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| 14:29.45 | Bonez39 | greetings |
| 14:37.57 | hans | morning |
| 14:40.18 | levi | Yo. |
| 14:44.13 | Mecworks | akuna matata |
| 15:07.09 | hans | what does it take to get an MSN IM account? <gag> |
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| 15:26.42 | Bonez39 | hans: just a few minutes of your time.... |
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| 15:27.02 | Bonez39 | I have used MSN IM a while..it's ok.but I still prefer IRC..Yahoo IM is a close second for me |
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| 15:33.35 | hans | someone wanted me to get an account for the short term to communicate. I'm still trying to figure out how - and then I need to figure out if it's worth it. |
| 15:33.40 | hans | shoot, Bonez39 |
| 15:36.03 | jayce | an account on what? |
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| 15:38.59 | Bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.29 | hans | msn |
| 15:39.48 | hans | Bonez39: did that and still didn't see it. |
| 15:49.19 | Bonez39 | hmm hold on a minute |
| 15:50.18 | Bonez39 | ok...here's one approach: http://messenger.msn.com ..OR you could just install and run GAIM ..then you can chat with users on AOL, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ and Jabber, and other networks.. |
| 15:50.21 | Bonez39 | all from the same app |
| 15:52.23 | hans | I intend to use gaim, but it's just the making of the account. I'll figure it out later... |
| 15:54.52 | tensai | hans: all you need is a hotmail account. password is the same. that's business with .Net. |
| 15:55.06 | hans | ahh. |
| 15:55.53 | Jayce^ | yeah, you *can* register another address to use it.. but then you open that to their spam.. |
| 15:56.00 | Jayce^ | I just created a hotmail account just for that.. |
| 15:56.17 | Jayce^ | you just have to check your hotmail every 30 days or so.. or it deactivates you |
| 15:57.57 | Bonez39 | here's a question..I downloaded a music swapping app, pyslsk..and it says to check in the applicaiton directory for help files...and yet, the file there is xxxxx.1.gz..do I just run gunzip on it? to open it? |
| 15:59.46 | tensai | Bonez39: man ./xxx.1.gz |
| 16:00.32 | tensai | or dump the file in the man path. man pages are all gzipped, so man knows what to do. |
| 16:00.52 | hans | sweet, i don't even have to discontinue it |
| 16:02.05 | Bonez39 | Tensai...thanks..I figured it out with some hacking. |
| 16:03.54 | hans | great. it crashes gaim |
| 16:04.26 | Bonez39 | gaim is not perfect... |
| 16:04.33 | hans | neither is msn. ;-) |
| 16:04.52 | Bonez39 | but once you have it install right..it does ok..if one is loaded and you then load GAIM..it will close down MSN if that is running on it's own.. |
| 16:05.20 | levi | I love gaim. |
| 16:06.38 | hans | ditto |
| 16:12.12 | hans | foo. so much for msn. |
| 16:15.10 | Jayce^ | what version are you running hans? |
| 16:15.13 | Jayce^ | it runs fine here. |
| 16:17.47 | hans | 0.64 - I just found the diff to fix it |
| 16:17.52 | hans | Jayce^: what's your msn, so I can test |
| 16:18.05 | hans | mine is foo77bar@hotmail.com |
| 16:18.13 | Jayce^ | perlriffic@hotmail.com |
| 16:18.44 | hans | woohoo. crash again |
| 16:18.54 | Jayce^ | yeah, killed me too ?! that's wierd.. |
| 16:19.17 | Jayce^ | on restarting it added you though |
| 16:21.22 | hans | heh, now I can't sign on to AIM for signing/unsigning too frequently. |
| 16:53.10 | Jayce^ | why is it that a given client will always require a merchant account that doesn't have a prebuilt perl module? |
| 17:39.56 | hans | Jayce^: to encourage you to wrte one |
| 17:50.16 | Jayce^ | yeah, doing that.. |
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| 20:30.28 | ramannoodle | nice quote in the Reuters article, Jayce^ |
| 20:33.08 | Jayce^ | danke.. |
| 20:33.24 | ramannoodle | You're famous now |
| 20:35.04 | Jayce^ | hehe.. |
| 20:35.11 | goozbach | nice job |
| 20:37.47 | Bonez39 | Hans did you ever get it working ok? |
| 20:47.27 | ramannoodle | ahhh...one parasiteware site gone from our affiliate program...that always feels good. |
| 20:49.08 | brailsmt_work | where is the reuters article? |
| 20:49.28 | ramannoodle | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&ncid=581&e=1&u=/nm/2 |
| 20:49.28 | ramannoodle | 0030629/tc_nm/tech_sco_dc |
| 20:49.36 | ramannoodle | darn outlook newline |
| 20:49.56 | hans | Bonez39: alas, yes. ;-) |
| 20:49.58 | ramannoodle | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&ncid=581&e=1&u=/nm/20030629/tc_nm/tech_sco_dc |
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| 21:09.50 | ramannoodle | did they ever get that McBride interview digitized? |
| 21:10.04 | Jayce^ | dunno |
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| 21:34.18 | Bonez39 | ok, I guess permissions on it are important too.. |
| 21:35.23 | Bonez39 | the permissions both show my user name...so that means I should be able to write to that file, right? |
| 21:35.28 | Bonez39 | from my windows machine? |
| 21:36.48 | hans | depends on what user you're connected from the windows box as |
| 21:37.42 | Bonez39 | it's odd becuase I can write files to my /tmp directory just fine, |
| 21:38.00 | Bonez39 | permissions for /tmp are root root |
| 21:38.23 | Bonez39 | yet for this other /home/scott/mydata/lytec directory they are scott scott and still...can't write to them |
| 21:38.32 | hans | ls -ld /tmp |
| 21:38.35 | Jayce^ | what are the permissions? |
| 21:38.39 | hans | ls -ld /home/scott/mydata/lytec |
| 21:39.47 | Bonez39 | in here? or just tell you what it says. |
| 21:40.00 | Bonez39 | isn't there a way to run that to output it here? |
| 21:40.07 | Bonez39 | ls -ld /tmp |
| 21:40.35 | Bradipo | If your IRC client has a plugin that allows you to do that, then yse. |
| 21:40.45 | Bonez39 | am running xchat |
| 21:41.05 | Bradipo | If xchat has a plugin that allows you to do that, then yes. |
| 21:51.58 | hans | just cut and paste it |
| 21:52.08 | hans | select with the mouse, then middle-click to paste |
| 22:02.59 | Bonez39 | ah, no middle button..I am hoping soon to get one of those new optical mice.....which will let me cut and paste |
| 22:03.40 | Bradipo | You can emulate a 3 button mouse. |
| 22:03.42 | Jayce^ | if you have 'emulate three buttons' on (probably) |
| 22:03.50 | Jayce^ | then you can just click both buttons at once.. |
| 22:06.01 | Bonez39 | Jayce.her'es waht's weird.. |
| 22:06.37 | Bonez39 | I can copy prior text here and then paste it back with keyboard..CTRL c and v..but if I copy text elsewhere with either keyboard or mouse, I can't paste into Irc. |
| 22:07.32 | Bonez39 | I highlight the text in terminal window with mouse, then hit CTRL C and copy it, but then it will not paste in here..with keyboard. |
| 22:07.38 | Bonez39 | nor with two buttons at once. |
| 22:20.49 | Bonez39 | ls -ld shows /tmp has root root permissions and /home/scott/mydata/lytec has scott scott |
| 22:25.46 | Jayce^ | what about rwx permissions? |
| 22:27.05 | Bonez39 | oh....ok |
| 22:27.33 | Bonez39 | that's the problem..no w permissions...I was talking owners... |
| 22:27.46 | Bonez39 | the write persmission is missing for the /home/scott/mydata/lytec.. |
| 22:27.58 | Bonez39 | is that chmod 666 that directory? |
| 22:29.02 | Bonez39 | oh, it would be chmod 777.. right? |
| 22:48.33 | Jayce^ | 777 would be for everyone.. |
| 22:48.38 | Jayce^ | read write and execute.. |
| 22:48.42 | Jayce^ | what are you trying to do ? |
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| 22:58.21 | Bonez39 | Jayce..want to write to that linux directory from my windows machine.. |
| 22:59.12 | Jayce^ | 777 will let *anyone* write.. but what user/group does the samba run as? |
| 23:13.08 | Bonez39 | Jayce..I dont' want to expose my data in there to problems....I want "scott" to be able to write to it...and root and no one else.. |
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| 23:18.31 | harleypig | Ok, I've finally compiled udf support in, now I can't mount /dev/dvd ... how do I find out what I should point /dev/dvd too? |
| 23:22.18 | Bonez39 | how does one get the cddb to work..with xmms? I can play stuff on there, but for some reason it doesn't go out and grab the song information off the net. |
| 23:23.16 | hans | xmms doesn't do cds very well |
| 23:23.29 | tensai | harleypig: /dev/dvd should symlink to probably /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd, or maybe /dev/scd0. |
| 23:23.41 | tensai | harleypig: are you using scsi emulation? or just straight up IDE? |
| 23:24.40 | Bonez39 | what is better for doing cds..for playback? |
| 23:25.02 | hans | not sure. I don't play cds on the computer much anymore - usually rip what I want to listen to |
| 23:25.15 | hans | hmm. this description of xmms says it should support cddb |
| 23:25.39 | harleypig | ide-scsi |
| 23:25.40 | Bonez39 | ah..using abcde? |
| 23:25.44 | Bonez39 | what's it called? |
| 23:26.11 | Jayce^ | harleypig: probably scd0 |
| 23:26.21 | Jayce^ | devfs? |
| 23:26.49 | harleypig | root@sweetums:~# mount -t udf /dev/scd0 /mnt/dvd |
| 23:26.49 | harleypig | mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device |
| 23:28.08 | Jayce^ | "sweetums".... |
| 23:28.16 | Jayce^ | quickly |
| 23:28.36 | Jayce^ | well, is it a movie dvd? |
| 23:28.58 | harleypig | Yeah, it's Shrek. |
| 23:29.07 | Jayce^ | hehe... it's encrypted :) |
| 23:29.15 | Jayce^ | of course you cant' mount it as such.. |
| 23:29.27 | Jayce^ | you have mplayer? |
| 23:29.37 | Jayce^ | with dvd support? |
| 23:29.45 | harleypig | I can burn a cd using xcdroast, but I can't figure out which device it's using ... I could mount it as an iso9660 just fine. |
| 23:29.46 | harleypig | Yeah. |
| 23:30.07 | Jayce^ | try accessing it in mplayer (using the dvd option, not mounting it) |
| 23:31.37 | harleypig | I get 'Can't open VMG info' |
| 23:31.48 | Jayce^ | I believe mounting a video dvd would be akin to mounting an audio cd.. |
| 23:32.06 | Jayce^ | (people can correct me if they know better) |
| 23:35.13 | Jayce^ | hrmm. my supermount did mount it.. strange.. I can see the vob's.. |
| 23:35.33 | harleypig | I'm recompiling mplayer just to make sure. |
| 23:36.55 | Bonez39 | what is a popular cd player/ripper, other than abcde? and xmms? |
| 23:37.07 | harleypig | cdparanoia |
| 23:38.03 | Jayce^ | try grip... good frontend, and most binaries include the setup stuff that let's you pick the different options you have.. |
| 23:39.27 | Jayce^ | dangit harleypig, just to check for you I threw in Dumb & dumber... now I'm entranced.. |
| 23:43.15 | harleypig | :> |
| 23:43.36 | harleypig | My wife was truly grossed out when the doctor started sucking his finger after the baby bit him. |
| 23:43.44 | harleypig | I fell off my chair laughin. |
| 23:44.13 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 23:44.55 | harleypig | Oh ... wait ... that was Dumb & Dumberer. |
| 23:45.23 | Jayce^ | haven't seen it yet |