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13:05.13 | elg | gag. it's way too hot here |
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15:02.20 | elg | anyone heard of work-of-mouth.org before? |
15:02.54 | sjansen | Do you mean word-of-mouth.org? |
15:02.59 | elg | i do |
15:03.03 | levi | elg: Where are you that's too hot? |
15:03.09 | elg | levi: Utah. :) |
15:03.22 | levi | elg: You'd think you'd be used to it by now. :) |
15:03.28 | elg | and this room's thermometer is broken. |
15:03.40 | elg | levi: I just got back from the much nicer climate in Santa Fe |
15:03.40 | levi | Oh, well, there's your problem. :) |
15:04.13 | elg | i just got this email entitled REPORT SUBMITTED REGARDING: hans@fugal.net |
15:04.23 | elg | http://Word-of-Mouth.Org/FAQ.asp |
15:04.25 | sjansen | elg: Never heard of it, but looks interesting. |
15:04.43 | elg | so I am wondering if this is legit or some elaborate spam thing |
15:05.04 | elg | I'd like to click on the link to see the 'reports' but don't want to confirm my email address in the process for some spammer |
15:05.40 | sjansen | Looks like they're learning. Redirects to http://word-of-mouth.org/faqs.php?nav=faqs |
15:06.09 | sjansen | Do you have a throw away account you can use instead? |
15:06.47 | elg | sjansen: sure, but that won't show me the reports supposedly submitted about hans@fugal.net |
15:07.12 | elg | Admin Country:PH |
15:07.15 | elg | where's that? |
15:10.21 | sjansen | Looks like the Philippines. |
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15:12.14 | sjansen | I personally wouldn't. It just isn't important enough and they've given no reason to really trust them. |
15:12.49 | elg | yeah, me too. |
15:12.52 | sjansen | But if you're really curious, I'd try signing up with a spam address (has to be legit, it looks like, but can be temporary) then searching. Maybe you'll find it. |
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15:55.51 | emcnabb | what's the name of the virus that sends out a message from the administrator and has a .zip file attached? |
15:56.38 | elg | "the virus that sends out a message from the |
15:56.39 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
15:57.19 | elg | by not using its name, whatever it be, we deny it the joy of having identity |
16:01.41 | sjansen | That's like, so, last month. Haven't you heard? Blasters the latest news. |
16:07.34 | emcnabb | this is a different one; it's called win32.mimail.a.mm.html |
16:07.48 | emcnabb | oh well |
16:09.54 | elg | the last time I worried about a virus was the i love you virus. and that was only because i wanted to help out the guys that supported the windows boxes, and thought it would be instructive to decode the mess that is vb |
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16:24.37 | Jayce^ | anybody know of any computer/technology convention/expo's coming to town still this year? |
16:38.48 | elg | anyone know of a website that outlines which processors go into which type of motherboards? (e.g. slot foo, socket bar, etc.) |
16:39.22 | Jayce^ | not offhand, but if you find it, I want to know.. |
16:39.58 | Jayce^ | that slot board you have, I know phsyically fits up to around 1ghz, but I dont' know what it's bios will let it handle.. |
16:40.41 | Jayce^ | anybody here looking for DDR ram? I forgot to bring 2 256 chips to the swap meet.. |
16:52.47 | elg | Jayce^: do you know off-hand, is it slot-1? |
16:55.55 | Jayce^ | dunno. |
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17:12.53 | Jayce^ | oink |
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17:25.05 | emcnabb | http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08122003/business/83193.asp |
17:25.47 | emcnabb | http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08122003/business/83192.asp |
17:25.55 | emcnabb | two great articles... |
17:31.11 | Jayce^ | very good |
17:42.16 | elg | what is an AMR slot? |
17:50.24 | tensai | elg: Audio Modem Riser. a little used solution to creating cheaper winmodems and winsoundcards |
18:01.42 | brailsmt_work | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2003-08/msg00191.html |
18:24.14 | Jayce^ | why do you develop something and say it conforms to a well published standard, then tweak it just enough that it won't work with things that meet the existing standards? |
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18:40.09 | brailsmt_work | Jayce^: to try to force the standard to be what you want it to be... that is an advantage of being an illegal monopoly |
18:46.09 | sjansen | Actually, I've read a rather unbiased review that said MS might be doing things right. |
18:46.51 | brailsmt_work | sjansen: then are breaking precedent |
18:46.52 | sjansen | SOAP and web services are trying to be two things at once. Is it RPC, or is it document exchange? That fundamental paradigm is at the heart of the problem. |
18:47.22 | sjansen | I'll see if I can dig it up. |
18:55.41 | sjansen | Sorry, not finding it. |
18:56.09 | Jayce^ | riiight.. |
18:56.26 | Jayce^ | actually I've seen arguments from sources about certain aspects of their changes... |
18:56.40 | Jayce^ | but they are making some changes on hypothetical ideas, and calling them standard... |
18:57.41 | sjansen | Well, I haven't worked with anything produced by MS. Mono is the closest I come, so I can't comment on the nitty gritty. Wouldn't surprise me, though, with they history of Kerberos, MS-XSLT, etc. |
18:59.12 | Jayce^ | I've done a little soap stuff before, it's pretty cool for some things, but their server simply chokes with non .Net requests.. won't parse the xml correctly.. |
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19:40.02 | elg_ | what's with the topic? |
19:40.57 | Jayce^ | I think it's part of freenode's bugs with their new code.. |
19:41.12 | Jayce^ | wow, bush just nominated Gov Leavitt to be the head of the EPA. |
19:42.12 | emcnabb | yeah, that's going to get a lot of people fired up |
20:07.34 | sjansen | Yes, of course our product works with vendor X on Linux. |
20:08.15 | sjansen | Oh, you use the latest version of vendor X's product? I've only used the previous version.... before they made major changes. |
20:08.41 | sjansen | And by the way, I've only tested vendor X's product on IIS. |
20:08.58 | sjansen | But I bet the problem is your cookie domain. |
20:09.15 | sjansen | (Apache won't even start and you think the problem is the cookie domain?!) |
20:10.31 | sjansen | And people wonder why I prefer open source. I hate black boxes and sales reps that don't confirm before promising. |
20:10.48 | Jayce^ | hehe.. |
20:10.59 | sjansen | But at least this time we 've got a good contract that puts all the burden on them. |
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23:43.15 | hans | Jayce^: trying to start up this box now - it just beeps. long single beeps. |
23:43.36 | hans | anyone know what that means? i've tried shorting the bios clear jumper |
23:44.36 | hans | nothing on the monitor |
23:45.03 | synic | isn't that a video card post? |
23:45.48 | synic | or maybe 3 longs beeps is memory... |
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23:54.32 | harleypig | Anyone familiar with gpm? |