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| 13:08.40 | elg | blasted computer |
| 14:09.40 | elg | anyone know a site good for comparing system components for linux geeks? (e.g. more interested in overall system responsiveness and compile speed than gaming) |
| 14:09.53 | elg | oh, and more interested in low price than high-end. :) |
| 14:21.14 | Jayce^ | finally buying a new box elg? |
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| 14:41.22 | Jayce^ | whoooo HarleyPig in the house.. |
| 14:42.01 | HarleyPig | Heh. |
| 14:42.29 | Jayce^ | where you been hiding HarleyPig? |
| 14:42.53 | HarleyPig | Work and school. Sleeping in the cracks. |
| 14:43.19 | Jayce^ | you check out that opening at alpine? |
| 14:44.02 | HarleyPig | Yeah ... they didn't know what I was talking about. |
| 14:45.10 | Jayce^ | hrmm... check with kelly |
| 14:45.55 | HarleyPig | Is he in here? and what's his nick if so? |
| 14:49.05 | Jayce^ | no. |
| 14:50.28 | HarleyPig | Just found it on the web site. It wasn't there last week (or was it two weeks ago)! |
| 14:50.56 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 14:51.06 | Jayce^ | so HarleyPig, when we gonna do some gaming? |
| 14:51.15 | Jayce^ | you gotta bring your box over here and grab some more music |
| 14:53.04 | HarleyPig | Huh ... can't get X back up. And framebuffer X is a reall pita. |
| 14:53.17 | HarleyPig | Suzanne is starting to get really pissed. |
| 14:55.44 | Jayce^ | well, bring it over and we'll debug |
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| 15:07.47 | elg | Jayce^: new box? no. new mobo/cpu maybe. saturday morning it decided to go on vacation and turned off. couldn't get it back on. |
| 15:08.20 | HarleyPig | That's not a vacation! That's a "I quit!" |
| 15:08.35 | elg | then i was checking the powersupply with a volt/ohm meter and verified that the powersupply was good (even had it turn on and spin the drives up). plug it back on the mobo and (unfortunately!) it turned right on. |
| 15:08.47 | elg | i was really looking forward to an excuse to buy a new mobo/cpu :) |
| 15:09.11 | elg | well, it turned on when I pushed the switch after plugging it in, not on its own. |
| 15:10.22 | elg | i've had it up to here with this mobo though. Gonna see if I can't squeeze it in the budget even if it's not fully broken. :) |
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| 16:27.12 | jayce_ | elg, maybe I should just loan you one of my surplus things.. |
| 16:27.32 | jayce_ | or at our surplus trade, you could get it :) |
| 16:31.50 | jayce_ | grr.. nobody has responded about locations, or ideas for the surplus sale.. frustrating |
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| 16:51.55 | *** topic/#utah is http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/North_America/United_States/Utah/ --- http://mirror.lug-nut.com <- sco protest site |
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| 16:52.53 | HarleyPig | Hey! Splits can be fun! |
| 16:55.20 | jayce_ | heh |
| 17:05.34 | brailsmt_ | depends if you are the missionary or not... |
| 17:05.36 | brailsmt_ | ;) |
| 17:05.58 | HarleyPig | bad, very bad. :P |
| 17:06.14 | brailsmt_ | i know |
| 17:06.17 | brailsmt_ | ;) |
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| 17:23.25 | elg | i like the logo |
| 17:23.37 | elg | i had imagined something 'cuter' as well, but I like this better |
| 17:26.47 | jayce_ | I think I'd like a different font/text effect.. |
| 17:27.00 | jayce_ | but yeah, I imagined a 'cuter' bee, but I like this one.. |
| 17:38.30 | brailsmt_ | i think cuter would be dumb... |
| 17:38.37 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 17:38.52 | brailsmt_ | i like the look of this one, and I like the more professional look |
| 17:40.46 | Hanuman | I think this one has a nice, serious look, which may be more appropriate for the group |
| 17:41.26 | Hanuman | It would be fun to have a 'cute' mascot as well, though |
| 17:42.12 | tensai | did anyone else think "Korihor the Killerbee"? |
| 17:42.20 | jayce_ | d'oh :) |
| 17:42.37 | Hanuman | hehe |
| 17:42.47 | jayce_ | I just think we need to do something with the font/text.. leave the bee as is.. |
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| 17:43.23 | Hanuman | If the bee is what everyone seems to agree on, I agree, the text seems to "bug" me a bit |
| 17:47.32 | elg | any nvidia veterans? This work comp has a "NVidia / SGS Thomson (Joint Venture) Riva128 (rev 21)", and I'd like to get a 3d accelerated driver working if possible |
| 17:48.00 | tensai | all nvidia hardware uses the same drivers |
| 17:48.00 | Hanuman | I'm an ATI man myself |
| 17:48.14 | jayce_ | elg, just grab the nvidia driver, setup is cake.. |
| 17:48.25 | elg | where? |
| 17:48.36 | tensai | nvidia.com |
| 17:48.53 | elg | i'm not seeing it. |
| 17:48.58 | jayce_ | just grab the .run file, run it.. then edit xf86config to use the 'nvidia' driver (instead of nv) and make sure 'load "GLX"' is in there.. |
| 17:49.08 | jayce_ | up at the top should be a drivers link, |
| 17:49.17 | jayce_ | then a normal text link for linux/freebsd drivers.. |
| 17:49.19 | Hanuman | I think in the evenings this week I'm going to piece together a site-design (just sliced images at first) using that logo. I don't think the text exactly needs to be with it for the moment. |
| 17:49.43 | elg | jayce_: IA32? |
| 17:49.46 | jayce_ | yup |
| 17:49.58 | jayce_ | unless you got a nicer machine than the rest of us :) |
| 17:51.03 | tensai | just be careful if you upgrade xlibs, etc. the nvidia driver replaces some X libraries like libGL.so |
| 17:51.34 | tensai | if X doesn't start just do a make install in NVIDIA_GLX |
| 17:51.44 | goozbach | nvidia hardware is pretty easy to set-up. even stuff like twinview. |
| 17:53.04 | jayce_ | incredibly easy nowadays... |
| 17:53.23 | goozbach | even the nforce chipset is easy to set up. |
| 17:53.28 | jayce_ | libmesa can cause problems with nvidias opengl, that's the only thing to watch out for.. |
| 17:53.51 | tensai | I added a MODULE_LICENSE("GPL") to the header file of the kernel module to I don't get a Tainted warning. :) |
| 17:53.51 | jayce_ | goozbach, I am having troubles with the nforce nic in mdk 9.1, but I haven't taken any time to play with it.. |
| 17:54.13 | jayce_ | it works so well, I dont' care if it's tainted :) |
| 17:54.19 | goozbach | the only problem I've seen is that unreal tournament crashes on me every so often. |
| 17:54.33 | jayce_ | really? I haven't had that at all? ut2k3 or the old one? |
| 17:54.41 | goozbach | ut original |
| 17:54.43 | jayce_ | I only had issues like that with really old ones.. |
| 17:55.02 | jayce_ | goozbach, maybe it's not liking some other libraries, if you are using a more modern glibc, and such? |
| 17:55.03 | goozbach | I am running it on the nforce2 chipset video |
| 17:55.28 | jayce_ | my nforce doesn't have the onboard video (didn't need it, Ti 4200 :) ) |
| 17:55.36 | goozbach | jayce_: I'm using the default that comes with RH9.0 |
| 17:56.09 | jayce_ | goozbach, yeah, those are newer than the libs that ut originally tried to work with, I'd look around at that being more likely than your video |
| 17:56.35 | jayce_ | I haven't had an nvidia crash in a loong time, and I'm runing twinview too.. |
| 18:00.00 | goozbach | jayce_: have you tried the nvidia network rpm? |
| 18:00.11 | goozbach | let me see if I can find it. |
| 18:00.44 | jayce_ | nvidia network? |
| 18:01.37 | goozbach | looks like they put it all into one rpm. |
| 18:01.47 | goozbach | it used to be in seperate rpms |
| 18:34.44 | jayce_ | neybar's wife just had their baby... |
| 18:35.49 | goozbach | send him my congratulations |
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| 19:23.50 | jayce_ | so you at school HarleyPig? |
| 19:32.57 | jayce_ | gotta test out the card 'eh? |
| 19:32.59 | elg | i'm going to have to start planning on lunch breaks. |
| 19:33.16 | elg | works great (tested bzflag and tuxracer) |
| 19:33.46 | jayce_ | lol. |
| 19:34.14 | jayce_ | how fast is the machine? |
| 19:34.54 | elg | dual 1.7G intel |
| 19:35.12 | jayce_ | niiiice |
| 19:35.20 | elg | yes, it is. :) |
| 19:35.26 | jayce_ | pick up army ops, and RTCW:Enemy territory |
| 19:35.37 | jayce_ | both good, and free |
| 19:35.45 | jayce_ | icculus.org has links for both |
| 19:36.19 | elg | although the one I usually use is 500mhz pII with a riva128 card that nvidia's driver doesn't recognize for some reason. |
| 19:36.38 | elg | The other is usually available, though. |
| 19:41.36 | jayce_ | those games are quite fun... I'd like to get some locals playing :ET some.. |
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| 21:26.32 | Bradipo | http://www.trustic.com |
| 21:26.37 | Bradipo | Y'all should sign up. |
| 21:26.53 | Bradipo | I've already submitted 76 spam. |
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| 21:58.50 | jayce_ | they have an automated way? |
| 21:58.58 | jayce_ | just starting to read the page.. |
| 22:07.41 | Bradipo | Yeah, it's pretty automated. |
| 22:07.51 | jayce_ | cool |
| 22:08.04 | shadoi | for what? |
| 22:08.21 | Bradipo | It uses a trust network like ebay does for rating buyers and sellers. |
| 22:11.29 | jayce_ | looks pretty cool, Bradipo you should pass this along to plug... |
| 22:11.56 | jayce_ | they even make it easy to set stuff up to use it.. |
| 22:12.28 | Bradipo | I've already given a postivite recommendation to PLUGs server. :-) |
| 22:12.33 | jayce_ | thanks :) |
| 22:12.44 | Bradipo | So, if the rest of you all give it good recommendations, my reputation will go up. |
| 22:12.47 | jayce_ | I'll probably set this up tonight.. |
| 22:12.52 | jayce_ | as will ours |
| 22:12.55 | shadoi | What is it? |
| 22:13.09 | jayce_ | it's a mail server trust network.. |
| 22:13.09 | Bradipo | http://www.trustic.com |
| 22:13.42 | jayce_ | so you can filter email before it get's transferred, or delivered, based on how much the community trusts them.. |
| 22:14.34 | shadoi | based on header info? |
| 22:14.42 | shadoi | like servers it's passed through? |
| 22:14.44 | jayce_ | dns |
| 22:14.52 | shadoi | interesting... reading... |
| 22:14.57 | jayce_ | yeah, you are rating the server itself, not the content.. |
| 22:15.10 | jayce_ | so it's part of the whole filtration chain :) |
| 22:17.49 | shadoi | hmm... depends on people submitting ratings for untrusted servers? |
| 22:18.09 | Bradipo | Right. |
| 22:18.13 | Bradipo | However, the majority rating rules. |
| 22:18.16 | Bradipo | I suppose. |
| 22:18.34 | Bradipo | Maybe this isn't a good method. :-) SCO's mail servers might not be able to send email to anyone... |
| 22:19.19 | shadoi | hehe |
| 22:19.48 | shadoi | It would be good if they tied it to an email rating system based on end-users... and then banned the servers that those emails are coming from. |
| 22:20.02 | Bradipo | Of course, if I have a good reputation (with respect to other users and mail servers) I might be able to thwart that. |
| 22:20.54 | shadoi | spoofed headers will always be the biggest problem. |
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| 22:42.54 | Bradipo | spoofed headers won't be a problem. |
| 22:43.08 | Bradipo | You should always be able to trust the headers printed by your server. |
| 22:43.15 | Bradipo | If you can't, then you have big problems. |
| 22:43.24 | Bradipo | And the only IP you should ever block is the one printed by your server. |
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