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| 02:02.55 | Jayce^ | ok, what's the best way to make a copy of a vcd in linux? disk to disk... |
| 02:07.55 | goozbach | that's a good question. I think disk to disk would work well. |
| 02:10.20 | Jayce^ | yeah, but how.. I can't get any of the gui's to work right.. |
| 02:12.03 | Jayce^ | for some reason, the only ones that seem to let me do it, won't, saying they can't read the disk |
| 02:22.29 | goozbach | have you tried dd? |
| 02:24.57 | Jayce^ | no.. not yet. |
| 02:25.09 | Jayce^ | seems like this should be easier.. |
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| 05:38.59 | linuxalien | Hi! |
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| 13:06.34 | hans | Linux: Consecration; SCO: Litigation |
| 13:06.50 | hans | Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's penguin |
| 13:19.42 | ramannoodle | I find myself doing that sometimes. |
| 13:20.16 | ramannoodle | I had a coworker that had a penguin on his desk. I kind of wanted one myself. |
| 13:20.44 | hans | run over to pittsburgh. you can get ones with 'pittsburgh' on the front in the airport |
| 13:24.17 | ramannoodle | That's just 3 hours from me. I'll have to do that. |
| 13:24.28 | ramannoodle | anyone see this article on /.? |
| 13:24.29 | ramannoodle | http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html |
| 13:24.34 | ramannoodle | funny |
| 13:24.58 | ramannoodle | shows that there's a flaw to Hatch's idea (not to start a political discussion or anything) |
| 13:25.21 | ramannoodle | don't get me wrong - I'm a conservative republican, but I don't like Hatch's way of thinking on some things. |
| 13:25.44 | hans | ditto |
| 13:25.45 | ramannoodle | I don't think he knows enough about computers to be presenting such laws. |
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| 13:34.36 | hans | or not |
| 13:45.01 | ramannoodle | in case anyone wanted to know |
| 13:45.13 | CosmicPenguin | ramannoodle: you going to post the MPEG on your website? |
| 13:45.14 | hans | who gets to watch? |
| 13:45.37 | ramannoodle | which one - the one of my baby? |
| 13:46.06 | CosmicPenguin | ramannoodle: no - the espohogus video? Or is it just stills? |
| 13:46.20 | ramannoodle | ohh...nm - If I get a copy of the video I will. |
| 13:46.20 | CosmicPenguin | You can freely post GIFs now, you know... :) |
| 13:46.37 | ramannoodle | If it's just stills, I'll post it in gif format just in celebration of that. |
| 13:47.24 | ramannoodle | I need to put a wiki on my website so people can make comments, etc. on the pictures I post. |
| 13:48.12 | ramannoodle | CosmicPenguin: the reason I said my baby is my website used to have an MPEG of when my son had just been born. It doesn't anymore, though. |
| 13:48.25 | CosmicPenguin | ramannoodle: ahh... |
| 13:51.46 | ramannoodle | I wonder if they'll let me bring in a video camera and record not only the video screen, but my reactions as well. |
| 13:52.08 | ramannoodle | (they're sedating me) |
| 13:56.57 | hans | ... i wanna be sedated ... |
| 14:01.06 | CosmicPenguin | "Have the Rolling Stones killed..." "But sir, its the Ramones." |
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| 14:09.19 | Mecworks_ | morning |
| 14:19.17 | ramannoodle | morning |
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| 15:39.20 | Bradipo | ramannoodly, use something like ulimit or softlimit to limit how much RAM it can tak eup. |
| 15:40.30 | ramannoodle | that might be what I need. |
| 15:42.28 | CosmicPenguin | THe problem with perl, is thats all hidden from you |
| 15:42.37 | CosmicPenguin | Now, if you wrote it in straight C - you could have much more control |
| 15:46.01 | Bradipo | Well, if you use softlimit, then it doesn't matter because there is no way that perl can get more memory. |
| 15:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | But what happens if it wants it? does it die? |
| 15:46.39 | tensai | but if it can't get more, does it just die? not a great solution for a service |
| 15:46.41 | CosmicPenguin | Or does it recycle? |
| 15:49.26 | CosmicPenguin | Bradipo: did you say ramannoodly? Were you channeling Ned Flanders? |
| 15:50.01 | Bradipo | No, just a typo. :-) |
| 15:50.10 | Bradipo | What is Ned Flanders? |
| 15:50.29 | CosmicPenguin | Bradipo: Don't watch much TV, do you? |
| 15:51.42 | Bradipo | Nope. |
| 15:52.03 | CosmicPenguin | Flanders is Homer Simpson's next door neighbor |
| 15:52.05 | Bradipo | If I do, it's usually CNN or some other news channel. |
| 15:52.22 | Bradipo | Oh, and by the way, I don't care much for the Simpsons. :-) |
| 15:52.32 | Bradipo | Which explains why I didn't know about it... |
| 15:52.33 | CosmicPenguin | He always changes words like that: howdidly doodily |
| 15:52.52 | Bradipo | Ahh, is he the guy that says okely dokely? |
| 15:52.56 | CosmicPenguin | Yep |
| 15:53.00 | ramannoodle | tensai: not sure - haven't had much experience in this arena with Perl yet. I have been able to find a solution for most things so far with Perl, though. I guess if I had to I could embed Perl in C, or just write it all in C (yuck!) |
| 15:53.04 | Bradipo | I had a roommate that would say that all the time. |
| 15:53.33 | CosmicPenguin | Bradipo: that was probably as annoying as the real Flanders |
| 15:53.57 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 15:54.23 | ramannoodle | well, gotta go get a camera stuck down my throat. I'll take pictures! |
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| 16:45.46 | hans | can xmms stream a mod? |
| 16:45.56 | CosmicPenguin | a mod? |
| 16:46.36 | hans | MOD files |
| 16:46.48 | hans | are awsome. (ok, can be awesome in a weird way) |
| 16:46.53 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: MOD files? |
| 16:46.54 | | CosmicPenguin: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 16:47.09 | hans | check out fugal.net:8888/3.mod |
| 16:47.10 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: you tell me, you useless pile of bits |
| 16:47.11 | | i don't know, CosmicPenguin |
| 16:47.28 | hans | xmms can probably play it. looks like it can't stream it though |
| 16:48.57 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, my XMMS was able to play it |
| 16:49.04 | hans | A .MOD file is composed of digitised sound samples, arranged in patterns to create a song. |
| 16:49.19 | hans | ibot, MOD is a file composed of digitised sound samples, arranged in |
| 16:49.20 | | ...but mod is already something else... |
| 16:49.25 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: mod? |
| 16:49.26 | | hmm... mod is simple: lift one pin, cut one trace and add two jumper wires. |
| 16:49.37 | hans | ibot, you're loony |
| 16:49.38 | | hans: are you using Windows? |
| 16:49.44 | CosmicPenguin | Thats for the Webpal I'll bet |
| 16:49.55 | CosmicPenguin | Is ibot learning things on its own again? |
| 16:50.07 | hans | ibot, no mod is a file composed of digitized sound samples, arranged in patterns to create a song. |
| 16:50.08 | | hans: okay |
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| 19:14.17 | synic | hey, when does the protest start? |
| 19:14.26 | Jayce^ | 3 |
| 19:14.37 | Jayce^ | although most will show up at 2:30 at meeting locations.. |
| 19:14.45 | synic | ok. |
| 19:14.46 | synic | thanks |
| 19:15.13 | Jayce^ | you can meet at 2:30 at home depot |
| 19:15.28 | hans | woohoo, sco took down the driving directions from their site |
| 19:15.35 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 19:16.09 | Jayce^ | they put anything in it's place? |
| 19:16.16 | hans | nope. just broken image |
| 19:16.19 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 19:16.38 | Jayce^ | wayback strikes again against sco :) just grab it from there or google cache I bet.. |
| 19:16.41 | hans | too bad this is utah. the address is enough |
| 19:16.50 | synic | who wants to give me a ride from center street in orem ??? |
| 19:17.08 | synic | s/???/?/; |
| 19:17.35 | CosmicPenguin | How big can Lindon be? |
| 19:17.54 | Jayce^ | it's not.. |
| 19:18.10 | Jayce^ | it's just next door to center 7 and comcast and such.. hard to miss |
| 19:18.17 | Jayce^ | or just meet at home depot :) |
| 19:18.19 | CosmicPenguin | Just look for the shadow and the fires of Mount Doom |
| 19:18.21 | hans | heh. they didn't even delete it. just mislinked it. |
| 19:18.23 | hans | http://www.caldera.com/company/directions.jpg |
| 19:21.19 | hans | http://www.caldera.com/company/directions3.jpg |
| 19:22.17 | Jayce^ | dang, and I just posted the previous one to the lists |
| 19:23.16 | hans | so had i :/ |
| 19:23.24 | hans | also did the second |
| 19:23.59 | synic | crap. I dunno if I can get work off to go, for some reason I thought it was next Friday. |
| 19:24.12 | Jayce^ | nope, it's in just a little while.. |
| 19:39.57 | hans | Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's penguin, nor his UNIX, nor his daemon, nor his GNU nor anything that is thy neighbor's. |
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| 20:16.07 | synic | ok, yeah. I can't get off work, so one of you is going to have to be twice as protest-ey for me :) |
| 20:16.51 | hans | what, taking the slash off the original makes it work? so much for conspiracy |
| 20:17.13 | tensai | hans: no, it doesn't. It's the same page. |
| 20:17.20 | hans | it's the same page but the image works |
| 20:17.31 | tensai | didn't for me. maybe they fixed it. |
| 20:17.52 | hans | with the slash, it's still broken for me. the image it wants is http://www.sco.com/company/directions.html/directions.jpg |
| 20:18.03 | hans | the right image is without 'directions.html/' |
| 20:18.17 | tensai | that would make sense. maybe I just didn't wait long enough. |
| 20:18.40 | tensai | need faster internet ... |
| 20:18.44 | hans | heh |
| 20:19.06 | hans | why in the world the trailing slash brought up the page in the first time... i'm not sure |
| 20:19.32 | tensai | could be a content management system like Zope |
| 20:19.37 | hans | hmm. |
| 20:20.39 | hans | actually, it must be the server side |
| 20:20.53 | tensai | right. Zope is server side |
| 20:21.04 | hans | right, but this site isn't zope: |
| 20:21.05 | hans | http://www.qnx.com/developer/docs/momentics621_docs/neutrino/lib_ref/m/msgreply.html/ |
| 20:21.20 | hans | (what was in my web browser) |
| 20:21.27 | hans | adding the trailing slash, it still loads but breaks the images |
| 20:21.37 | hans | when i try on my site, the trailing slash gives a 404 |
| 20:21.50 | hans | so apparently they're not running apache |
| 20:22.21 | tensai | IIS gives a 404 too |
| 20:23.21 | tensai | scratch that. it does. you just have to use a valid page |
| 20:23.27 | hans | heh |
| 20:23.44 | hans | some unix company, uses IIS for its webserver |
| 20:25.38 | synic | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.09 | brailsmt_ | :( |
| 20:26.13 | brailsmt_ | but my kids are coming |
| 20:26.15 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 20:27.35 | brailsmt_ | i will bring on piece of left over cardboard and what's left of my marker... |
| 20:27.40 | brailsmt_ | s/on/one |
| 20:28.56 | brailsmt_ | i wanted something a little more humourous or more of an 'insider' thing, but my wife pointed out that anyone watching the news won't get "Leave my Software Bicycle alone" |
| 20:29.29 | tensai | brailsmt_: she's right, but I laughed |
| 20:48.09 | Mecworks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.28 | Mecworks_ | how is 'it'? |
| 20:59.37 | Mecworks_ | what, no logbot? we need the play-by-play recorded... |
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| 21:01.12 | ramannoodle | So, has the protest started yet??? |
| 21:02.14 | Mecworks_ | should we protest here too? Since we can't be there in person..."Hell no, we wont SCO, Hell no, we wont SCO!" ... repeat ... |
| 21:02.33 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: SCO? |
| 21:02.34 | | extra, extra, read all about it, sco is UNIX(tm), yup. really! they bought the trademark, so it must be. |
| 21:02.37 | ramannoodle | hehehe...that's not one I thought of yet |
| 21:03.14 | ramannoodle | is Bradipo lurking? |
| 21:03.28 | ramannoodle | Just wondering if he could see them from his window or anything. |
| 21:03.43 | Mecworks_ | He's probably looking out the window... 8^) |
| 21:13.18 | Mecworks_ | Aparently there's a guy in a penguin suit there |
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| 21:19.07 | harleypig | Anybody wireless and there? |
| 21:19.22 | harleypig | I mean on location? |
| 21:21.45 | Mecworks_ | I asked before but no one said they were. THere are some near by with cameras |
| 21:23.49 | harleypig | any media there yet? |
| 21:24.09 | Mecworks_ | havn't heard |
| 21:55.12 | Mecworks_ | ive heard there are about 30 or so people there right now |
| 21:59.15 | harleypig | Not bad. |
| 22:10.12 | Mecworks_ | Oh, and one penguine |
| 22:10.40 | harleypig | mmmkay. Someone in a penguin suit? That may or may not work. :/ |
| 22:12.37 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 22:12.49 | Bradipo | There is a 11 year old kid in a penguin suit. |
| 22:12.53 | Bradipo | Maybe 10. |
| 22:13.13 | Bradipo | Poor guy, in this weather he's likely to suffer heat stroke or something similar. |
| 22:13.39 | harleypig | Oh. Then that would be ok, visually ... but, yeah ... I hope they've got a long straw. |
| 22:14.09 | Bradipo | Me too. |
| 22:19.52 | harleypig | You forgot the aol tags. |
| 22:20.04 | harleypig | Sorry. Working on my 50th hour awake. |
| 22:22.06 | Mecworks_ | An on-looker says a 23yr old girl has passed out while protesting. |
| 22:23.10 | harleypig | Oops. |
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| 22:34.57 | Bonez39 | synic..or anyone..how do I get aptitude to purge something..that I have selected for deletion? |
| 22:35.24 | synic | what's aptitude? |
| 22:35.55 | synic | if it's the same as evolution, you press CTRL+E |
| 22:36.04 | synic | (that is if you mean purge an email account) |
| 22:44.16 | Bonez39 | aptitude is an installation tool in debian |
| 22:45.34 | synic | oh, never used debian |
| 22:50.16 | tensai | Bonez39: aptitude purge <package-name>? |
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| 22:58.15 | Bonez39 | tensai..ok..thanks. |
| 22:58.44 | ramannoodle | so who were the anti-SCO's at the protest? were they SCO employees or just general, jealous Linux haters? |
| 22:59.12 | Bradipo | The ``anti-SCO'' ? |
| 22:59.20 | Bradipo | Weren't all the protesters anti-SCO? |
| 22:59.24 | ramannoodle | sorry - the pro-SCO |
| 22:59.30 | Bradipo | Ahh... |
| 22:59.31 | ramannoodle | s/anti-SCO/pro-SCO/ |
| 23:00.05 | ramannoodle | so, Bradipo: can you see them from your window? |
| 23:00.10 | Bradipo | I could. |
| 23:00.12 | Bradipo | It's all over now. |
| 23:00.17 | Bradipo | Well, not from my window. |
| 23:00.23 | Bradipo | From the break area windo. |
| 23:00.44 | ramannoodle | Anyone get arrested, or any trouble with the police? |
| 23:00.57 | Bradipo | No, it was pretty mellow. |
| 23:01.08 | ramannoodle | well that's good. |
| 23:01.11 | Bradipo | I imagine a lot of people out there had never really protested before. |
| 23:01.29 | ramannoodle | I imagine so. |
| 23:01.31 | Bradipo | It's not like union members of the steel industry. |
| 23:01.41 | Bradipo | Hardened union workers... |
| 23:01.51 | Bradipo | With plenty of protesting experience. |
| 23:02.33 | Bradipo | I heard that Ralph Yarro was out there holding a pro-SCO sign. |
| 23:02.33 | ramannoodle | Yeah, most people there were probably used to sitting in a corner in a dark room programming all day. |
| 23:02.47 | ramannoodle | Who's Ralph Yarro, may I ask? |
| 23:03.29 | Bradipo | http://www.canopy.com/aboutus/ryarro.htm |
| 23:03.58 | ramannoodle | ohhh...wasn't he in that Forbes article? |
| 23:04.02 | Bradipo | He's only the CEO of the Canopy group... |
| 23:04.43 | ramannoodle | okay...I wonder if my brother-in-law works for them. |
| 23:04.48 | Bradipo | For Canopy? |
| 23:04.57 | Bradipo | Who is your brother-in-law? |
| 23:05.00 | ramannoodle | He just got a job with some large Venture Capital firm in Utah. |
| 23:05.06 | ramannoodle | Jonathan Day |
| 23:05.22 | Bradipo | Hmm, the name sounds familiar. |
| 23:05.25 | Bradipo | But I don't know him. |
| 23:05.26 | ramannoodle | He used to be a consultant for Monitor |
| 23:05.43 | ramannoodle | All I know is he's good at what he does and makes a lot of money doing it. |
| 23:06.17 | Bradipo | Cool. |
