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00:14.14hansblast
00:16.50leviblast?
00:17.35hansoit is messing with routers and now I can't get to my box from campus either
00:21.52leviHeh.  Whoops.
00:22.29hansthing I'm scared of is that they decided to firewall off resnet and provide only outbound internet. that would make me quite upset
00:40.05Mecworksibot: seen timr?
00:40.06Mecworks: i haven't seen 'timr'
00:40.12Mecworksibot: seen timriker?
00:40.12timriker <~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 6h 22m 22s ago, saying: 'ljp: not feeling well to boot?'.
00:40.31Mecworksibot: seen bzflag?
00:40.31bzflag <~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 13d 1h 19m 37s ago, saying: 'Bonez39: you mean MTU?'.
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02:30.09Jayce^just a note, if you try importing 25k people from a gedcom into gramps, it takes a while..  and is still taking a while..
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02:57.04levi_Whew, just got back from a bike ride.
02:57.26levi_Rode from about 90th S and 7th W up to the mouth of Little Cottonwood.
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03:44.09Jayce^just a note.. gramps doesn't work all that well with large datasets..
03:44.21Jayce^for anyone who wants to know..
04:11.56levi_gramps?
04:13.27Jayce^unix genealogy program
04:15.40Jayce^cool, you can output the relationships in your file in .dot format, and make regular, or even 3d graphs out of it..
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16:03.39kryptikWhere are you at?
16:03.53kryptikMecworks
16:03.53Mecworkswho?
16:04.04MecworksNovell - you?
16:04.15kryptikAhh, PG.
16:04.31Mecworkshm
16:04.41MecworksI live in Orem though
16:05.15kryptikYea, your ip showed novell so I thought I would ask?
16:05.21kryptikYou work for em?
16:06.06Mecworksyea - started abuout two months ago.  They were (are?) hiring a lot of Linux people.  THey are porting all their services to Linux   8^)
16:06.26kryptikNice
16:06.57Mecworksvery nice...  I've been really impressed with the company so far.  My team in particular is filled with many spart people.
16:07.37kryptikHmm. In my opinion Novell is a good idea with bad managment.
16:08.10tensaikryptik: I'll concur on that one
16:08.56kryptik:)
16:12.23kryptikFour days till the move: /me is movin to sin city
16:17.59MecworksYea, hop[efully thoes days are over.  I hear most of the old management has been removed.  
16:18.16MecworksHey tensai, genki?
16:18.44Mecworkskryptik: Vegas?  I hate vegas...
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16:20.23kryptikMecworks: why do you hate vegas?
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16:24.56tensaiMecworks: genki yo
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17:27.37Derek_Yay hans!!!
17:27.42Derek_dvorak rocks
17:29.13hans[dvorak]dabo = hans in dvorak :)
17:29.34Derek_e.p.t = derek
17:30.33Derek_That's kind of a scary one. Isn't that a pregnancy test?
17:30.59leviHeh.
17:31.23leviI had a hard enough time learning to type the first time.  I have no desire to do it again. :)
17:31.49Derek_it's not too bad.  I'm actually better at touch typing now than I was with qwerty
17:39.28Derek_how is it?
17:41.38hans[dvorak]awesome
17:42.55hans[dvorak]http://texturizer.net/firebird/download.html
17:43.23hans[dvorak]doesn't even require installation
17:43.26Derek_what's so good about it?
17:43.35hans[dvorak]untar and run
17:43.39hans[dvorak]small
17:44.33hans[dvorak]'just a browser' (based on mozilla trunk)
17:44.54Derek_is it better than mozilla?
17:45.02kryptikIsnt everything
17:45.06hans[dvorak]think galeon but x-platform and xul
17:49.25leviI'm pleased with the current state of Konqueror
17:59.12hans[dvorak]k.* != small
17:59.34hans[dvorak]pretty and nice, yes
18:00.03Derek_why do you want a small browser?  Is it faster, or just save you some Mb on your hd?
18:00.39hans[dvorak]speed
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19:35.32hansgack
19:35.43hansso I took Jayce^' enthusiasm and got the cvs vim
19:35.48hanswhich uses gtk2
19:35.55hanswhich uses antialiased fonts
19:35.56hanswhich is lame
19:36.06hansJayce^: how do I turn off antialiased fonts?
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20:07.25levihans: Why do you want to turn of antialiased fonts?
20:07.29levioff
20:08.04hanshard on the eyes in an editor
20:08.50leviDo you have the hinting turned on?
20:09.16leviAnd do you have the Bitstream Vera fonts and Microsoft web fonts installed?
20:09.39leviActually, I think the fonts look better without the hinting stuff.
20:10.13leviBut the scalable fonts besides those ones look like crap no matter what.
20:11.37hanswhich fixed-width font do you use, that looks good with antialiasing?
20:28.24leviBitstream Vera Sans Mono, usually.
20:28.51leviFor terminals I use a non-scalable font, LucidaTypewriter.
20:29.10leviBut I've got fonts set up so I can use both at the same time.
20:29.49leviSo all the text in most of my apps is antialiased scalable fonts, but terminal-type apps use LucidaTypewriter.
20:32.38leviIf you're using Debian still, you can dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig to let it allow you to use both scalable and non-scalable fonts at the same time.
20:33.30leviI'm tempted to remove a lot of the fonts that come with X, though, because compared to the ones I mentioned they look absolutely wretched.
20:34.30hansi may try that at home. this is mandrake
20:34.46hansluxi mono looks good enough to give a try
20:36.50leviI'm not sure what exactly reconfiguring fontconfig does, so I couldn't tell you how to make Mandrake do it.
20:39.05hansdo you have LucidaTypewriter antialiased as well?
20:39.20hansor is non-scalable implicitly non-antialiased?
20:41.12leviI think it's implicitly non-antialiased, except it will try to scale and antialias it if you select a size that it doesn't have a bitmap for.
20:43.23hanson this system, if I run gvim plain I don't have lucidatypewriter (or any other non-scalable fonts), but I do (and don't have antialiasing) if I set GDK_USE_XFT=1
20:46.47leviHrm.
20:47.26hansbut at least for the moment I'm satisfied with Luxi Mono (antialiased)
20:47.51leviYeah, there are some nice fonts.
22:28.48Bonez39hi levi
22:41.23leviHey, how's it going?
22:43.52Bonez39pretty good...
22:44.00Bonez39are you flooding yet there?
22:44.08Bonez39I can't believe all the water we are receiving here now
22:51.24BradipoWHere are you at?
22:52.30Bonez39in Sandy
22:52.42Bonez39Bradipo: I have a quick question..
22:53.36Bonez39I am running Win4lin..but here's the question..I have two drives..I want to install a windows app on this one drive.....I have run chmod -r 666 publisher ...but still it won't write to that drive..is this due to the drive type? i.e., not a fat drive?
22:55.24Bonez39any ideas?
22:55.58leviIs it really raining that much?  Hrm, my car is probably wet inside then. :/
22:56.08leviI'm at the south edge of Sandy.
22:56.25leviI need to get my new top on.
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23:05.39hansGet the n a m e you want for l e s s  than $15.
23:05.40hansN0 minimum p u r c h a s e  term and no t r a n s f e r restrictions.
23:05.56hansmy bayesian filter was fooled by these tricks for about a day.
23:06.17leviHeh. :)
23:06.29leviI don't get a whole lot of that stuff.

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