| 01:07.26 | hans | whoa |
| 01:07.29 | hans | unix port of putty |
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| 04:50.03 | levi_ | Anyone awake? |
| 04:50.21 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 04:50.40 | levi_ | Whassup? |
| 04:50.51 | levi_ | <-- bored ;) |
| 04:51.43 | Bradipo_ | lol |
| 04:51.55 | Bradipo_ | I'm just sending out an email to someone on the qmail@list.cr.yp.to mailing list. |
| 04:52.23 | levi_ | I'm suffering from having eaten too much junk food. |
| 04:52.49 | Bradipo_ | Greasy? |
| 04:53.04 | Bradipo_ | Iceberg maybe? |
| 04:54.05 | levi_ | I had a couple of brownies, an otter pop, and then I had a hot dog with saurkraut, some other German food that I can't remember, a big slice of super-rich chocolate cake, and some ice cream. |
| 04:54.14 | Bradipo_ | Ouch. |
| 04:56.18 | levi_ | I couldn't finish the cake and ice cream... too much. |
| 04:57.03 | Bradipo_ | I had tortelloni and a 3 cheese sauce (home made of course) for dinner. :-) |
| 04:57.18 | levi_ | Mmmmm. |
| 04:57.32 | levi_ | Good stuff. |
| 04:57.52 | levi_ | Spaetzel. I think that's the other stuff I had. Though I don't know if that's how you spell it. |
| 04:58.13 | Bradipo_ | What is it? |
| 04:58.29 | levi_ | It's like a bunch of mini-dumplings in a sauce. |
| 04:58.37 | levi_ | They're bean-sized. |
| 04:59.26 | Bradipo_ | Interesting, I've never had it. |
| 04:59.31 | Bradipo_ | Is it German? |
| 04:59.55 | levi_ | Ahh, I was close. It's spaetzle. And yeah, it's German. |
| 05:00.22 | levi_ | I've got a neighbor girl that loves to cook, and her roommate loves to bake. It's great. :) |
| 05:00.34 | Bradipo_ | Same one that was flirting with the Brit? |
| 05:01.30 | levi_ | No the Brit is staying with these two. So that girl was there tonight too, they were watching a movie. |
| 05:01.49 | Bradipo_ | Not that I have anything against British folk mind you... |
| 05:02.28 | levi_ | Well, none of us have anything against this particular guy, except that I think he's starting to wear his welcome a bit thin. |
| 05:02.44 | Bradipo_ | Heh, starting to get a big head is he? |
| 05:03.10 | levi_ | And he really ought not to be behaving as he is with this girl. |
| 05:03.28 | levi_ | Not that they're doing anything bad, but he's just on vacation here for goodness sake. |
| 05:04.01 | Bradipo_ | All the more reason for him to behave like that in his opinion I'm sure. |
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| 05:04.22 | levi_ | No, he's really a nice guy. I had a long chat with him about it today. |
| 05:04.33 | Bradipo_ | That's cool. |
| 05:04.41 | levi_ | I assume he's talked to or is going to talk to her about it to make sure she knows what she's doing. |
| 05:05.15 | Bradipo_ | That's good. |
| 05:05.28 | Bradipo_ | Played any more board games lately? |
| 05:05.43 | levi_ | Nope, I'm board gamed out for a while. |
| 05:05.56 | levi_ | Once a week is about my limit. |
| 05:06.01 | Bradipo_ | I sure would like to get back into MERP again. |
| 05:06.12 | Jayce^ | board games... mmmm |
| 05:06.26 | Jayce^ | s/s$//; |
| 05:06.36 | Bradipo_ | But I prefer Fortress America though. |
| 05:06.52 | Jayce^ | I've heard that's a good one.. haven't played it though |
| 05:07.13 | Bradipo_ | I think it's out of print. |
| 05:07.31 | Bradipo_ | I still have one from years ago though. |
| 05:14.58 | levi_ | Hmm... do I want to try to get my camera to play with Linux again tonight? |
| 05:15.23 | Bradipo_ | What kind is it? |
| 05:15.33 | levi_ | Canon PowerShot S100. |
| 05:15.39 | levi_ | Uses USB. |
| 05:15.47 | Bradipo_ | Shouldn't be too difficult. |
| 05:15.51 | Bradipo_ | Did you try gphoto? |
| 05:15.56 | Bradipo_ | Or gphoto2. |
| 05:16.12 | levi_ | I've tried gphoto2, there's some sort of problem that may be due to me running a 2.5 kernel at the moment. |
| 05:16.52 | Bradipo_ | Hmm. |
| 05:17.04 | Bradipo_ | This is one area that I wish *nix had better support. |
| 05:17.32 | Bradipo_ | I have a digital camera as well but I find that I still have to use Windows to convert the images from their RAW format to a useable JPEG format. |
| 05:17.59 | Bradipo_ | There is a utility that is open source, but it doesn't get the white balance right and all the images look extremely overexposed. |
| 05:18.16 | Bradipo_ | I suppose I could run the Canon conversion utility with WINE. |
| 05:18.38 | levi_ | Yeah, I've been using Windows for my photos, since the software works well and is nice for organizing. |
| 05:18.52 | levi_ | I should get a USB card for my Mac and use iPhoto, though. |
| 05:19.02 | levi_ | Then I wouldn't have to use Windows. |
| 05:19.03 | Bradipo_ | The organizing isn't a big issue for me. |
| 05:19.15 | Bradipo_ | I find I can organize much better with scripts and stuff than any GUI program. :-) |
| 05:19.28 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 05:19.31 | Bradipo_ | Do you have OS X? |
| 05:19.38 | levi_ | Yup. |
| 05:19.42 | Bradipo_ | Cool. |
| 05:19.56 | levi_ | I've got an old beige G3 from BYU surplus that I've upgraded. |
| 05:20.56 | levi_ | If I get the USB card, it'll be my gadget control and print center. It was my primary computer for a while, but now it mostly controls my iPod. |
| 05:21.44 | levi_ | I retired it from primary computer duty because the mouse got really flaky, but someone sent me a new one, so it could take over primary duty again if I felt like switching things around. |
| 05:22.06 | Bradipo_ | G3 isn't too bad of a system is it? |
| 05:23.39 | levi_ | Well, it's got a 75mhz bus or something slow like that, and an old hard drive. I've upgraded it to a 500mhz G4 processor, but it's still obviously not a new computer. |
| 05:23.44 | levi_ | It's definitely usable, though. |
| 05:24.07 | levi_ | I lived with it quite happily for something like 6 months before the mouse got too bad for me to deal with. |
| 05:24.24 | levi_ | Then I had to go through all the trouble of setting up nice fonts for Linux, since I'd been spoiled by the Mac. |
| 05:24.35 | levi_ | Luckily, Debian has advanced to the point where it's pretty easy. |
| 05:24.51 | Bradipo_ | Well, it couldn't be any worse than my PII 350Mhz then eh? |
| 05:25.25 | Bradipo_ | Which up until recently was just a PII 266Mhz. |
| 05:25.37 | levi_ | Well, the OS X system is pretty heavy, but Jaguar did make some speed improvements. |
| 05:25.48 | Bradipo_ | I bet it is. |
| 05:26.33 | levi_ | I really like the whole feel of the computer, though. From the hardware design to the OS. It's got a nice well-engineered feeling that's pleasant to work with. |
| 05:33.33 | levi_ | On the other hand, I switched to KDE at work, and I'm also really liking that. Though I can't give up xchat and gaim. |
| 05:34.46 | Bradipo_ | Good. |
| 05:35.05 | Bradipo_ | xchat is much better than kvirc (or whatever it is called). :-) |
| 05:35.24 | Bradipo_ | But I believe KDE is the best solution for most people's desktop. |
| 05:35.55 | levi_ | gaim is also miles ahead of any alternatives. |
| 05:36.24 | Bradipo_ | I actually prefer TiK. |
| 05:36.28 | Bradipo_ | But I don't even use that anymore. |
| 05:36.39 | Bradipo_ | I use my own AIM client that bridges it into xchat. |
| 05:36.42 | Bradipo_ | Via IRC. |
| 05:39.54 | levi_ | That's cool, though I'd still prefer gaim. It also connects to my Yahoo and ICQ accounts. |
| 05:40.20 | Bradipo_ | I have neither of those. |
| 05:40.40 | Bradipo_ | I figure if people want to chat they will either use IRC or AIM. :-) |
| 05:43.46 | levi_ | I've got an old friend on ICQ that won't switch, and there was a girl I'd chat with frequently on Yahoo but I never see her online anymore. |
| 05:44.15 | Bradipo_ | Write a bot like mine for ICQ. |
| 05:44.32 | levi_ | But why, when I already use and like gaim? |
| 05:44.36 | Bradipo_ | Then everytime your ICQ buddy sends you an IM, have the bot send back nags to remind him to switch to AIM. :-) |
| 05:45.00 | Bradipo_ | And if he asks why you send them, tell him that it's automatic. |
| 05:47.07 | Bradipo_ | http://www.bradfordfamily.org/~andy/cgi-bin/pictures.cgi?a=1&b=2003/04&d=0300.jpg |
| 05:47.17 | Bradipo_ | Picture taken with my cam. :-) |
| 05:48.02 | levi_ | Wow, cool. You've got a spiffy SLR digicam, right? |
| 05:48.20 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 05:48.32 | Bradipo_ | I'm still learning how to use it (even after 7 months). |
| 05:48.35 | levi_ | That's a really nice picture. |
| 05:48.55 | Bradipo_ | It's not bad. |
| 05:49.01 | Bradipo_ | It's not as sharp as I would like it though. |
| 05:49.16 | Bradipo_ | I'm still working out getting the dioptric adjustment setup properly for my poor vision. |
| 05:49.34 | Bradipo_ | Photography sucks when you can't make the pictures sharp. :-) |
| 05:50.37 | levi_ | Ah, yeah. :) |
| 05:51.03 | Bradipo_ | http://www.bradfordfamily.org/~andy/cgi-bin/pictures.cgi?a=1&b=2003/04&d=0299.jpg |
| 05:51.10 | Bradipo_ | That one is almost too close for comfort. :-) |
| 05:52.51 | levi_ | Wow. |
| 05:53.26 | Bradipo_ | I'm hoping that I can turn a profit once I get better at taking pictures... |
| 05:53.56 | levi_ | That'd be cool. |
| 05:54.00 | levi_ | How much was the camera? |
| 05:54.17 | Bradipo_ | Too much. |
| 05:54.24 | Bradipo_ | What really sucks... |
| 05:54.37 | Bradipo_ | The new successor just came out in February. |
| 05:54.44 | Bradipo_ | And my brother picked it up for $700 less than mine. |
| 05:55.11 | Bradipo_ | Sometimes I really hate technology. |
| 05:55.28 | levi_ | Yow. Yeah, that's a bummer. |
| 05:55.37 | Bradipo_ | Digital cameras are worse than computers. |
| 05:56.20 | levi_ | I'm just going to stick with my S100 for a while. It's not great, but it's good and serves my limited photographic needs well. |
| 05:56.29 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 05:56.41 | Bradipo_ | If you're not into photography as a hobby or a profession, it isn't worth the money. |
| 05:57.38 | levi_ | It would be kind of fun, but I just don't think I've got the knack for seeing pictures I could take very often. |
| 05:58.07 | levi_ | I do have a few up on my blog, though. |
| 05:58.18 | levi_ | lifeoflevi.com/photos.php |
| 05:58.55 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, where are they? |
| 05:59.08 | Bradipo_ | Ahh. |
| 05:59.09 | Bradipo_ | There they are. |
| 05:59.17 | Bradipo_ | Copying and pasting didn't work for some reason. |
| 05:59.26 | levi_ | Ahh, weird. |
| 05:59.48 | Bradipo_ | Is that a real cornucopia? |
| 05:59.55 | Bradipo_ | It looks real... |
| 05:59.59 | Bradipo_ | Home made. |
| 06:00.06 | levi_ | Yeah, it's home made. |
| 06:00.23 | Bradipo_ | Sweet. |
| 06:00.33 | levi_ | My friend Jason made it. It's a chicken wire mesh covered with pastry strips. |
| 06:00.41 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, now I'm hungry for some fruit. |
| 06:01.16 | Bradipo_ | You know, those pictures aren't too bad. |
| 06:01.54 | Bradipo_ | What resolution did you use for them? |
| 06:01.58 | levi_ | It's just that I only take pictures once every couple of months or something. |
| 06:02.10 | levi_ | 1600x1200, I think. |
| 06:02.23 | Bradipo_ | Wow! |
| 06:02.33 | Bradipo_ | That's pretty good for a small digital camera. |
| 06:02.42 | Bradipo_ | But, the Canon PowerShots are pretty good. |
| 06:03.07 | levi_ | It's not a bad camera for putting stuff on the web. Things get a bit grainy when you blow them up if the lighting isn't just right, though. |
| 06:03.15 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 06:03.24 | Bradipo_ | Does it switch ISO automatically for you? |
| 06:03.55 | levi_ | I'm not sure. I assume so. |
| 06:04.18 | levi_ | I leave it in auto mode most of the time, even though that doesn't allow you to use the highest quality mode. |
| 06:05.00 | levi_ | Because the controls are a bit awkward for setting all the manual controls and I haven't got the best grasp on what effect they have. |
| 06:05.45 | Bradipo_ | I rarely use automatic mode anymore. |
| 06:06.17 | levi_ | Weird, I followed a link to the photos page and they didn't show up for me either. |
| 06:06.24 | Bradipo_ | Heh. |
| 06:06.38 | levi_ | Oh, because the link is now different. |
| 06:06.48 | Bradipo_ | Can't blame you really since it looks like you're using PHPNuke |
| 06:07.26 | levi_ | Nah, I'm using my own PHP scripts, Movable Type, and Gallery. |
| 06:07.35 | Bradipo_ | Something in your website keeps locking up my netscape. :-) |
| 06:07.47 | Bradipo_ | Interesting. |
| 06:08.00 | Bradipo_ | My cousin has a very similar look and feel and he is using PHP Nuke. |
| 06:08.11 | levi_ | What netscape are you using? |
| 06:08.17 | Bradipo_ | Old. |
| 06:08.28 | Bradipo_ | Let me check. |
| 06:08.42 | Bradipo_ | 4.61 |
| 06:08.46 | levi_ | Oh, yuck. |
| 06:08.55 | levi_ | It probably doesn't look at all like it's supposed to. |
| 06:08.58 | Bradipo_ | It actually works for most websites. |
| 06:09.16 | Bradipo_ | It works with my bank, and that's all I really care about. :-) |
| 06:09.32 | Bradipo_ | I'm not really big on pretty websites. |
| 06:09.35 | levi_ | I'm using stylesheets for all the layout, and it's set up so Netscape doesn't get to see the stylesheets at all. |
| 06:09.46 | Bradipo_ | I would personally rather have all the fluff left out and just get to the content. |
| 06:10.00 | Bradipo_ | Thanks for keeping out the stylesheets. :-) |
| 06:10.06 | Bradipo_ | Usually I just disable them. |
| 06:10.26 | levi_ | Stylesheets are very nice when you have a browser that supports them. NS4 is evil that way, though. |
| 06:10.32 | Bradipo_ | I actually like your website without the CSS. |
| 06:10.34 | levi_ | It pretends it supports them, but it doesn't really. |
| 06:10.55 | Bradipo_ | Very minimalist looking that way. |
| 06:11.04 | levi_ | Well, I made it so it'd degrade somewhat gracefully, even though it doesn't look at all the way I designed it. |
| 06:12.07 | levi_ | It's minimalist even with the CSS, it's just got a different layout and color scheme. |
| 06:12.17 | Bradipo_ | I see. |
| 06:13.03 | levi_ | The navigation menu is on the right and the title is up top with large blue text in a light gray bar. |
| 06:13.29 | Bradipo_ | I'll have to check it out with Mozilla or Opera sometime. |
| 06:14.05 | levi_ | Did you look inside the albums or just at the cover photos? |
| 06:14.18 | Bradipo_ | Well, I'm looking at some waterfalls right now... |
| 06:14.39 | Bradipo_ | That Wind Cave in Logan looks cool. |
| 06:14.44 | Bradipo_ | I should go up there sometime. |
| 06:14.48 | levi_ | Yeah, it was fun. |
| 06:15.05 | Bradipo_ | I bet there's a geocache around there somewhere. |
| 06:15.06 | levi_ | That reminds me, I need to email the girl I went there with. Haven't talked with her in ages. |
| 06:15.37 | levi_ | The waterfalls in the Natural Places section were some of my first pictures with the camera. |
| 06:16.00 | Bradipo_ | Cool. |
| 06:16.10 | Bradipo_ | It's probably a lot easier to pack around than mine. :-) |
| 06:16.22 | levi_ | Oh yeah. That's why I picked it out. |
| 06:16.57 | levi_ | Probably my favorite of that bunch is the trail with the stream and all the ferns and moss. |
| 06:17.22 | Bradipo_ | Yeah, it's nice to be in an area that has moisture... |
| 06:19.48 | levi_ | Heh, someone left a comment on my moose photo. |
| 06:19.57 | Bradipo_ | Really? |
| 06:20.00 | Bradipo_ | I must have missed it. |
| 06:20.09 | Bradipo_ | The comment that is. |
| 06:20.19 | levi_ | " Dang, that's a big boy! " |
| 06:20.30 | levi_ | The comments show up as a red dot in the album view. |
| 06:20.40 | Bradipo_ | I see. |
| 06:20.46 | Bradipo_ | It looks like a red asterisk to me. |
| 06:20.50 | Bradipo_ | Probably the CSS. |
| 06:20.58 | levi_ | Yeah. |
| 06:21.11 | levi_ | Well, it is a red asterisk, it's probably just bigger for you. |
| 06:21.27 | levi_ | Hmm, I like most of my Yellowstone pictures. I haven't looked at these in a while. |
| 06:21.33 | Bradipo_ | Oh, I see. |
| 06:21.40 | Bradipo_ | Well I'm running at 1600x1200. |
| 06:21.58 | Bradipo_ | Most people can't read the text in my xterms because they are so small. |
| 06:22.04 | Bradipo_ | I fit 9 of them on my desktop. :-) |
| 06:22.35 | levi_ | What size monitor? |
| 06:22.40 | Bradipo_ | 19" |
| 06:23.28 | levi_ | Yow. I can't do 1600x1200 on my 19", it's too small for me and I prefer a higher refresh rate than it allows me. |
| 06:23.57 | Bradipo_ | So, I wonder why your asterisk looks smaller. |
| 06:24.28 | levi_ | Probably the font. |
| 06:25.01 | Bradipo_ | Could be. |
| 06:25.21 | levi_ | It makes it a little superscript thing. |
| 06:26.03 | Bradipo_ | Right. |
| 06:26.12 | Bradipo_ | I see the superscript (or rather, I can tell that it is offset). |
| 06:26.59 | levi_ | I'm also fond of the mountain biking photos. |
| 06:27.30 | Bradipo_ | I like the ruins. |
| 06:27.38 | Bradipo_ | I never knew there were ruins at the top of the trail. |
| 06:27.53 | levi_ | Yeah, those are cool. |
| 06:29.07 | levi_ | I like the Moab shots, too. Because Moab is just cool like that. |
| 06:29.28 | Bradipo_ | I've never been, but then again, I'm not a big mountain biker (or digger). |
| 06:30.00 | levi_ | The scenery is amazing, even if you don't ride on it. There's lots of hiking in the area. |
| 06:30.15 | Bradipo_ | Yeah, I would like to get out there just for the scenery. |
| 06:30.56 | Bradipo_ | Well, time to sleep... |
| 06:30.59 | Bradipo_ | Later. |
| 06:31.03 | levi_ | Seeya |
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| 14:32.48 | levi | Yo. |
| 14:32.56 | Derek_ | sup |
| 14:36.11 | levi | Nada mucho |
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