| 00:06.12 | tyce | <delayed response> hey |
| 00:08.43 | Jayce^ | just slightly delayed |
| 00:08.54 | Jayce^ | so, you work at iserver/verio? |
| 00:09.20 | tyce | yeah |
| 00:09.44 | tyce | you know people who work here? |
| 00:09.52 | tyce | or have you in your past? |
| 00:10.15 | Jayce^ | used to know a few people.. |
| 00:10.23 | Jayce^ | used to host there a loong time ago |
| 00:10.27 | tyce | ahh.. |
| 00:10.37 | Jayce^ | good perl folk :) |
| 00:10.41 | tyce | back when it was iserver? |
| 00:10.44 | tyce | yeah |
| 00:11.26 | Jayce^ | yeah, hosted there when it got bought, then for another year or so |
| 00:11.43 | Jayce^ | always wanted to get more of those guys on the plug list... |
| 00:11.55 | Jayce^ | yes the name says linux, but the bsd's are more than welcome :) |
| 00:13.44 | tyce | :) |
| 00:13.54 | tyce | yeah, personally Im not a huge fan of bsd |
| 00:14.00 | tyce | its nice server level |
| 00:14.12 | tyce | but I run debian on all my pcs |
| 00:16.22 | tyce | I find it a little more fun to use on the desktop level |
| 00:17.29 | Jayce^ | ditto |
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| 01:14.33 | tyce | anyone in here a law major? or aready a lawyer? |
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| 01:19.27 | Hanuman | Jayce^: just setup KDE |
| 01:19.37 | Hanuman | I think I'm sticking with Mozilla over Konq, though |
| 01:19.50 | Hanuman | I like Mozilla's look better |
| 01:21.37 | tyce | have you tried galeon? |
| 01:21.51 | tyce | it has some issues with things, but I like teh feel of it |
| 01:22.07 | tyce | Epiphany is a really light browser as well |
| 01:22.16 | Hanuman | yeah - I'm an old-fashion kind of guy - I figure if galeon's based on Mozilla, why not just stick with Mozilla |
| 01:22.51 | tyce | Mozilla seems to crash and have wierd quirky things happen to me when I use it |
| 01:23.01 | tyce | also, Im not really a fan of how they handle tabs |
| 01:23.05 | Hanuman | really? I've never had problems |
| 01:23.06 | tyce | not as nice as galeon |
| 01:23.12 | Hanuman | I never really use tabs anyway |
| 01:23.25 | tyce | really? I use them all the time |
| 01:23.31 | tyce | for work they are great |
| 01:23.47 | Hanuman | I like good ol windows |
| 01:23.55 | tyce | how are you liking KDE? |
| 01:24.01 | tyce | windows? |
| 01:24.07 | tyce | ohh |
| 01:24.12 | tyce | seperate windows |
| 01:24.21 | Hanuman | yes - that's what I meant |
| 01:24.22 | Hanuman | lol |
| 01:24.34 | tyce | for a second there... ;) |
| 01:24.37 | Hanuman | I really like KDE - used it before, but on much slower computers |
| 01:25.11 | tyce | I was using the CVS package version for debian for a while... |
| 01:25.11 | Hanuman | Now that my computer isn't faised by the extra overhead of the cool animations and graphics, I really like it |
| 01:25.25 | tyce | but it had major issues, so I just went back to fluxbox |
| 01:25.26 | Hanuman | I can't wait until they start using svg |
| 01:25.39 | Hanuman | On my system it's really fast |
| 01:25.45 | tyce | ahh |
| 01:25.49 | Hanuman | I've got a P4 2.5 GHz, though |
| 01:25.51 | tyce | that would make a huge difference |
| 01:25.54 | Hanuman | 750 Mb RAM |
| 01:26.08 | tyce | on this old computer, KDE just chugged along |
| 01:26.14 | Hanuman | I need a better video card, though |
| 01:26.36 | Hanuman | yeah - that was my original problem with it. I used to just use Enlightenment because of the speed issues |
| 01:26.58 | tyce | enlightenment is fun I used it for a long long time |
| 01:27.14 | tyce | but I found fluxbox to be a lot less memory intensive |
| 01:27.22 | Hanuman | never tried fluxbox |
| 01:27.35 | tyce | I wish it had the same virtual destop setup though |
| 01:27.42 | tyce | the enlightenment block was fun |
| 01:27.51 | Hanuman | yes |
| 01:28.01 | Hanuman | I'm a big fan of Eterm as well |
| 01:28.12 | Hanuman | although most of the other terminals have copied it's best features |
| 01:28.17 | tyce | flux has a really cool tab system though |
| 01:28.29 | tyce | definately, eterm is all I use |
| 01:28.57 | tyce | transparency is a nice touch to any desktop |
| 01:29.42 | tyce | brb |
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| 02:53.58 | Hanuman | anyone know how to configure kdm in redhat? |
| 02:54.35 | Hanuman | It's still trying to load gdm even though I uninstalled. I want it to run kdm now - is there a config file somewhere I'm missing? |
| 03:01.15 | tyce | you dont still have a gdm process running? |
| 03:04.03 | tyce | do do |
| 03:04.14 | Hanuman | tyce: nope |
| 03:06.25 | Hanuman | nm - I did |
| 03:06.30 | Hanuman | that was the problem I believe |
| 03:08.41 | tyce | cool |
| 03:09.11 | tyce | yeah, if the process is still it hasn't really been removed yet |
| 03:09.26 | tyce | dealt with that on my end before |
| 03:09.27 | Hanuman | Now to figure out how to make the login not look so boring |
| 03:09.39 | tyce | :) Good luck with that one. |
| 03:09.55 | Hanuman | Ximian's login is so pretty - wish I could have the ximian login w/ kde as my desktop |
| 03:10.18 | tyce | I just stopped using any of them, so I have the most boring login of all... $ start |
| 03:10.23 | tyce | startx that is |
| 03:10.44 | tyce | ximian is just sexy all the way round |
| 03:11.43 | Hanuman | yeah - I'm trying to make this easy for my wife, though so a graphical login is nice |
| 03:11.59 | Hanuman | If I could combine ximian with kde I'd be a happy man |
| 03:12.01 | tyce | definately |
| 03:12.12 | Hanuman | I want animated icons in ximian |
| 03:12.52 | tyce | I used to share a pc with my brother and I had him fooled for a long time thinking he was using windows, when really VMWare was just running over top of linux ;) |
| 03:13.39 | Jayce^ | Hanuman, in the kde control panel you can modify the kdm screen |
| 03:13.39 | Hanuman | lol |
| 03:13.52 | Hanuman | Jayce^: yeah - I'm experimenting with that right now |
| 03:14.11 | Hanuman | What would be really cool for my wife is to mimic the "My Computer" icon somehow |
| 03:14.46 | Jayce^ | actually, there is some kde package that does some of that stuff |
| 03:14.57 | Hanuman | do you know the name by chance? |
| 03:14.59 | Jayce^ | makes a "control panel" that's a lot like xp's, and such |
| 03:15.01 | Jayce^ | nope |
| 03:15.05 | Jayce^ | just remember seeing it once |
| 03:15.22 | Hanuman | not necessary - I don't want to mimic windows completely - just a couple features |
| 03:15.26 | tyce | I believe in KDE you can tell that button what to actually open up, from there you could just have it open konquerer or something like that. Would look semi-like an file-explorer window |
| 03:15.58 | Hanuman | I think I'm just going to create a directory with symlinks to my mount points |
| 03:17.25 | tyce | that works |
| 03:18.01 | tyce | just sit her down and and teach her some basic unix shell commands.... that would go over well, right? |
| 03:18.29 | Hanuman | yeah - right |
| 03:18.42 | Hanuman | she figured out how to change the wallpaper the other day. That was impressive |
| 03:18.54 | tyce | hahaha... nice |
| 03:22.04 | tyce | anyone in here ever play with crossover? |
| 03:22.36 | tyce | specifically their quicktime and WMp plugins? |
| 03:22.48 | Hanuman | nope |
| 03:22.57 | Hanuman | well, kinda - in beta |
| 03:23.02 | Hanuman | didn't work very well, though |
| 03:24.12 | tyce | thats what Im discovering with their trial |
| 03:28.36 | Hanuman | just use the mplayer plugin for mozilla |
| 03:29.00 | Hanuman | although I don't know if that works with anything but sound |
| 03:32.48 | hans | tyce: are you the tyler involved in standing in line last week? |
| 03:34.57 | Hanuman | goodnight uys |
| 03:35.01 | Hanuman | guys |
| 03:40.49 | tyce | yes I am |
| 03:40.56 | hans | we need to get together |
| 03:41.01 | tyce | ok |
| 03:41.06 | hans | i have your ticket |
| 03:41.10 | tyce | great |
| 03:42.13 | tyce | wednesday ok for you? |
| 03:46.03 | tyce | Im free till a little after 3 |
| 03:46.36 | hans | that should be fine. dan says you are on campus? |
| 03:48.37 | tyce | yeah, I live on univ. ave |
| 03:48.50 | tyce | just south of provo high |
| 03:49.00 | hans | I'll be at work most of the day. room 152 CB on campus |
| 03:49.22 | hans | or i may be working from home in the morning. best thing would be to find me here first, double check |
| 03:49.31 | tyce | ok |
| 03:49.34 | tyce | sounds fine |
| 03:49.41 | hans | night |
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| 04:17.53 | jalance_ | anyone alive in here? |
| 04:30.24 | tyce | yep |
| 04:31.44 | jalance_ | are you familiar with adding new hard drives? |
| 04:33.47 | tyce | sure |
| 04:34.42 | jalance_ | ok, well if I cat /proc/ide I can see my hard drive, but it isn't showing up in /dev/hdc (master on secondary controller). I can't fdisk it or mount it |
| 04:35.31 | tyce | was it previously formatted? |
| 04:35.32 | jalance_ | I'm not sure how to get the dev entries to show up so that I can start manipulating the drive |
| 04:35.41 | jalance_ | it is blank |
| 04:36.08 | tyce | how about dmesg |
| 04:36.19 | jalance_ | I might add that I booted into windows (gasp!) and it shows up there. |
| 04:36.24 | tyce | does it show that the drive was picked up without any errors? |
| 04:36.34 | jalance_ | dmesg finds it ok |
| 04:36.41 | tyce | and that it was setup on /dev/hdc ? |
| 04:37.23 | jalance_ | hdc: Maxtor 91024U4, ATA DISK drive |
| 04:37.23 | jalance_ | hdc: DMA disabled |
| 04:37.54 | tyce | and so what does it tell you when you run fdsik /dev/hdc ? |
| 04:38.19 | jalance_ | Unable to open /dev/hdc |
| 04:38.22 | tyce | fdisk/fdsik |
| 04:38.43 | jalance_ | there is no such file as /dev/hdc |
| 04:39.13 | jalance_ | # ls /dev/hd* |
| 04:39.14 | jalance_ | /dev/hda@ /dev/hda1@ /dev/hda2@ /dev/hdb@ /dev/hdb1@ /dev/hdb2@ /dev/hdb3@ |
| 04:40.12 | jalance_ | # ls /proc/ide |
| 04:40.13 | jalance_ | drivers hda@ hdb@ hdc@ ide0/ ide1/ via |
| 04:40.28 | tyce | what does df givce you currently? |
| 04:40.46 | jalance_ | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 04:40.46 | jalance_ | /dev/hdb1 29G 24G 4.3G 85% / |
| 04:40.46 | jalance_ | /dev/hdb3 15G 11G 2.9G 80% /home |
| 04:40.46 | jalance_ | /dev/hda1 9.8G 4.5G 5.4G 46% /mnt/win_c |
| 04:40.47 | jalance_ | /dev/hda2 28G 11G 17G 40% /mnt/win_c2 |
| 04:44.46 | jalance_ | I think I just figured it out. brb |
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| 06:19.45 | tyce | ye |
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| 13:17.24 | hans | should I interview with microsoft? |
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| 13:36.47 | Hanuman | hans: If the pay is good, yeah |
| 13:37.09 | Hanuman | Just make sure they know you still like Linux better |
| 13:37.21 | Hanuman | Maybe you could convert them |
| 13:37.23 | Hanuman | ;-) |
| 13:38.06 | Hanuman | They want you to interview with them? |
| 13:45.39 | hans | yeah |
| 13:46.09 | hans | it'd be fun, and if no other jobs come up I would accept an offer there - I'm not above working there, just not my first choice |
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| 13:46.42 | hans | but part of me feels almost guilty because really what I want most is to interview with them because I've heard so much about there interviews and what better practice than to interview with them? |
| 13:48.52 | Hanuman | hans: I'm not for their software or anything, but it sure looks good on a resume. I hear the benefits are great and they treat their programmers very well. |
| 13:49.13 | Hanuman | You could always try to transfer to their hotmail division and work on bsd |
| 13:49.39 | Hanuman | Besides, you'd get to see Bill Gate's infamous geek haven of a mansion |
| 13:50.44 | Hanuman | I've thought about it for awhile too, and I think if they offered me a job I'd take it (as long as I could continue to contribute to OSS). It would definitely be an inroads to a much more secure job in the future. |
| 13:51.02 | hans | Hanuman: looks good on a resume to most people, but I wonder whether unix/linux shops look down on it (which is the type of place I really want to end up at, or at least for a good portion of my career) |
| 13:51.12 | Hanuman | That's a good point |
| 13:51.33 | hans | i'm sure not all would - some would see it as an advantage perhaps and others would be open minded |
| 13:51.41 | Hanuman | It probably depends on how big of a Linux shop it is |
| 13:51.58 | Hanuman | the smaller ones tend to be a bit more close-minded |
| 13:52.25 | Hanuman | the bigger ones tend to have a business perspective in mind and see you as having a broad-minded perspective on things |
| 13:52.41 | Hanuman | at least I would imagine |
| 13:53.14 | Hanuman | You could always go work for Novell afterwards. ;-) |
| 13:53.15 | hans | still I don't think working at MS would be a total shutout for even the most close-minded, if other merit is there. e.g. if I make official debian developer |
| 13:53.27 | Hanuman | yes |
| 13:54.02 | Hanuman | I have a strong theory that I think Longhorn may start moving towards using some sort of UNIX flavor as its backend, and that is why it is taking so long |
| 13:54.34 | Hanuman | It would be a smart move with the increasing popularity of Linux, and the favor towards Macintosh because of their move in doing that |
| 13:57.07 | Hanuman | I've thought of the same things - if I can have a well-rounded, yet Linux specific resume, I can only see that improving my chances of getting a job through my resume |
| 13:58.28 | Hanuman | I'm working on my OCP right now, and will probably even get MCSE certified as well for that side of things, but I'll probably also do similar things to improve my credibility in using and programming OSS as well. |
| 14:52.56 | hans | so google is reporting low-carb diets allow people to eat more and still lose weight. funny thing is none of the articles I've read yet have any clue as to why |
| 14:54.06 | hans | yet a new york times bestseller spells it out quite clearly: the kinds and amounts of carbs we in the developed world eat causes insulin overdose (because the body secretes insulin in response to blood sugar levels) |
| 14:54.31 | hans | insulin tells the body to store fat and blocks glucagon which tells the body to burn fat |
| 14:55.18 | hans | (not to mention ushering in diabetes by overtaxing the sugar regulation system) |
| 14:55.32 | Hanuman | hans: an atkins diet is actually very good for diabetics because of this |
| 14:55.42 | Hanuman | especially those that suffer with being overweight |
| 14:55.49 | hans | almost all diabetics do |
| 14:56.41 | Hanuman | taking out the carbs puts your body into cutosis (don't ask me how that's spelled) |
| 14:57.22 | Hanuman | The problem is you can't be on the diet forever, and when you come off, you almost always gain back a bunch of weight |
| 14:58.06 | Hanuman | it's a good method for quick weight-loss, but then afterwards a good, healthy, well-balanced diet is needed to keep off that weight further on |
| 14:58.19 | hans | i'm not talking a crash no-carb diet |
| 14:58.22 | Hanuman | (My wife tells me all about this all the time because she is on Atkins right now) |
| 14:58.25 | hans | I'm talking a low-sugar lifestyle |
| 14:58.35 | hans | get the book sugar busters |
| 14:58.46 | Hanuman | hans: definitely |
| 14:58.56 | Hanuman | I will have to read that |
| 14:59.45 | hans | it's an easy read. took my wife and I one day |
| 14:59.47 | levi | ketosis |
| 14:59.57 | levi | That's how you spell it. ;) |
| 15:00.03 | Hanuman | levi: tnx |
| 15:00.37 | levi | But I like sugar! It is yummy. |
| 15:00.51 | hans | this is true |
| 15:01.00 | levi | I like sucrose and fructose and lactose, mmmm. Sweet is good. |
| 15:01.12 | hans | well fructose isn't all that bad |
| 15:01.25 | Hanuman | For a good exercise program, I recommend pilates. I haven't tried it yet, but man - my wife can now do exercises I couldn't dream of doing. |
| 15:01.30 | hans | nor lactose, I think (at least bad in the sugar/insulin sense) |
| 15:01.45 | Hanuman | I just like sweet things |
| 15:01.50 | Hanuman | I don't care what they're made of |
| 15:02.01 | levi | I don't see why fructose and lactose would not count as sugars, because they are. |
| 15:02.06 | hans | but, you'd be surprised at what is: potatoes, corn, refined wheat flour (e.g. white bread), white rice |
| 15:02.08 | Hanuman | a little chocolate added in is always nice, too |
| 15:02.14 | levi | But then, I'm not a food science person. |
| 15:02.16 | hans | levi: they're sugars, but have a lower glycemic index |
| 15:02.26 | hans | glycemic index == how quick the body turns it into glucose |
| 15:02.27 | levi | Mmmmm, chocolate. |
| 15:02.43 | hans | levi: actually, chocolate that's more than 60% cocoa is ok too |
| 15:02.55 | levi | That's the best kind! |
| 15:02.59 | hans | yup :) |
| 15:03.06 | levi | I had some 77% dark chocolate a while ago. |
| 15:03.27 | hans | whole grain (flour|rice) is good |
| 15:03.35 | hans | and fruit is good |
| 15:03.46 | hans | and of course vegetables and beans |
| 15:04.21 | hans | but the interesting thing is, from this perspective, fats are better for you than sugars. eg a steak probably more healthy than eating the mashed potatoes |
| 15:05.06 | Hanuman | yes, although alot of leafy-green vegetables along with the stake is even more healthy |
| 15:05.20 | Hanuman | At least I heard that somewhere |
| 15:05.25 | hans | naturally |
| 15:05.52 | hans | protein helps regulate your blood sugar, and tempers the other carbs that you're eating to a degree |
| 15:05.57 | Hanuman | Cool - just convinced our Pres to let me install OpenOffice on our cash registers |
| 15:06.10 | hans | cash registers? |
| 15:06.18 | hans | wow, so you can write novels while waiting for customers? |
| 15:06.18 | Hanuman | yeah - we have some local stores in the VA area |
| 15:06.58 | Hanuman | no - we run Windows boxes that have cash register software on them. The managers can use OO to do spreadsheets, etc. for keeping track of employees |
| 15:07.04 | Hanuman | saves the need for another computer |
| 15:08.35 | hans | do you use gps to help keep track of employees, too? |
| 15:09.40 | levi | "All employees must turn over their gps logs at the end of the business day." |
| 15:10.37 | Hanuman | gps? |
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| 15:21.43 | hans | Hanuman: geographic... |
| 15:22.33 | Hanuman | lol |
| 15:23.08 | Hanuman | Only the stores keep track of employee hours, and I don't think the employees even have to report - the managers do it all. |
| 15:23.33 | Hanuman | hans: I shot myself in the foot last night after yesterday's conversation |
| 15:23.50 | Hanuman | I installed kde and uninstalled gnome and ximian |
| 15:24.18 | Hanuman | but redhat's rpm failed to disable the process of gdm that was running in the background when it uninstalled gnome |
| 15:24.41 | Hanuman | so when I tried to re-login using a graphical login, it tried to run something that didn't exist |
| 15:25.03 | Hanuman | it worked as soon as I disabled the process |
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| 16:50.23 | Jayce^ | how do you do an OR in a procmail recipie? want two possible catches |
| 16:56.21 | hans | something like this? * (Subject: foo|Cc: me@my.com) |
| 16:56.34 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:56.39 | hans | if you don't want to do it in the regexp itself |
| 16:56.44 | hans | then |
| 16:57.07 | Jayce^ | like I want a series of lines, any one of them would trigger that.. |
| 16:58.00 | hans | you can do a series of recipies, but not conditions. "Conditions are anded; if there are no conditions the result will be true by default." |
| 16:58.08 | hans | :0 |
| 16:58.15 | hans | * Subject: foo |
| 16:58.19 | hans | foo/ |
| 16:58.22 | hans | :0E |
| 16:58.35 | Jayce^ | what's the E ? |
| 16:58.36 | hans | * Cc: me@my.com |
| 16:58.39 | hans | foo/ |
| 16:59.16 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.27 | hans | of course, since if the first matched it would have delivered and never considered the second they are semantically equivalent to two recipes without the 'E' flag in this example |
| 17:00.37 | hans | i think the only useful case for using 'E' would be to do an else-if |
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| 19:25.22 | Hanuman | anyone here NASCAR fans? |
| 19:25.54 | hans | what? NASA? |
| 19:26.03 | Hanuman | :-) |
| 19:26.23 | Hanuman | it's that weird thing they call a sport out East of Utah |
| 19:26.42 | Hanuman | involves cars, marketing, and beer |
| 19:27.02 | Hanuman | oh - and you have to be conservative and think the South won to watch it |
| 19:27.14 | hans | i'd rather go to the rodeo |
| 19:27.22 | Hanuman | You have to have at least one confederate flag in your home as well |
| 19:27.45 | hans | yeah, i always thought it was a sport for (displaced) southerners |
| 19:28.11 | Hanuman | The reason I ask is because we're doing a promotion with one of the drivers and he just walked past my office |
| 19:28.26 | Hanuman | If I hadn't lived out here I wouldn't have cared, but now I think it's pretty cool |
| 19:28.31 | hans | heh |
| 19:28.45 | Hanuman | still don't drink beer, though |
| 19:28.50 | hans | get him to take you for a ride around the track. that would be cool |
| 19:29.12 | Hanuman | wish I could - I'm not involved in the meetings with him unfortunately |
| 19:29.50 | Hanuman | But you could see our company logo on his car sometime |
| 19:30.21 | Hanuman | I just hope they put the website name, rather than the company name |
| 19:30.26 | Hanuman | website is my responsibility |
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| 22:11.09 | brailsmt_work | can anyone explain this? /home/michael/vmac/src/driver/driver.h|72 error| `pair' was not declared in this scope |
| 22:11.15 | brailsmt_work | and line 72 is this |
| 22:11.22 | brailsmt_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.34 | brailsmt_work | and is just a class definition... |
| 22:12.00 | brailsmt_work | i #include <map> which #includes <pair> |
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| 22:55.52 | Jayce^ | ward DI drive tonight... amazing how many old t-shirts, from companies that I really don't like I have :) |
| 22:58.25 | tyce | :) |
| 23:01.06 | neybar | I hear that... |
| 23:01.14 | neybar | tyce: thanks for your help last night |
| 23:04.29 | Hanuman | help! |
| 23:04.58 | Hanuman | I just did an apt-get upgrade on a package and it gives me this now when I try to use anything w/ rpm: |
| 23:05.04 | Hanuman | rpmdb: unable to join the environment |
| 23:05.04 | Hanuman | error: db4 error(11) from dbenv->open: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 23:05.04 | Hanuman | error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Resource temporarily unavailable (11) |
| 23:05.07 | Hanuman | error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm |
| 23:05.09 | Hanuman | rpmdb: unable to join the environment |
| 23:05.12 | Hanuman | error: db4 error(11) from dbenv->open: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 23:05.14 | Hanuman | error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm |
| 23:05.21 | Hanuman | I'm guessing I need to reinstall rpm - do I do it from source? |
| 23:09.40 | tyce | neybar, no worries |
| 23:11.18 | Jayce^ | http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=82276&threshold=0&commentsort=0&tid=103&mode=thread&cid=7214084 |
| 23:11.24 | Jayce^ | time to rant on /. again :) |
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| 23:27.39 | Hanuman | well, I was ranting but stupid Mozilla crashed on me |
| 23:29.38 | tyce | HA! welcome to my world |
| 23:30.00 | tyce | Im telling ya... time to try out epiphany or galeon |
| 23:30.07 | Jayce^ | konq |
| 23:30.07 | Hanuman | what's the best way to reinstall rpm on RH9 when it's broken? |
| 23:30.14 | Hanuman | konq crashed on me, too |
| 23:30.48 | Hanuman | is there a way w/o doing from source? |
| 23:40.08 | emcnabb | I really like Firebird |
| 23:40.35 | emcnabb | how is rpm broken? |
| 23:41.14 | Hanuman | emcnabb: figured it out - I needed to delete my stale lockfiles |
| 23:42.23 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 23:42.33 | emcnabb | RH9 has a bad default rpm |
| 23:42.43 | Hanuman | just figured that out |
| 23:42.50 | emcnabb | did you upgrade RPM? |
| 23:42.59 | Hanuman | I think that's what broke it |
| 23:43.17 | Hanuman | I think now that the lock-files are removed it should be fine |
| 23:58.59 | hans | i like firebird too |
| 23:59.23 | Hanuman | I haven't tried firebird - is it pretty stable? |