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| 04:32.59 | Josh222| | wow, i can barely get a word in here |
| 04:33.07 | hans | :) |
| 04:33.17 | hans | wow, someone actually alive on a sunday evening |
| 04:33.31 | Josh222| | i didnt even know this channel existed until today when i noticed it mentioned at the bottom of a mail on the list |
| 04:33.40 | Josh222| | i was hoping it would be more active |
| 04:33.43 | hans | it is during the week |
| 04:34.01 | Josh222| | thats good |
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| 04:34.07 | hans | although we mostly lurk even then (until someone says something interesting) |
| 04:34.13 | Supaplex | something interesting. |
| 04:34.37 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 04:34.39 | hans | Supaplex: you ought to try bashing perl - that always starts a good round of conversation ;-) |
| 04:34.52 | Supaplex | speaking of perl... |
| 04:35.16 | hans | Jayce^: you really there? sorry I forgot to send a blurb before i left for the weekend :( |
| 04:35.23 | Supaplex | how am i suppose to make a .deb (on debian) from dh-make and/or dh-make-perl ? |
| 04:35.31 | hans | i'll have one in your inbox first thing in the morning |
| 04:35.37 | Jayce^ | yeah, I'm back online |
| 04:35.42 | Jayce^ | finally.. |
| 04:35.52 | Supaplex | I found a build directory w/ the debian control etc. but i'm at a loss as to how to make it into a .deb. |
| 04:36.15 | Jayce^ | my mobo was 'having issues'... |
| 04:36.22 | hans | ouch |
| 04:36.27 | Jayce^ | torched 5 different installs the last two weeks.. |
| 04:36.47 | hans | Supaplex: i don't know, but ask me in a week. I'm (hopefully) going to be putting together a package |
| 04:36.51 | Josh222| | i just switched to debian from slackware about a month ago. |
| 04:36.54 | Jayce^ | put every linux filesystem to the test.. nuked them all (except jfs, didn't try that one) |
| 04:37.01 | Supaplex | heh |
| 04:37.07 | Josh222| | i like it but for some reason my DRI performance is only about half of what it was |
| 04:37.10 | Supaplex | Jayce^ icky! |
| 04:37.18 | Jayce^ | very.. |
| 04:37.36 | Jayce^ | so yeah, gimmie that blurb tomorrow, we need to get everybody we can to plug wednesday :) |
| 04:39.10 | Supaplex | @what time? |
| 04:39.17 | Supaplex | and where exactly? |
| 04:39.40 | hans | 7:30 just south of the Scera theater in orem |
| 04:39.48 | hans | (the building next to it on the soutH) |
| 04:39.59 | Supaplex | I work nights. aw well. |
| 04:40.08 | hans | topic: Parting the red sea of emails; taming the deluge. |
| 04:41.36 | Jayce^ | this will be good for me... lost my /home (a couple times actually)... and with it all my email, now I want to set it up right (imap, procmail or other server filter, etc..) |
| 04:43.28 | Jayce^ | well, now that I'm back online... I'm going to bed |
| 04:44.14 | hans | laters |
| 04:51.23 | Josh222| | any of you guys use DRI with a voodoo3 by chance? |
| 04:58.10 | Supaplex | i tossed my voodoo months ago. |
| 04:58.43 | Josh222| | for some reason my glxgears is only half as fast on debian as it was on slack |
| 04:58.51 | Josh222| | i cant figure out why, but it sucks |
| 04:59.39 | Supaplex | beats me. |
| 05:07.40 | Josh222| | me too |
| 05:08.33 | bbeattie_ | *snores of to sleep* |
| 08:38.12 | Supaplex | nite ppl. |
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| 13:01.56 | hans | welcome home, MecworksHome |
| 13:02.06 | MecworksHome | why thank you... |
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| 14:15.27 | rama | greetings |
| 14:15.48 | Mecworks | howdy |
| 14:15.48 | hans | ohio |
| 14:17.42 | rama | any of you guys ever used XParse? |
| 14:18.44 | Mecworks | can't say that I have. |
| 14:21.26 | hans | nope. whatisit? |
| 14:21.32 | rama | I just read about it in Oracle magazine. It's a hacked up, very regex-like query language being standardized by the W3C to parse XML apps just as you would a normal database. |
| 14:21.36 | rama | Very cool... |
| 14:21.58 | hans | how is that different from xpath? |
| 14:22.10 | rama | hans: oops - that's what I meant |
| 14:22.23 | rama | like I said, I just read about it |
| 14:22.25 | hans | ahh. yes, I'm familiar with it but haven't used it in earnest. |
| 14:22.48 | rama | I was just thinking of the uses for that if GEDXML ever goes standard |
| 14:23.12 | hans | you mean michael kay's gedxml? |
| 14:23.22 | hans | or is that gedml? I can't ever keep them all straight |
| 14:23.44 | rama | me neither - the XML standard that the church is semi-working on |
| 14:23.58 | rama | They keep saying they "might" use it |
| 14:24.00 | hans | gedcom6 |
| 14:24.26 | rama | ahhh...so is it official that they will be using XML in the next standard, then? |
| 14:25.00 | hans | yeah. GedML is a transliteration (term used loosely) of GEDCOM and there are parsers that take GEDCOM and generate SAX events - so you can use current GEDCOM as XML if you want. pretty slick |
| 14:25.38 | rama | I need to look more into that. This XPath has really gotten me excited about XML. |
| 14:26.00 | hans | http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/FAQ/frameset_faq.asp?FAQ=faq_gedcom.asp |
| 14:26.28 | hans | that's the link to the gedcom6 beta spec. (the xml versino) |
| 14:27.10 | rama | ahhh...I saw that. I was under the assumption that they still weren't sure if they were going to move that way or not, though. |
| 14:27.24 | hans | don't know what their plans are |
| 14:27.48 | rama | I'll have to ask Dallin and see if I can get some info from him on that. |
| 14:28.54 | rama | The cool thing about this XPath is that you can use it very seamlessly with Databases that will accept and output XML. |
| 14:31.15 | rama | I wonder if Gedcom.pm would even be useful when it becomes standardized, along with GEDCOM6 |
| 14:32.06 | hans | it'll be useful for quite some time yet (until everyone has migrated to the new gedcom standard - if that even happens0 |
| 14:32.44 | hans | plus, an application-aware module for handling the xml still has lots of advantages. using XML makes it easy to parse/understand but the data still has to be managed. |
| 14:33.09 | rama | That's true. |
| 14:40.43 | hans | wow, screen can do multi-user stuff. so I could show a friend how to do something as if he were looking over my shoulder. cool |
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| 15:45.57 | rama | Any of you had any experience with a BigIP load-balancer? |
| 15:48.05 | Jayce^ | not BigIP no.. |
| 15:48.14 | Jayce^ | we have a cisco (but we don't have to manage it |
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| 15:52.26 | rama | I'm just curious if there's any way for Resin to detect when BigIP's persistance fails... |
| 15:52.49 | rama | Both our hosting and development contractors don't seem to know |
| 15:52.55 | Jayce^ | no clue |
| 15:54.11 | rama | We are looking at having Resin's own persistance run as a backup if Cookie and simple-persistance for some reason were both to fail, but I'd rather not leave persistance running under Resin all the time when it's currently running on the BigIP |
| 15:54.25 | rama | I'll have to RTFM, see what I can find |
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| 16:50.59 | hans | well come |
| 16:55.18 | Bradipo | Uh oh, what's up with SA? |
| 16:55.31 | Bradipo | Why does it need defending? |
| 16:56.32 | hans | Bradipo: don't panic. :) In my post about the upcoming meeting (mail filtering) I said we would have an open discussion about spam methods. I told people to come prepared to evangelize their favorite spam filters. |
| 16:57.26 | Bradipo | Sweet. |
| 16:57.29 | Bradipo | When is the next meetin? |
| 16:57.35 | Jayce_laptop | yeah, I really like it, so I'd better get ready to evangelize |
| 16:57.39 | Jayce_laptop | wednesday.. |
| 16:57.51 | Jayce_laptop | should be a topic you really will want to voice your opinion on Bradipo.. |
| 16:58.16 | Bradipo | I personally don't like SA as much as other techniques, but it works. |
| 16:58.31 | Jayce_laptop | yeah, we want to get people to know what's out there.. |
| 16:58.36 | Jayce_laptop | the different styles.. |
| 17:01.53 | levi | Your spam-fu is weak! |
| 17:02.10 | levi | My spamninja style will destroy you! |
| 17:02.34 | Jayce_laptop | lol |
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| 17:05.45 | Bradipo | I have been doing my own type of spam blocking. |
| 17:06.09 | Jayce_laptop | going after them with a deer rifle? |
| 17:06.30 | Bradipo | I already employ numerous prevention mechanisms, however, if a spammer is successful at getting through then I blacklist their name servers. |
| 17:06.44 | Bradipo | The next time they try to send me email it will be delivered to localhost. :-) |
| 17:06.47 | Jayce_laptop | see, you'll have fun giving ideas this week :) |
| 17:07.10 | Bradipo | Yeah, I hate spammers. |
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| 17:10.35 | Bonez39 | hans? are you around? |
| 17:10.52 | Bonez39 | I am moving a couple other directories to my second drive..but I keep runinto into trouble.. |
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| 17:13.34 | Jayce_laptop | he is here.. |
| 17:13.56 | hans | i am |
| 17:20.01 | Bonez39 | I did this : mv /var /var.old , after mkdir /var.old off /... then I went to run level 1, and I run from /var.old ... cp -a * /var to move the directory contents over.... /var is mounted on /dev/hdb6 ... |
| 17:20.25 | Bonez39 | here's what happenes..it bombs out while copying from /var/lib...some postgre.... |
| 17:21.25 | Jayce_laptop | describe bombs out; :) |
| 17:22.01 | hans | Bonez39: are you in single-user mode? You should be to move /var methinks |
| 17:22.05 | Bonez39 | freeze. stop...halt...not working any more... |
| 17:22.28 | Bonez39 | yeah, I am at the maintenance mode...when pc boots it says root pass for maintenance or CTRL D to boot normally... |
| 17:22.33 | Bonez39 | that's where I am running this from |
| 17:23.02 | hans | hm. you have enough space, right? |
| 17:24.36 | Bonez39 | yeah, the new drive..where /var is now the mount point....is a 5.7 gig space..and what I am trying to copy is about 1.6 |
| 17:26.26 | hans | can you find the file it bombed out on? |
| 17:27.01 | Bonez39 | woah, it just stopped again..it stops while copying something from /var/lib/postgres/data/base/1/16680...right there..consistently..it stops every time.. |
| 17:27.05 | Bonez39 | yeah..that's the one.. |
| 17:27.42 | hans | do you use postgres or any program that uses postgres? |
| 17:27.46 | Jayce_laptop | have you fsck'd the drive after the crash? |
| 17:29.38 | Bonez39 | well, yeah, I am trying to use a program call gnumed, which requires lots of postres stuff..but I can do without it if needed... |
| 17:29.43 | Jayce_laptop | that seems wierd if postgres was running at level 1, but that could cause problems |
| 17:29.52 | Bonez39 | jayce..no, I guess I need to that, right? the drive is running ext3... |
| 17:30.06 | Bonez39 | I never had postgres running at level 1 yet.. |
| 17:30.14 | Jayce_laptop | might be a good idea.. but more importantly make sure that nothing accessing the postgres stuff is running when you do the move |
| 17:30.38 | hans | Bonez39: /etc/init.d/postgres stop (or something like that) |
| 17:31.00 | hans | but it doesn't make much sense - don't think postgres could find it in the first place in /var.old/var/... |
| 17:31.53 | Bonez39 | yeah.....postgres would not normally look in /var.old.. that'sjust where the files are untl I can get the contents of that directory, moved over to /var... |
| 17:33.01 | hans | ls -l /var/lib/postgres/data/base/1/16680 |
| 17:33.09 | Bonez39 | ok... |
| 17:33.19 | Bonez39 | I need to reboot it then will run that when it's going again.. |
| 17:34.26 | hans | Jayce_laptop: who sings with andy on Perchance to Dream (loveboat)? |
| 17:35.20 | hans | or is it all him? |
| 17:37.05 | Jayce_laptop | all him in the recording if I remember right.. |
| 17:37.37 | Jayce_laptop | oooh, camouflage has a new album, and it's really good.. so far it's the best one of theirs I've heard. |
| 17:37.49 | Jayce_laptop | got several songs left though |
| 17:38.05 | Bonez39 | hans: the ls -l outputs a listing for a file that is 8192 in size, dated two days ago, when I apt-got those postgres files.. |
| 17:39.44 | Bonez39 | back after lunch... |
| 19:27.10 | rama | cool - This guy reverse-engineered gator's system to figure out who may be competing with your website by posting ads on systems using gator: |
| 19:27.11 | rama | http://grep.law.harvard.edu/comments.pl?sid=1134&cid=688 |
| 19:28.10 | rama | Actually, this whole site is very interesting: |
| 19:28.11 | rama | http://grep.law.harvard.edu |
| 19:28.22 | rama | a law site for geeks |
| 19:29.14 | rama | great place to go for a legal perspective on the SCO battle |
| 19:31.43 | hans | lol. screen's visual bell says "Wuff!! Wuff!!" instead of that annoying flash the whole screen |
| 19:33.59 | Jayce_laptop | yeah.. |
| 19:34.06 | Jayce_laptop | scared me first time I saw that.. |
| 19:34.36 | Jayce_laptop | although I'm not sure that's just screen |
| 19:34.47 | Jayce_laptop | I think smgl has everything set like that.. |
| 19:34.53 | goozbach | my screen flashes. |
| 19:35.59 | hans | ah, it only happens when your terminal doesn't support visual bell |
| 19:36.16 | hans | (when I am ssh'd into qnx this is true) |
| 19:36.40 | hans | wish there was a way to set the visual bell for an xterm or something. I can't stand the whole screen flashing but a simple bell in the corner would be nice |
| 19:39.00 | rama | so, what is this "screen" you guys are talking about - I can't find anything on it on sourceforge |
| 19:39.16 | hans | screen is _awesome_ |
| 19:39.26 | rama | nm - found it on freshmeat |
| 19:39.27 | Bradipo | screen is a terminal multiplexor. |
| 19:39.30 | levi | Yeah, screen rocks. |
| 19:39.37 | Jayce_laptop | screen is 'da bomb' |
| 19:40.13 | levi | When you learn screen-fu, you will be one step closer to the Buddha-nature. Or something zen like that. |
| 19:40.53 | Jayce_laptop | rama, man screen on a linux box.. most should have it already installed |
| 19:42.11 | goozbach | screen is 'da bomb dot com' or OTFH as we say here at midwest. |
| 19:46.56 | Jayce_laptop | basically detachable terminals |
| 19:48.38 | rama | So what's the diff between it and (forgive me, I forgot the technical term) hitting alt-F1,alt-F2, etc. in terminal mode on Linux? |
| 19:48.55 | Jayce_laptop | well, what if you are ssh'd to a server? |
| 19:49.18 | Jayce_laptop | especially if you ssh to a box, want to start a job, then disconnect, but leave it running.. |
| 19:49.29 | Jayce_laptop | then reconnect later, reattach, and still be using it |
| 19:52.12 | rama | ahhh...should have recognized that immediately - that's what I just did. |
| 19:52.22 | rama | That is sweet |
| 19:57.46 | rama | I guess it would only be useful outside of X, because in X you just have to open up another terminal window. |
| 19:58.14 | hans | rama: or over ssh |
| 19:58.20 | hans | or across X sessions |
| 19:59.25 | Jayce_laptop | or on your work box, and you want to attach to it later from home. |
| 19:59.27 | hans | it also happens to be easier to type ^A n ... ^A p than ^Z fg<cr> when in vim |
| 19:59.30 | Jayce_laptop | (say gnut :) ) |
| 20:00.09 | hans | most useful for detaching and reattaching elsewhere, but being able to have several things going on without opening a new ssh session is nice |
| 20:00.14 | rama | oh - okay - I see - makes sense. That would be cool to be able to close it at work and open it from home. |
| 20:00.27 | rama | That could become nirvana in a sense. |
| 20:00.38 | hans | rama: and one of the coolest features is that it will do multi-user |
| 20:00.54 | goozbach | screen is what I use for IRC |
| 20:00.58 | hans | so you and your bud can hook up to the same screen and you can demonstrate how to do that tricky thing |
| 20:01.19 | hans | you can even make it see-only for him |
| 20:01.38 | goozbach | I connect with epic from work. At home I ssh into my screen session and pick up right where I left off. |
| 20:02.28 | hans | only problem with screen is you need to be a bit more conscientious when you go to reboot. :) |
| 20:02.58 | rama | ooo...that is cool. IRC would also be a great use for it. |
| 20:03.12 | hans | i use it for mutella all the time. :) |
| 20:03.14 | rama | Maybe I'll have to invest in a UPS for my home server. |
| 20:03.17 | Bonez39 | back |
| 20:05.37 | Jayce_laptop | heck of a lunch :) |
| 20:06.21 | Bonez39 | yeah..it was helluva lunch..I'd have rather spent it here...than running around.. |
| 20:07.50 | rama | I learned all about screen while you were gone... |
| 20:12.51 | rama | Anyone know why my putty session (yes, on Windows) keeps freezing when I don't use it for awhile on my Linux box at home? |
| 20:13.08 | rama | Is it a setting I need to change in Linux, or is it a Putty problem? |
| 20:13.09 | Jayce_laptop | probably your router.. |
| 20:13.30 | Jayce_laptop | a lot of router's have timout's for connections that they see as 'inactive' |
| 20:13.34 | rama | That could be it - I'm port-forwarding through a netgear router |
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| 20:13.55 | Jayce_laptop | so you can set putty, and some terms to send \000 or something at intervals, and it see's that as activity |
| 20:14.04 | Jayce_laptop | btw, anybody know how to set that in konsole? |
| 20:14.17 | Jayce_laptop | I was actually looking for how to do that on my box just last week |
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| 20:15.39 | hans | rama: there's a keepalive setting in putty - try that. |
| 20:16.12 | rama | hans: just found that - thanks! |
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| 20:17.56 | rama | what's a good terminal-mode irc client? |
| 20:18.05 | hans | irssi |
| 20:21.38 | Jayce_laptop | bitchx |
| 20:21.58 | hans | i prefer irssi to xchat even |
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| 20:23.03 | rama | Jayce^: I'm not allowed to type that... |
| 20:24.16 | Jayce_laptop | hehe |
| 20:24.51 | Jayce_laptop | hrmm.. anybody knwo offhand, can a cronjob pass the current minute value as a parameter to a script? |
| 20:25.07 | Jayce_laptop | cronttab pass it to the cronjob |
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| 20:32.28 | rama_home | cool - irssi |
| 20:33.17 | rama | now I just have to figure out screen so I can go from work to home and always be on |
| 20:33.49 | rama | This is actually much faster and less-resource-intensive than mIRC |
| 20:34.11 | Jayce_laptop | oh yeah |
| 20:35.32 | Supaplex | ok, you'd think installin gcc and kernel-headers, kernel-image etc would allow you to compile something... but my /usr/include is nearly empty (just a few files/directories here.) |
| 20:35.51 | Jayce_laptop | what distro? |
| 20:35.54 | Supaplex | I know deb keeps kernel headers for diff versions in /usr/src/kernel-headers ... |
| 20:35.58 | Supaplex | debian. |
| 20:36.00 | Jayce_laptop | and what are you trying to compile? |
| 20:36.17 | Supaplex | just a dumb single source c file. |
| 20:36.29 | Jayce_laptop | got glibc? |
| 20:36.46 | Jayce_laptop | and -devel type packages (not sure how deb calls those) |
| 20:36.57 | Jayce_laptop | rpms always do that rpm, and rpm-devel.. |
| 20:37.23 | Supaplex | ahh |
| 20:38.13 | rama | crap - now I've got to learn all of the commands that I could just do by clicking before...guess it's all for my own good |
| 20:39.14 | Supaplex | libc6-dev - GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. |
| 20:39.18 | Supaplex | this one? |
| 20:41.29 | brailsmt_ | Supaplex: looks like the right one, smells like the right one, walks like the right one... |
| 20:41.32 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 20:43.41 | Supaplex | I installed it before I got a reply. works to. :) |
| 20:43.51 | rama | hans: how do I get help on irssi while I'm currently in it? |
| 20:43.52 | Supaplex | thanks tho. |
| 20:44.28 | rama | hans: and is there a way to get tab-complete on nicks to work? |
| 20:47.18 | brailsmt_ | rama: /help |
| 20:47.23 | brailsmt_ | then alt-1 |
| 20:47.28 | brailsmt_ | re: help in irssi |
| 20:54.08 | rama | help |
| 20:54.14 | rama | re: help |
| 20:54.27 | rama | just trying something - sorry. |
| 20:54.34 | rama | alt-1 is what I needed. Thanks |
| 20:55.54 | rama | alt-1 isn't working |
| 21:01.34 | rama | weird - it just started working |
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| 21:13.10 | Bonez39 | is hans still around? |
| 21:21.57 | Bonez39 | anyone else.? I moved my /var directory contents and now, my system won't boot up...vim doesn't work. I get error messages from various files in /etc/rc.d |
| 21:23.08 | shadoi | Why did you move /var? |
| 21:23.23 | Bonez39 | shadoi: not enough space on my hdd where debian is installed.. |
| 21:24.39 | shadoi | ah.. hmm.. was /var it's own partition or was it part of /? |
| 21:25.10 | Bonez39 | it was part of / , but I had more than enough space on /dev/hdb6...so here's what I did.. |
| 21:26.05 | Bonez39 | I ran mv /var /var.old, and then ran mkfs.ext3 on /dev/hdb6, mounted as /var.. then I went to /var.old and said cp -a * /var to move the /var contents to /var at its new mount point.. |
| 21:26.24 | Bonez39 | before this, the system booted just fine..now..it refuses to load up, beyond a command prompt. |
| 21:26.43 | Bonez39 | I mean vim , whoami, basic commands don't work... |
| 21:26.55 | Bonez39 | it lets me boot either to user name or to root... |
| 21:27.05 | shadoi | Ah.. you didn't copy permissions, that's why. |
| 21:27.09 | Bonez39 | so I can log in, but normally it will then load up gnome desktop... |
| 21:27.23 | shadoi | "cp -par * /var" should do it. |
| 21:27.28 | Bonez39 | oh, how do I get the permissions copied over..and what SHOULD I have run for the copy? ok.... |
| 21:27.41 | Bonez39 | so if I run cp -par * /var now, from /var.old that should work? |
| 21:27.55 | shadoi | run man cp and verify -p does perms, I'm not on a linux box at the moment. |
| 21:28.16 | Bonez39 | man doesn't even work... |
| 21:28.27 | Bonez39 | I can checp cp --help...and see |
| 21:28.35 | shadoi | yeah |
| 21:29.19 | Bonez39 | well I have to pipe it through MORE..that works...yeah, -p should do it.. |
| 21:29.31 | Bonez39 | so I will try cp -p -v -a * /var |
| 21:29.45 | shadoi | you'll want recursion too |
| 21:29.45 | shadoi | -r |
| 21:29.50 | shadoi | maybe -R |
| 21:29.55 | Bonez39 | I want verbose and want it archived.....I think the -a includes that... |
| 21:30.47 | Bonez39 | ok, running cp again, hoping this revives it... |
| 21:30.51 | shadoi | Just for future reference, I'd use rsync for stuff like this. |
| 21:31.10 | Bonez39 | I'll read up on rsync....once I get past all this. |
| 21:32.10 | Bonez39 | it sounds like it's copying everything over.. |
| 21:33.22 | shadoi | make sure you put an entry in fstab for /var |
| 21:33.47 | goozbach | that should be: |
| 21:34.08 | goozbach | or wahoo! |
| 21:34.12 | Bonez39 | oh, the entries for /etc/fstab were the first changes I made.. |
| 21:34.21 | shadoi | bbl |
| 21:43.07 | Bonez39 | hmmm goozbach...you here a while? |
| 21:43.24 | Bonez39 | or anyone else interested in helping me do CPR on my linux box? |
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| 22:04.08 | shadoi | Bonez39: work? |
| 22:06.10 | Bonez39 | shadoi: yeah, it worked.. |
| 22:06.20 | goozbach | Bonez39: sure |
| 22:06.27 | goozbach | *clear* |
| 22:06.29 | Bonez39 | i had an fstab entry moving my /usr to a different mount point..and that was throwing the system... |
| 22:06.41 | Bonez39 | something so simple.. |
| 22:06.53 | shadoi | hehe |
| 22:07.14 | goozbach | let me read the back logs |
| 22:11.06 | goozbach | ok a cp -a should do all the ownership/permisions/link garbage. |
| 22:11.50 | goozbach | now Bonez39 are you talking about /usr or /var? is it the same problem as above? |
| 22:14.56 | shadoi | ah.. heh.. -a = -dpR |
| 22:16.51 | shadoi | sounds like his problem wasn't with /var, it was with a bad entry he made in fstab for /usr. |
| 22:23.16 | Bonez39 | well, I was talking now about /usr, but it was related to the /var problem.. |
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| 22:23.33 | Bonez39 | I had included changes in /etc/fstab to make mount points for both /usr and /var |
| 22:24.10 | goozbach | rama: what irc client do you use? |
| 22:24.21 | rama | right now I'm using irssi |
| 22:24.42 | goozbach | haven't heard of that one. Is it pretty cool? |
| 22:24.54 | rama | Just started using it today...I like it so far |
| 22:25.08 | rama | It's completely terminal - no X required |
| 22:25.33 | goozbach | kinda like epic I suppose. |
| 22:25.40 | rama | I'm using screen, too, so now I can connect to the same terminal from work |
| 22:26.15 | goozbach | you have an "always on" connection to the internet at home. |
| 22:26.17 | goozbach | ? |
| 22:26.18 | rama | so what is epic? Epic games? Epic entertainment? Google gives me many definitions |
| 22:26.41 | rama | goozbach: well, if you call dsl "always on", yes |
| 22:26.52 | goozbach | epic is an irc client. |
| 22:27.03 | rama | ahhh...I see |
| 22:27.16 | goozbach | scriptable, extensible. pretty cool |
| 22:27.18 | shadoi | epic was the basis for BitchX |
| 22:27.28 | rama | ok |
| 22:27.34 | shadoi | BitchX is basically a fork with loads of features added. |
| 22:27.37 | rama | I am familiar with that one |
| 22:28.15 | rama | brb |
| 22:28.17 | shadoi | I wouldn't doubt it if BitchX has been completely re-written since then though.. |
| 22:28.25 | goozbach | by itself epic isn't much, but you can download a mountain of different scripts that give you some cool features. |
| 22:29.11 | rama | cool - screen rocks! |
| 22:29.52 | rama | goozbach: I'll have to look into epic sometime |
| 22:30.06 | rama | bbl - fhe |
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| 22:50.38 | Bradipo | Any math/gnuplot wizards out there? |
| 23:01.27 | hans | not a wiz, but familiar |
| 23:12.30 | brailsmt_ | here is some great use of exceptions... (as noted in the source) |
| 23:12.42 | brailsmt_ | arghh... |
| 23:14.10 | brailsmt_ | catch :kludge do |
| 23:14.10 | brailsmt_ | (0...ALFAMAX).each { |n| |
| 23:14.10 | brailsmt_ | token.id += ch |
| 23:14.10 | brailsmt_ | throw :kludge unless ch =~ /[a-zA-Z_]/ |
| 23:14.10 | brailsmt_ | } |
| 23:14.13 | brailsmt_ | end |
| 23:14.17 | brailsmt_ | :) |
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