| 00:09.01 | rama | goozbach: how did you hook it up to your car? I can't see anything on Roberto's site about that. |
| 00:09.46 | goozbach | rama: I just plugged it into the multi-cd player port on my pioneer deck. |
| 00:10.54 | rama | okay - that's an easy way of doing it. |
| 00:12.57 | goozbach | rama: there is a converter you can buy for a stereo 1/8' jack |
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| 02:06.54 | Jayce^ | glad to see you on plug brailsmt.. |
| 02:06.55 | hans | can you do an 'assign this makefile variable if it doesn't already exist as an environment variable'? |
| 02:07.59 | brailsmt | with automake? |
| 02:08.02 | brailsmt | yes |
| 02:09.04 | brailsmt | bad day for somafm... |
| 02:15.13 | hans | with make |
| 02:15.45 | hans | (If the `-e' flag is specified, then values from the environment override assignments in the makefile. See section Summary of Options. But this is not recommended practice.) |
| 02:15.54 | hans | why, pray tell, not? |
| 02:16.07 | hans | seems like a good way to give defaults |
| 02:20.08 | brailsmt | as it is values in the makefile override the env vars... |
| 02:20.24 | brailsmt | that is pretty typical, IMO |
| 02:20.41 | brailsmt | env vars -> config files -> cmd line options |
| 02:20.51 | brailsmt | as far as precedence goes... |
| 02:21.03 | brailsmt | and Makefiles fit with config files |
| 02:21.04 | hans | ahh |
| 02:21.06 | hans | If you'd like a variable to be set to a value only if it's not already set, then you can use the shorthand operator `?=' instead of `='. |
| 02:21.37 | hans | brailsmt: exactly - it's backwards. you expect the values on the command line to override what's in the config file |
| 02:22.55 | brailsmt | well, env vars have the least precedence, cmd line options the most... cmd line options don't override vars in the Makefile? |
| 02:23.27 | hans | hmm, you're right - but how do you say "PREFIX=$HOME" on the command-line of make? |
| 02:23.59 | brailsmt | i guess you only want to define things in the makefile if they don't exist already, otherwise use the predefined value... |
| 02:24.13 | brailsmt | PREFIX=$HOME make |
| 02:24.55 | brailsmt | s/predefined/env var |
| 02:26.34 | hans | exactly. that was my question. ?= is the answer, apparently. |
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| 02:41.53 | brailsmt | hooray for somafm!!! |
| 02:41.59 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 02:48.10 | brailsmt | somafm.com has been offline almost all day due to network outage... |
| 02:48.21 | brailsmt | somafm.com is home to my favorite music stream... |
| 02:49.29 | Jayce^ | anybody tried running http://VOCPsystem.com/ before? |
| 02:55.11 | brailsmt | nop |
| 02:55.14 | brailsmt | nope |
| 02:55.54 | Jayce^ | looks pretty dang sweet.. |
| 03:01.33 | Jayce^ | even shows you how to set up so you can have mail delivered, via festival text-to-speech, to your voicemail |
| 03:20.17 | hans | heh, that's cool |
| 03:20.24 | hans | ok, sed experts, what's this do? |
| 03:20.27 | hans | sed 's/^[^#]/#&/' |
| 03:21.16 | hans | well, i guess you don't need to be a sed expert |
| 03:22.09 | hans | does #& mean anything special? |
| 03:23.46 | hans | ahh, it comments out the lines that aren't commented out |
| 03:27.00 | goozbach | opps |
| 03:31.49 | Jayce^ | hans, the bracket is a character class, so it is searching for lines that '^' start with anything that is NOT a hash mark ([^#]) and replacing it with a line starting with one.. |
| 03:32.21 | hans | got that - I don't get the & after the # though |
| 04:43.50 | rama | hans: could & be a space??? Not sure on that one either. |
| 04:45.11 | rama | What would be the nirvanna of Bhuddism in programming vs. the nirvanna of Hinduism in programming? |
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| 18:27.17 | rama | So, pony... |
| 18:28.34 | rama | $parrot =~ m/pony/ |
| 18:28.51 | rama | $pony =~ m/Perl 5.1/ |
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| 18:43.56 | elg | any pointer gurus here? |
| 18:48.37 | neybar | naw... I use perl... |
| 18:49.57 | neybar | I need to refresh my C though. I pushed pointers out of my mind completely. |
| 18:50.45 | neybar | C linked lists in cs235(I think) left me with a less then enthusiastic relationship with C... |
| 18:53.52 | elg | then you wouldn't want to deal with what I'm deailng with now :) |
| 18:54.04 | neybar | lol |
| 18:58.00 | elg | I'm passing around triple-pointers |
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| 19:02.58 | HarleyPig | Anyone here can answer some wierd network questions? |
| 19:03.15 | neybar | shoot |
| 19:03.44 | HarleyPig | I'm in class at the moment and we are trying to set up a private network which can connect to a public network. |
| 19:04.07 | neybar | ok |
| 19:04.12 | HarleyPig | If we set static ips (192.168.2.*) we can see each other just fine, but not the school network. |
| 19:04.31 | HarleyPig | If we set ourselves for dhcp (192.168.0.*) we can see the school network but not the private network. |
| 19:04.33 | neybar | you need a gateway of some sort to bridge the two |
| 19:05.08 | HarleyPig | Hmmm ... I hadn't thought of that. Can it be as simple as a router or hub, or do we need softwrae for it? |
| 19:05.43 | neybar | a router would do it, you can also use software. set up one computer with two nic's and install iptables would be pretty easy |
| 19:06.12 | HarleyPig | Unfortunately, we're in winblows. But that gives me and idea. |
| 19:06.42 | neybar | so I guess you don't have the option of setting up dual ip's for each nic then... |
| 19:06.59 | HarleyPig | heh |
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| 19:42.42 | jayce | uhhh |
| 19:56.53 | elg | c'mon jayce, you can imagine a moose doing that, can't you? |
| 19:57.11 | jayce | actually, that doesn't really jump to mind when I think of a moose |
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| 20:18.26 | rama | elg: didn't the donkey on Shrek do a backflip at one time or another - I don't see why a moose couldn't do it |
| 20:19.43 | elg | precisely |
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| 20:51.56 | Bonez39 | greetings..anyone use streaming media..in their web browser, i.e., to listen to radio broadcasts? |
| 20:52.16 | Bonez39 | I am running opera, and can't seem to figure out how to get sound working to allow for streaming audio.. |
| 20:52.23 | jayce | Brailsmt does.. |
| 20:52.54 | levi | I have opera launch xmms for streaming mp3s. |
| 20:53.09 | levi | I suppose you could also have it launch realplayer or whatever. |
| 20:53.29 | Bonez39 | ok, levi. I run xmms and that works for mp3's...sure...does real player install under linux too? |
| 20:53.57 | jayce | yeah, they have a version.. |
| 20:54.02 | jayce | but you can do it with mplayer too |
| 20:54.08 | Bonez39 | mplayer? |
| 20:54.12 | Bonez39 | is that part of opera? |
| 20:54.32 | levi | No, mplayer is a universal media player. |
| 20:54.40 | levi | It's pretty spiffy. |
| 20:55.07 | levi | Plays Quicktime, Windows Media, Real, mpeg, mp3, etc. |
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| 20:58.49 | Bonez39 | well, I need to get it then.. |
| 20:59.09 | emcnabb | I use xmms for streaming too |
| 20:59.39 | synic_ | any of you guys ruby gurus, or is it just brailsmt and hans? |
| 20:59.41 | rama | Bonez39: videolan.org has some excellent plugins for streaming media - supports mpg2 as well |
| 20:59.56 | synic_ | ah, hey elg. |
| 21:00.00 | Bonez39 | emcnabb? how would you use xmms to tap into a site that streams radio broadcasts? |
| 21:00.04 | synic_ | hey, is there a ruby encoder? |
| 21:00.12 | synic_ | or some other way to obfuscate ruby code? |
| 21:00.14 | Bonez39 | rama: thanks.. |
| 21:00.16 | tensai | I use the mplayer plugin. works pretty good but you need to know the keyboard commands as there's no buttons |
| 21:01.15 | rama | Bonez39: if you ever want to stream media as a server for free videolan.org is also a great way to do it... |
| 21:01.16 | elg | why would you want to do that? |
| 21:01.23 | elg | (obfuscate ruby code) |
| 21:02.00 | synic_ | I dunno, in case you were writing web scripts for money |
| 21:03.45 | synic_ | I have a PHP encoder, I like the full OOP support idea of ruby |
| 21:04.01 | elg | synic_: where you can encode, you can decode |
| 21:04.12 | synic_ | one problem is that I believe it will be a pain to get any hosting company to install mod_ruby or eruby |
| 21:04.17 | elg | it just takes a small bit more effort |
| 21:04.46 | synic_ | elg: that's not true for everyone |
| 21:05.17 | elg | well, you can keep one developer from reading/stealing your code, yes, but your competitor will actually try. |
| 21:05.28 | synic_ | I've had companies I wrote scripts in PHP for that if I hadn't encoded them with a timebomb or an IP restriction, I would be have been screwed. |
| 21:06.21 | synic_ | as a freelancer, I don't really have the kind of competition that would try to decode my source |
| 21:06.32 | elg | i see what you're saying |
| 21:08.25 | emcnabb | Bonez39: I just give it the url; most of the time it works |
| 21:13.22 | elg | whoa |
| 21:13.53 | elg | i'm listening to xmms, fired up koules, and hear sound effects while music is going. what did I miss - what made this possible? |
| 21:16.03 | elg | maybe it's the soundcard on this box (emu10k1) |
| 21:16.07 | emcnabb | you mean having two apps use the sound device at the same time? |
| 21:17.25 | levi | elg: Are they both using /dev/dsp, or are you using something like arts or esd? |
| 21:17.55 | elg | xmms is using the alsa plugin |
| 21:18.06 | levi | Some sound cards have two audio out channels and hardware mixing. |
| 21:18.12 | levi | And alsa supports them. |
| 21:20.39 | elg | i bet that's it then. man I gotta get me one. :) |
| 21:20.53 | elg | (this is at work) |
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| 21:23.18 | Bonez39 | emcnabb: I am trying that now...putting the URL in to xmms...not sure that I have it right though..I tried http://www.dw-world.de/ and it does not respond.. |
| 21:31.16 | emcnabb | Bonez39: I have to put in the exact path of the stream |
| 21:31.58 | levi | Audio links there appear to be in Real format. |
| 21:31.58 | Bonez39 | oh, that's the tricky part..right? finding that path. |
| 21:32.17 | emcnabb | just right click and copy the url |
| 21:32.18 | Bonez39 | levi, do you mean at the deutsche welle site? |
| 21:32.23 | levi | Yeah. |
| 21:32.25 | emcnabb | then paste it into xmms |
| 21:33.51 | Bonez39 | I do that....no response though... here's what I paste http://www.dw-world.de/english# and then I hit OK.and then when I hit the play button on xmms, it opens back up the dialogue asking for the source... |
| 21:35.16 | levi | There are a lot of articles there, you have to click on the 'sound' links and get the URL from the 'no plugin' link in the popup window. |
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| 21:44.39 | goozbach | anyone here ever successfully replaced the backlight on a laptop_screen? |
| 21:46.55 | Bonez39 | I have a laptop with a broken screen..the glass plate cracked..it's a hitachi screen..trying to figure out how to replace it without costing several hundred. |
| 21:47.35 | goozbach | I just want to find out how much the backlight itself will cost |
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| 22:23.56 | elg | lol. stuart and mhalcrow are a crackup |
| 22:23.56 | elg | i think we should have them dress up in sumo costumes and film it. stuart with "vi" on his tummy and mike with a nice picture of stallman on his |
| 22:23.57 | Bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.57 | Bonez39 | trying to figure out how to run it. |
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| 22:24.15 | jayce | that would be worth watching. |
| 22:24.25 | jayce | Bonez39, gmplayer is the gui.. |
| 22:24.30 | jayce | usually easier... |
| 22:24.43 | jayce | you might need to specify what output format to use |
| 22:26.34 | Bonez39 | is gmplayer part of mplayer or something I have to install separately? |
| 22:27.02 | jayce | umm, not sure what you got... I think you have to specifically enable it when compiling.. |
| 22:27.09 | jayce | (been a while since I've done it) |
| 22:27.15 | Bonez39 | ok... |
| 22:27.28 | jayce | something like --enable-gui or something |
| 22:43.21 | brailsmt | hah, now I know who elg is :) |
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| 23:49.51 | emcnabb | did any one else's power just go off for 30+ minutes? |
| 23:54.46 | Jayce^ | no |
| 23:55.11 | Jayce^ | but I gotta power down for a minute on my own though |
| 23:58.40 | Bradipo | Anyone here have good Cisco experience? |