| 00:00.02 | jason_u | yo |
| 00:12.46 | jason_u | hey james can you do me a favor? |
| 00:20.05 | jalance_ | sure |
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| 16:07.48 | Jayce^ | http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/safehavn/about.htm |
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| 16:10.19 | neybar | did you read that quick rebuttal email? |
| 16:10.33 | Jayce^ | http://www.comics.com/wash/genepool/index.html |
| 16:10.33 | neybar | has potential for a nice flame war |
| 16:10.39 | Jayce^ | which one? |
| 16:11.22 | neybar | pllug email |
| 16:11.28 | neybar | plug |
| 16:11.29 | neybar | err |
| 16:11.48 | neybar | subject is quick rebuttal |
| 16:11.54 | Jayce^ | ah, yes.. that one |
| 16:14.09 | Jayce^ | you missed out on a really good game yesterday neybar.. |
| 16:14.13 | Jayce^ | two weeks to the next one |
| 16:14.14 | neybar | dang |
| 16:14.25 | neybar | I think I will be at that one for sure |
| 16:14.39 | neybar | course it is probably going to be really cold too... |
| 16:14.42 | Jayce^ | buying a gun? :) |
| 16:15.06 | neybar | no, rent one |
| 16:15.19 | Jayce^ | where you going to get it? |
| 16:15.24 | neybar | not sure yet |
| 16:15.33 | neybar | haven't gotten that far :-) |
| 16:15.39 | Jayce^ | at pegleg it's like $30.. |
| 16:15.56 | Jayce^ | if you go to wal-mart, they have a cheap brass eagle SET, for %65 |
| 16:15.58 | Jayce^ | $65 |
| 16:16.12 | Jayce^ | guy bought one for saturday.. actually worked real well |
| 16:16.26 | Jayce^ | cheap gun, 9oz tank, hopper, mask |
| 16:16.28 | neybar | problem is the $65 part... |
| 16:16.50 | Jayce^ | yeah, in your position though, I'd suggest getting that one over renting.. |
| 16:17.03 | neybar | maybe |
| 16:17.04 | Jayce^ | you play 2 times, it'll save you money |
| 16:17.19 | Jayce^ | after you factor driving to get the gun, etc.. |
| 16:18.50 | Jayce^ | I gotta get a special screw for my pump to get it working again.. |
| 16:19.09 | Jayce^ | after being loaned out, one of the screws is stripped, and I need to replace it.. |
| 16:19.26 | neybar | bummer |
| 16:19.52 | Jayce^ | but kelly is totally excited about this.. I'm probably going to be buying a tippman a5 for a new gun pretty soon :) |
| 16:19.55 | Jayce^ | christmas present :) |
| 16:20.02 | Jayce^ | then she gets my gun |
| 16:20.12 | neybar | really? cool |
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| 16:21.57 | Jayce^ | yeah, it's just coming up with the money :) |
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| 17:16.23 | sjansen | Stupid rassafrassing python. |
| 17:16.42 | sjansen | All I want to do is install to a different prefix. Why should that be so hard? |
| 17:16.58 | sjansen | Anyone here familiar with python setup.py conventions? |
| 17:18.19 | Jayce^ | [tab][tab][space] |
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| 17:45.06 | TimRiker | anyone know if Jim Freeman is still with Lineo/Metroworks? |
| 17:45.16 | Jayce^ | not a clue |
| 17:46.15 | TimRiker | ah well. guess I'll email him. |
| 18:00.13 | neybar | anyone have any experience with streaming audio |
| 18:00.27 | neybar | (server end of streaming that is) |
| 18:01.35 | Jayce^ | it's been a whlie |
| 18:01.37 | Jayce^ | while |
| 18:15.59 | brailsmt_ | why in the heck do employers care that resumes be in word format? |
| 18:17.24 | neybar | cause they are too lazy/incompetent to realize that you can use other formats... unfortunately for us, they have the money and the jobs :-( |
| 18:18.22 | neybar | I really need a job that isn't run by marketing guys. I've decided that marketing types have no soul |
| 18:19.31 | brailsmt_ | lol |
| 18:28.55 | sjansen | brailsmt: Because they have software to weed out uninteresting resumes. |
| 18:29.26 | sjansen | That software can only understand certain formats, and Word is the most universal. |
| 18:31.53 | neybar | I have a problem with using software to weed out resumes. I know that I have been dropped from job prospects due to that. I applied at my wifes company, they guy that got hired was a total bone head, but I didn't get even interviewed cause my resume didn't have the correct number of keywords. |
| 18:32.31 | sjansen | Such is life. |
| 18:32.48 | neybar | it's true |
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| 18:49.00 | brailsmt_ | after all I don't even own word, nor do I use MS... I can send him a pdf, which is a far easier to view... |
| 18:58.28 | hans | brailsmt_: but he doesn't want to view it |
| 18:58.32 | hans | he wants to feed it to a computer weeder |
| 18:58.54 | bonez39 | hi hans |
| 18:58.55 | hans | so just make a text file and convert it to word format with some free tool. :) |
| 18:58.57 | hans | hey there |
| 18:59.17 | hans | brailsmt_: or make an RTF and rename it .doc |
| 18:59.54 | brailsmt_ | there is a free tool to convert from text to .doc? |
| 18:59.58 | hans | brailsmt_: maybe their resume system isn't designed to handle .rtf files, but word will just fine |
| 19:00.05 | bonez39 | hans: any other suggestions about screen resolution? I have been all through my /etc/X11/XF86Config file..and the -4 file as well, ... can't get anything more than 800x600 out of my system...to display |
| 19:00.18 | hans | so if it gubbers their system, they open it in word and see that it's legal and scratch their heads. you get looked at |
| 19:00.29 | hans | unless of course they automatically throw out something that gubbers up their system... |
| 19:00.55 | hans | bonez39: email me your XF86Config-4 file and your /var/log/XFree86.0.log file |
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| 19:18.07 | Hanuman_work | greetings |
| 19:23.58 | sjansen | salutations |
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| 20:10.52 | brailsmt_ | you know that (mostly) annoying popup in mozilla that asks if you want to save form/passwd data? is there anyway to enable it after you have clicked on the "Never for this site" button? |
| 20:15.21 | Hanuman_work | brailsmt_: does clearing the cache do it? |
| 20:15.29 | brailsmt_ | Hanuman_work: beats me... |
| 20:17.02 | hans | brailsmt_: tools|form manager |
| 20:27.31 | brailsmt_ | hans: the site in question doesn't show up anywhere in the manage sites button in form manager... |
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| 20:37.31 | bonez39 | hans: I just mailed you those files |
| 20:40.40 | sjansen | Stupid HP. |
| 20:42.07 | Hanuman_work | don't know how much it has changed since they merged with HP |
| 20:47.21 | levi | I met with a couple of guys last week who used to work on the Alpha. |
| 20:49.28 | sjansen | HP apparently had a deficiency in there object file format when compiling C++ code. Unfortunately, their fix breaks all C code that loads C++. |
| 20:50.32 | sjansen | And of course another brillian company (Netegrity) compiles there Apache module using a c++ compiler. It's probably all C code, so why do they do that? You got me. |
| 21:01.34 | sjansen | Somebody remind me again why proprietary software is more reliable and easier to use? |
| 21:14.57 | sjansen | hans: Did you see Dave's vim question? |
| 21:20.34 | bonez39 | here's a question: I am trying to get my wife, mother, inlaws and others coordinated...with calendars...I would like to know if any are aware here..of a calendar, that can be shared...online..and synchronized...to a palm...? |
| 21:20.55 | bonez39 | did you get those files yet, hans? |
| 21:21.02 | sjansen | Check out phpicalendar, it isn't a complete solution but might help. |
| 21:21.34 | bonez39 | sjansen: ok..do YOU use it? |
| 21:27.19 | bonez39 | sjansen: that was phpicalendar? I can't find it in apt-cache..but I'll see if it grabs it off the net |
| 21:27.48 | bonez39 | is the name spelled correctly? |
| 21:29.46 | sjansen | I've used it in the past, yes. |
| 21:30.20 | sjansen | http://phpicalendar.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:39.54 | hans | bonez39: I think the problem is your video card has not enough memory for the high resolutions at the color depth you want |
| 21:40.17 | hans | try reducing color depth to 16 or 15 |
| 21:41.57 | bonez39 | hans: I don't care if the depth is reduced at the higher resolutions...I am fine with less depth....but I can't even get any hi res at any depth to work.. |
| 21:42.15 | bonez39 | do I change the depth value in the config files? |
| 21:45.34 | bonez39 | hans: do I alter the depth in /etc/X11/XF86Config or in the ... -4 file? |
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| 22:00.57 | bonez39 | hans: it's working...at least somewhat better...I think it's at least at 1024x768... |
| 22:05.13 | bonez39 | sigh...guess I need to get a better vdo card...or find more mem for this one |
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| 23:06.59 | TimRiker | ~seen jfree |
| 23:07.00 | | TimRiker: i haven't seen 'jfree' |
| 23:07.08 | TimRiker | ~seen CaseyAndersen |
| 23:07.08 | | TimRiker: i haven't seen 'caseyandersen' |
| 23:07.12 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 23:07.44 | HarleyPig | ~seen anybody? |
| 23:07.44 | | HarleyPig: i haven't seen 'anybody' |
| 23:07.53 | HarleyPig | ~seen squat? |
| 23:07.54 | | i haven't seen 'squat', HarleyPig |
| 23:08.01 | HarleyPig | :] |
| 23:08.25 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 23:08.34 | Jayce^ | TimRiker, how often do you compile those ibot stats? |
| 23:09.20 | TimRiker | seen stats expire over time, don't recall how long. 6 months? |
| 23:09.24 | TimRiker | ~seen rcam |
| 23:09.25 | | i haven't seen 'rcam', TimRiker |
| 23:09.38 | TimRiker | ~seen andersee |
| 23:09.38 | | andersee is currently on #uclibc (3h 13m 16s) #elinux (3h 13m 16s) #openembedded (3h 13m 16s) |
| 23:10.18 | Jayce^ | TimRiker, I'm thinking for that web page you had |
| 23:10.40 | TimRiker | the stats page is just the last day's stats. updated daily. ;-) |
| 23:10.45 | TimRiker | ~stats |
| 23:10.46 | | Since Wed Oct 15 19:58:52 2003, there have been 126 modifications, 632 questions, 501 dunnos, 29 morons and 755 commands. I have been awake for 12d 3h 11m 53s this session, and currently reference 85519 factoids. I'm using about 17000 kB of memory. |
| 23:10.53 | TimRiker | ~logs |
| 23:10.55 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or ibot logs, jbot does not |
| 23:11.06 | TimRiker | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/utah.html |
| 23:11.47 | TimRiker | hey, looks like Mecworks was actually looking for me. |
| 23:12.08 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 23:12.32 | HarleyPig | morons? |
| 23:13.18 | TimRiker | ~reload |
| 23:13.18 | | reloading... |
| 23:13.20 | | reloaded: UserDCC.pl dbi.pl Factoids.pl Irc.pl UserExtra.pl |
| 23:13.53 | HarleyPig | What does ibot think a moron is? |
| 23:14.05 | TimRiker | ibot thinks that anything you say that starts with ibot must therefore be a command to him. If he does not understand what you are trying to get him to do, he calls you a morn. This should generate that effect. |
| 23:14.06 | | that's too long, TimRiker |
| 23:14.13 | TimRiker | heh. guess not. |
| 23:14.33 | HarleyPig | ~extrememlyunlikelycommand |
| 23:14.43 | HarleyPig | ibot, extremelyunlikelycommand |
| 23:14.44 | | HarleyPig: bugger all, i dunno |
| 23:14.48 | TimRiker | ibot dfkgjs;dfk jg;lksdjf gkj sd;flkjgs;lkdf gkljsdfkl gklsdjf gkljsd;fl jg;lskdjf g;lkjsd fl; gjs;kldfj glksjdf g;lkjsdflk gjsl;kdjf gl;kjs dfljkg;dslkfj g;lksdjf g |
| 23:14.50 | | TimRiker: You are moron #30 |
| 23:14.54 | HarleyPig | Ah. |
| 23:15.08 | TimRiker | ~stats |
| 23:15.10 | | Since Wed Oct 15 19:58:52 2003, there have been 126 modifications, 633 questions, 502 dunnos, 30 morons and 755 commands. I have been awake for 12d 3h 16m 16s this session, and currently reference 85519 factoids. I'm using about 16996 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. |
| 23:15.18 | HarleyPig | ibot, what's a moron? |
| 23:15.21 | | HarleyPig: are you using Windows? |
| 23:15.27 | TimRiker | hehehehehe |
| 23:15.29 | HarleyPig | :D |
| 23:15.38 | HarleyPig | Does it check fingerprints? |
| 23:15.39 | TimRiker | ~literal moron |
| 23:15.41 | | moron is somone that types long lines starting with $ident ... |
| 23:15.58 | HarleyPig | Um, shouldn't that be interpolated? |
| 23:16.11 | TimRiker | no, moron is someone that types long lines starting with $ident |
| 23:16.14 | TimRiker | ~moron |
| 23:16.15 | | i heard moron is somone that types long lines starting with ibot ... |
| 23:16.37 | TimRiker | ~no, moron is someone that types long lines starting with $ident |
| 23:16.38 | HarleyPig | That would be what the literal was for. |
| 23:16.51 | TimRiker | ibot: no, moron is someone that types long lines starting with $ident |
| 23:16.53 | | okay, TimRiker |
| 23:16.56 | TimRiker | ~moron |
| 23:16.58 | | i heard moron is someone that types long lines starting with ibot |
| 23:17.18 | TimRiker | ibot: no, moron is someone that types long lines starting with "$ident" |
| 23:17.20 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 23:17.22 | TimRiker | ~moron |
| 23:17.23 | | from memory, moron is someone that types long lines starting with "ibot" |
| 23:17.56 | HarleyPig | ibot: frizzlefrazzle is "If I know a variable I can include it in a definition? $VERSION" |
| 23:17.57 | | HarleyPig: okay |
| 23:18.04 | HarleyPig | ~frizzlefrazzle |
| 23:18.06 | | i guess frizzlefrazzle is "If I know a variable I can include it in a definition? $VERSION" |
| 23:18.14 | HarleyPig | worth a try. |
| 23:18.34 | HarleyPig | ibot, forget frizzlefrazzle |
| 23:18.34 | | i forgot frizzlefrazzle, HarleyPig |
| 23:18.40 | HarleyPig | ~frizzlefrazzle |
| 23:18.43 | TimRiker | ~tell HarleyPig about help dollar variables |
| 23:19.01 | HarleyPig | It's not telling me. |
| 23:19.05 | TimRiker | hmm.. tell didn't |
| 23:19.08 | HarleyPig | I don't think ibot likes me. |
| 23:19.16 | TimRiker | ~tell HarleyPig about moron |
| 23:19.45 | TimRiker | ~dict moron |
| 23:19.48 | TimRiker | ~dict nee |
| 23:19.51 | TimRiker | ~status |
| 23:19.52 | | Since Wed Oct 15 19:58:52 2003, there have been 130 modifications, 639 questions, 503 dunnos, 30 morons and 761 commands. I have been awake for 12d 3h 20m 59s this session, and currently reference 85520 factoids. I'm using about 16996 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. |
| 23:20.25 | HarleyPig | What does ibot fork? |
| 23:20.32 | TimRiker | ~dict nee |
| 23:20.33 | TimRiker | ~status |
| 23:20.34 | | Since Wed Oct 15 19:58:52 2003, there have been 130 modifications, 639 questions, 503 dunnos, 30 morons and 762 commands. I have been awake for 12d 3h 21m 41s this session, and currently reference 85520 factoids. I'm using about 16996 kB of memory. With 2 active forks. |
| 23:20.43 | HarleyPig | Uh ... when I think of a better way to word that question I'll do it. |
| 23:20.48 | HarleyPig | I see. |
| 23:20.50 | TimRiker | hmm.. I think the fork count is *2 at the moment. |
| 23:21.45 | TimRiker | things that would block get forked. like google searches, "change", babelfish, debian lookups, bzflag lists ;-), and so forth. |
| 23:21.51 | TimRiker | ~slashdot |
| 23:22.07 | TimRiker | ~x en jp Land Warrior Army Suits Simplified, Linux-ized ;; Digital Art For Your Wall-Mounted TV ;; White House Website Limits Iraq-Related Crawling ;; Hand-Sized Antelope Windows PC To Debut ;; Microsoft Officially Shows Longhorn, WinFX ;; Cygwin/XFree86 Leaving XFree86.org ;; Spam Rapidly Increasing In Weblog Comments ;; Bitter EJB ;; Novell & SUSE In Link Up? |
| 23:22.22 | TimRiker | got utf8? ;-) |
| 23:22.31 | HarleyPig | :> |
| 23:23.02 | HarleyPig | tell worked ... I just didn't see the little blinking icon in the systray. |
| 23:23.05 | TimRiker | hmm gaim. does that show the unicode chars? |
| 23:23.16 | TimRiker | HarleyPig: it lagged quite a bit. |
| 23:23.20 | HarleyPig | It depends on the os for fonts. |
| 23:23.30 | TimRiker | and so? |
| 23:23.44 | TimRiker | what about a simple one like.... |
| 23:23.51 | HarleyPig | No ... I don't have UTF-8 installed on this system. :) |
| 23:23.53 | TimRiker | ~x en sp tomorrow |
| 23:23.59 | HarleyPig | Yep. |
| 23:24.15 | Jayce^ | whoo.. glad to hear they are moving the land-warrior to linux |
| 23:24.19 | TimRiker | got an n with a ~ ? |
| 23:24.27 | TimRiker | land-warrior? |
| 23:24.36 | HarleyPig | yeah |
| 23:24.45 | TimRiker | ~google land warrior linux |
| 23:24.59 | TimRiker | heh |
| 23:25.09 | HarleyPig | land warrior =? grunt |
| 23:26.43 | Jayce^ | top slashdot story right now |
| 23:26.59 | Jayce^ | thought you'd know about it TimRiker, being as embedded/wearable as it is |
| 23:27.08 | TimRiker | cool. |
| 23:27.16 | TimRiker | didn't recognise the name. |
| 23:27.25 | HarleyPig | ArmyOS, BarbieOS ... what next? |
| 23:29.15 | HarleyPig | FurbyOS! Yaaaay! |
| 23:30.34 | TimRiker | hahahaha -> "building apps that are as smart as Outlook" from Longhorn article. |
| 23:31.15 | HarleyPig | wow ... that's scary |
| 23:32.22 | neybar | my uncle worked ont he land warrior project when it was based on XP. I had a few conversations about the stability of that... |
| 23:32.44 | neybar | "Ack, wait! I need to reboot my gun..." |
| 23:32.45 | HarleyPig | Really ... any insider info? |
| 23:33.31 | Jayce^ | sell that system to other countries, then when we go to war with them, we'll get lucky when their missles and land-mines blue-screen |
| 23:33.36 | neybar | not that he gave me, I just knew that it was based on XP, and I ribbed him about it on more than one occasion |
| 23:33.45 | HarleyPig | Ah. |
| 23:34.19 | HarleyPig | Jayce^: It doesn't work that way. We'll have signed a treaty and *then* they'll blue screen and start firing randomly. |
| 23:37.22 | Jayce^ | anybody know, in ldap, can you just say "include all schema files in this dir" instead of listing each specifically? |
| 23:37.36 | Jayce^ | include "/path/to/schema/*.schema" ? |
| 23:37.46 | HarleyPig | You can *say* it ... but does it do anything useful? |
| 23:37.55 | Jayce^ | thbttt |
| 23:38.25 | HarleyPig | Now that I've offered absolutely no help whatsoever, does anyone know of a module for UPS? cpan's coming up dry. |
| 23:38.36 | Jayce^ | UPS shipping? |
| 23:38.41 | HarleyPig | yeah |
| 23:39.23 | brailsmt_ | oohhhh... WinFX... just when you thought all the bad MS name spoofing couldn't get any worse... |
| 23:39.27 | Jayce^ | check the ups site, I know they hae upgraded that stuff |
| 23:39.38 | Jayce^ | they gotta move from .Net, with all the crap it got |
| 23:39.45 | HarleyPig | ? ups has perl modules online? |
| 23:40.00 | Jayce^ | they were moving to a web services type interface I know.. |
| 23:40.38 | HarleyPig | heh |
| 23:40.49 | brailsmt_ | namely 'u' |
| 23:40.50 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 23:41.09 | HarleyPig | 'or' |
| 23:41.13 | HarleyPig | WinForX |
| 23:41.14 | HarleyPig | :> |
| 23:41.29 | brailsmt_ | WinFX is a a WinFiX |
| 23:43.01 | HarleyPig | :> |
| 23:43.57 | HarleyPig | Damnit ... I have too much to do ... quit distracting me with interesting diversions! :> |
| 23:44.03 | brailsmt_ | WinFX - "Its all in the FX" |
| 23:44.26 | brailsmt_ | WinFX - "Nothing new, just a bunch of neat new FX" |
| 23:44.39 | brailsmt_ | FX is a stupid movie |
| 23:44.51 | HarleyPig | FX - fracture |
| 23:45.14 | brailsmt_ | FX == effects as in SpecialFX |
| 23:47.13 | HarleyPig | For Cross Compatibility |
| 23:54.47 | neybar | the main FX is the ability to crash on demand... or anyother time :-) |
| 23:55.32 | neybar | oooh crash on demand... that could be a cool buzz word. anything on demand is cool nowadays |
| 23:56.13 | TimRiker | cept it's not on demand. it's crash when least expected |
| 23:57.08 | HarleyPig | They had that ... it was called TearDrop |