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| 05:55.42 | Jayce^ | the klez virus started sending emails as jason@plug.org today.. |
| 06:00.16 | Bradipo | NIce. |
| 06:00.27 | Jayce^ | what a pain in the arse.. |
| 06:00.40 | Bradipo | Who has that address in their address book? |
| 06:00.56 | Jayce^ | a lot of people possibly.. |
| 06:00.57 | Bradipo | What really sucks is that Klez is a really old virus. |
| 06:01.09 | Jayce^ | this person is on comcast.. |
| 06:01.38 | Jayce^ | Bradipo, since you like talking about email stuff, you ever look at http://amtp.bw.org/ |
| 06:01.59 | Jayce^ | part co-worker is producing it (bill weinman) |
| 06:02.21 | Bradipo | Hmm, I haven't seen this one before. |
| 06:02.37 | Bradipo | I am, however, acutely aware of the need to replace SMTP and also of other developments. |
| 06:02.43 | Jayce^ | he's really into stopping spam :) has some interesting ideas.. |
| 06:02.54 | Jayce^ | you might really enjoy trading ideas with him.. really good guy.. |
| 06:03.05 | Bradipo | My favorite idea so far has been: http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html |
| 06:03.23 | Bradipo | There is more to IM2000 than is listed on that webpage, however. |
| 06:03.33 | Jayce^ | yeah, I have heard about this some, but know very little.. |
| 06:04.06 | Bradipo | One of the most fundamental components of IM2000 is that the message is stored on the sender's server. |
| 06:04.32 | Bradipo | Hence, if a spammer wants to send out millions of emails, rather than the email being delivered to millions of mailboxes, it sits on his server. |
| 06:04.43 | Bradipo | Then, those people that want to download the message can do so. |
| 06:04.52 | Bradipo | Which means that casual spamming from a dialup will go away. |
| 06:04.57 | Jayce^ | yeah, that's the little bit I've heard.... I know almost nothing after that.. |
| 06:05.13 | Bradipo | There are also means for authenticating senders. |
| 06:05.35 | Bradipo | Servers, etc... |
| 06:05.44 | Jayce^ | does it have anything for bridging the old and new infrastructures? |
| 06:05.51 | Bradipo | Sadly enough, I doubt SMTP will ever be replaced. |
| 06:06.05 | Jayce^ | that's very sad :( |
| 06:06.12 | Bradipo | IM2000 doesn't address that, however, an implementor of IM2000 might want to develop it. |
| 06:06.39 | Bradipo | Certainly you will want to be able to communicate with others. |
| 06:06.51 | Bradipo | Kind of the same problem with IPv6. |
| 06:06.58 | Jayce^ | right.. |
| 06:07.29 | Jayce^ | might help me decide to actually run it.. |
| 06:08.11 | Bradipo | Looks like AMTP is fairly new. |
| 06:10.08 | Jayce^ | yes.. |
| 06:10.24 | Bradipo | later |
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