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| 00:21.04 | goozbach | from the files of stupid utahn tricks: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/17/220228 |
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| 01:11.20 | CosmicPenguin | He's just angry that people aren't pirating *his* songs |
| 01:13.46 | goozbach | ohh... that's right he a decomposer.... * I mean a composer * |
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| 13:28.06 | hans | morning pig |
| 13:28.12 | harleypig | morning |
| 13:53.08 | harleypig | Well, off to school! |
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| 16:43.36 | hans | brailsmt: 'sup? |
| 17:06.37 | brailsmt | hans: not much, I have been working on ading ruby scripting support to the wm I have been working on :) |
| 17:06.54 | Jayce^ | still working on that? thought you'd be done by now :D |
| 17:06.57 | brailsmt | it works too, now I just need to get all the ruby config files in place |
| 17:07.22 | brailsmt | Jayce^: I am also doing school at the same time ;) |
| 17:07.33 | brailsmt | and learning how to use swig |
| 17:09.01 | hans | lol |
| 17:09.07 | hans | swig is cool |
| 17:09.11 | hans | from what I've seen. |
| 17:09.18 | brailsmt | yeah it is |
| 17:11.12 | brailsmt | well being that swig autogenerated 180 classes, 1551 methods, and 482 constants definitions that can be used from ruby, I am convinced swig is *awesome* |
| 17:11.15 | brailsmt | :) |
| 17:11.31 | Jayce^ | yeah, does the same from perl.. |
| 17:11.52 | brailsmt | and the more i use ruby's extension api, the more i like it |
| 17:12.21 | brailsmt | i have had the chance to compare it with python's extension api, and ruby's is much more terse and understandable |
| 17:17.01 | Jayce^ | I haven't tried either of those ones. |
| 17:17.56 | brailsmt | though python's extension api is tailored to C++, ruby's is tailored to C, but that isn't that big a deal (to me) |
| 17:19.18 | Bradipo | So, how big is this SCO picketing really going to be? |
| 17:19.28 | Bradipo | Are we going to see some serious action, or is it all a dud? |
| 17:23.49 | Jayce^ | dunno.. |
| 17:24.01 | Jayce^ | I'm planning on going.. voice my opinion... |
| 17:24.12 | Jayce^ | probably wont' see too many people... most have to work.. |
| 17:24.49 | CosmicPenguin | I'll come down if its well organized |
| 17:25.07 | CosmicPenguin | No good protesting if we don't have a permit, and none of the media show up |
| 17:25.26 | brailsmt | i will be there for at least some of the time |
| 17:25.28 | CosmicPenguin | Not like Darl is going to look out the window and have an epipany on the spot... :) |
| 17:32.23 | Jayce^ | we've got the permit.. |
| 17:32.32 | Jayce^ | and getting the media supposedly |
| 17:33.34 | CosmicPenguin | Jayce^: is there a URL getting set up, or is it all pretty much word of mouth? |
| 17:43.16 | Jayce^ | word of mouth ATM.. |
| 17:43.29 | Jayce^ | I think there will be something soon.. evan and soren are kinda running that.. |
| 17:45.23 | CosmicPenguin | Keep us SLLUGers informed too... I'll make the drive into mord^H^H^H provo... :) |
| 17:50.15 | hans | lol |
| 17:50.31 | hans | keep us disconnected folk up-to-date too (says the man without email ATM) |
| 17:51.22 | Jayce^ | no email?? |
| 17:51.31 | Jayce^ | lindon, at 3 .. be there. |
| 17:51.44 | hans | server troubles coinciding with car troubles... |
| 17:52.46 | Jayce^ | umm, how do those two happen together? |
| 17:53.23 | hans | the winds of fate are against me this week |
| 17:53.52 | hans | lol. that would be bad |
| 17:54.37 | hans | saturday take our other car to be fixed after a year of sitting. monday morning car being used dies, and coincidentally so does my mail server |
| 17:54.49 | hans | car in shop ends up being twice what we budgeted |
| 17:55.13 | hans | with still more work in the near future. but recently-defunct car would be even more work to fix |
| 17:55.13 | Jayce^ | ouch |
| 17:56.03 | hans | so getting over to where the server is to check on it hasn't happened yet. they had power problems - it's probably just waiting for user interaction at boot. but with my luck the HDD is probably hosed or something. |
| 17:56.14 | Jayce^ | d'oh |
| 17:56.50 | hans | at least this car has air conditioning. :) |
| 17:59.17 | Jayce^ | I gotta take my wife's car in.. needs some electrical work now.. |
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| 19:46.39 | ramannoodle | http://www.forbes.com/2003/06/18/cz_dl_0618linux.html?partner=yahoo&referrer= |
| 19:46.45 | ramannoodle | interesting read on SCO... |
| 19:47.31 | ramannoodle | The thing I still don't get from the article is that despite the fact that SCO has been successful in suing people, the article doesn't even mention how they think SCO is going to accomplish it. |
| 19:48.21 | ramannoodle | What wins a case is the facts (or the misconstruing of them), and the technical facts, which most business people don't understand is that SCO doesn't own that code. |
| 19:51.58 | brailsmt_ | who does? |
| 19:55.44 | ramannoodle | Hehe...That's the question... |
| 19:56.19 | ramannoodle | If there actually is UNIX proprietary code in there, then it appears, according to Novell, that Novell owns the code. |
| 19:57.47 | ramannoodle | I don't even think there is anything proprietary in there. If that's the case, then the people of the world own the code - there are no true owners under the GPL. |
| 19:59.06 | Jayce^ | sure there is an owner.. they just explicitely allow others to play with it.. that's the key |
| 19:59.27 | ramannoodle | That's a good way of putting it. |
| 19:59.32 | CosmicPenguin | Its all the Steven's book man.... :) |
| 19:59.52 | CosmicPenguin | Between that and the Dinosaur book, theres your Unix... |
| 19:59.57 | ramannoodle | And in related news... |
| 20:00.00 | ramannoodle | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&ncid=581&e=3&u=/nm/20030618/tc_nm/tech_linux_dc |
| 20:00.00 | brailsmt_ | Novell backed way off after SCO produced the amendent to the original contract |
| 20:00.24 | Jayce^ | of course, they mentioned that they didn't have any copies of that ammendment themselves.. |
| 20:00.53 | ramannoodle | I never saw what happened of that. Is Novell still claiming to own the code? Or have they stopped even trying? |
| 20:01.16 | CosmicPenguin | We're not entirely sure what went on behind the scenes there... after all, Novell is ramping up Linux production |
| 20:01.17 | brailsmt_ | ramannoodle: they were basically embarrased... |
| 20:01.20 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe they decided to clam up and wait |
| 20:01.26 | Jayce^ | no idea... probably discussing stuff off press releases.. |
| 20:01.53 | Jayce^ | dont' forget, many people own both novell and canopy/scox stock, so they might be trying to influence things. |
| 20:02.12 | ramannoodle | It will be very interesting to to see what happens from the trial... |
| 20:02.31 | ramannoodle | Jayce^: good point. |
| 20:02.54 | ramannoodle | It's all a conspiracy. |
| 20:03.17 | ramannoodle | Those Mormon business people! |
| 20:54.40 | brailsmt | its been always burning, since the worlds been turning... |
| 20:54.44 | brailsmt | :) |
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| 22:59.47 | hans | how do I make use of the description field in an apache file listing? |
| 23:04.57 | Jayce^ | define 'make use' |
| 23:09.30 | hans | the right-hand column of, say, http://phantom.byu.edu/~fugalh/palmcard |
| 23:16.24 | Jayce^ | http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/10825_1131431_2 |
| 23:16.29 | Jayce^ | that I think shows you how |
| 23:17.46 | hans | http://phantom.byu.edu/~fugalh/palmcard/ |
| 23:17.56 | hans | i think I found the same article in google. |
| 23:17.59 | hans | works |
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