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| 15:06.18 | Hanuman | morning all |
| 15:13.22 | Bradipo | Moin |
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| 15:18.49 | Hanuman | Anyone know if Rhapsody works w/ Linux at all? |
| 15:19.24 | elg | Hanuman: my Rhapsody in Blue CD plays just fine |
| 15:19.37 | Hanuman | heh - I have that one, too |
| 15:19.47 | Hanuman | I meant the music service |
| 15:20.23 | Hanuman | I just got a 1 month free-trial and I really like it, but I don't know if I want to continue subscribing if it won't work on all computers I run it on. |
| 15:20.50 | Hanuman | on-demand |
| 15:20.53 | Hanuman | by album |
| 15:21.18 | Hanuman | and the best thing about it is I can burn them to CD for $.75 a song |
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| 15:22.50 | Hanuman | lol - "Linus to SCO: 'Please Grow Up'" |
| 15:22.54 | Hanuman | ~slashdot |
| 15:54.15 | synic_ | any of you folks used cvs ? |
| 15:56.52 | elg | indeed |
| 15:56.54 | Hanuman | yes |
| 15:57.30 | synic_ | I don't get it. |
| 15:57.35 | synic_ | is there a daemon for it? |
| 15:58.01 | synic_ | I can't seem to find a cvsd package or anything |
| 16:00.00 | synic_ | what I wanna do is have the cvsroot be on an openbsd server... and people using windows and linux will be developing |
| 16:00.02 | elg | no daemon |
| 16:00.27 | synic_ | so.. I'm guessing the developers will need cvs - what else will they need? |
| 16:00.51 | elg | you can set up pserver access, but that's archaic and hard |
| 16:01.09 | elg | the normal way nowdays is to give them ssh access, then they can use cvs remotely |
| 16:01.42 | elg | pserver access is actuated via inetd. I've done it once but don't remember much about it so you'd have to look on the web. |
| 16:01.57 | synic_ | ok, I can do with the ssh method... |
| 16:02.07 | synic_ | so the cvs program actually connects with ssh? |
| 16:02.36 | elg | it does, if you set the environment variable CVS_RSH=ssh |
| 16:02.51 | elg | e.g. |
| 16:03.04 | synic_ | ah, ok |
| 16:03.17 | elg | CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d username@example.com:/path/to/cvsroot checkout somemodule |
| 16:04.13 | Bradipo | pserver is not difficult at all. |
| 16:04.41 | Bradipo | In fact, if you have Windows users, it will be a lot easier to have them use pserver than try to get them using SSH on Winders. |
| 16:04.46 | synic_ | any good gui CVS clients for windows (so I can convince these fools to use CVS) ? |
| 16:05.05 | elg | if they're fools I'd set up pserver to make it easier to convince them to transition :) |
| 16:05.16 | Bradipo | lol |
| 16:05.19 | elg | Bradipo: I remember having a hard time but I was newer to linux in those days |
| 16:05.29 | synic_ | their not fools... they are most definately afraid of the command line, though |
| 16:05.32 | Bradipo | Oh, yeah, it really isn't that hard. |
| 16:05.43 | Bradipo | The hardest part is creating the users. |
| 16:05.43 | synic_ | er... they're |
| 16:05.55 | Bradipo | Command line cvs in windows sucks. |
| 16:06.02 | Bradipo | Well, I guess command line in Windows in general sucks. |
| 16:06.09 | elg | unless of course you're using cygwin. ;-) |
| 16:06.12 | Bradipo | Right. |
| 16:06.31 | Bradipo | Even that sucks because you know in the back of your mind that you have Winders underneath. |
| 16:06.34 | elg | i have set up wincvs to use ssh before, with the help of putty |
| 16:06.38 | elg | even got passwordless authentication |
| 16:06.44 | elg | but that was most definitely not trivial |
| 16:07.07 | synic_ | hrmm... ok, so I'll set up the pserver method... what client should the windows folks use? |
| 16:07.22 | elg | wincvs or tortoisecvs (something like that) |
| 16:08.40 | synic_ | alright, thanks for the info :) |
| 16:08.49 | elg | http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ |
| 16:46.21 | synic_ | hrmm... wincvs is missing the pserver option |
| 16:46.23 | synic_ | it has ssh... |
| 17:11.01 | synic_ | ah yeah. This is gonna make things much easier. |
| 17:45.29 | brailsmt_work | ssh vmac3 |
| 17:46.21 | brailsmt_work | oops... |
| 17:46.29 | brailsmt_work | wrong window ;) |
| 17:46.42 | Bradipo | I'm starting to get hungry. |
| 17:46.52 | Bradipo | Where's a good place to eat in Happy Valley? |
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| 18:00.45 | brailsmt_work | anyone ever heard of gnatmake? |
| 18:05.27 | synic_ | bleh... I've been banned from #freebsd for harassing the filesystem... |
| 18:10.58 | neybar | Bradipo: what are you in the mood for? |
| 18:20.33 | Hanuman | Bradipo: Tucanos, if you haven't been there |
| 18:23.28 | brailsmt_work | Panda Express if you are on a budget |
| 18:24.00 | brailsmt_work | my personal favorite is Beto's... specifically they have the best bean and cheese burritoe in Utah Valley |
| 18:24.12 | brailsmt_work | s/burritoe/burritos |
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| 18:36.36 | synic_ | when I commit changes with csv commit, it should then be updated on the server, right? |
| 18:41.53 | Hanuman | Of course I have to give my vote for Thai Chili Gardens |
| 18:42.19 | Hanuman | synic_: I'm not an expert, but I've used cvs update, but I think it depends on what you're trying to send to the server |
| 18:42.49 | Hanuman | both have different functions IIRC (it's been 2 years since I actively used it) |
| 18:43.04 | synic_ | it appears as though I use cvs update to merge my changes and the already committed changes locally, and then commit uploads them to the server |
| 18:43.19 | synic_ | but I've commited and no go :( |
| 18:43.31 | Hanuman | oh - yeah, your right |
| 18:43.42 | Hanuman | any errors? |
| 18:43.50 | Hanuman | or just no changes on the server? |
| 18:44.10 | synic_ | no errors... |
| 18:44.23 | synic_ | but if I cvs update, my changes aren't overwritten |
| 18:45.14 | Hanuman | ~lart Hanuman's cvs memory |
| 18:45.29 | synic_ | if I actually get on the server, they are not changed on the server |
| 18:45.54 | Hanuman | I'd make sure you're actually set correctly to connect to the server on commits |
| 18:46.47 | synic_ | hrmm |
| 18:49.23 | synic_ | yeah, it appears as though it's updating everything |
| 18:50.13 | synic_ | do I need to logout of cvs? |
| 18:50.34 | synic_ | nah, that didn't help... |
| 19:26.59 | Hanuman | http://www.lipsons.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/escher/relativity.html |
| 19:27.03 | Hanuman | very cool... |
| 19:28.02 | brailsmt_work | synic_: no you do not logout of cvs |
| 19:28.43 | brailsmt_work | though who knows what crazy stuff you have to do to get cvs to work in windows |
| 19:32.38 | synic_ | brailsmt_work: I figured it out. I was being a moron. |
| 19:40.19 | Hanuman | synic_: what was it? |
| 19:40.48 | synic_ | well, I didn't really understand cvs. I figured the files in cvsroot would match the files on my machine after an update |
| 19:40.53 | synic_ | this is apparently not the case :) |
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| 19:53.39 | Bradipo | Ok, so we went to La Dolce Vita. |
| 20:15.24 | Hanuman | How was it? I've never heard of that one. |
| 20:24.16 | Hanuman | ahhh...I love it when I get all my work done for the day |
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| 20:52.33 | Bradipo | La Dolce Vita is pretty good. |
| 21:03.05 | Hanuman | cya guys later... |
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| 23:23.26 | synic_ | ah... things are much better now. CVS rules. |
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