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00:01.13emcnabbnope
00:10.31sjansenHah. Broke it again.
00:10.44sjansenMight be related to division of memory.
00:11.02sjansen*sigh*
00:17.02emcnabbsjansen, I'll be willing to take it off your hands
00:17.50sjansenPrice?
00:19.15emcnabb$0.00
00:19.24emcnabbwe're buds, right?
00:21.56hansooh ooh, I bid $1.00
00:22.09emcnabbI bid $1.01
00:22.16emcnabbsold!
00:22.21hanshey you're not the seller
00:22.27hansI declare a recount
00:23.33sjansenKeep going boys.
00:23.40hans$2
00:24.00emcnabb$2.01
00:24.05sjansenI'm going to assume that each of you is talking * 10^2
00:24.32emcnabb10^-2
00:24.47emcnabbit's getting lower as time goes on
00:25.01Jayce^2.02
00:25.17emcnabb3.1415
00:25.50Jayce^3.14156
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00:28.46emcnabb3.14159265
00:31.22hans$5
00:31.32hans500 cents
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00:32.43sjansenAnd they say Linux is more stable.
00:35.12emcnabbjust be a pal and give it to me
00:50.05sjansenTell you what, we can trade. Buy me this and its yours. http://ic.dealtime.com/xPC-Sony_CDX_T70MX
00:51.30sjansenScratch that, I want this instead: http://ic.dealtime.com/xPF-JVC_CH_X1500RF
00:54.20sjansenI just can't decide.
00:58.54hanssjansen: don't you really want to go out and buy a football? how about a nice pennant?
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01:21.46sjansenTime saver my foot.
03:14.17emcnabbafter the protest we had a chat with McBride
03:14.33emcnabbwe have the .ogg file
03:15.06emcnabbif you can share some bandwidth we'll be posting it soon to groklaw (maybe slashdot) that would be great
03:15.15emcnabbbtdownloadcurses.py --url http://pel.cs.byu.edu/~sorenson/SCO/Docs/mcbride.ogg.torrent
03:22.41BradipoNow, if only bittorrent would add anonymity and encryption. :-)
03:24.15BradipoAnyone know how bittorrent works?
03:24.28BradipoDoes it establish a network of peers and their relative RTT?
03:24.31Jayce^roughly.. what do you need toknow?
03:24.34Jayce^kinda..
03:24.41Jayce^you have a tracker that helps organize that..
03:25.10Jayce^remembers 'seeds' (those with the full file), and then who has how much, so they can share the little bit they have
03:25.30BradipoSo, does it distribute a file out onto many nodes?
03:25.35Jayce^http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/group/1033/view/8950
03:25.49Jayce^Bradipo, yes...  you are pulling from many locations at once
03:26.00BradipoHey, there's Jayce^ playing a game!
03:26.09Jayce^that was some of us in the line yesterday, before it stretched out..
03:26.10Jayce^ayup
03:26.12BradipoThat's sweet.
03:26.30BradipoSo, do you have to inject content into the BT network?
03:26.45BradipoI've been playing around with GNUnet and like how it is organized.
03:26.46Jayce^neybar is the head you see too
03:26.49BradipoBut it just doesn't work very well yet.
03:28.09Jayce^bt wokrs well, since it's not a single cohesive network..
03:28.15BradipoRight.
03:28.26Jayce^torrents are not related at all..
03:28.27BradipoI was referring to GNUnet.
03:28.49Jayce^yeah
03:28.57Jayce^I was showing the bt side...
03:29.06BradipoI see.
03:29.21BradipoSo, how do I make something available via BT?
03:30.58Jayce^you have to define a 'torrrent' file
03:31.00BradipoJust create a .torrent file?
03:31.05Jayce^which is a description of your share..
03:31.14Jayce^and register with a 'tracker'
03:31.28Bradipook.
03:31.35emcnabbit's kind of complicated
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03:48.17BradipoDoesn't really sound complicated.
03:48.23BradipoAfter working with GNUnet...
04:08.28emcnabbit took us a while to get it working right; it turns out the BYU was blocking some stuff though
04:33.24BradipoGotta love that.
05:20.28brailsmthans you there?
05:20.44brailsmton of the guys in #vmac does RT in linux...
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13:42.01emcnabbmorning
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13:59.39Hanumanahoyhoy
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14:20.18HanumanNice picture Jayce^ and neybar - who's the other guy in it?
14:22.39sjansenGood morning.
14:22.40sjansenURL?
14:24.24Hanumanhttp://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/group/1033/view/8950
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15:12.57Hanumanlol:
15:13.00HanumanDear bugtraq@securityfocus.com,
15:13.00HanumanThere are few bad news on RPC DCOM vulnerability:
15:13.00Hanuman1.  Universal  exploit  for  MS03-039  exists in-the-wild, PINK FLOYD is
15:13.00Hanumanagain actual.
15:13.00Hanuman2.  It  was  reported  by exploit author (and confirmed), Windows XP SP1
15:13.03Hanumanwith  all  security  fixes  installed still vulnerable to variant of the
15:13.05Hanumansame bug. Windows 2000/2003 was not tested. For a while only DoS exploit
15:13.08Hanumanexists,  but  code execution is probably possible. Technical details are
15:13.10Hanumansent to Microsoft, waiting for confirmation.
15:13.13HanumanDear  ISPs.  Please  instruct  you customers to use personal fireWALL in
15:13.17HanumanWindows XP.
15:17.17HanumanDon't know if personal firewall will do much good
15:21.26Hanumanooh - another site with no mysql password:
15:21.28Hanumanhttp://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=267&mode=&order=0&thold=0
15:21.46HanumanWarning: mysql_select_db(): Access denied for user: 'uninet@localhost' (Using password: NO) in /home/uninet/public_html/open/includes/sql_layer.php on line 78
15:22.06Hanumanwell, maybe not if it's saying access denied
15:22.38Hanumanalthough I think it's just saying that because it's being /.'ed
15:23.33Hanumangotta love PHP
15:35.33sjansenArgs, looks like I might actually have to learn a tiny bit about awk.
15:36.25Jayce^what fer?
15:37.30HanumanJayce^ sees an opportunity to teach about Perl ;-)
15:39.11sjansenMacro transformation in a makefile. Must be as portable as possible.
15:40.03sjansenBasically, prepend something to each token in a whitepspace delimited list.
15:40.21sjansenWas hoping to get away with just using sed or a quick shell loop.
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15:49.37Jayce^sjansen, any chance you could be out and about in orem this morning?
15:49.41Jayce^need to get you your ticket
15:59.03Hanumansjansen: you could do that from command-line with perl, depending on what you're trying to do.
16:00.54sjansenI'm aware of perl -e but don't want the dependency.
16:01.29sjansenJayce^: I thought hans was going to get the ticket to me.
16:02.43Jayce^he's got the tickets for the other group, I bought our group (hans traded with dan since I had dans money, and he had the other groups).
16:03.24Jayce^so I can give you dan and yours, since you two gave me money
16:04.00sjansenOkay. I just let the two of you figure it out as long as I get a ticket.
16:04.09sjansenWhen and where were you thinking?
16:04.40Jayce^I have to head down to orem (costco and our mechanics) here in about an hour
16:04.49sjansenBTW, awk is 1 indexed, not 0. How anti-intuitive.
16:05.18sjansenAny chance I could talk you into dropping by my work?
16:08.59sjansenI'm near the stadium.
16:11.38sjansenAnd here we have the makefile solution in all its beauty: MODDEDARGS=`awk 'BEGIN {len=split("$(ARGS)", args); for (i=1; i<=len; i++) printf "prefix%s ", args[i]; exit;}'`
16:11.44Jayce^might be able to get down there..
16:12.42sjansenBesides, then you can see the building and feel even better about working from home.
16:12.54bonez39if I try to move a directory, and the system responds that it's a read-only file system..what am I doing wrong
16:13.41sjansenTrying to modify a read-only file system. ;-)
16:14.54bonez39sjansen? how do I do that? need to move to single user, move the file, then retry?
16:15.07bonez39is that why? the file system is marked read only?
16:21.35Hanumananyone else in a bad mood today from last-night's game?
16:23.41brailsmtbut not that bad...
16:24.21brailsmti still really like John Beck, better than I like Berry
16:24.57sjansenbonez39: The first question is, is the file system really read only. If it it, why?
16:25.03brailsmtthe thing that bugged me most about last night was the inability of O line to block
16:25.38brailsmtand the incredibly poor play of the secondary
16:26.46brailsmtother than that i thought we played decently, if john beck had more time to do his thing, and if the secondary had actually showed up to play, then the game would have been completely different...
16:29.40Hanumanyeah - I think secondary has always been a problem for us this year
16:29.47HanumanCSU just figured that out
16:30.02HanumanLittle did I know how much of a problem it actually was
16:30.33HanumanI thought we had an awesome D until last night
16:31.55HanumanAnd I'm dealing with a Windows ME machine right now - that doesn't help either
16:32.20HanumanIf cars can do recalls, why can't Microsoft?
16:34.19HanumanI install Office 2k and all of the sudden it won't pull up a domain-login screen any more.  All the settings are correct, just no domain logon.  Sucks to be using Windows ME
16:34.43Hanumanwell, not using it, but installing it for another employee because I can't get our President to let me get a decent OS
16:37.40HanumanI guess I should say "Sucks to be ME"
16:42.11sjansenArg. I hate make.
16:42.29sjansenActually, I love make. I just wish this weren't so hard.
16:42.45sjansenI just don't want to end up recreating autoconf.
17:02.15sjansen~slashdot
17:03.11sjansenAnd Linux Journal says.... Vim wins!
17:13.03leviGah, I am now in dependancy hell.
17:52.29brailsmt~slashdot
17:53.32brailsmtthat first article is very interesting...
17:54.13brailsmtnm, the second article is the one i was refering too
17:54.16brailsmts/too/to
17:57.40hansJayce^: You can have dan buy tyler's ticket off you (tyler is dan's friend), and I can give stuart his ticket
17:57.58hanssince you're going to see dan anyway, and I'm going to see stuart 3 times a week anyway.
17:58.18hansbut whatever - just let me know what you do
17:58.35hans(don't let stuart buy tyler's ticket and hawk it for $100 ;-)
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18:23.37brailsmt~slashdot
18:24.09brailsmtibot is wrong...
18:24.11brailsmt: I don't know, could you explain it?
18:24.23brailsmtScience: Element 110 Now Darmstadtium
18:24.23brailsmtPosted by michael on Friday October 10, @02:15PM
18:24.23brailsmtfrom the ununoctium-fiasco-safely-behind-us dept.
18:24.23brailsmtphotoblur writes "It's time to update your periodic table of the elements! Element 110 has been officially named 'darmstadtium' (Ds), after the GSI lab in Darmstadt, Germany. The GSI lab has also been officially recognized for discovering element 111."
18:24.34brailsmtyou, ibot, are wrong...
18:24.40brailsmtthere is nothing to explain...
18:52.02sjansenhans: Jayce^ gave me Dan's ticket.
18:53.59Hanuman_workbrailsmt: did you submit that to /.?
18:54.35Hanuman_work~slashdot
18:54.56Hanuman_workbrailsmt: looks like you taught ibot a lesson
19:14.56brailsmt_workHanuman_work: no, i didn't i just happened to see it, and thought it was cool so was giving ibot the chance to show the world it can be useful...  but, alas, it utterly failed
19:15.05brailsmt_work:)
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20:18.38Hanuman_workit? - ibot is a he, my friend.  He wasn't able to make it to the LOTR line for some reason, though.
20:19.05Hanuman_workcool - my wife fixed my router at home...
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