| 01:55.28 | *** join/#utah brailsmt_work (michael@byu081098wks.byu.edu) |
| 03:59.35 | *** join/#utah sjansen (~sjansen@128.187.247.97) |
| 04:26.40 | *** join/#utah ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 04:26.40 | *** mode/#utah [+o ChanServ] by niven.freenode.net |
| 04:31.56 | *** join/#utah Jayce^ (~Jayce^@65.218.37.161) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:32.31 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (~emcnabb@12-255-28-7.client.attbi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:32.37 | *** join/#utah ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 04:32.37 | *** mode/#utah [+o ChanServ] by niven.freenode.net |
| 04:32.40 | *** join/#utah Bradipo (~amb@ip-64-32-156-231.dsl.lax.megapath.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:38.39 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 07:18.56 | *** join/#utah synic_ (~synic@slkcdslgw12PoolD192.slkc.uswest.net) |
| 07:46.47 | *** join/#utah brailsmt (~michael@12-254-250-249.client.attbi.com) |
| 12:15.49 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (~emcnabb@12-255-28-7.client.attbi.com) |
| 13:05.06 | *** join/#utah elg (fugalh@byu080930wks.byu.edu) |
| 13:05.13 | elg | gag. it's way too hot here |
| 13:24.39 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (~emcnabb@byu176783wks.rn.byu.edu) |
| 14:58.19 | *** join/#utah sjansen (~sjansen@128.187.136.158) |
| 15:02.20 | elg | anyone heard of work-of-mouth.org before? |
| 15:02.54 | sjansen | Do you mean word-of-mouth.org? |
| 15:02.59 | elg | i do |
| 15:03.03 | levi | elg: Where are you that's too hot? |
| 15:03.09 | elg | levi: Utah. :) |
| 15:03.22 | levi | elg: You'd think you'd be used to it by now. :) |
| 15:03.28 | elg | and this room's thermometer is broken. |
| 15:03.40 | elg | levi: I just got back from the much nicer climate in Santa Fe |
| 15:03.40 | levi | Oh, well, there's your problem. :) |
| 15:04.13 | elg | i just got this email entitled REPORT SUBMITTED REGARDING: hans@fugal.net |
| 15:04.23 | elg | http://Word-of-Mouth.Org/FAQ.asp |
| 15:04.25 | sjansen | elg: Never heard of it, but looks interesting. |
| 15:04.43 | elg | so I am wondering if this is legit or some elaborate spam thing |
| 15:05.04 | elg | I'd like to click on the link to see the 'reports' but don't want to confirm my email address in the process for some spammer |
| 15:05.40 | sjansen | Looks like they're learning. Redirects to http://word-of-mouth.org/faqs.php?nav=faqs |
| 15:06.09 | sjansen | Do you have a throw away account you can use instead? |
| 15:06.47 | elg | sjansen: sure, but that won't show me the reports supposedly submitted about hans@fugal.net |
| 15:07.12 | elg | Admin Country:PH |
| 15:07.15 | elg | where's that? |
| 15:10.21 | sjansen | Looks like the Philippines. |
| 15:11.46 | *** join/#utah tensai (~tensai@dsl.dyn.02-59.budget.net) |
| 15:12.14 | sjansen | I personally wouldn't. It just isn't important enough and they've given no reason to really trust them. |
| 15:12.49 | elg | yeah, me too. |
| 15:12.52 | sjansen | But if you're really curious, I'd try signing up with a spam address (has to be legit, it looks like, but can be temporary) then searching. Maybe you'll find it. |
| 15:46.51 | *** join/#utah elg (fugalh@byu080930wks.byu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:46.51 | *** join/#utah santafetrail (~fugalh@byu074948wks.rn.byu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:46.51 | *** join/#utah levi (~levi@208.177.141.226) |
| 15:46.51 | *** join/#utah Hanuman (~jstayii@pool-141-152-11-122.rich.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:46.51 | *** join/#utah Bonez39 (~Bonez@206.71.67.22) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:47.03 | *** join/#utah Jayce^ (~Jayce^@65.218.37.161) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 15:47.03 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by niven.freenode.net |
| 15:55.51 | emcnabb | what's the name of the virus that sends out a message from the administrator and has a .zip file attached? |
| 15:56.38 | elg | "the virus that sends out a message from the |
| 15:56.39 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.19 | elg | by not using its name, whatever it be, we deny it the joy of having identity |
| 16:01.41 | sjansen | That's like, so, last month. Haven't you heard? Blasters the latest news. |
| 16:07.34 | emcnabb | this is a different one; it's called win32.mimail.a.mm.html |
| 16:07.48 | emcnabb | oh well |
| 16:09.54 | elg | the last time I worried about a virus was the i love you virus. and that was only because i wanted to help out the guys that supported the windows boxes, and thought it would be instructive to decode the mess that is vb |
| 16:14.56 | *** join/#utah skidd (~skidd@12-255-45-104.client.attbi.com) |
| 16:20.58 | *** join/#utah bbeattie (~bbeattie@cpe-66-1-180-69.ut.sprintbbd.net) |
| 16:24.37 | Jayce^ | anybody know of any computer/technology convention/expo's coming to town still this year? |
| 16:38.48 | elg | anyone know of a website that outlines which processors go into which type of motherboards? (e.g. slot foo, socket bar, etc.) |
| 16:39.22 | Jayce^ | not offhand, but if you find it, I want to know.. |
| 16:39.58 | Jayce^ | that slot board you have, I know phsyically fits up to around 1ghz, but I dont' know what it's bios will let it handle.. |
| 16:40.41 | Jayce^ | anybody here looking for DDR ram? I forgot to bring 2 256 chips to the swap meet.. |
| 16:52.47 | elg | Jayce^: do you know off-hand, is it slot-1? |
| 16:55.55 | Jayce^ | dunno. |
| 17:12.17 | *** join/#utah HarleyPig (~ayoung@209.180.91.155) |
| 17:12.53 | Jayce^ | oink |
| 17:23.20 | *** join/#utah brailsmt_work (michael@byu080636wks.byu.edu) |
| 17:25.05 | emcnabb | http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08122003/business/83193.asp |
| 17:25.47 | emcnabb | http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08122003/business/83192.asp |
| 17:25.55 | emcnabb | two great articles... |
| 17:31.11 | Jayce^ | very good |
| 17:42.16 | elg | what is an AMR slot? |
| 17:50.24 | tensai | elg: Audio Modem Riser. a little used solution to creating cheaper winmodems and winsoundcards |
| 18:01.42 | brailsmt_work | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2003-08/msg00191.html |
| 18:24.14 | Jayce^ | why do you develop something and say it conforms to a well published standard, then tweak it just enough that it won't work with things that meet the existing standards? |
| 18:27.52 | *** join/#utah neybar (~jalance@dsl233.sisna.com) |
| 18:35.38 | *** part/#utah skidd (~skidd@12-255-45-104.client.attbi.com) |
| 18:40.09 | brailsmt_work | Jayce^: to try to force the standard to be what you want it to be... that is an advantage of being an illegal monopoly |
| 18:46.09 | sjansen | Actually, I've read a rather unbiased review that said MS might be doing things right. |
| 18:46.51 | brailsmt_work | sjansen: then are breaking precedent |
| 18:46.52 | sjansen | SOAP and web services are trying to be two things at once. Is it RPC, or is it document exchange? That fundamental paradigm is at the heart of the problem. |
| 18:47.22 | sjansen | I'll see if I can dig it up. |
| 18:55.41 | sjansen | Sorry, not finding it. |
| 18:56.09 | Jayce^ | riiight.. |
| 18:56.26 | Jayce^ | actually I've seen arguments from sources about certain aspects of their changes... |
| 18:56.40 | Jayce^ | but they are making some changes on hypothetical ideas, and calling them standard... |
| 18:57.41 | sjansen | Well, I haven't worked with anything produced by MS. Mono is the closest I come, so I can't comment on the nitty gritty. Wouldn't surprise me, though, with they history of Kerberos, MS-XSLT, etc. |
| 18:59.12 | Jayce^ | I've done a little soap stuff before, it's pretty cool for some things, but their server simply chokes with non .Net requests.. won't parse the xml correctly.. |
| 19:16.39 | *** join/#utah elg_ (fugalh@byu080636wks.byu.edu) |
| 19:40.02 | elg_ | what's with the topic? |
| 19:40.57 | Jayce^ | I think it's part of freenode's bugs with their new code.. |
| 19:41.12 | Jayce^ | wow, bush just nominated Gov Leavitt to be the head of the EPA. |
| 19:42.12 | emcnabb | yeah, that's going to get a lot of people fired up |
| 20:07.34 | sjansen | Yes, of course our product works with vendor X on Linux. |
| 20:08.15 | sjansen | Oh, you use the latest version of vendor X's product? I've only used the previous version.... before they made major changes. |
| 20:08.41 | sjansen | And by the way, I've only tested vendor X's product on IIS. |
| 20:08.58 | sjansen | But I bet the problem is your cookie domain. |
| 20:09.15 | sjansen | (Apache won't even start and you think the problem is the cookie domain?!) |
| 20:10.31 | sjansen | And people wonder why I prefer open source. I hate black boxes and sales reps that don't confirm before promising. |
| 20:10.48 | Jayce^ | hehe.. |
| 20:10.59 | sjansen | But at least this time we 've got a good contract that puts all the burden on them. |
| 20:52.44 | *** join/#utah skidd (~skidd@12-255-45-104.client.attbi.com) |
| 21:40.10 | *** join/#utah synic (~synic@208.187.125.239) |
| 21:44.56 | *** join/#utah brailsmt (~michael@12-254-250-249.client.attbi.com) |
| 22:48.03 | *** join/#utah bbeattie (~bbeattie@cpe-66-1-180-69.ut.sprintbbd.net) |
| 22:48.03 | *** join/#utah jayce_ (~jayce@63.228.195.1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 23:31.51 | *** join/#utah linuxalien (~linuxalie@12-254-238-235.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:43.15 | hans | Jayce^: trying to start up this box now - it just beeps. long single beeps. |
| 23:43.36 | hans | anyone know what that means? i've tried shorting the bios clear jumper |
| 23:44.36 | hans | nothing on the monitor |
| 23:45.03 | synic | isn't that a video card post? |
| 23:45.48 | synic | or maybe 3 longs beeps is memory... |
| 23:54.13 | *** join/#utah harleypig (~harleypig@dialupd103.logn.uswest.net) |
| 23:54.32 | harleypig | Anyone familiar with gpm? |