for OpenSource. |
| 18:27.22 | Jayce^ | oh yeah.. |
| 18:27.43 | Jayce^ | bryan sant is a neighbor of mine, he's one of their lead developers.. |
| 18:27.58 | Hanuman_work | do you know what department he works in? I was wondering that. |
| 18:28.05 | Jayce^ | not sure |
| 18:28.18 | Jayce^ | he is training all their developers right now |
| 18:28.55 | neybar | do they need a perl developer? |
| 18:29.00 | Hanuman_work | I think that is totally cool, though. I know several of the GA's have been briefed on all this, so I'm sure the word is spreading over there. |
| 18:29.22 | Jayce^ | neybar, all j2ee stuff there :/ |
| 18:29.29 | neybar | bummer |
| 18:29.32 | Jayce^ | no joke |
| 18:29.40 | Hanuman_work | neybar: their OSS stuff will include some perl projects |
| 18:29.58 | neybar | I think it is almost worth it to relearn java if I could work for them |
| 18:30.02 | neybar | almost... |
| 18:30.10 | Jayce^ | ew |
| 18:30.44 | brailsmt_ | the church should use ruby... support its own members' OSS efforts... |
| 18:30.48 | neybar | what's worse... using java for church projects, or perl for spamming? I haven't worked that one out for myself yet. |
| 18:32.27 | hans | neybar: what's worse, using MS products for everything or migrating to Java? |
| 18:32.34 | hans | they're on an upwards road, you see. |
| 18:32.36 | brailsmt_ | MS |
| 18:32.55 | hans | brailsmt_: i disagree |
| 18:33.03 | hans | java is a fine language |
| 18:33.18 | brailsmt_ | i am saying using MS is worse... |
| 18:33.37 | neybar | I ment that statement personally for me... would I rather learn java and help the church, or continue with perl and my current job with involves lots of spam |
| 18:33.43 | Hanuman_work | most of what I learned was Java applets, too |
| 18:34.09 | hans | neybar: oic. that is a completely different question then. :) |
| 18:34.27 | Hanuman_work | neybar: I understand your situation. I worked for a company that did genealogy programming perl and was asked to do alot of SPAM projects of all things. |
| 18:34.40 | hans | brailsmt_: oh, yeah, duh. I'm on something. what could it be? maybe novocaine |
| 18:34.42 | Hanuman_work | Jayce^ worked there too |
| 18:34.48 | brailsmt_ | at least i can install any os and still use java... |
| 18:34.52 | hans | stupid stuff didn't even work right. :) |
| 18:35.08 | hans | s/:)/:\// |
| 18:35.29 | brailsmt_ | hans is in a drug induced stupor... |
| 18:35.31 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 18:35.36 | neybar | fun |
| 18:35.57 | hans | not really though - afaik it only affects your lip. but then that's what was affected here, no? |
| 18:36.05 | brailsmt_ | can anyone get to aatrade.springfield.net? |
| 18:36.06 | Hanuman_work | they don't have emoticons for novicaine smiles, do they? |
| 18:36.18 | hans | i never want a cavity on that side of my mouth again, they can't get me all numb there. |
| 18:36.32 | neybar | :-? |
| 18:36.35 | Hanuman_work | I hate those ones |
| 18:36.38 | Hanuman_work | neybar: that's good |
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| 23:59.14 | lukfugl | question for anyone with superior apache knowledge than myself (which should be just about everyone) |
| 23:59.30 | lukfugl | I'm attempting to use mod_rewrite to extract part of a URL and set an environment variable. In short, I want to change a url of /baz/some_request to /some_request with $ENV{FOO} == 'baz'. I'm using the following rewrite rule: RewriteRule ^/([^/]+)/(.*) /$2 [E=FOO:$1] |
| 23:59.52 | lukfugl | First problem: if the request is to /baz, the pattern doesn't match, so I added a prior rule that redirects with an trailing slash if there's not at least one / after the initial one (RewriteRule /([^/]+)$ /$1/ [R]) |