| 00:13.39 | levi | compiling everything sure does take a while. |
| 00:25.40 | brailsmt | levi: whiner... |
| 00:25.48 | brailsmt | try gentoo on this 300MHz box... |
| 00:25.52 | brailsmt | :p |
| 00:26.03 | levi | No thank you. |
| 00:26.18 | levi | I could have installed Debian 20 times by now. |
| 00:26.32 | levi | This had better be the best freakin' linux distro ever! |
| 00:26.33 | brailsmt | i have distcc setup though, it uses my 1.4GHz laptop as well... |
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| 01:48.19 | hans | lol |
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| 02:41.58 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:45.49 | hans | :) took 12 minutes. most of that was mysql time. i could probably optimize a little better but it's a build-time activity not a user activity |
| 02:46.07 | hans | not even build-time really, more like configure-time |
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| 04:16.22 | statik | Someone want to help me with my gentoo problem? |
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| 12:57.18 | hans | :) |
| 12:57.20 | hans | "My husband thinks it's the most moronic sport ever," said Nola Cutts, co-chairwoman of the state Geocaching Association, who goes geocaching with her children twice a week. "But he's into fly fishing, so I guess we all have our own moronic sports." |
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| 14:04.23 | Mecworks_ | hola TimRiker |
| 15:03.38 | Mecworks_ | So, it seems that SCO had to close it's German office and web site due to the injunction against them by LinuxTag |
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| 16:09.35 | Mecworks_ | Hey Bradipo. Stocks up today. Anything happening? |
| 16:15.31 | Bradipo | Not that I know of. |
| 16:15.38 | Bradipo | Just day traders having their fun probably. |
| 16:15.49 | Mecworks_ | probably |
| 16:42.35 | tensai | I'm having DNS problems at my web hosting company. Anybody got a minute to help? |
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| 16:53.19 | Bradipo | tensai: What are the problems? |
| 16:55.08 | tensai | Bradipo: all email originating from off our system is being returned undeliverable |
| 16:55.18 | tensai | Bradipo: nobody can find our MX |
| 17:00.04 | Bradipo | What's your domain? |
| 17:00.11 | tensai | linxtechnologies.com |
| 17:01.25 | Bradipo | Let me see what we have here... |
| 17:03.11 | Bradipo | Wow, you could have some serious DNS problems... |
| 17:03.40 | Bradipo | Checking again. |
| 17:05.17 | Bradipo | Or, I could have just made a typo. :-) |
| 17:05.42 | tensai | I suspect the serious problem |
| 17:06.26 | tensai | I've got their tech support in a chat and he just admitted the problem exists |
| 17:06.46 | tensai | that's hard to get out of tech support :) |
| 17:09.01 | Bradipo | Looks good here. |
| 17:09.07 | Bradipo | Nothing wrong with your domain. |
| 17:10.23 | Bradipo | So the problem looks like it might be on their side. |
| 17:11.08 | Bradipo | The MX looks fine from here. |
| 17:11.16 | tensai | I'm getting errors from a *lot* of places |
| 17:11.20 | Bradipo | So you are actually having problems with outgoing email right? |
| 17:11.33 | Bradipo | Do you have a terse bounce message? |
| 17:11.33 | tensai | outgoing is fine. incoming is broken. |
| 17:11.38 | Bradipo | Incoming is broken eh? |
| 17:11.43 | tensai | people are calling and faxing to tell us it's broken |
| 17:11.47 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 17:12.06 | Bradipo | Ahh, here is the problem. |
| 17:12.06 | tensai | and I've confirmed with my external accounts (Yahoo, Hotmail) |
| 17:12.12 | Bradipo | Your MX is: mail3.worldispnetwork.com |
| 17:12.39 | Bradipo | The problem is that mail3.worldispnetwork.com doesn't resolve. |
| 17:12.47 | Bradipo | So you have an MX that can be looked up, but not the host. |
| 17:12.50 | tensai | that would be a problem |
| 17:12.52 | tensai | ah |
| 17:12.56 | Bradipo | So, people know to deliver it to mail3.worldispnetwork.com, but can't find it. |
| 17:14.01 | Bradipo | All DNS servers say that mail3.worldispnetwork.com does not exist. |
| 17:14.15 | Bradipo | Big problem. |
| 17:15.22 | tensai | so when they get mail3.worldispnetwork.com to resolve, how long until everybody can resolve it? |
| 17:16.03 | Bradipo | Well, maybe 10--20 minutes. |
| 17:16.18 | tensai | that's better than 24-72 hours |
| 17:16.33 | Mecworks_ | Bradipo: I think SCO should switch all their internal servers to UnixWare... 8^) It's the same as Linux and just as usable... 8^) |
| 17:16.48 | Bradipo | Well, that's assuming that all the authoritative NS servers are updated in a prompt fashion. |
| 17:16.49 | tensai | do dns servers wouldn't cache a missing A record? |
| 17:16.55 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 17:17.03 | Bradipo | They cache NXDOMAIN for 5--20 minutes. |
| 17:17.06 | Bradipo | That's what I was saying. |
| 17:17.25 | Bradipo | Right now DNS is returning NXDOMAIN and a cache will cache thta for a while. |
| 17:17.33 | Bradipo | It could also depend on your TTLs... |
| 17:19.10 | tensai | ok. make sense. |
| 17:20.53 | Bradipo | Oh suck. |
| 17:21.07 | Bradipo | Your DNS is set to have a negative caching TTL of 24 hours. |
| 17:21.30 | Bradipo | So it could be up to 24 hours. |
| 17:21.51 | tensai | $EXPLITIVE |
| 17:24.33 | Bradipo | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2308.html |
| 17:28.23 | Bradipo | Your hosting site should read that. |
| 17:28.44 | Bradipo | They recommend a SOA mininum TTL of 1--3 hours, and definitely not 24. |
| 17:40.18 | hans | Bradipo: does that link give reasonable settings for all of those numbers? I've always wondered what would be good settings |
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| 18:18.45 | hans | :( |
| 18:19.34 | brailsmt_ | unless someone knows to solder an ac adapter back on... |
| 18:19.53 | brailsmt_ | s/solder/somehow fix in place... |
| 18:20.11 | brailsmt_ | at least it is under warranty... |
| 18:47.07 | tensai | mail is starting to trickle back in |
| 18:47.15 | tensai | if anybody was curious |
| 18:47.59 | tensai | turns out "our service domain was somehow?removed from the root dns server" |
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| 20:19.52 | Bradipo | Somehow removed eh tensai... |
| 20:20.10 | Bradipo | I would get some remuneration from your hosting company. |
| 20:20.27 | Bradipo | Those kinds of anomalies are not acceptable. |
| 20:20.35 | Bradipo | They are the kind that make email bounce. |
| 20:20.50 | Bradipo | Now, if their DNS servers go down, at least email won't bounce because of it---it will just queue up. |
| 20:39.22 | hans_ | the scores are in for a minimalistic echo. qnx generates an 802.3 packet and sends it out, linux (using a PF_PACKET socket, ignoring tcp/ip altogether) echoes back and qnx displays the timing information. Time spent in my qnx code: abt 35us. Time spent total: abt 680-700us. |
| 20:40.12 | hans_ | I was doing a similar thing with a special i/o board (rabbit) the other day, we were getting just under 100us |
| 20:40.16 | hans_ | RTT |
| 20:40.42 | hans_ | (qnx and rabbit) |
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| 23:39.52 | Bonez39 | is the SCO suit open for discussion here? |
| 23:40.04 | Bonez39 | I am just trying to understand it .. |
| 23:46.47 | levi | It's been discussed before. Dunno if anyone who has a clue about it is awake, though. :) |
| 23:50.28 | Bonez39 | ah.... |
| 23:50.34 | Bonez39 | it's baffling to me... |
| 23:54.53 | levi | Yeah, it's odd. |
| 23:59.46 | Bonez39 | I just think..if MS or SCO wants to shut down linux...the many able bodied developers would just code the lines that are in dispute....by SCO, realease them to the net..as a new kernel....and then everyone could build a new kernel that's SCO-free.. |
| 23:59.56 | Bonez39 | maybe it all doesn't happen that simply..... |