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| 00:05.56 | hans | look what the cat dragged in. ;-) |
| 00:06.32 | kryptik` | ? |
| 00:06.51 | hans | you - long time no i are see |
| 00:07.45 | kryptik` | Ahh. Yeah, I have been packing/unpacking. |
| 00:07.56 | kryptik` | It has taken a week to unpack. |
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| 00:35.53 | kryptik` | Howdy |
| 00:36.44 | brailsmt | howdy... |
| 00:37.12 | brailsmt | http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030519-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect2 |
| 00:37.52 | synic | gentoo games :) |
| 00:37.54 | hans | you're quite excited about that, aren't you. ;-) |
| 00:37.56 | synic | that's awesome. |
| 00:38.00 | hans | looks cool |
| 00:38.03 | kryptik` | That is awesome |
| 00:38.10 | brailsmt | yes very excited... |
| 00:38.33 | brailsmt | if companies make games that will run on that CD, then they will also run on linux... |
| 00:38.49 | brailsmt | ...and not windows... :) |
| 00:39.20 | brailsmt | it offers a platform on which to develop games that does not rely on the OS... |
| 00:39.36 | hans | brailsmt: did you know XSLT is based on the functional programming paradigm? |
| 00:39.42 | brailsmt | or more correctly that hides the OS reliance |
| 00:39.51 | brailsmt | hans: no |
| 00:40.01 | kryptik` | Did you guys here about those new disposable rental dvd's that disney will start to rent out. They have some chemical on them that will corrupt the information on the dvd, so that you dont have to return it. |
| 00:40.20 | brailsmt | kryptik`: how is that different than divx? |
| 00:40.21 | kryptik` | Google IT news for more info. |
| 00:40.31 | kryptik` | Divx does that? |
| 00:40.36 | brailsmt | sort of... |
| 00:40.47 | kryptik` | Hmm... |
| 00:40.49 | brailsmt | it only allows you to view the dvd for a certain amount of time... |
| 00:41.01 | brailsmt | though it is not chemical... |
| 00:41.24 | kryptik` | Hmm. Well this will be chemical |
| 00:42.03 | brailsmt | I would love to Blizzard's next game written for the GameCD... :) |
| 00:42.10 | brailsmt | love to see, that is... |
| 00:43.02 | brailsmt | i bet it makes good use of ram disks... :) |
| 00:43.14 | brailsmt | the gamecd that it... |
| 00:44.25 | brailsmt | anyone have a scanner, or know where I could (free/cheap) access to one? (kinko's doesn't count) |
| 00:44.59 | hans | i have one |
| 00:45.06 | brailsmt | i have a few pictures to scan so I can post on my (nonexistant) website... |
| 00:45.29 | brailsmt | it was existent, until i erased what I thought was a symlink... :( |
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| 06:05.34 | statik | Hows everyone doing tonight? |
| 06:12.29 | statik | That good, eh? |
| 06:20.56 | statik | Why do people time out when I say something? |
| 06:21.00 | statik | :) |
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| 06:23.34 | statik | Hey. |
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| 06:26.55 | HarleyPig | YEEEEHAW! |
| 06:27.30 | statik | Hehe. |
| 06:27.37 | statik | How is HarleyPig tonight? |
| 06:28.05 | statik | Oh!? Downtime? |
| 06:28.12 | HarleyPig | 6 weeks |
| 06:29.20 | statik | Ouch. |
| 06:29.28 | statik | What was the problem? |
| 06:30.41 | HarleyPig | Moved. Took QWest this long to decide that we had dsl capability. |
| 06:30.54 | HarleyPig | Moved one freakin' block. |
| 06:31.41 | statik | Hehe, good old qwest. |
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| 06:32.56 | Jayce^ | HarleyPig!!!!! |
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| 06:33.49 | statik | HarleyPig: Well its good to have you back. |
| 06:34.31 | Jayce^ | wb fartknocker.. |
| 06:34.45 | statik | Heh.. |
| 06:34.57 | synic | shouldn't you all be about to go to sleep? |
| 06:35.16 | HarleyPig | Yeah ... but I'm too excited about having my fix. |
| 06:35.20 | Jayce^ | actually, I was thinking about it.. make it an early night.. |
| 06:35.25 | statik | I am 16, no school, no job.. so uh, no. I shouldnt be in bet till tommorow morning. |
| 06:35.32 | HarleyPig | And I've got to be up in about 5 hours. |
| 06:35.36 | synic | hehe :() |
| 06:35.38 | Jayce^ | HarleyPig: get on gaim |
| 06:35.41 | synic | any of you freebsd users? |
| 06:35.47 | HarleyPig | Oh yeah. Forgot about that. |
| 06:35.49 | Jayce^ | not for a little while.. |
| 06:36.13 | HarleyPig | Jayce^: Do you still follow sourcemage? |
| 06:36.18 | Jayce^ | of course.. |
| 06:36.21 | statik | Heh.. |
| 06:36.31 | statik | Thats like asking gates if he's still interested in money. |
| 06:36.41 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 06:36.48 | HarleyPig | :> |
| 06:40.04 | statik | Man, it must be so cool to be a core developer for a linux distro. |
| 06:45.02 | HarleyPig | Why? |
| 06:46.00 | statik | I dont know.. just the thought of being part of something like that. |
| 06:46.10 | Jayce^ | so, join up with one, and have fun |
| 06:46.49 | statik | Heh, I dont have the skills. |
| 06:47.01 | Jayce^ | so, learn by practicing.. only way to get them |
| 06:47.25 | Jayce^ | later folks.. |
| 06:47.27 | statik | Yeah.. gnight. |
| 07:45.53 | statik | nmap -vv -sP 192.168.0.0/16 | more |
| 07:45.58 | statik | I love that command... |
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| 08:45.59 | statik | Your back. |
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| 16:59.29 | Mecworks | how'zit? |
| 16:59.57 | Mecworks | ibot: convert 5280 feet to bareycorns |
| 17:00.19 | Mecworks | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.26 | Mecworks | thanks |
| 17:01.04 | Mecworks | ibot: Thanks |
| 17:01.04 | | pas de quoi, Mecworks |
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| 17:01.38 | Bradipo | That's a lot of barleycorns |
| 17:01.43 | Mecworks | So, SLLUG meeting tonight. TimRiker, you going? 8^) Need a ride? ha ha ha |
| 17:01.47 | Mecworks | Yes it is... |
| 17:02.48 | Mecworks | ibot: convert pounds per foot to kilograms per barleycorn |
| 17:02.49 | Bradipo | What's the topic? |
| 17:03.00 | Mecworks | BSD installation |
| 17:12.05 | synic | where is the meeting? |
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| 18:38.54 | synic | bleh @ FreeBSD for now. It's starting to make me angry. |
| 18:42.43 | Jayce^ | heh.. |
| 18:43.12 | synic | Gentoo baby :) |
| 18:43.23 | Jayce^ | sourcemage |
| 18:44.11 | synic | is that sourceror? or ... |
| 18:44.20 | synic | were you that guy at the installfest that was talking about sourceror? |
| 18:44.31 | Jayce^ | yup.. |
| 18:44.37 | Jayce^ | sourcemage.org |
| 18:52.16 | Jayce^ | ufed? |
| 18:52.19 | synic | what's ufed? |
| 18:52.30 | brailsmt | Use Flag EDitor |
| 18:52.40 | brailsmt | for us gentoo types ;) |
| 18:52.50 | hans | you edit flags? |
| 18:53.06 | synic | why would you need that? |
| 18:53.17 | brailsmt | yeah, to customize settings for pkgs... |
| 18:53.35 | synic | hrmm |
| 18:53.57 | brailsmt | ie, there is a USE flag for ruby to compile ruby support into any application that supports it... |
| 18:54.05 | brailsmt | for example, vim |
| 18:54.19 | synic | right... but how does ufed help you do that? |
| 18:54.29 | synic | does it let you know what use flags are available for a package? |
| 18:54.58 | brailsmt | it is a nice ncurses (looks like 'make menuconfig') frontend with the use flag descriptions... |
| 18:55.08 | synic | nifty |
| 18:55.23 | synic | gonna have to try that |
| 18:55.35 | brailsmt | there are a lot more use flags than I thought there were... :) |
| 18:56.17 | Jayce^ | if FR then give up compilation. |
| 18:56.45 | brailsmt | yeah, it is called fr_wussy :) |
| 18:57.02 | synic | don't suppose you guys know anyone that needs a good PHP programmer :) |
| 18:57.14 | brailsmt | i need an employer... |
| 18:58.18 | synic | I know how it is. |
| 18:58.27 | synic | :( |
| 18:59.05 | Jayce^ | nope.. php is banned where I work.. |
| 18:59.20 | synic | banned? |
| 18:59.27 | synic | why is that? |
| 18:59.31 | Jayce^ | yeah, we dont' allow it on the servers.. |
| 18:59.42 | brailsmt | php == big hack |
| 18:59.45 | Jayce^ | we had too many security holes happen when we did have it. |
| 18:59.52 | Jayce^ | brailsmt: agreed.. |
| 19:00.02 | synic | so what do you use? |
| 19:00.07 | brailsmt | use eruby instead :) |
| 19:00.14 | Jayce^ | too many designers that thought they were programmers kept adding crappy stuff.. |
| 19:00.16 | synic | eruby huh... |
| 19:00.20 | brailsmt | or (*barf*) modperl |
| 19:00.20 | Jayce^ | synic: we're a perl shop |
| 19:00.31 | Jayce^ | Mod_perl is the best man.. |
| 19:00.33 | synic | well, I know perl too, so hire me anyway :) |
| 19:00.50 | brailsmt | i know just enough perl to get by... |
| 19:01.08 | brailsmt | #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 19:01.10 | synic | brailsmt: what's eruby? |
| 19:01.14 | Jayce^ | synic: how much perl /mod_perl.. |
| 19:01.15 | brailsmt | `ruby -e <script>` |
| 19:01.18 | brailsmt | :) |
| 19:01.29 | Jayce^ | 'perl -e <script>' also.. |
| 19:01.37 | Jayce^ | remeber where ruby got it from :) |
| 19:01.39 | synic | Jayce^: never used mod_perl, but I have about a year and a half experience with CGI perl |
| 19:01.50 | synic | it's been a while since I actively used it, though. |
| 19:02.07 | Jayce^ | cool.. every once and a while I call for resumes to pass on to the lead developer (he does the hiring decisions).. |
| 19:02.09 | brailsmt | actually ruby's more proper shebang is '#!/usr/bin/env ruby' |
| 19:02.32 | Jayce^ | brailsmt: you can also do that in perl, or with 'which' |
| 19:02.59 | synic | Jayce^: well, keep me in mind. I can give you some good references... |
| 19:03.15 | brailsmt | oh yeah, you can do lots of stuff in ruby... ;) |
| 19:03.18 | Jayce^ | will do, watch the lists, that's where I normally post it.. |
| 19:03.32 | synic | ok. |
| 19:04.08 | Jayce^ | brailsmt: ruby is just one attempt at a perl 6.. so it took many of the good things of perl, and took the natural perl method of evolution.. that's why so many perl programmers like it.. |
| 19:04.23 | synic | brailsmt: do you have a good url on eruby? |
| 19:04.25 | Jayce^ | but then, there are quirks that I think the real perl 6 will fix for me.. |
| 19:04.34 | Jayce^ | ouch, that is rock bottom |
| 19:04.38 | synic | NO! |
| 19:04.50 | brailsmt | naw, i'm just kidding... |
| 19:04.55 | synic | go work at mc'donalds , but not vb.net! |
| 19:05.03 | brailsmt | but I am thinking about adding my vb experience to my resume... |
| 19:05.31 | Jayce^ | the repentance process is long and hard.. |
| 19:05.34 | brailsmt | my dad asked me once if I would consider a job working for microsoft... |
| 19:05.51 | brailsmt | i told him "sure before my kids starve, but after mcdonalds fires me" |
| 19:05.53 | Jayce^ | brailsmt: be the inside person who leaks the halloween letters :) |
| 19:06.08 | brailsmt | he was not amused... |
| 19:06.17 | Jayce^ | he work there? |
| 19:06.22 | brailsmt | that was a year ago... |
| 19:07.02 | brailsmt | last week he was telling me that linux might actually turn out to be an asset since it is gaining popularity in corporations... |
| 19:07.16 | brailsmt | i felt like saying, "DUH!!!" |
| 19:07.19 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 19:07.26 | brailsmt | but i bit my tongue |
| 19:07.33 | synic | hehe :) |
| 19:07.38 | brailsmt | naw, my dad works for Hallmark Cards |
| 19:08.27 | brailsmt | but he is one of the decision makers that has this idea that if it isn't microsoft, it isn't good... |
| 19:08.49 | brailsmt | i have been working on him though... |
| 19:09.36 | synic | brailsmt: you know anything about making ebuilds? |
| 19:09.39 | brailsmt | he says he just wants his computer to work, and that linux won't do that... I am going to send him a knoppix CD and ask if it "just works" well enough for him :) |
| 19:09.56 | Jayce^ | perfect way to make a point.. |
| 19:10.09 | brailsmt | "just work" == microsoft to many uninfmormed ppl... |
| 19:10.32 | brailsmt | synic: i have no clue, I have never looked into it... |
| 19:10.34 | Jayce^ | my father in law is like that, decision maker for a large drug company out east.. knoppix freaked him out when I used it on his computer to get some work done.. |
| 19:11.11 | Jayce^ | took me a bit to explain to him that the oracle servers he was connecting to were really running Unix... |
| 19:11.12 | brailsmt | people have this idead that if it isn't MS it is somehow infected, or underhanded... |
| 19:11.51 | brailsmt | they are, as Ursula so aptly put it, "poor, unfortunate souls" :) |
| 19:11.57 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 19:12.19 | brailsmt | wheeee... |
| 19:12.21 | brailsmt | have fun |
| 19:12.34 | Jayce^ | first time in a looong time. |
| 19:12.39 | Jayce^ | so it'll be really bad.. |
| 19:13.14 | brailsmt | worst i had was 9 cavities after my mission... |
| 19:13.24 | brailsmt | Chilean water it seems is corrosive... |
| 19:13.41 | brailsmt | at least to teeth... |
| 19:15.19 | Jayce^ | heh.. I had to get cavities fixed in brasil... |
| 19:15.23 | Jayce^ | no novicaine.. |
| 19:15.27 | Jayce^ | they hit a nerve.. |
| 19:15.38 | Jayce^ | "worst pain ever...." |
| 19:19.23 | brailsmt | ouch... |
| 19:20.21 | brailsmt | i had a hard time once, the pain killer just wasn't doing its job... they gave me the legal limit and then had to go on anyway... |
| 19:21.17 | brailsmt | my lip was numb as could be, but i felt that drill... though, i bet my pain was still muted because of the pain killer, yours must have hurt incredibly bad... |
| 19:22.29 | brailsmt | my wife's wisdom teeth were so hard to pull out that it took the dentist 2.5 hours to pull one of them, and he was swearing up a storm over it... |
| 19:23.19 | brailsmt | i was lucky, and got my wisdom teeth pulled by an oral surgeon :) and he was a family freind |
| 19:24.04 | brailsmt | i fell aslepp talking about BYU footbal, and woke up and they were gone... piece of cake :) |
| 19:40.36 | synic | brailsmt: ok... you gotta test this mozilla firebird ebuild for me |
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| 19:51.33 | brailsmt | firebird is already in portage... hang on |
| 19:52.27 | brailsmt | no, it is firebird relational db... |
| 20:00.19 | hans | Jayce^: (who is gone to the dentist), I should think that since ruby is here first that perl6 is just a ruby. ;-) |
| 20:01.38 | synic | brailsmt: http://www.4akwote.com/adam/firebird-bin.tar.bz2 |
| 20:14.09 | statik | Is perl6 out? |
| 20:16.54 | synic | I guess he didn't like the ebuild. |
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| 20:59.27 | statik | Hey, is anyone awake? |
| 21:01.02 | statik | TimRiker: Dont you live in texas now? |
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| 21:51.49 | TimRiker | yep. not that you are listening anymore |
| 21:54.41 | brailsmt | i just got here... sheesh... ;) |
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