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| 03:08.07 | Mecworks | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/utah.html.gz |
| 03:13.26 | tyce | thats pretty cool |
| 05:30.15 | tyce | anyone home? |
| 05:30.30 | tyce | I need soem help with fowarding X thru a firewall |
| 05:56.53 | Mecworks | SLLUG's job email list is now active: http://sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-jobs-announce |
| 05:57.34 | retina | Mecworks: what gets posted to that list? everything? anything? |
| 06:08.20 | Mecworks | There's an email that was just sent out to sllug-announce and sllug-members that explains what the list will carry. |
| 06:08.32 | Mecworks | are you on either list? |
| 06:08.58 | retina | yeah, I think I get mail on the SLLUG member list..., but not the job email list |
| 06:09.30 | retina | do you use MUTT ? I would like to use it but am unsure how to set up or configure it to see my ISP and mail server |
| 06:09.38 | Mecworks | I just sent it out about 5 minutes ago so it may not have been sentto you yet. |
| 06:10.21 | Mecworks | I use pine, kmail, netscape mail, and occationaly I use mutt. not enough to answer any Qs though. |
| 06:11.22 | retina | before you could use mutt though, you had to configure the server info, right? do you know of a channel here, that may help ? |
| 06:11.37 | retina | I have read through the documentation, and can't find out this basic information |
| 06:11.44 | retina | no worry if you can't help. I understand |
| 06:12.25 | Mecworks | Actualy it runs out of the box for local accounts. Since I run my own email servers, I have all my mail accoutns local.... |
| 06:14.44 | retina | ah...I am not that advanced yet... |
| 06:34.52 | Mecworks | have you googled for "mutt" and "imap"? You should get an answer that way. |
| 06:49.22 | retina | ah, didn't try that yet.. |
| 06:49.31 | retina | but am trying it now |
| 06:49.43 | retina | but do I want IMAP or POP? |
| 13:12.34 | Hanuman | Good Morning everyone... |
| 14:38.28 | levi | Good morning |
| 14:44.26 | Hanuman | How is life in Utah today? |
| 14:45.21 | levi | Well, the day has started off okay, except I forgot my wallet so I had to get someone to let me in the building. |
| 14:49.53 | levi | Still got some lingering bugs in my car's electrical system. |
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| 15:10.23 | Hanuman | levi: is this your custom-programmed car? |
| 15:11.38 | levi | Yup. |
| 15:12.45 | levi | Well, it's custom-programmed as far as I get to enter in fuel and ignition timing numbers for the internal table. I don't get control over algorithms or anything like that. |
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| 15:15.34 | Hanuman | hmmm...do I get the Sony Ericcson P900 or the Handspring Treo 600? |
| 15:15.51 | Hanuman | One runs on Palm the other a non-Microsoft Symbian-based OS |
| 15:16.05 | Jayce^ | treo :) |
| 15:16.20 | Jayce^ | dunno. I just want one that I can ssh from, directly .. |
| 15:17.01 | Hanuman | can you do that from the treo? |
| 15:17.10 | Hanuman | P900 has built-in bluetooth |
| 15:18.30 | levi | What cell service do you have? |
| 15:19.51 | Hanuman | none at the moment - I'll figure that out when I figure out what phone I want to get |
| 15:19.59 | Hanuman | I've used Sprint in the past |
| 15:21.56 | Hanuman | P900 also comes with the Opera browser |
| 15:22.19 | Hanuman | +mp3 player |
| 15:22.50 | levi | I have Sprint and a year-long contract right now, so I won't be switching away anytime soon. |
| 15:23.50 | Hanuman | I like Handspring's keyboard, but the P900 is much smaller |
| 15:27.00 | Jayce^ | I've got t-mobile, my contract goes out in december.. |
| 15:27.08 | Jayce^ | like the service... detest my phone |
| 15:30.02 | Hanuman | I've heard alot of good things about t-mobile. P900 will work with their network, too. |
| 15:33.22 | levi | Hmm, the P900 looks really cool. |
| 15:44.34 | Jayce^ | you know it sucks, when a neighbor asks for help in buying a laptop.. |
| 15:44.54 | Jayce^ | they are completely non-tech savvy, have no need for real power, but want "the best" |
| 15:58.51 | Hanuman | Jayce^: I never understood that either |
| 15:59.06 | Hanuman | levi: did you see the synch instructions for Linux? |
| 16:00.04 | levi | Didn't look at them, but I saw that they existed. |
| 16:00.41 | levi | Jayce^: It's the same reason people buy Cadillac Escalades. Because they're big and powerful. |
| 16:00.50 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 16:01.07 | Jayce^ | sad thing ones, lady wouldn't get a ibook... had to get a dell |
| 16:01.30 | levi | Why was she set on dell? |
| 16:01.38 | Jayce^ | employee purchase.. |
| 16:01.49 | Jayce^ | had to be PC for sure. but dell was the main thing |
| 16:19.51 | hans | Jayce^: so recommend 'the best' and cut no corners. The price tag will either scare them off or ensure that you don't have to mess with finnicky hardware |
| 16:20.19 | hans | disclaimer: I don't know if it's possible to not have finnicky hardware on a laptop. ;-) |
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| 16:57.21 | hans | with the meters |
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| 17:17.37 | hans | me too |
| 17:17.38 | hans | just kind of came out |
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| 18:33.14 | hans | ~lart cars |
| 18:35.00 | Jayce^ | car trouble? |
| 18:36.23 | Jayce^ | ~lart paypal's IPN |
| 18:36.44 | Jayce^ | apparently they just changed their api some, now a bunch of code stopped working.. |
| 18:44.45 | hans | yeah. waterpump |
| 18:44.45 | hans | $500 to fix |
| 18:44.45 | hans | anyone wanna sell a nice vw bug? at least I can do the work on those |
| 18:56.29 | Hanuman | I'm never using paypal or E-bay again |
| 18:57.15 | Hanuman | They give no information about the seller, and when you put a fraudulent order in dispute with Paypal they challenge it until the time-limit is over that you can dispute it |
| 18:58.11 | Hanuman | Sorry - just had to vent - I'm having issues with them recently |
| 18:58.58 | Hanuman | I'm still mad about my DOA Mac I received off E-bay and the seller who dissapeared |
| 18:59.20 | Hanuman | and the UPS who won't give out sender information |
| 18:59.33 | Hanuman | and the E-bay who gives little help in getting your money back |
| 18:59.42 | Hanuman | the only helpful party has been my CC company |
| 19:02.02 | Hanuman | Is there a good way to get a phone number if you have their address? |
| 19:17.09 | neybar | that sucks |
| 19:17.33 | brailsmt_work | Hanuman: google it? |
| 19:18.43 | brailsmt_work | yeah, googling my phone number worked... |
| 19:19.26 | brailsmt_work | though, that is only because it is on my resume |
| 19:21.09 | Hanuman | brailsmt_work: yeah - already tried that. I have a map to his house at least, and it is in VA about 45 mins from where I live |
| 19:22.33 | brailsmt_work | Hanuman: so go beat him up |
| 19:22.34 | brailsmt_work | :) |
| 19:22.45 | hans | form a posse |
| 19:22.52 | brailsmt_work | lynch him |
| 19:23.09 | hans | hire a PI |
| 19:23.36 | Hanuman | nah - it's just $50, but enough to be ticked off about |
| 19:23.46 | brailsmt_work | take him to small claims |
| 19:23.55 | Hanuman | I've still got a chance that the dispute w/ my cc company will work out |
| 19:24.09 | Hanuman | I'm not even sure if he still lives at that address |
| 19:24.24 | Hanuman | all of the sudden his e-mails started bouncing and I couldn't get through to his phone # |
| 19:24.28 | Hanuman | when before I could |
| 19:24.50 | brailsmt_work | he probably has a scam operation set up where he cheats people out $50 for crap hardware then up and moves... ;) |
| 19:24.51 | Hanuman | I could try the small claims thing if it makes me mad enough |
| 19:25.14 | Hanuman | he had a good rating on E-bay, which is what baffles me |
| 19:25.33 | Hanuman | This is the first bad experience I've had |
| 19:25.35 | brailsmt_work | and stories like this are the reason why |
| 19:26.32 | Hanuman | yeah - I'll think twice in the future before buying on e-bay again |
| 19:26.38 | Hanuman | and especially through paypal |
| 19:27.02 | neybar | my only bad experience with ebay so far is that the last item I bought took for ever to get. they guy charged me $12 shipping for a video card, then send it by pack mule... |
| 19:27.38 | brailsmt_work | lol |
| 19:27.40 | neybar | at that price I should have at least gotten it two-day. |
| 19:28.59 | brailsmt_work | i think he sent by pack rat |
| 19:31.16 | Hanuman | I paid $40 shipping for a $10 computer across town - he wanted to charge me $20 to go pick it up myself |
| 19:31.31 | Hanuman | and when the computer got to me it didn't even work |
| 19:35.08 | brailsmt_work | $20 for you to pick it up? |
| 19:35.18 | brailsmt_work | how generous of him |
| 19:37.46 | levi | How's he justify that? |
| 19:39.07 | Hanuman | He said it was "the handling" part of "shipping and handling" - because I won the item at such a low price he had to charge something for all the effort he put into advertising it, etc. |
| 19:39.36 | neybar | what a bunch of baloney |
| 19:39.56 | levi | Did he include that price up front, or did you find out about it afterward? |
| 19:43.06 | Hanuman | afterward |
| 19:43.28 | Hanuman | nothing was mentioned in the description, but it was still a decent price so I took it |
| 19:50.48 | levi | I'd say that's unethical at best. Fixed handling fees should be listed up front. I've seen that on a lot of ebay auctions. |
| 19:51.07 | levi | I wonder what eBay's rules say about that. |
| 19:53.08 | brailsmt_work | anyway, that would have thrown up red flags all over the place... |
| 19:54.41 | brailsmt_work | you should tell him it will cost him $50 to avoid small claims court... |
| 19:57.02 | Hanuman | yeah - I may do that if I can get ahold of him |
| 20:57.44 | levi | Small claims court is a pain. |
| 20:58.02 | levi | And almost certainly not worth it for such a small amount. |
| 20:58.37 | levi | Getting a judgement is not hard, it's collecting that's difficult. |
| 21:08.52 | Hanuman | yeah - that's what I figure |
| 21:08.58 | Hanuman | well, time to go home |
| 21:09.13 | levi | And you have to collect before you recover court fees, which will probably end up running more than $50 |
| 21:09.57 | levi | However, having a judgement against you from small claims court looks bad on a credit report, if you just want to get back at the guy. |
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| 22:26.02 | Jayce^ | anybody know how to find an ldap schema that provides a given object class? |
| 22:26.24 | Jayce^ | working with some ldif's here that are of iphost class, but can't seem to find the definition for them |
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| 23:37.11 | lukfugl | any modperl experts in here? |
| 23:37.54 | hans | Jayce^ is :) |
| 23:38.39 | lukfugl | yes, but is he among the living at the moment? :) |
| 23:54.11 | brailsmt_work | perl is pretty good at removing ppl from the realm of the living... |
| 23:54.17 | brailsmt_work | :) |
| 23:54.22 | lukfugl | heh |
| 23:54.38 | lukfugl | you know modperl2 brailsford? |
| 23:56.01 | lukfugl | :) I prefer ruby as well, but I'm stuck in perl for this project |