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| 01:18.08 | LrnChndlr | anyone here? |
| 01:18.41 | LrnChndlr | i am trying to work on an older computer but when i power it on all it does is beep at me, anyone have any ideas? |
| 01:19.04 | LrnChndlr | nothing comes up on the monitor at all |
| 01:19.12 | LrnChndlr | and it starts beeping right away |
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| 02:51.09 | LrnChndlr | jayce^: you there? |
| 03:42.58 | Jayce^ | heh, I am now.. |
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| 12:43.43 | hans | brailsmt_work: not yet. I was going to package it but someone is 'already working on it', although he's not really working on it but rather just sitting there like a bump on a log waiting for the fox library maintainer to submit a new package that fixes some bug that he feels is in the way. |
| 12:44.34 | hans | anyway, it's easy to install the source way if you make sure to compile with the same compiler used to compile the fox libraries. |
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| 14:51.16 | elg | morning all |
| 14:56.43 | elg | can someone do a portscan for me? |
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| 16:13.54 | elg | I'm about to do a mobo/cpu upgrade |
| 16:15.21 | elg | I know this is less-than-optimal for performance, but could I continue to use my current RAM (from my amd k6-2 mobo) if the new mobo supports DDR or SDRAM? (I don't know but I think my ram is pc100 or maybe pc133. I don't know if that's SDRAM or some other kind) |
| 16:16.33 | neybar | that should be ok |
| 16:18.39 | elg | cool. I can spring more ram later. should a 250-watt power supply be ok for an Athlon 2000 or so? |
| 16:19.15 | neybar | that depends on how many devices you have, that is pretty low though |
| 16:20.01 | elg | video, sound, 2 nics |
| 16:20.18 | neybar | 1 hard drive,cdrom,floppy? |
| 16:20.18 | elg | also a scsi card that is only used for scanning which I don't do often |
| 16:20.56 | elg | oh yeah, 2 HDDs (one 80gig and one old 2 gig or something) and a CDR and CDRW drive. I don't use the floppy and would gladly unplug it. :_) |
| 16:21.07 | neybar | you might be able to scrape by, if you get odd power issues then find a 300+ some where |
| 16:22.56 | elg | ok. now about cooling - my case doesn't have any extra fans in it, but I usually leave the side off. ;) |
| 16:23.18 | elg | will I be ok or do I need to find some fans or (hopefully not) a different case? |
| 16:23.21 | neybar | is it an athlonXP? |
| 16:23.29 | elg | that's what I'm looking at, yeah |
| 16:23.32 | elg | 2000 |
| 16:24.31 | neybar | they generate a fair amount of heat, with the case off you should be ok. You might want to look into buying a little nicer heat sink for the cpu though. Check out www.coolerguys.com |
| 16:28.08 | neybar | http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/26003.pdf |
| 16:28.32 | neybar | that has a chart for estimating the size of the power supply that you might need |
| 16:28.59 | elg | cool |
| 16:58.22 | Jayce^ | elg, no, I don't think pc100 fits in a ddr slot |
| 16:58.40 | Jayce^ | get a 300 watt for an XP (amd says they need it) |
| 16:58.53 | Jayce^ | I have 2 ddr stick I want to sell :) |
| 16:58.58 | Jayce^ | 2 256 |
| 17:02.52 | Hanuman | ddr is cool |
| 17:03.00 | elg | $$ is cool |
| 17:03.31 | Hanuman | sometimes Officemax gives away ddr sticks after rebate - you have to watch their ads |
| 17:03.33 | elg | I'm trying to keep it under $150 in this shot |
| 17:03.47 | elg | then I can catch a sale or something for the nice ram. |
| 17:03.48 | Hanuman | Over half of my memory has been free |
| 17:03.55 | elg | Jayce^: but it also takes SDRAM |
| 17:04.54 | Hanuman | SDRAM is more expensive and not as good as ddr IIRC |
| 17:06.14 | elg | Hanuman: but will my pc100 ram be usable |
| 17:06.24 | elg | that is the question |
| 17:07.08 | Hanuman | kingston.com has a wizard I believe that will tell you what works with your MOBO or system |
| 17:12.56 | Jayce^ | elg, pc100 is sdram, if it takes both, then yes.. |
| 17:13.16 | Jayce^ | but if you have a xp 2000, I didn't think they could work with just old sdram, they need ddr.. |
| 17:24.01 | elg | so even though the motherboard would take sdram, the cpu wouldn't? |
| 17:25.35 | Jayce^ | no, if the mobo says it can take it, it shoudl be able too |
| 17:25.43 | Jayce^ | but if you are in the market, I can sell you some cheap |
| 17:38.18 | elg | how much? |
| 17:39.11 | Jayce^ | well, what's the current selling price for 256 chips? |
| 17:39.14 | Jayce^ | pc 2100 |
| 17:39.58 | Jayce^ | current pricewatch best price is $32 each |
| 18:11.59 | Hanuman | emcnabb: you in here? |
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| 18:17.53 | sjansen | What, no topic? |
| 18:18.42 | *** topic/#utah by Bradipo -> asdf |
| 18:19.15 | *** topic/#utah by Bradipo -> http://www.dnstuff.com/ |
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| 18:22.11 | neybar | anyone know of any job openings? |
| 18:22.35 | neybar | in utah - slc prefered |
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| 18:40.45 | Hanuman | Jayce^: if you like trying the rebate way, pc2100 go for as low as $4.99 and sometimes free for 256Mb at stores like officemax, compusa, and staples - check your ads |
| 18:41.12 | Hanuman | But you have to trust you'll get your rebate |
| 18:41.36 | Hanuman | Jayce^: I just realized you were trying to sell him some - hopefully I didn't spoil it |
| 18:41.43 | Hanuman | (sorry) |
| 18:45.30 | Hanuman | $32 is going price, and a pretty good one without the rebates |
| 18:46.28 | Hanuman | It would be nice to get above a gig on my Mb |
| 18:46.33 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://sllug.org http://plug.org http://uug.byu.edu |
| 18:46.36 | Hanuman | s/Mb/Mobo/ |
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| 20:00.28 | hans | argh |
| 20:00.34 | hans | OIT is sooo lame |
| 20:01.09 | hans | they're blocking all my ports, so I can't ssh in from anywhere now, even on-campus |
| 20:01.21 | sjansen | Huh? |
| 20:01.37 | Jayce^ | what? |
| 20:01.42 | Jayce^ | you bad bad port-scanner.. |
| 20:01.50 | tensai | hans: did you try port scanning it? :) |
| 20:03.11 | hans | tensai: I didn't even do that. :) |
| 20:03.31 | hans | I suspect it's a resnet-wide kneejerk against the virii |
| 20:03.35 | hans | but it's quite lame |
| 20:03.57 | hans | sjansen isn't at fault (but if he is he'd better log off now. ;-) |
| 20:04.03 | sjansen | Jayce^: You jerk! Insensitive clod. |
| 20:04.04 | Jayce^ | not being able to ssh would be a real help in combatting virii :D |
| 20:04.20 | Jayce^ | sjansen: just helping out :D |
| 20:04.20 | sjansen | I ought to... why I'm going to.... well I am! |
| 20:05.10 | Jayce^ | ~lart sjansen's flaming skillz |
| 20:05.25 | Jayce^ | ~lart sjansen's flaming skillz |
| 20:05.37 | sjansen | Jayce^: Didn't even notice. Don't have any to be crushed by your puny VAXen. |
| 20:07.27 | hans | "... I understand your desire to mitigate the problems with viruses and worms but please consider the needs of all your customers and not just the computer illiterate users running Microsoft products." |
| 20:07.35 | hans | And I'm in a good mood today. |
| 20:08.08 | Jayce^ | don't be :) |
| 20:08.34 | hans | it's hard not to when you're fixing to upgrade. :) |
| 20:08.58 | Jayce^ | yeah, that is always nice, especially from your position. |
| 20:09.27 | Jayce^ | logitech mx700 |
| 20:09.46 | sjansen | ~lart Jayce^ new mouse |
| 20:24.07 | neybar | http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=18968552&AVSDM=2003%2D08%2D29+19%3A36%3A00&Logo=1&col=dltci&cy=US&brd=1%2C1862%2C1863&lid=630&fn=660&q= |
| 20:24.34 | neybar | check out the desired qualifications... "green or black belt trained" |
| 20:24.50 | neybar | where exactly is this person going to be working at? |
| 20:25.46 | Jayce^ | wow |
| 20:26.14 | neybar | rough crowd... lol |
| 20:27.03 | neybar | being a geek and black belt trained isn't unheard of, that that kinda limits your pool eh? |
| 20:27.17 | Hanuman | Jayce^: I just got one of those, too - how well does it work on Linux? |
| 20:27.25 | Jayce^ | dangit, my friend Paul is just getting his brown, guess he can't get it.. |
| 20:27.32 | Jayce^ | Hanuman, great.. |
| 20:27.52 | Jayce^ | the back/forward buttons obviously don't map right (at first, haven't tried changing them).. |
| 20:28.06 | Hanuman | cool - as soon as I get the money I'm going to get a separate Linux client (besides my server) |
| 20:28.16 | Jayce^ | they instead by default are alternate 2nd and 3rd buttons |
| 20:28.22 | Hanuman | Do you have the alt-tab button? |
| 20:28.36 | Jayce^ | yeah, it isn't set to anything.. |
| 20:28.54 | Hanuman | very cool - is yours wireless? |
| 20:28.57 | Jayce^ | need to find what button x see's it as.. |
| 20:29.02 | Jayce^ | yeah, the 700 is the wireless.. |
| 20:29.22 | Hanuman | I can't remember what number mine is - just got it for my b-day, though |
| 20:29.29 | Jayce^ | corded or not? |
| 20:29.35 | Hanuman | not |
| 20:29.39 | Hanuman | must be the 700 |
| 20:29.40 | Jayce^ | black and silver? all the buttons.. |
| 20:29.42 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 20:29.45 | Hanuman | yup |
| 20:29.51 | Jayce^ | sucker is sweet.. |
| 20:29.55 | Jayce^ | very very accurate.. |
| 20:30.03 | Hanuman | yes - I love it |
| 20:30.15 | Jayce^ | only thing I liked better about my old logitech, is that it glowed blue.. |
| 20:31.33 | Hanuman | I find that annoying - the microsofts all do that |
| 20:31.47 | Hanuman | (but in red) |
| 20:32.08 | Jayce^ | yeah, I don't like the red glow, this one had a soft blue glow, looked really cool.. |
| 20:32.13 | Jayce^ | especially with my case mod :) |
| 20:33.01 | Hanuman | Did you make your own case mod, or buy one of the custom cases from the store? |
| 20:33.09 | Jayce^ | built mine.. |
| 20:33.21 | Jayce^ | built it before they were a decent price |
| 20:34.53 | neybar | when you say "built" you mean you let garion at your case with a can of spray paint and a jigsaw right? |
| 20:35.08 | Jayce^ | haha |
| 20:35.27 | neybar | :-P |
| 20:36.22 | Hanuman | I'd like to get one of those water-cooling units |
| 20:36.39 | Hanuman | and a couple more usb-ports to add on to the front |
| 20:36.52 | neybar | there's a case mod for you... |
| 20:37.12 | Hanuman | Jayce^: have you case-modded your laptop yet? |
| 20:37.18 | Jayce^ | no.. |
| 20:37.26 | neybar | what about all the stickers? |
| 20:38.48 | Hanuman | Screen Savers on TechTV had a cool episode on case-modding your laptop |
| 20:51.21 | hans | just got a call from OIT. They are blocking everything on purpose and the guy said "all I can say is, I'm sorry". So I asked who I can complain to, he put me on hold, and then came back and said they're looking into how to accomodate me so I can ssh and will get back with me. |
| 20:51.38 | hans | meanwhile, schemes of setting up a VPN are coming to the forefront. :) |
| 20:53.01 | sjansen | If you find out who to complain to, let me know. I'm going to be annoyed if I can't SSH to my machine. |
| 20:54.19 | Hanuman | What are BYU's rules on setting up Wireless LANs? |
| 20:56.00 | sjansen | Don't ask, don't tell. ;-) |
| 20:56.36 | sjansen | They've cracked down on my department. We complied for awhile then ignored them after a month or so. |
| 20:57.10 | sjansen | You can find open points in a number of places. Eventually, campus wide wireless requiring authentication will be available. But not moving very quickly. |
| 20:57.49 | Jayce^ | neybar, those don't count.. |
| 20:59.26 | Hanuman | These days of wireless lans remind me of the time I had an old HP 48G Calculator - all the teachers didn't know enough about them to ban them from tests |
| 20:59.59 | Hanuman | They would tell us we could use our calculators, but those of us with the 48G's had huge advantages over the other students with normal calcs |
| 21:00.28 | Hanuman | well, gotta go - cya guys later |
| 21:00.45 | sjansen | Rasafrasin east coasters. |
| 21:02.38 | Jayce^ | what's the dotfile that x will automatically load, when started from kdm/xdm/?dm ? |
| 21:02.47 | Jayce^ | not .xinitrc |
| 21:16.18 | tensai | Jayce^: .xsession ? |
| 21:16.41 | Jayce^ | thought that' what it was.. |
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| 22:23.11 | hans | Hanuman: I doubt they have a policy on it for housing |
| 22:23.53 | hans | If they have ended up blocking things I might consider picking up the wireless crusade for on-campus housing. trouble is, there's no residences near us apart from other wyview tenants |
| 22:45.08 | neybar | .xsession with mandrake isn't used. |
| 22:45.24 | neybar | unless you "startx" from the cli |
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