| 00:19.51 | hans | anyone headed to plug tonight wanna print out a few handouts? |
| 00:20.52 | Jayce_laptop | sorry, don't have access to a printer atm |
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| 05:22.16 | Jayce^ | harleypig, what's up man?! |
| 05:32.31 | harleypig | Not much ... |
| 05:33.15 | Jayce^ | haven't seen you around.. |
| 05:33.20 | Jayce^ | tried calling you today.. |
| 05:34.10 | harleypig | cell phone? |
| 05:34.38 | harleypig | X won't start. It hangs the system hard. |
| 05:35.00 | Jayce^ | ouch.. |
| 05:35.01 | harleypig | I've got links going in framebuffer so Suzanne can read her websites, and I can read sluggy and UF. |
| 05:35.04 | Jayce^ | no, land line |
| 05:35.10 | Jayce^ | hehe.. |
| 05:35.20 | Jayce^ | any clues on the X problem? what driver? |
| 05:35.24 | harleypig | But she's not happy with me. Hmmm ... what time did you call? |
| 05:35.40 | Jayce^ | umm, earlier.. was trying to see if you were coming tonight |
| 05:35.53 | harleypig | No. It's happening wth either nv or nvidia, 640x400 2 color. |
| 05:36.05 | harleypig | I thought you were at oscon? |
| 05:36.09 | Jayce^ | really? what's the x log say.. |
| 05:36.15 | Jayce^ | no, stuff came up last minute, couldn't go.. |
| 05:36.22 | Jayce^ | I'll tell you in more detail later... |
| 05:36.32 | Jayce^ | ticked off about that of course :) |
| 05:37.46 | harleypig | Hmmm ... where was I at 6.30 ... Oh, I was at Homemaking with Suzanne. |
| 05:38.06 | Jayce^ | *snicker* |
| 05:38.09 | harleypig | X log has nothing unusual. It ends when setting the mouse. |
| 05:38.38 | Jayce^ | you try it without the mouse settings? also do you have it set to die if no mouse configuration? |
| 05:38.38 | harleypig | If I disable the mouse, it ends just before that. It appears to be hanging when rendering the screen. |
| 05:39.00 | Jayce^ | AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work |
| 05:39.31 | Jayce^ | try turning of loading glx maybe? |
| 05:39.40 | Jayce^ | you using xfs? |
| 05:39.47 | harleypig | I got to the point where I've reinstalled from scratch ... still getting the same thing. Yeah ... the problem is, if I use twm as the wm the mouse cursor works. |
| 05:39.51 | harleypig | Nope ... reiserfs |
| 05:40.04 | Jayce^ | xfs as in x font server |
| 05:40.22 | Jayce^ | wait, so if you use twm you can get into x? |
| 05:40.23 | harleypig | Oh ... I compiled it, but I don't have it working yet. |
| 05:40.59 | harleypig | No, more of the screen renders and I can see the mouse and it moves, but the system is still frozen hard and the log is no different than with KDE or Gnome. |
| 05:42.34 | Jayce^ | hrmm. I had a problem like that once with permissions on my .kde and similar dirs.. that might be a route to follow (you try one of the box wm's too? ) |
| 05:42.49 | Jayce^ | you want my XFconfig? see if that helps? |
| 05:43.09 | Jayce^ | updated your nvidia driver ,well you said you tried both.. |
| 05:43.59 | harleypig | Yeah, I tried gcc 3.2.3, 3.3, older nvidia drivers, newest, my old XF86Config, one from scratch. |
| 05:44.31 | harleypig | On the plus side ... I got mplayer working with SVGAlib. |
| 05:45.08 | harleypig | Tried X 3.3.3 (I think that was the one) 4.3.0, 4.3.0.1 |
| 05:45.29 | Jayce^ | yeah, definately use the 4.3 x series.. |
| 05:45.37 | harleypig | I was thinking it might be the card or the monitors but framebuffer is working fine, so I doubt it. |
| 05:45.45 | Jayce^ | you are editing the xf86config-4 ? |
| 05:46.05 | Jayce^ | doubt it too.. I'd say it's a config issue most likely.. |
| 05:46.54 | harleypig | Yeah, xf86config-4 |
| 05:47.11 | harleypig | Suzanne's kicking me off so she can surf. :> |
| 05:47.26 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 05:47.47 | Jayce^ | tell me when you get back on |
| 05:48.08 | harleypig | I'll probably have to put this off till I get home tomorrow afternoon. I have to get up early for school. |
| 05:49.05 | Jayce^ | k |
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| 15:07.39 | elg | debian. vim 6.2 (using gtk2). no antialiasing. I want to either A) get gvim to use terminus (not true-type), or B) get antialiasing on so luxi mono looks good. |
| 15:08.06 | elg | at the moment I'm inclined to recompile vim without gtk2 |
| 15:09.50 | elg | someoone mentioned once that antialiasing is a function of the window manager? can that be so? |
| 15:12.00 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 15:12.11 | Jayce^ | that's where it's handled |
| 15:12.52 | Bradipo | How was PLUG last night? |
| 15:12.56 | elg | hrm. |
| 15:12.59 | Bradipo | I really wanted to be there... |
| 15:13.51 | elg | went well It hink |
| 15:14.03 | Jayce^ | think so too.. |
| 15:14.42 | elg | i take it windowmaker doesn't do antialiasing |
| 15:15.20 | Jayce^ | no idea |
| 15:15.32 | Jayce^ | fluxbox, blackbox, gnome, kde all do |
| 15:18.17 | elg | windowmaker does in CVS. |
| 15:18.44 | Jayce^ | elg, what imap server do you use? |
| 15:18.49 | elg | courier |
| 15:19.00 | Jayce^ | ok, I need some help setting it up I think.. |
| 15:19.26 | Bradipo | courier-imap is execllent. |
| 15:19.33 | Bradipo | What are you running into? |
| 15:19.43 | Jayce^ | i cast it (compiled/installed), did pw2userdb - makeuserdb.. |
| 15:19.50 | Jayce^ | say's it can't connect now |
| 15:20.13 | Jayce^ | before the makeuserdb, of course, it said I could be verified/wrong password |
| 15:21.55 | Jayce^ | hrmm.. does the imap server require ldap to be compiled in to run? |
| 15:22.26 | Jayce^ | compiled it with gdbm (didn't like it with db) |
| 15:22.46 | Bradipo | No. |
| 15:22.49 | Bradipo | You don't have to use LDAP. |
| 15:23.02 | Bradipo | Did you start up the authdaemond? |
| 15:23.09 | Jayce^ | thought I did |
| 15:24.07 | Bradipo | What authentication modules are you using? |
| 15:24.14 | Bradipo | In the authdaemonrc. |
| 15:24.22 | Bradipo | Or whatever the file is... :-) |
| 15:24.38 | Jayce^ | yeah, it's running.. |
| 15:26.41 | Jayce^ | looking for the file |
| 15:30.01 | elg | heh: |
| 15:30.02 | elg | gcc -g -O2 -o .libs/wtest wtest.o ../../WINGs/libWINGs.a ../../wrlib/.libs/libwraster.so -L/home/fugalh/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lpng /usr/lib/libjpeg.so -lungif -lXext -lm -lXft /usr/lib/libfreetype.so -lz /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so -lX11 -lfontconfig -D__LIBTOOL_IS_A_FOOL__ -D__LIBTOOL_IS_A_FOOL__ |
| 15:31.50 | Jayce^ | authmodulelist="authcustom authcram authuserdb authpgsql authmysql authshadow authpwd" |
| 15:34.32 | Bradipo | You might want to remove the modules you aren't using. |
| 15:34.40 | Bradipo | Like authpgsql and authmysql |
| 15:34.46 | Jayce^ | k |
| 15:35.09 | Jayce^ | not sure what the authcustom is |
| 15:35.21 | Bradipo | But that looks fine. |
| 15:35.32 | Bradipo | Well, if you wrote your own custom authentication mechanism. |
| 15:35.37 | Bradipo | I suppose. |
| 15:36.33 | Jayce^ | well, took it out.. |
| 15:36.36 | Jayce^ | doesn't work |
| 15:36.41 | Jayce^ | stil |
| 15:36.42 | Jayce^ | still |
| 15:36.46 | Jayce^ | starts up.. |
| 15:36.51 | Bradipo | What starts up? |
| 15:36.57 | Jayce^ | authdaeomon |
| 15:37.08 | Bradipo | elg: Yeah, I don't like libtool |
| 15:37.13 | Bradipo | Ok. |
| 15:37.35 | Jayce^ | wait, maybe only the pgsql one is running.. .wierd.. |
| 15:37.36 | Bradipo | What kind of users do you have? |
| 15:37.52 | Bradipo | You know, if you just chmod 644 all the modules you aren't using... |
| 15:38.39 | Bradipo | Like authdaemond.ldap, authdaemond.pgsql, etc... |
| 15:38.50 | Bradipo | They are in /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib I believe. |
| 15:38.52 | Jayce^ | pgsql is the only one running.. wierd.. |
| 15:39.05 | Jayce^ | looking at my startup script, trying to figure out why only that one is going.. |
| 15:39.07 | Bradipo | Leave the authdaemond.plain |
| 15:39.16 | Bradipo | I'm telling you why. :-) |
| 15:39.39 | Bradipo | It checks to see which ones are executable and picks the first one I believe. |
| 15:40.08 | Bradipo | So, if you remove the executable bit, then it should only load the one you want. |
| 15:41.20 | Jayce^ | hrmm. now none of those are running.. plain is there, only one with execute, but it's not running |
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| 15:43.39 | Jayce^ | now I'm getting can't authenticate via plain, but that's all that's available now |
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| 16:05.24 | elg | victory |
| 16:07.39 | levi | ? |
| 16:07.43 | elg | windowmaker now has truetype fonts. luxi mono still looks lame though. maybe I was crazy that day. |
| 16:08.02 | elg | s/truetype/xft (truetype/antialiased)/ |
| 16:08.03 | levi | Huh. |
| 16:08.18 | levi | What are you using Luxi Mono for? |
| 16:08.41 | elg | and I can't for the life of me tell whether gvim looks any different now or not. (I can see it in the tielbars and menu of windowmaker, thought) |
| 16:10.03 | elg | gvim. |
| 16:10.33 | elg | I guess I'll go with monospace. |
| 16:10.34 | levi | Hmm. Well, there are lots of other monospace fonts. :) |
| 16:10.43 | elg | which do you use? |
| 16:10.50 | levi | If the font name is just 'monospace', it's probably an alias for another one. |
| 16:11.21 | Bradipo | Jayce^: Are your users virtual or real? |
| 16:11.26 | Jayce^ | real |
| 16:12.15 | neybar | I have a "the right way (tm)" question about mail... What is the best setup for doing email. Currently I have postfix delivering to mailbox format. I really want to setup the procmail coolness that we learned about yesterday. Realisticly though I am the only one on my server who will care about the stuff that procmail can do for me. Is it better to leave postfix as it is and just use fetchmail and procmail through that, or is there another wa |
| 16:12.16 | neybar | y to do it so that everyone else can at least utilize the spam features without requiring them to understand procmailrc. Also I am interested in making mail available through squirrelmail or some other web based format |
| 16:12.19 | Jayce^ | just want my real users to grab imap mail from ~/Mail |
| 16:13.00 | Bradipo | Hmm, did you change something? Normally courier-imap uses Maildir |
| 16:13.04 | Bradipo | ~/Maildir/ |
| 16:13.08 | Jayce^ | oh.. |
| 16:13.14 | Jayce^ | that might be an issue. |
| 16:13.16 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 16:13.22 | Bradipo | In fact, it might cause authentication failures. |
| 16:13.25 | Jayce^ | I set my stuff to deliver there.. |
| 16:14.59 | elg | neybar: which spam features? |
| 16:15.15 | neybar | I currently have spamassasin but I want to try bogo |
| 16:15.24 | levi | elg: I have a few different ones. Bitstream Courier, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, etc. |
| 16:15.31 | elg | do you want to filter it? |
| 16:15.39 | elg | or just flag it with a header? |
| 16:15.58 | neybar | not sure yet. for me personally filtered, for others not sure yet. |
| 16:16.18 | elg | you can probably integrate spamassasin into the MTA (postfix in your case) |
| 16:16.24 | Bradipo | What was the concensus for spam blocking last night? |
| 16:16.35 | elg | then you filter with bogofilter in procmail |
| 16:16.40 | Bradipo | Did you guys discuss greylisting? |
| 16:16.56 | elg | Bradipo: what do you mean by greylisting? |
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| 16:20.20 | Jayce^ | Bradipo, that fixed it.. connected, but now I guess I gotta modify my procmail.. |
| 16:20.52 | Jayce^ | I created a /Maildir/myfolder for some mail, and can't see it via imap.. |
| 16:21.04 | Jayce^ | does the myfolder need to be under /Maildir/new ? |
| 16:24.20 | Jayce^ | k, I see how it works.. |
| 16:24.25 | Jayce^ | creates .Foldername |
| 16:24.26 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 16:24.28 | Bradipo | Now. |
| 16:24.34 | Jayce^ | and it works.. |
| 16:24.35 | Bradipo | Now. |
| 16:24.36 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 16:24.40 | Bradipo | .foldername is correct. |
| 16:24.47 | Jayce^ | just needed to adjust the recipie to go to .folder instead of folder |
| 16:25.06 | Bradipo | Also, if you are using procmail, you might consider using safecat to deliver the mail as well (does procmail even support Maildir?) |
| 16:25.32 | Bradipo | Actually, what would be even better is to convert your procmail to maildrop (which is more tailored to Maildir. :-) |
| 16:26.01 | Bradipo | And, the rest of the courier software uses maildrop. |
| 16:26.20 | Bradipo | So, if you install SqWebMail for webmail access, you can edit your mail filters via the web gui... |
| 16:26.49 | neybar | so is maildrop a procmail replacement? |
| 16:27.12 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 16:27.14 | Jayce^ | yeah, procmail is doing great with maildir |
| 16:27.29 | Bradipo | maildrop is much less cryptic though. |
| 16:28.05 | Jayce^ | was playing with @mail.. mod_perl, *very* nice interface... commercial license, but the free download has all the mod_perl and html.. |
| 16:28.06 | Bradipo | http://www.courier-mta.org/download.php |
| 16:28.10 | Jayce^ | just started checking it out |
| 16:28.36 | Bradipo | maildrop is found there... |
| 16:34.21 | elg | Bradipo: maildrop is only less cryptic if you know perl |
| 16:34.34 | Bradipo | I don't know perl. |
| 16:34.56 | elg | procmail really isn't hard once you get it. maildrop looks promising too, but not worth the learning curve when I already know procmail. plus procmail is ubiquitous |
| 16:35.18 | Bradipo | Well, I can read perl, but I couldn't write a basic hello world in perl without a lot of work. :-) |
| 16:35.29 | Jayce^ | now I need to see if I can get my wife's iMail to connect via ssl to the courier imap |
| 16:35.41 | Bradipo | It's ubiquitoous on the systems you have used... :-) |
| 16:36.15 | Bradipo | Maybe maildrop wasn't really meant to learned though---I must admit that I only edit the files when I don't trust the GUI. |
| 16:36.50 | elg | maildrop: |
| 16:36.51 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.52 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.52 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.52 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.55 | elg | procmail: |
| 16:37.00 | elg | :0 |
| 16:37.16 | elg | * ^Delivered-To: *auto@domain\.com$ |
| 16:37.26 | elg | archive/ |
| 16:37.32 | elg | make that :0: auto.lock |
| 16:38.03 | elg | neither really looks more or less complicated to me. maildrop may be a bit easier to read if you're a perlite |
| 16:38.07 | Bradipo | Hmm, I believe the ``|archive'' is a filter, not a mailbox. |
| 16:38.15 | Bradipo | Could be. |
| 16:38.23 | Bradipo | I have used procmail. |
| 16:38.35 | elg | that was a guess. same syntax for a filter in procmail |
| 16:39.04 | Bradipo | So, with procmail, the trailing slash indicates a Maildir? |
| 16:39.16 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:39.21 | Bradipo | That's good to know... |
| 16:39.36 | Bradipo | If ever I stumble across someone using procmail with a Maildir based system. :-) |
| 16:39.46 | neybar | so if there are no rules in the procmailrc it just gets dumped in the main inbox right? |
| 16:40.01 | Bradipo | Probably not. |
| 16:40.18 | Bradipo | YOu probably have to have a catchall that delivers to ./Maildir/ |
| 16:40.22 | Bradipo | Or something like that. |
| 16:40.32 | Jayce^ | yeah, if it gets through all you filters, it goes to the main box I think |
| 16:40.38 | Bradipo | What main box? |
| 16:40.43 | Bradipo | Remember, procmail uses mbox by default. |
| 16:40.44 | Jayce^ | inbox |
| 16:41.02 | Bradipo | So, if you have a Maildir inbox, then you will have to specify that; my guess anyway. |
| 16:41.04 | Jayce^ | you set DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ and boom |
| 16:41.14 | Bradipo | That works. |
| 16:45.59 | elg | neybar: yes - it goes to the system spool (e.g. /var/mail/fugalh) by default |
| 16:46.11 | elg | if you set $DEFAULT you can change where it goes to if no recipe matches |
| 16:47.13 | elg | Bradipo: i'm not sure, but I think that if your MTA delivers to a Maildir by default procmail will do the same |
| 16:47.46 | Bradipo | I doubt it, how would procmail knwo that your default delivery is Maildir ?\ |
| 16:48.14 | elg | how does it know your mail spool is /var/mail/fugalh or /var/spool/mail/fugalh... |
| 16:49.02 | Bradipo | You tell it. |
| 16:49.23 | Bradipo | In fact, does procmail even use /var/mail or /var/spool/mail ? |
| 16:49.46 | Bradipo | I don't think it does. I think the MTA reads from there, pipes the message through procmail and then deletes it from there. |
| 16:49.56 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.00 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.01 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.01 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.02 | Bradipo | So, unless you have configured procmail to also write email there, it will go in $HOME/mail |
| 16:50.24 | Bradipo | So, the default is /var/mail |
| 16:50.33 | Bradipo | Which won't be a Maildir |
| 16:50.42 | Bradipo | Which comes down to instructing procmail to deliver to a Maildir |
| 16:51.15 | elg | unless the Maildir is /var/mail/fugalh |
| 16:51.24 | Bradipo | True. |
| 16:51.37 | elg | in which case I don't know what it would do. I don't run a mailserver that does that anymore (but one I used to did) |
| 16:51.43 | Bradipo | I guess you could put all the mailboxes under /var/mail |
| 16:52.10 | elg | on my system I have a .procmailrc in /etc/skel that sets DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ |
| 16:52.41 | Bradipo | Is there a system wide procmailrc? |
| 16:52.49 | Bradipo | Like /etc/procmailrc or something. |
| 16:53.07 | elg | not that I know of. would be nice |
| 16:53.09 | Bradipo | maildrop has a system wide filter. |
| 16:53.11 | Bradipo | :-) |
| 16:53.21 | neybar | there is |
| 16:53.47 | elg | indeed. /etc/procmailrc |
| 16:53.50 | elg | i should do that instead. |
| 16:54.25 | neybar | what mail server do you use elg? |
| 16:54.30 | elg | courier |
| 16:54.33 | elg | oops |
| 16:54.35 | elg | that's IMAP |
| 16:54.39 | elg | I use exim for MTA |
| 16:54.48 | Bradipo | Has anyone here ever used courier the MTA? |
| 16:54.56 | neybar | no |
| 16:55.04 | Jayce^ | nope |
| 16:55.12 | Bradipo | I've never used it, although I use all the rest of the courier tools... |
| 16:55.22 | neybar | elg, how do you have exim delivering mail? is it to a mailbox or maildir? |
| 16:55.25 | Bradipo | Courier-IMAP, SqWebMail, maildrop, etc... |
| 16:56.07 | neybar | I'm trying to wrap my head around this and for some reason I am having difficulties... :-) |
| 16:57.12 | Jayce^ | neybar, one thing that i didn't understand until last night.. by using procmail, your MTA isn't actually delivering anymore.. it's just handing off to procmail, which is delivering |
| 16:58.29 | neybar | so there is no need for /var/spool/mail or whatever anymore |
| 16:59.05 | Jayce^ | right |
| 16:59.28 | Jayce^ | although you can have your postfix deliver right to your maildir too (you are still using postfix right?) |
| 16:59.35 | neybar | yes |
| 17:00.07 | neybar | what about virtual users? |
| 17:00.43 | neybar | ex bob@thelances.net is getting redirected to bob@somewhereelse.com |
| 17:01.34 | Jayce^ | well, that doesn't get delivered then, your mta forwards.. |
| 17:01.42 | neybar | ok |
| 17:01.54 | elg | neybar: I just set up procmail so it gets to a maildir for everyone. exim delivers to /var/mail in mbox format, but that never happens. |
| 17:02.38 | Jayce^ | elg, that "To in any form" regex is ^TO: right:? |
| 17:02.55 | elg | ^TO.* hans@fugal.net |
| 17:03.06 | elg | s/\.\* / \.\*/ |
| 17:07.42 | neybar | Jayce^: does the courier package that you just installed let you pop maildirs? |
| 17:08.19 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 17:08.39 | neybar | did you cast the whole courier system or just courier-imap |
| 17:08.40 | Jayce^ | it has a pop3/pop3-ssl server that translates the pop calls to imap apparently |
| 17:08.54 | Jayce^ | courier-imap myself.. |
| 17:10.04 | Jayce^ | neybar, you check out any of those videos? |
| 17:10.10 | neybar | not yet |
| 17:11.01 | neybar | did iMail work ok with ssl? |
| 17:11.10 | Jayce^ | dunno yet.. |
| 17:11.13 | Jayce^ | check 'em out |
| 17:13.08 | levi | By iMail, do you mean the OS X mail app? |
| 17:13.21 | neybar | yes |
| 17:13.34 | levi | I'm pretty sure it works with SSL. |
| 17:13.37 | Jayce^ | yeah, gotta make sure my wife can get her mail |
| 17:13.52 | Jayce^ | it has an option, but I've had mixed success connecting to server's I've set up.. |
| 17:13.58 | levi | Hmm. |
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| 17:31.54 | trune | sco protest - going on here? |
| 17:32.15 | Jayce^ | we did it two weeks ago |
| 17:34.27 | trune | did it work? |
| 17:35.18 | Jayce^ | think so, actually got coverage of our side of the story |
| 17:36.28 | trune | hopefully free linux? yes |
| 17:36.59 | Jayce^ | elg, just tried running fetchmail on my infogenix account, pulled everything down, but then assigned things to msg.cb (and other extension) files.. instead of the directories.. |
| 17:37.06 | Jayce^ | linux is free. |
| 17:37.25 | trune | we tried xenix many years ago and ditched it |
| 17:38.12 | trune | are you in utah ? is it really hot? |
| 17:38.18 | Jayce^ | quite hot |
| 17:38.32 | trune | i got computers in storage there |
| 17:38.38 | trune | salt lake |
| 17:39.18 | trune | i'm in the wet east worrying about my burning up computers |
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| 18:34.52 | elg | hehe |
| 18:34.59 | elg | I'm more worried about me burning up |
| 18:35.13 | elg | Jayce^: that sounds odd |
| 18:36.57 | Jayce^ | looks like I forgot the / after my default box :) |
| 18:37.18 | elg | Jayce^: fetchmail should be delivering to your MTA. I think it can be configured to not do that so maybe that's a default on your setup |
| 18:37.36 | Jayce^ | it is, it was the default that was the problem |
| 18:57.57 | LrnChndlr | so what does TIMTOWTDI mean? |
| 19:29.50 | elg | anyone know of a way to get a definitive list of what keys are bound to what in vim? |
| 19:29.55 | elg | or even the defaults |
| 19:50.20 | neybar | Bradipo: you around/awake? |
| 19:51.49 | Bradipo | Kind of. :-) |
| 19:53.03 | Bradipo | What's up? |
| 19:54.22 | neybar | I just got courier-imap working finally. I can connect to the pop3 service but it isn't letting me authenticate |
| 19:55.32 | Bradipo | Is the authdaemond running? |
| 19:56.39 | neybar | appears to be... I have a few authdaemond.mysql running |
| 19:56.58 | Bradipo | Are you using mysql authenticatoin? |
| 19:57.07 | Bradipo | If not, you'll want to disable it. |
| 19:57.17 | neybar | not that I know of... just user accounts |
| 19:57.24 | neybar | is mysql the default |
| 19:57.27 | neybar | must be... |
| 19:57.30 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 19:57.46 | Bradipo | In /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib there are a number of authdaemon.* |
| 19:57.59 | neybar | if you use that can you get access to a homedir/maildir, or is that mainly for virtual users? |
| 19:58.04 | Bradipo | chmod 644 the ones that you don't want to use. |
| 19:58.20 | Bradipo | That would be mainly for virtual users with authentication coming from mysql. |
| 20:02.02 | neybar | what starts and stops the authdaemon? |
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| 20:05.19 | Bradipo | THere is a script in that same directory. |
| 20:05.27 | Bradipo | authdaemond stop |
| 20:05.55 | Bradipo | authdaemond start |
| 20:06.01 | Bradipo | With proper paths of course. :-) |
| 20:06.47 | neybar | yeah, I found it right after I asked... |
| 20:07.49 | neybar | ok authdaemon.plain is loading, but I am still getting login errors |
| 20:08.24 | neybar | hang on |
| 20:09.04 | neybar | nope |
| 20:14.17 | Bradipo | Got in? |
| 20:14.39 | neybar | not yet |
| 20:14.49 | Bradipo | Do you have a Maildir ? |
| 20:14.49 | neybar | trying to figure out why login is failing |
| 20:15.19 | neybar | yes |
| 20:17.46 | neybar | does courier know to look in $HOME/Maildir automatically? |
| 20:17.56 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 20:19.29 | Bradipo | You might have to strace the imapd. |
| 20:19.32 | Bradipo | See what it's doing. |
| 20:26.32 | neybar | I figured it out. PAM wasn't configured correctly |
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| 20:43.54 | neybar | hello |
| 20:44.29 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 20:44.38 | Bradipo | Pam can be a thorn sometimes. |
| 20:45.13 | neybar | yeah for some reason pop3 was registering as pop-3 and imap was imap2 |
| 20:45.35 | Bradipo | /etc/services maybe? |
| 20:45.39 | neybar | probably |
| 20:45.51 | neybar | I just renamed the files. That worked too |
| 20:46.14 | neybar | so I take it you like sqwebmail? |
| 20:47.02 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 20:47.09 | neybar | what do you like about it? |
| 20:47.14 | Bradipo | Its small, fast and doesn't require IMAP to use. :-) |
| 20:47.23 | Bradipo | Reads the Maildir directly. |
| 20:47.34 | Bradipo | One less layer of software in the way. |
| 20:47.50 | Bradipo | I also donated a little code to it at one point. :-) |
| 20:47.54 | neybar | have you used squirrelmail? |
| 20:47.58 | neybar | so bias? |
| 20:48.04 | neybar | err so no bias? |
| 20:48.08 | Bradipo | I have used squirrelmail. |
| 20:48.19 | neybar | any opinion on that? |
| 20:48.19 | Bradipo | Its pretty nice looking. |
| 20:48.37 | Bradipo | I would use squirrelmail if sqwebmail wasn't an option. |
| 20:48.56 | Bradipo | I hear the new IMP is pretty decent too though. |
| 20:49.19 | Bradipo | I might be biased towards sqwebmail, slightly. |
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| 21:33.42 | emcnabb | has anyone seen brailsford around here recently? |
| 21:44.21 | goozbach | wahoo I got a new access point here at the office. |
| 21:47.39 | emcnabb | nice, what type? |
| 21:48.55 | elg | emcnabb: i seen him earlier today (in person) |
| 21:49.13 | emcnabb | cool |
| 21:49.24 | goozbach | netgear. |
| 21:49.28 | elg | i'll see him tomorrow too ... whatcha need? |
| 21:49.28 | emcnabb | I have something to show him |
| 21:56.59 | emcnabb | http://radio.weblogs.com/0120124/2003/06/22.html |
| 21:57.05 | emcnabb | this is what I wanted to show him |
| 21:57.19 | emcnabb | there is a picture of his family with the following: |
| 21:57.25 | emcnabb | Here is a picture of one group of protesters. Do they look like pirates or commies to you? Or just a nice family that loves Linux enough to join in a show of support for their favorite operating system? |
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| 22:26.17 | harleypig | help 8 Man |
| 22:26.22 | harleypig | help 8 man |
| 22:49.46 | Bradipo | man 8 help |