| 00:14.16 | hans | the mouse thin? |
| 00:14.23 | hans | 'twas the memory |
| 00:18.59 | harleypig | yean |
| 00:19.02 | harleypig | yeah, even |
| 00:19.27 | hans | i used to use it when I first started with linux (and my box was too slow to be running x all the time) |
| 00:19.53 | harleypig | I can't get X running so I'm stuck in the console ... but it's not really that bad. |
| 00:25.31 | hans | no, especially with screen |
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| 00:38.51 | harleypig | I forgot about screen |
| 01:12.12 | harleypig | anyway ... I'm getting init failed with gpm -m /dev/mouse -t imps2 and nothing working with any other option. Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 01:39.21 | Jayce^ | hans, take out all misc boards, and make sure all you leave are fully seated.. |
| 01:39.43 | Jayce^ | narrow it down that way.. if you can, change out the ram stick.. |
| 01:47.09 | hans | Jayce^: figured it out - it was the ram (luckily I have some extra) |
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| 04:27.22 | Bonez39 | greetings |
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| 05:29.38 | Jayce^ | hans: not a bad deal overall :) |
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| 14:35.40 | harleypig | Anyone got their ears on yet? |
| 14:35.48 | hans | hiho |
| 14:36.05 | harleypig | I owe, I owe, It's off to work I go! |
| 14:36.41 | harleypig | Anyway. I'm trying to burn this knopper iso and I'm having problems. |
| 14:37.12 | harleypig | I thought an iso didn't need to have anything done to it to burn, but cdrecord is jumping this 694Mb file to 796Mb |
| 14:37.18 | harleypig | which doesn't fit on my cd. |
| 14:37.26 | harleypig | Am I mistaken? |
| 14:37.27 | hans | odd |
| 14:37.50 | harleypig | It's a ide burner, but I don't see why that would make a difference. |
| 14:38.02 | hans | should just have to do |
| 14:38.08 | hans | cdrecord KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-28-EN.iso |
| 14:38.36 | hans | (perhaps specifying the device if necessary and other options you like, like -eject) |
| 14:38.45 | harleypig | Hmmm ... well, the docs say cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,3,0 filename |
| 14:39.06 | harleypig | Exactly (and my device is 0,0,0) |
| 14:39.07 | hans | depending on your burner you can leave off the speed thing. -v for verbose |
| 14:39.35 | harleypig | Yeah, I saw that in the docs ... hmm ... I'll try just cdrecord filename. |
| 14:39.56 | hans | ls -l <knoppix image> |
| 14:40.04 | hans | did you do an md5 sum? |
| 14:40.37 | harleypig | Yeah, md5 sums match. |
| 14:41.11 | harleypig | I had to include dev=0,0,0 but otherwise got the same thing (except no mention of the size being attempted to burn). |
| 14:45.48 | hans | hmm |
| 14:45.49 | hans | Track 01: data 698 MB |
| 14:45.49 | hans | Total size: 801 MB (79:25.04) = 357378 sectors |
| 14:45.49 | hans | Lout start: 801 MB (79:27/03) = 357378 sectors |
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| 14:52.48 | harleypig | So, is total size the actual write size? What size is your cd rated at? |
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| 14:53.53 | harleypig | Ok ... #knoppix just let me know ... I need a 80 min cd. D'oh |
| 15:05.16 | hans | ok, I'd like to set up email differently this time on this server. |
| 15:06.03 | hans | I want some normal users and some email addresses that are virtual. e.g. they have no user account but can imap/pop their email which is stored I-don't-care-how. |
| 15:06.31 | hans | i want to set up smtp auth or maybe smtp-after-pop/imap |
| 15:07.27 | hans | and I'd really like the users to be able to change their forwarding address/delivery options from a web interface |
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| 15:07.35 | hans | quotas would be nice too |
| 15:07.53 | hans | i'm open to MTA suggestions (I use exim but am not fanatic about it) |
| 15:08.14 | hans | as well as IMAP/POP server suggestions |
| 15:08.17 | harleypig | Is neybar the one doing thelances.net? |
| 15:10.09 | harleypig | What'd I miss ... nirc dies and I miss only two minutes of conversation ... and something happens! :> |
| 15:11.12 | hans | just me asking questions. not exactly a conversation. ;-) |
| 15:11.19 | hans | at least not until people answer :) |
| 15:11.42 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.55 | harleypig | :> |
| 15:15.35 | harleypig | which server is this? ldsoss? |
| 15:16.36 | hans | fugal.net |
| 15:17.04 | hans | thanks to jayce I am doubling its speed and memory :) |
| 15:17.48 | harleypig | :D |
| 15:27.04 | Jayce^ | harleypig, yes, that's neybar.. |
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| 15:27.34 | Jayce^ | interesting.. |
| 15:27.42 | Jayce^ | hans, I thought you were going to use that as a desktop :) |
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| 15:29.07 | hans | grr. now it's beeping again for no reason, with my own ram |
| 15:29.43 | harleypig | I can't telnet in to thelances.net from home ... I get connection refused. |
| 15:32.14 | Jayce^ | he probably has it turned off, wait until he wakes up.. |
| 15:33.01 | Hanuman | Greetings everyone |
| 15:33.24 | Hanuman | did I miss anything? |
| 15:33.33 | Jayce^ | of course.. |
| 15:35.06 | Jayce^ | wuss |
| 15:35.33 | Hanuman | hey now... |
| 15:36.15 | Hanuman | All I can say is I'm glad I don't have to go through this again. |
| 15:42.12 | Hanuman | How was the swap meet? |
| 15:42.44 | Jayce^ | went really well |
| 15:43.10 | sjansen | So, how does everyone feel about changing the topic to something more relevant? Humourous suggestions? |
| 15:43.22 | Jayce^ | yeah, we can see if it sticks... |
| 15:43.32 | *** topic/#utah by Jayce^ -> No, we don't really like SCO... |
| 15:43.41 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 15:52.28 | sjansen | I really don't like vendors that provide binary only solution for Linux x86 only. |
| 15:52.34 | sjansen | *cough* Cisco *cough* |
| 15:52.51 | sjansen | But you've at least got to respect an install script that includes a comment about Slackware. |
| 15:54.02 | sjansen | (And no, it wasn't them I was complaining about yesterday.) |
| 15:57.04 | Jayce^ | heheh |
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| 16:01.58 | hans | oddness. the ram wasn't bad after all, there was a sliver of something in one of the ram slots that was shorting it out, causing a memory error |
| 16:02.16 | levi | Weird. |
| 16:02.18 | Jayce^ | heh. .that's always nice.. now you have another 64mb chip :) |
| 16:02.29 | hans | yeah, my desktop is now running with 32megs more than it was. :) |
| 16:12.29 | Hanuman | well, gotta go to lunch and get some rest. bbl |
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| 19:10.26 | Jayce^ | http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13100139 |
| 19:10.42 | Jayce^ | looks like canopy just got another breach of contract lawsuit settled.. |
| 19:15.42 | sjansen | I don't know which side I would have prefered to win. Was there a third "everyone gets hosed" I could have voted for? |
| 19:19.02 | Jayce^ | not a big CA fan? |
| 19:22.15 | neybar | so does center7/canopy/etc actually do anything besides reel in lawsuits? |
| 19:25.48 | Jayce^ | doesn't seem to be doing much else.. |
| 19:32.35 | sjansen | I've suffered at the hand of their software too much to like them. |
| 19:32.54 | sjansen | But at least they've got a rep that brings by donuts and occasionally takes us to lunch. |
| 19:32.55 | Jayce^ | never used anything from them myself.. |
| 19:33.05 | sjansen | Too bad I can't be bribed. ;-) |
| 19:34.36 | hans | Jayce^: I have. I agree with stuart (although they've never taken me to lunch...) |
| 19:35.19 | neybar | brightstore is a terrible backup solution IMHO |
| 19:35.46 | neybar | or what ever CA is calling their backup software now |
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| 23:07.59 | Jayce^ | so hans, your new box running debian yet? |
| 23:08.27 | hans | yeah, but I'm having trouble |
| 23:08.31 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.01 | hans | usually happens within a few minutes, yet when I run memtest86 for over 3 passes it finds nothing |
| 23:09.12 | hans | oops even if the hdd is unplugged (boot flea from cd) |
| 23:10.54 | sjansen | Is anyone near you wearing a large magnet? |
| 23:12.43 | hans | heh. no |
| 23:13.51 | Jayce^ | interesting... |
| 23:14.38 | hans | i'm suspecting one of the ram sticks and/or slots (thanks to that sliver), but I'd feel better about it if memtest would show something : |
| 23:16.05 | Jayce^ | yeah. |
| 23:16.19 | Jayce^ | try running on one slot... |
| 23:17.04 | hans | "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00030118" |
| 23:17.23 | hans | usually low stuff like kswapd, cron, syslogd |
| 23:17.46 | hans | almost always happens while accessing the hard drive, though. |
| 23:17.50 | Jayce^ | hrmm.. maybe video.. I think the video card is using shared memory.. maybe your kernel isnt' handling that right? |
| 23:18.03 | hans | hmm. possible. |
| 23:18.11 | hans | gonna try pulling a stick |
| 23:18.30 | Jayce^ | I've never used the shared memory in linux.. maybe it is having an issue with that. |
| 23:19.47 | hans | also suspect (if for no good reason) in my mind is IDE DMA |
| 23:20.44 | Jayce^ | true.. |
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| 23:31.05 | hans | pulling that stick seems to make a difference. Now the dull task of figuring out whether it's the stick or the slot |
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