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| 02:37.28 | Hanuman | Anyone here familiar with Apache config? |
| 02:38.15 | Hanuman | I can't get this rewrite rule to work for some reason |
| 02:49.50 | tyce | yes |
| 02:50.24 | tyce | what does the line currently look like? |
| 02:50.47 | Hanuman | RewriteEngine On |
| 02:50.47 | Hanuman | RewriteMap lowercase int:tolower |
| 02:50.47 | Hanuman | NameVirtualHost 12.254.153.53 |
| 02:50.47 | Hanuman | <VirtualHost _default_:80> |
| 02:50.47 | Hanuman | ServerName www.ldsoss.org |
| 02:50.49 | Hanuman | ServerAlias ldsoss.org |
| 02:50.52 | Hanuman | DocumentRoot /home/sdibb/public_html/ldsoss |
| 02:50.54 | Hanuman | CustomLog /var/log/apache/ldsoss.org_access.log combined |
| 02:50.57 | Hanuman | ErrorLog /var/log/apache/ldsoss.org_error.log |
| 02:51.00 | Hanuman | ErrorDocument 403 /403.html |
| 02:51.02 | Hanuman | ErrorDocument 404 /404.html |
| 02:51.04 | Hanuman | RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/cgi-bin/ |
| 02:51.07 | Hanuman | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{SERVER_NAME}} ^[a-z-]+\.ldsoss\.org$ |
| 02:51.09 | Hanuman | RewriteRule ^(.+) ${lowercase:%{SERVER_NAME}}$1 [C] |
| 02:51.12 | Hanuman | RewriteRule ^([a-z-]+)\.ldsoss\.org/(.*) /home/projects/$1/public_html/$2 |
| 02:51.15 | Hanuman | ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ |
| 02:51.17 | Hanuman | </VirtualHost> |
| 02:51.20 | Hanuman | That's just a guess |
| 02:51.49 | Hanuman | I want all default *.ldsoss.org virtualhosts to point to their assigned locations, but anything else (projectname.ldsoss.org) should go to the /home/projects/projectname/public_html directory |
| 02:52.18 | Hanuman | I tried putting the rewrite conditions outside the VirtualHosts directive, but that doesn't work either |
| 02:55.11 | tyce | do you have vhost tags set up for all the default *.ldsoss.org? |
| 02:55.29 | Hanuman | yeah |
| 02:55.31 | tyce | ok |
| 02:55.37 | Hanuman | I want anything else to follow the rewrite rules |
| 02:56.02 | tyce | you shouldn't have to put the rewrite rule then inside vhost tags |
| 02:56.43 | Hanuman | k - I tried it outside the vhost tags, but it still doesn't work |
| 02:58.34 | tyce | thinking... ... ... |
| 03:14.07 | Hanuman | is there a way to fish the info it's getting from the rewrite rule and output it to the access or error log? |
| 03:39.33 | tyce | yeah, I got the second half working |
| 03:39.57 | tyce | just trying to get it to recognize the first rule |
| 03:58.12 | tyce | ok |
| 03:58.32 | tyce | with a lot of help from the resident genious here at work... |
| 03:58.44 | tyce | RewriteEngine On |
| 03:58.44 | tyce | RewriteLog /usr/local/etc/httpd/logs/rewrite.log |
| 03:58.44 | tyce | RewriteLogLevel 2 |
| 03:58.44 | tyce | RewriteMap lowercase int:tolower |
| 03:58.44 | tyce | RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/cgi-bin/ |
| 03:58.45 | tyce | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} ^[a-z-]+\.jupit\.net$ |
| 03:58.47 | tyce | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} !^www\.jupit\.net$ |
| 03:58.49 | tyce | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} !^ftp\.jupit\.net$ |
| 03:58.51 | tyce | RewriteRule ^(.+) ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}}$1 [C] |
| 03:58.53 | tyce | RewriteRule ^([a-z-]+)\.jupit\.net/(.*) |
| 03:59.13 | Hanuman | cool - I'll try that |
| 04:00.26 | tyce | so basically you'll need to specify the *.whatever.com that you dont want the rule to apply to on individual lines above |
| 04:01.23 | tyce | I think that your biggest problem was using SERVER_NAME, we couldn't get that to work on our VPS's here, but the HTTP_HOST seems to work fine |
| 04:01.52 | Hanuman | yeah - I was noticing that |
| 04:05.49 | Hanuman | hmmm...that doesn't seem to want to work still |
| 04:06.10 | Hanuman | RewriteEngine On |
| 04:06.10 | Hanuman | RewriteLog /var/log/apache/rewrite.log |
| 04:06.10 | Hanuman | RewriteLogLevel 2 |
| 04:06.10 | Hanuman | RewriteMap lowercase int:tolower |
| 04:06.10 | Hanuman | RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/cgi-bin/ |
| 04:06.13 | Hanuman | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} ^[a-z-]+\.ldsoss\.org$ |
| 04:06.15 | Hanuman | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} !^projects\.ldsoss\.org$ |
| 04:06.18 | Hanuman | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} !^www\.ldsoss\.org$ |
| 04:06.20 | Hanuman | RewriteCond ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}} !^ldsoss\.org$ |
| 04:06.23 | Hanuman | RewriteRule ^(.+) ${lowercase:%{HTTP_HOST}}$1 [C] |
| 04:06.26 | Hanuman | RewriteRule ^([a-z-]+)\.ldsoss\.org/(.*) /home/projects/$1/public_html/$2 |
| 04:06.28 | Hanuman | #ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ |
| 04:07.15 | Hanuman | I think the problem is getting *.ldsoss.org to go to /home/projects/*/public_html |
| 04:09.01 | tyce | did you check the rewrite.log? |
| 04:09.09 | Hanuman | yeah - nothing appears |
| 04:11.27 | tyce | did you try it with SERVER_NAME as well? |
| 04:11.48 | Hanuman | I'll try that again |
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| 04:14.47 | Hanuman | hmmm...for some reason homepage.ldsoss.org is redirecting to helaman.org |
| 04:14.51 | Hanuman | weird |
| 04:15.05 | Hanuman | wonder if wildcard dns is setup wrong |
| 04:15.44 | Hanuman | no - that can't be it because I can manually create a VirtualHost for homepage.ldsoss.org |
| 04:16.16 | Hanuman | nm - it's not a redirect |
| 04:16.31 | Hanuman | I'm looking at the referrers for the images, which would be homepage.ldsoss.org |
| 04:16.51 | Hanuman | still not sure why it's showing up in helaman.org's log file, though |
| 04:23.48 | tyce | huh |
| 04:24.01 | Hanuman | okay - now i've got it going to the rewrite log |
| 04:24.23 | Hanuman | I had to put it in a VirtualHost directive to make it work |
| 04:25.09 | tyce | thats strange |
| 04:25.42 | Hanuman | I didn't write this original conf file, so something could be screwy with how it's setup |
| 04:25.52 | Hanuman | Haven't had time to look through the entire thing |
| 04:26.01 | Hanuman | BINGO! |
| 04:26.11 | Hanuman | added the HTTP_HOST and it works now |
| 04:26.20 | Hanuman | just needs to be in its own VirtualHost |
| 04:28.26 | Bradipo | Anyone else noticing DNS issues with .org ? |
| 04:29.05 | Hanuman | Steve Dibb was noticing some problems with it out in your neck of the woods |
| 04:29.11 | Hanuman | I haven't seen any problem |
| 04:30.11 | Bradipo | Can you try something for me? |
| 04:32.10 | tyce | great! |
| 04:32.32 | tyce | its strange though that you had to put it within vhost tags |
| 04:32.37 | Hanuman | Bradipo: sure - I'm getting ready to go to bed soon, but if it's quick I can |
| 04:32.51 | Hanuman | tyce: I think the httpd.conf file is just set up weird |
| 04:33.03 | Hanuman | or a weird version of Apache or something |
| 04:33.12 | Hanuman | It IS Debian after all ;-) |
| 04:33.33 | tyce | yeah, could also just be that its setup strange on our end with it being in a virtual hosting environment |
| 04:33.40 | Hanuman | yeah |
| 04:34.07 | tyce | hey! easy with the debian slanders! ;) |
| 04:35.09 | Hanuman | tyce: just joking |
| 04:35.30 | Hanuman | I'm just used to the way I set my own machines up |
| 04:37.22 | tyce | I hear ya there |
| 04:40.42 | Hanuman | well, time for bed - cya guys later. Thanks for the help! |
| 05:00.56 | tyce | np, ne time |
| 13:14.36 | hans | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/15/tech/main578208.shtml |
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| 14:02.41 | Hanuman | good morning all |
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| 15:40.32 | Jayce^ | freaky... got a loud whining sound, and my system locked up! |
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| 15:46.46 | hans | Jayce^: you really ought to be nicer to your computer if it's whining at you. |
| 15:46.57 | hans | (must be that source-based distro ;-) |
| 15:48.24 | Jayce^ | lol.. no this is the mdk box :) |
| 15:48.40 | Jayce^ | gotta be something in the hardware, or driver I think.. that's 3 times that has happened.. |
| 15:54.52 | Hanuman | My system whines when I use Mandrake, too |
| 15:54.58 | Hanuman | ;-) |
| 15:55.06 | Bradipo | Who's wouldn't? |
| 15:57.27 | Hanuman | Man - I hate Solaris. |
| 15:59.41 | Hanuman | anyone know what shell solaris uses by default? |
| 16:00.50 | Jayce^ | ksh |
| 16:00.56 | Hanuman | k |
| 16:01.05 | hans | so Hanuman, the q is do you hate solaris or ksh? |
| 16:01.26 | Hanuman | Not sure - I'm just trying to figure out the layout of this system of ours |
| 16:01.50 | Hanuman | First of all, which would be a ksh problem, I'd like auto-complete to work |
| 16:01.59 | Hanuman | as well as up-arrow history, etc |
| 16:02.14 | Hanuman | s/auto/tab/ |
| 16:02.47 | Hanuman | secondly I can't figure out how it stores its configuration files |
| 16:03.04 | Hanuman | I see no user directories, so does /etc/profile handle it all? |
| 16:03.59 | Hanuman | hans: I hate the fact that Solaris uses ksh by default |
| 16:04.01 | Hanuman | so both |
| 16:04.26 | Hanuman | I also hate the fact that Solaris isn't Linux - maybe that's my main beef |
| 16:05.05 | Hanuman | mmm...beef |
| 16:05.12 | Hanuman | time for lunch... |
| 16:06.32 | Hanuman | ack! vim isn't installed!!! I hate plain 'ol vi |
| 16:06.57 | Hanuman | So is the only way to install it to install from source? |
| 16:08.24 | hans | welcome to proprietary unix. You will soon be trained in the way of the GNU |
| 16:08.41 | hans | most GNU stuff isn't on them by default, although some things might be |
| 16:08.49 | hans | the rest you get to build on your own |
| 16:09.20 | hans | i speak mostly from HP-UX experience, not solaris, so ymmv |
| 16:19.54 | Hanuman | yeah - we asked about Linux w/ our hosting provider, but for some reason Solaris is the only choice with them |
| 16:20.07 | Hanuman | and switching to another provider isn't my choice |
| 16:23.30 | Jayce^ | hey, at least it's unix :) |
| 16:29.07 | Hanuman | that's true |
| 16:29.14 | Hanuman | and at least it's not SCO |
| 16:37.24 | Hanuman | So Jayce^ are you trying the new Mandrake 9.2? |
| 16:39.08 | Jayce^ | not yet.. |
| 16:39.20 | Jayce^ | will in a week or so, on this box.. |
| 16:40.03 | neybar | I have 9.2 |
| 16:40.17 | Jayce^ | grr.. if you have an image in image magick, and you call ->Write with a different filetype (pdf -> jpg) it should write out in the new format shouldnt' it?? didnt' think you needed any other calls.. |
| 16:40.31 | Jayce^ | and sombody has my graphics in perl book |
| 16:41.14 | neybar | mandrake with out urpmi sources is a crippled os IMHO. I am using 9.2 at work, but I am going to wait with my home machine until more urpmi sources are available for 9.2 |
| 16:42.00 | Hanuman | is that their equivalent to apt repositories? |
| 16:42.04 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:42.22 | Hanuman | yeah - it's like the current state of fedora and yum |
| 16:43.43 | Jayce^ | neybar, plf has a 9.2 now.. nothing else. |
| 16:44.12 | Jayce^ | couple mirrors too, probably hammered though |
| 16:44.33 | Jayce^ | urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://knight.zarb.org/pub/plf/mandrake/9.2 with hdlist.cz |
| 16:44.33 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.56 | neybar | yeah, I saw that, there are only like 6 packages in it though (as of last night anyway) |
| 16:49.09 | neybar | I just got aegypten working though... yay. |
| 16:49.26 | Jayce^ | yeah, gotta build everything now |
| 16:49.29 | Jayce^ | cool |
| 16:49.55 | neybar | they renamed the package to kmail-aegypten-plugins |
| 16:50.06 | Jayce^ | makes sense |
| 16:51.10 | neybar | part of my problem was that my contrib source was not returning urpmi queries properly, I nuked it and got a different source and it works like a charm |
| 16:52.58 | Jayce^ | cool |
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| 17:39.44 | Hanuman | Jayce^: as soon as we've got all the minor tweaks worked out we are definitely going to need some help cleaning up Apache on ldsoss |
| 17:40.00 | Hanuman | That configuration is a mess right now (I didn't set it up) |
| 17:40.39 | Jayce^ | riiiight :) |
| 17:41.04 | Hanuman | Well, all I touched was adding mod_rewrites in there for the project home pages |
| 17:41.41 | Hanuman | and for some reason with the way it's setup I have to have the rewrite rules in a VirtualHost of their own |
| 17:42.09 | Hanuman | btw that works now |
| 18:05.04 | Hanuman | ack! stupid tab-complete |
| 18:05.22 | Jayce^ | wait, weren't you saying you wanted that before? |
| 18:11.09 | Hanuman | yes - that's why I'm ticked off - I keep trying to use it |
| 18:11.19 | Hanuman | ~lart Solaris |
| 18:11.24 | Hanuman | lol |
| 18:38.49 | Hanuman | what is the comand that will combine 2 files, one on top of the other? |
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| 18:41.34 | neybar | cat |
| 18:42.17 | Hanuman | I guess cat will do that, won't it? |
| 18:42.26 | neybar | yup |
| 18:43.35 | Hanuman | man does miracles when you read it |
| 18:58.53 | Hanuman | ~slashdot |
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| 19:18.07 | Hanuman | man I love webalizer |
| 19:38.17 | neybar | how bout those G5's? |
| 19:41.15 | Jayce^ | mmm |
| 19:41.17 | Jayce^ | big mac :) |
| 20:02.00 | neybar | mmm |
| 20:02.16 | neybar | the next question then is atlon64 or G5? |
| 20:02.26 | neybar | assuming you had any money that is... :-) |
| 20:03.15 | Jayce^ | both :) |
| 20:03.15 | Jayce^ | a guy can dream |
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| 21:17.49 | sjansen | Does anyone know of a slashcode like java application that has no dependency or works with Oracle? |
| 21:18.51 | sjansen | Alternatively, a slashcode like application that has no dependency on mod_* (eg. no mod_php, mod_perl, etc.) and works flat files or Oracle? |
| 21:19.24 | sjansen | Finally, (third alternative) can anyone think of a good Google query to find such a beast? |
| 21:38.07 | sjansen | blojsom |
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| 21:58.05 | sjansen | Man, we're having a great ol' time here. |
| 21:58.30 | sjansen | We've been handed a server another department has been running. They want to be integrated with our infrastructure. |
| 21:59.48 | sjansen | On it, we've discovered running, 2 Oracle version, 2 Apache servers, an IIS server, CISCO VPN software, Colfusion, an ancient version of SM web agent, and an SM policy server. |
| 21:59.56 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 21:59.58 | sjansen | Just discovered JRun. |
| 22:00.31 | sjansen | It's an N-tier architecture on a single box. And they wonder why it's at 100% CPU. |
| 22:01.31 | sjansen | eTrust and Unicenter (that's not supposed to be possible, but then neither is JRun+Coldfusion) |
| 22:02.16 | sjansen | The best part: we've been asked to install SM5. We discovered SM4.11 bundled with Coldfusion. We're pretty sure that our install will break the old one. |
| 22:03.24 | Jayce^ | hehe.. |
| 22:03.28 | sjansen | Of course, this is a live production machine. No environment for us to do any research first. |
| 22:04.04 | Jayce^ | we got a box once that they installed php on before delivery (with RH).. that was out *real* quick |
| 22:04.21 | sjansen | And departments think its too expensive to work with us. Maybe it is... until you have to server more than 100 people. Suddenly thinks like a development environment become expensive to leave out. |
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| 22:04.45 | sjansen | s/thinks/things/ |
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| 22:15.20 | sjansen | blojsom is cool, I can actually use IM (AIM/MSN/Jabber) to blog. (I'm sure this isn't the only blogging software to suppor this.) |
| 22:17.14 | Jayce^ | we used that for work for a while.. (IM reporting) |
| 22:17.21 | Jayce^ | in perl of course :) |
| 22:18.42 | sjansen | How'd it go? |
| 22:19.01 | Jayce^ | worked well |
| 22:36.52 | bonez39 | I have switched to running KDE for the moment, from Gnome..I like KDE,but wish I could make the fonts, everything smaller..half the KDE dialog boxes run off the screen, making it hard to navigate around in them |
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| 22:38.33 | levi | KDE has a font section in its config panel. |
| 22:40.25 | bonez39 | levi: thanks...how about for changing the screen resolution? |
| 22:40.37 | bonez39 | I am comfortable running at 1280x1024... |
| 22:47.11 | Jayce^ | ctrl-alt-shift- minus key (on the keypad) |
| 22:47.35 | levi | That, or you'll have to messs with your X config file. |
| 22:48.23 | levi | Gah, stupid gentoo. |
| 22:49.57 | sjansen | Don't pick on my friend. |
| 22:50.28 | bonez39 | Jayce^: ok..that cycles between a couple resolutions..but never gives me the higher res I want..is that something in X that I need to configure? |
| 22:50.49 | Jayce^ | bonez39, exactly |
| 22:51.42 | Jayce^ | that cycles through the ones you have configured |
| 22:55.19 | bonez39 | oh, I see.. is it xf86config or rather XF86config? I think that's what I need to add other resolutions |
| 22:56.12 | levi | sjansen: I'm trying to emerge evolution. It is broken. |
| 22:56.59 | levi | More specifically, libgnome-2.4.0 won't compile. |
| 22:57.31 | levi | I don't really want to compile this; I really just want to run it. Bah. |
| 23:02.22 | tyce | levi: thats one of the love/hate problems of gentoo in my opinion |
| 23:02.38 | tyce | it takes 48 hours to install anything you want to use |
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| 23:08.34 | levi | tyce: Generally I can live with it. But not when stuff /doesn't compile/ when I tell it to. |
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| 23:36.25 | brailsmt | :) |
| 23:37.01 | brailsmt | anyone know of a good lightweight DB that I can distribute with an app? |
| 23:37.31 | brailsmt | ie, not mysql, or postgres, nor any full blown RDBMS |
| 23:43.07 | sjansen | sqlite |
| 23:43.34 | sjansen | Very nice. Real SQL support, thread safe, tiny. |
| 23:44.10 | sjansen | http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/ |
| 23:45.48 | sjansen | For Java, hsql is a popular alternative. (Also known as Hypersonic.) http://hsqldb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:45.59 | sjansen | Haven't used it myself. |
| 23:57.23 | tensai | I second sqlite. works great in C, Perl, anything |