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| 00:10.10 | elg | Hanuman-Jesse: trying to not forget who you are? |
| 00:17.19 | brailsmt_ | ;) |
| 00:17.49 | Jayce^ | anybody here running dhcp 3.0.1rc11? |
| 00:18.52 | brailsmt_ | not i |
| 00:19.47 | Jayce^ | getting a funky error when it parses the config file... |
| 00:20.21 | Jayce^ | yup, seems to be an error with the version |
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| 03:57.09 | Mecworks | Bradipo: When did you get your camera? How many megapixles? |
| 04:33.05 | brailsmt_ | very refreshing |
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| 14:09.05 | Hanuman-Jesse | good morning everyone |
| 14:15.35 | sjansen | Good morning. |
| 14:34.14 | elg | ~lart BYU Bookstore |
| 14:34.29 | elg | ibot, I think they probably already have that installed. try again |
| 14:34.30 | | elg: no idea |
| 14:34.30 | elg | ~lart BYU Bookstore |
| 14:34.39 | elg | ahh, that's better |
| 14:35.44 | elg | i can't believe their nerve. They have the audacity to put up a poster saying how great they are and so much better than ordering online, with figures from the Economics' department study that shows just the opposite, by selecting which textbooks to show and which online venue to purchase from (walmart.com) |
| 14:36.27 | elg | and then to say "we have the interests of the students at heart, not stock brokers" |
| 14:37.14 | Hanuman | the monopoly on campus... |
| 14:37.46 | elg | and the 'beat the bookstore' store that does so well in competing with uvsc and u of u can't help us because as a private school BYU is not required to publish the book lists. |
| 14:38.42 | elg | i'd rather buy from amazon.com |
| 14:38.50 | Hanuman | so do you think it's a student or faculty that's organizing all this? |
| 14:38.53 | elg | even with their evil one-click fiasco |
| 14:39.25 | Hanuman | I found a good book price comparison site the other day (trying to remember the url) |
| 14:39.34 | elg | all what? they've always been this way. I think the correct term is staff, not facutly in this case. |
| 14:40.11 | Hanuman | that's what I meant |
| 14:40.35 | elg | staff != students |
| 14:41.03 | elg | they couldn't hire marketing students with enough gall/skill for what they pay, it has to be the staff. ;-) |
| 14:45.09 | Hanuman | ahh...found it http://www.campusi.com |
| 14:47.21 | Hanuman | I'm going to start using them to buy textbooks from now on - they always beat my school's prices, and my school hires out to a 3rd party (online bookstore) |
| 14:59.21 | Hanuman | ~lart ISA Server |
| 14:59.30 | Hanuman | Thank you - that's what it needs |
| 14:59.50 | Hanuman | I nice lesson from SQUID would help, too |
| 15:01.41 | Hanuman | s/I/A/ |
| 15:06.51 | elg | SQUAD? |
| 15:07.03 | elg | your regex's are getting sloppy, Hanuman :) |
| 15:07.22 | levi | Ahh, school... I don't really miss it. |
| 15:07.40 | levi | Speaking of books, I bought 'The Salmon of Doubt' last night while browsing a bookstore. |
| 15:07.43 | sjansen | ~lart levi |
| 15:08.10 | sjansen | Oh, I wonder if one of those VAXen was mine. |
| 15:08.39 | levi | Probably, and now it's been damaged by contact with my thick skull. That's what you get! |
| 15:08.43 | sjansen | levi: Salmon is an interesting book. Really a scrapbook. |
| 15:08.51 | elg | hey that site's pretty good |
| 15:10.32 | levi | sjansen: I laughed out loud in the bookstore when I read a few passages out of the middle, so I figured it'd be a good buy. |
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| 15:25.27 | Hanuman | elg: missed that one |
| 15:25.53 | Hanuman | it should be s/^I/A/ |
| 16:47.38 | sjansen | Anyone experienced with Tomcat? |
| 16:49.47 | elg | i had a tomcat once |
| 17:26.23 | Hanuman | my son's name is Tom - he makes cat sounds sometimes. |
| 18:07.15 | elg | 2/win 3 |
| 18:08.04 | elg | umm, yeh |
| 18:25.23 | elg | so I watched league of EG the other night, and can't figure out who the Sawyer kid is supposed to be. Tom Sawyer? |
| 18:26.46 | Jayce^ | I think that's how the story is supposed to go. (haven't seen it yet) |
| 18:28.18 | elg | i don't get what's so extraordinary about tom sawyer. I admit never read the book, but since when is he an uber-gunslinger? |
| 18:28.47 | elg | other than being confused about that I quite liked the show |
| 18:29.54 | Jayce^ | I heard a lot of fans say it was hard to follow without having read the comics/whatever... a little disjointed |
| 18:37.15 | elg | they didn't go into long discourses about the history of each character, no, but I think they did a good job of introducing people well enough for the story. If anything it makes you want to go read the books (e.g. I'm familiar with Dorian Grey but never read the book) |
| 19:09.37 | neybar | does anyone remember the name of the gui package for managing gpg? |
| 19:20.43 | tensai | neybar: gpa, gpgp, seahorse? |
| 19:24.18 | neybar | gpa was it, I found it thanks |
| 19:38.38 | Jayce^ | there is a kgpg too |
| 19:39.21 | Jayce^ | loads a docklet |
| 19:39.57 | neybar | cool |
| 20:26.55 | Hanuman | So, anyone going to the BYU game tonight? |
| 20:30.00 | Jayce^ | no.. |
| 20:30.00 | levi | There's a game tonight? |
| 20:30.12 | levi | I'm going to the Radiohead concert tonight. |
| 20:30.24 | levi | Much more entertaining. |
| 20:30.35 | Jayce^ | levi, BYU vs Georgia Tech, first game of the year |
| 20:30.43 | Jayce^ | I've got friends going to each.. |
| 20:30.50 | Jayce^ | I'm sitting at home :/ |
| 20:31.10 | levi | Your friends going to Radiohead are undoubtedly cooler than the friends going to the game. ;) |
| 20:31.32 | Jayce^ | I'd enjoy either... |
| 20:31.44 | levi | Well, how come you're not going? |
| 20:33.04 | Jayce^ | money, that's the biggest one.. and while I enjoy some radiohead, I'm not a big big fan :) |
| 20:33.16 | Jayce^ | it'd be fun, but there are others I'd prefer.. |
| 20:33.36 | Hanuman | I found it was harder to go to the games with kids, too. |
| 20:33.37 | levi | I'm going to see REM on Monday, in Seattle. |
| 20:33.51 | Hanuman | I'll be watching it with some friends tonight |
| 20:34.10 | Hanuman | nothing like ordering pizza, eating chips and nachos, and watching a byu game |
| 20:34.33 | Jayce^ | wow, long trip for a concert.. what location? |
| 20:34.45 | Jayce^ | they'd better win tonight. |
| 20:34.57 | levi | It's part of Bumbershoot, the Seattle Arts Festival. It's at the Seattle Center somewhere. |
| 20:35.19 | levi | My family is in the area, and an old friend will be in town too. |
| 20:35.31 | Hanuman | levi: I'm jealous |
| 20:35.31 | Jayce^ | levi, it's the whole science center then, and a few surronding areas... bubmershoot is a big thing.. |
| 20:35.50 | levi | Yeah. |
| 20:35.58 | Hanuman | My brother just saw Dave Mathews in NYC - I couldn't get work off to see it. |
| 20:35.59 | Jayce^ | I bet it will be over by the needle though, they have that new 'experience music' museum, which has a stage |
| 20:36.13 | levi | Yeah, I've been in the EMP, it's cool. |
| 20:36.22 | Jayce^ | I wanted to hit TMBG and dave gahan last month, but couldnt' get to either.. |
| 20:36.34 | levi | I actually have a membership to it, so I'll probably go while I'm there. |
| 20:36.48 | levi | TMBG was cool, but a bit of a short show. |
| 20:36.58 | levi | Red Butte Gardens is kind of lame for a venue. |
| 20:37.18 | Hanuman | They play all the time at Borders up in Northern VA and DC, since that's where they're from. |
| 20:37.40 | Hanuman | My dad's seen them a couple times - I need to go see them sometime. |
| 20:38.27 | levi | The TMBG show had no opening band, and they only played for a couple of hours. |
| 20:38.38 | Jayce^ | http://www.flooble.com/fun/compu.php |
| 20:39.30 | levi | Oh geez, those are bad. :) |
| 20:42.29 | Hanuman | " From a programmer's standpoint, a user is a periferal device that provides an input stream for the READ command" |
| 20:42.40 | Hanuman | That's a great way of putting it... |
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| 20:54.37 | Hanuman | Hey - I just got a new scanner. Which will give me better resolution and picture - scanning from the negatives or directly from the pictures themselves? |
| 20:54.45 | Hanuman | Anyone know? |
| 21:03.34 | Hanuman | well, gtg - cya guys later |
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| 21:30.17 | brailsmt_work | can I make a .so from a .la? |
| 21:35.41 | levi | Drink some .ti and fry up some .do |
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| 21:40.55 | brailsmt_work | .thx |
| 21:41.00 | brailsmt_work | .:) |
| 21:42.18 | brailsmt_work | ethereal expects .so files... |
| 21:42.26 | brailsmt_work | the Makefile's create .la |
| 21:42.32 | brailsmt_work | nice... |
| 21:51.51 | tensai | brailsmt_work: .la files just describe a library. there's no code in them. do you have a .a file too? |
| 21:52.05 | tensai | you can do gcc -shared -o libfoo.so libfoo.a |
| 21:52.36 | brailsmt_work | yes i do |
| 21:52.59 | brailsmt_work | wait, no i don't.. |
| 21:54.23 | brailsmt_work | .la, .o, .lails |
| 21:54.50 | brailsmt_work | oops.. |
| 21:54.55 | brailsmt_work | .la, .o, .lai and .lo |
| 21:54.57 | brailsmt_work | no .a |
| 21:55.28 | tensai | ok. that's all I know on the subject. have you read the libtool docs? |
| 21:55.43 | brailsmt_work | not well enough |
| 22:00.13 | tensai | brailsmt_work: this seems to cover it: http://www.gnu.no/software/libtool/manual.html#SEC8 |
| 22:00.32 | tensai | 3.1 - 3.3 |
| 22:00.50 | brailsmt_work | i just started loading the page... |
| 22:08.06 | brailsmt_work | not what I needed though... |
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| 22:41.37 | Bradipo | The problem with all this DoS stuff is that it doesn't look good on the Linux community at all. |
| 22:42.23 | Bradipo | And as the article states, it is hurting innocent bystanders. |
| 22:42.44 | Bradipo | It isn't our fault that someone is DoS'ing us either. |
| 22:43.14 | Bradipo | That's like saying it's the fault of the home owner who gets burgled by an irked neighbor. |
| 22:43.56 | Bradipo | The only people at fault and responsible are the perpetrators of the crime. |
| 22:54.33 | Jayce^ | w00t! mod_perl job on the plug list! |
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| 23:05.25 | synic_ | any of the usual perl gurus in here? |
| 23:05.35 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 23:05.57 | synic_ | alright... so, I've started a job where they use Perl. I need to brush up on some things |
| 23:06.05 | Jayce^ | sweet, you're lucky.. |
| 23:06.07 | Jayce^ | where at? |
| 23:06.12 | synic_ | remember how we were talking about references and function parameters? |
| 23:06.24 | synic_ | it's a company called "treat 'em right" |
| 23:07.00 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 23:07.07 | synic_ | I've sucessfully passed an array to a sub via &test( \@something ); |
| 23:07.20 | Jayce^ | k |
| 23:07.30 | synic_ | and then accessed it using my $var = $_[0] |
| 23:07.36 | synic_ | and then I could print @$var[0] |
| 23:07.58 | synic_ | I can't seem to get the same results with a hash |
| 23:08.13 | synic_ | passing it via &test( \%hash ) |
| 23:08.21 | synic_ | my $href = $_[0]; |
| 23:08.31 | synic_ | print %$href{'something'} |
| 23:08.53 | synic_ | how do you go about it the correct way? |
| 23:10.08 | Jayce^ | print $href->{'something'}; or print $$href{'something'}; |
| 23:10.42 | Jayce^ | accessing elements of the array should be done the same way, $var->[0], or $$var[0]; |
| 23:10.45 | synic_ | ah. So, could I have done the same with the array? |
| 23:10.47 | synic_ | oh. :) |
| 23:11.09 | Jayce^ | when you pulled it as @$ you were casting it as another array basically.. it worked in that case because of the print |
| 23:12.25 | synic_ | hrmm. I'm still not getting the results I expect |
| 23:13.11 | Jayce^ | my %hash = ( foo => 'bar' ); |
| 23:13.25 | Jayce^ | &subname( \%hash ); |
| 23:13.33 | Jayce^ | sub subname { |
| 23:13.41 | synic_ | yeah, I'm declaring the hash incorrectly. |
| 23:13.54 | Jayce^ | my $href = shift; # or $href = $_[0] |
| 23:14.14 | synic_ | there, now it works. Thanks :) |
| 23:14.18 | Jayce^ | print $href->{'foo'}; # bar |
| 23:14.21 | Jayce^ | np |
| 23:15.31 | Jayce^ | check out perldoc.com, the search might help... that one can be addressed in a few places , like perldoc perlref or perlreftut |
| 23:16.30 | synic_ | ok |