| 00:13.13 | brailsmt | anyone here have vocp running? I can't figure out how to test my setup without being able to call in to the system... |
| 00:13.40 | Jayce^ | no, finishing some wiring before I get to set it up.. |
| 00:13.45 | Jayce^ | want me to call your #? |
| 00:15.17 | brailsmt | Jayce^: i need to call it, to make sure things are the way i want them to be... :) |
| 02:19.49 | brailsmt | how can i tell what process has a lock on a system resource? for example on /dev/dsp? |
| 02:22.09 | brailsmt | nm |
| 03:20.21 | hans | ooh, tim says the new cvs bzflag code includes a curses bzflag client |
| 03:20.25 | hans | bzflag for the masses! |
| 03:44.19 | Bradipo | I feel sorry for all the people that apologize to the mailing list. |
| 03:44.47 | Bradipo | It's not necessarily their fault that the mailing list requests that the replies go back to the mailing list. |
| 03:44.55 | Bradipo | PLUG of course. :-) |
| 03:47.13 | Jayce^ | lol. we knew you'd talk about that.. |
| 03:47.35 | Bradipo | Don't know why people bother apologizing. |
| 03:47.50 | Bradipo | Oh well. |
| 03:48.12 | Bradipo | That job with Tcl and RDBMS sounded interesting. |
| 03:48.16 | Bradipo | Until M$ was mentioned. |
| 03:48.21 | Jayce^ | hehe. |
| 03:48.57 | Bradipo | I wrote my greylist program in Tcl |
| 03:49.29 | Bradipo | And it connects to a postgres DB. |
| 03:50.50 | Bradipo | By the way, greylisting seems to be very effective. |
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| 03:51.38 | Bradipo | Since I started it up, we have 250k unique records. |
| 03:52.00 | Bradipo | Of those, 225k have never tried again. |
| 03:52.22 | Bradipo | And 25k have successfully delivered their email by retrying. |
| 03:54.05 | Jayce^ | *we* as in sco, your own system, or friends writing the software? |
| 04:03.04 | Bradipo | Hehe, I guess I should say I. |
| 04:03.12 | Bradipo | Since I am really the only one writing any code. :-) |
| 04:04.04 | Bradipo | And maybe if they offer to pay me more to be a developer it could be *our* code. LOL |
| 04:04.12 | Bradipo | But, those are pretty impressive numbers. |
| 04:04.27 | Bradipo | Once spammers catch on, however, the effectiveness will go down. |
| 04:10.53 | Bradipo | Although, theoretically, if they start using *real* mail servers, they could potentially have some big resource issues handling all the bounces. |
| 04:11.14 | Bradipo | Not only that, but spam traps will be able to blacklist those hosts that actually do retry. |
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| 13:50.08 | Hanuman | everyone take osirusoft off your dnsbl list |
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| 14:23.00 | slag6900 | oh wow, i didnt know that tao's irc server was a freenode server :-) |
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| 15:10.23 | Hanuman | stupid Mozilla (well, actually it's pretty smart - just picky) |
| 15:10.46 | Hanuman | I can't get rid of these spaces between some of the table cells in Mozilla - works fine in IE |
| 15:11.13 | Hanuman | I need to move away from tables completely sometime. Too many problems occur from using tables. |
| 15:24.21 | Bradipo | Morning. |
| 15:38.12 | Hanuman | Morning Bradipo |
| 15:51.42 | sjansen | Argh. Stupid, cheap, broken..... |
| 15:52.10 | sjansen | You'd think 8G of RAM would be enough. But no, everything and its grandmother has to be run on the same box. |
| 15:52.21 | sjansen | Because its too painful and slow trying to get more hardware. |
| 15:56.33 | Hanuman | anyone know the css equivalent for the target attribute (to open up in a new window) |
| 15:56.37 | Hanuman | ? |
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| 15:57.07 | Hanuman | target is no longer XHTML strict compatible |
| 16:02.27 | sjansen | I don't think there is one. |
| 16:06.21 | sjansen | Hanuman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2001Nov/0004.html |
| 16:07.19 | Hanuman | sjansen: tnx - I just found some docs, too |
| 16:08.33 | Hanuman | That's stupid - I liked the target tag - quick and easy |
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| 17:14.16 | Hanuman | It's quiet in here lately |
| 17:15.07 | Jayce^ | yup.. |
| 17:15.13 | Jayce^ | we're all sco'd out :) |
| 17:18.53 | Hanuman | We need to get ibot to make comments every once-in-awhile so this place isn't too quiet |
| 17:37.09 | neybar | snyone here good with osx? |
| 17:42.02 | levi | Depends on what you mean by 'good with' |
| 17:43.21 | Jayce^ | he needs to do remote admin work, with the gui |
| 17:50.54 | Hanuman | anyone know of any Linux, Apache, DB (any DB), or Perl jobs up there that would be willing to relocate or let me work from home? (that don't pay $12/hour) |
| 17:51.49 | Jayce^ | not right now.. |
| 17:52.00 | Jayce^ | quite the dearth locally |
| 17:52.07 | Hanuman | I know it's a stupid question to ask, but sometimes people know someone who has something. |
| 17:52.10 | Hanuman | That's what I hear |
| 17:52.23 | Jayce^ | there have been a few recently on jobs.perl.org.. but most you would have to relocate yourself |
| 17:52.45 | Hanuman | yeah - not sure if I'm ready to do that yet where I've already got a job. |
| 17:53.15 | Hanuman | I'll just keep hangin' out here until the economy gets better (if it ever does) |
| 17:53.48 | emcnabb__ | I just posted something to the plug |
| 17:53.53 | emcnabb__ | about a job |
| 17:53.53 | Jayce^ | grrr... I must be doing something wrong.. |
| 17:53.56 | Hanuman | I miss sysadmin and programming as my primary responsibility. |
| 17:54.06 | Jayce^ | I thought if I do a select foo as bar, |
| 17:54.07 | Hanuman | emcnabb__: tnx - I'll be sure to check it out. |
| 17:54.15 | Hanuman | I also miss Utah |
| 17:54.18 | Jayce^ | then I can say where bar > baz |
| 17:54.25 | Jayce^ | it's telling me I can't |
| 17:54.45 | Hanuman | Jayce^: what db? |
| 17:54.51 | Jayce^ | mysql |
| 17:55.04 | Jayce^ | Hanuman, jobs.perl.org just got a virginia perl job listing.. |
| 17:55.20 | Hanuman | I need to resubscribe, check the archives, etc. |
| 17:55.32 | Hanuman | I'm on the jobs-discuss list because I find it amusing. |
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| 18:03.31 | Hanuman | emcnabb__: that Webmaster position is right up my alley - my wife has talked about wanting to live in Illinois |
| 18:03.53 | emcnabb__ | Hanuman, really? |
| 18:05.30 | Hanuman | She has an Aunt that she really loves that lives over there. Cost of Living is fairly low as well. |
| 18:06.03 | emcnabb__ | yeah, it is; what part of Illinois is she in? |
| 18:06.32 | Hanuman | I'm trying to remember...it's a really small town, though |
| 18:07.14 | Hanuman | It's about 2-3 hours north of St. Louis, MO |
| 18:11.13 | Hanuman | I can't remember the exact name, but it's just outside of Farmington |
| 18:14.01 | emcnabb__ | cool, that's about 2 hrs from my place |
| 18:14.13 | emcnabb__ | maybe 3 |
| 18:15.57 | Hanuman | do you have any contact info other than that jobs e-mail address that you gave to PLUG? |
| 18:16.45 | emcnabb__ | I can put in a good word for you |
| 18:17.18 | Jayce^ | emcnabb__, so what language/development do they need for their website/admin job.. Perl? |
| 18:17.21 | Hanuman | cool - I'd appreciate that. I'll try to send a resume today. If not, it will have to be tomorrow. |
| 18:18.21 | emcnabb__ | I'm not sure what language; they might be redoing the site so you can use what you want |
| 18:18.42 | emcnabb__ | Hanuman, what is your full name? |
| 18:18.51 | emcnabb__ | (so I can tell them) |
| 18:18.57 | Hanuman | Jesse Stay |
| 18:19.10 | emcnabb__ | ok (IRC handles just don't cut it) |
| 18:19.12 | emcnabb__ | :-) |
| 18:19.30 | Bradipo | Don't cut what? |
| 18:19.31 | Hanuman | I definitely understand that. |
| 18:19.40 | Hanuman | It's so fun to use a nick, though |
| 18:19.53 | Hanuman-Jesse | how's that? |
| 18:20.05 | Bradipo | lol |
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| 18:56.07 | Jayce^ | so elg, you going to post your notes ? :) |
| 18:57.04 | elg | heh. saw that. maybe I can get to it today |
| 18:57.12 | elg | just as soon as I fix them. ;-) |
| 18:57.35 | Jayce^ | good idea :) |
| 18:58.41 | elg | and assuming I haven't misplaced them... |
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| 21:51.34 | sjansen | Anybody ever heard of transedge.com? |
| 21:55.49 | emcnabb__ | sjansen, nope |
| 22:13.13 | Jayce^ | emcnabb__, how was the tour? |
| 22:29.21 | emcnabb__ | Jayce^, it's tomorrow |
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