| 00:05.20 | Jayce^ | yeah, I just couldn't remember that it was DISPLAY.. for some reason I was thinking it was Xsomething |
| 00:07.43 | Bradipo | Well, there is a .Xauthority file and an XAUTHORITY environment variable. |
| 00:09.45 | hans | anyone know why I can't have more than 6 xterms open? |
| 00:09.49 | hans | I get this in .xsession-errors |
| 00:09.51 | hans | unable to access pty device: No such file or directory |
| 00:10.34 | hans | $ aterm |
| 00:10.34 | hans | aterm: can't open slave tty (null) |
| 00:10.44 | hans | rxvt is happy |
| 00:15.49 | levi__ | How many pseudo-ttys do you have configured? |
| 00:17.48 | hans | dunno. i don't recall configuring any |
| 00:23.24 | hans | where would I configure them? |
| 01:11.33 | hans | i bet it's related to devfs |
| 01:27.46 | levi_ | It's a kernel thing, I think. |
| 01:33.59 | hans | fugalh@falcon:/dev$ ls -1 /dev/pty* | wc -l |
| 01:33.59 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.12 | hans | looks like ptya0 through ptyzf |
| 01:34.26 | hans | but that should make 416, so there's lots missing. don't know if that would be a problem |
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| 04:58.21 | Bradipo_ | Iron Chef cracks me up. |
| 04:59.07 | Jayce^ | hehe.. funny show.. |
| 04:59.18 | Jayce^ | the stupid judges always make me mad though |
| 05:00.11 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 05:00.24 | Bradipo_ | Well, they just had a battle in New York against the top NY chef. |
| 05:00.46 | Jayce^ | oh, they did the bobby flay one again? |
| 05:00.52 | Bradipo_ | All American judges. |
| 05:01.08 | Bradipo_ | It was Bobby Flay, but the last time I saw him it was in Japan. |
| 05:01.22 | Jayce^ | yeah, that was the "rematch" .. |
| 05:01.24 | Bradipo_ | This time they were in NY and it is an entirely new set and kitchen. |
| 05:01.27 | Bradipo_ | Oh. |
| 05:01.33 | Bradipo_ | Well, I haven't seen them all. |
| 05:01.36 | Bradipo_ | But Morimoto won. |
| 05:01.52 | Jayce^ | yeah.. I've seen that one.. (they are all repeats actually) |
| 05:02.13 | Bradipo_ | Yeah, I figured that. |
| 05:02.32 | Jayce^ | you ever watch 'good eats' |
| 05:02.34 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 05:03.01 | Jayce^ | now that's a good show.. |
| 05:03.54 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, not sure if I've seen it. |
| 05:03.58 | Bradipo_ | When does it come on? |
| 05:16.10 | brailsmt | my personal favorite show nowadays is American Chopper on Discovery Channel |
| 05:16.32 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, is that about a bike maker? |
| 05:18.29 | brailsmt | yeah |
| 05:18.34 | brailsmt | dsc.discovery.com/fansites/amchopper/bikes/bikes_zoom1.html |
| 05:18.38 | brailsmt | dsc.discovery.com/fansites/amchopper/bikes/bikes_zoom4.html |
| 05:22.28 | brailsmt | their bikes look *niiiice* |
| 05:22.34 | brailsmt | i wouldn't mind owning one |
| 05:27.00 | Bradipo_ | Yeah, I've seen those bikes. |
| 05:27.04 | Bradipo_ | And that show. |
| 05:27.17 | Bradipo_ | Very nice bikes indeed, and very expensive. |
| 05:31.16 | brailsmt | the best part of the show though is the interaction of Paul Jr and Paul Sr |
| 05:34.20 | Bradipo_ | Heh. |
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| 06:37.15 | kryptik | Anyone here know anything about the UEN NOC? |
| 06:38.45 | Bradipo_ | I don't, but I do know that UVSC's DNS sucks. :-) |
| 06:39.02 | Bradipo_ | And one of their name servers listed is in the UEN domain. |
| 06:39.38 | kryptik | Yea UVSC is one of the many that are part of UEN |
| 06:39.49 | kryptik | Heh.. |
| 06:40.07 | Bradipo_ | Their DNS is seriously jacked. |
| 06:40.14 | kryptik | Yea? |
| 06:40.31 | kryptik | Do you go to UVSC? |
| 06:41.08 | Bradipo_ | Yeah, currently. |
| 06:41.12 | kryptik | Sweet. |
| 06:43.28 | kryptik | The UEN NOC doesnt do a good job at maintaining security. I have enable access to a cisco router out in the Uintah Basin |
| 06:43.58 | kryptik | The guys who run this crap, really dont know anything |
| 06:44.20 | kryptik | Although, they do run quite a few networks.. |
| 06:44.40 | Bradipo_ | That shouldn't matter though. |
| 06:44.50 | kryptik | Yea.. |
| 06:44.57 | Bradipo_ | They should keep their network tight. |
| 06:45.59 | kryptik | Yup. They are paid to do so.. and really one slip up could mean the compromise of a system.. |
| 06:46.35 | Bradipo_ | I wouldn't mind taking over their DNS for them. |
| 06:46.42 | kryptik | Heh.. |
| 06:46.45 | Bradipo_ | It's ridiculous the way they have it setup now. |
| 06:46.50 | Bradipo_ | And I would gladly do it for free. |
| 06:46.57 | kryptik | Hmm. |
| 06:47.16 | Bradipo_ | As long as I get to dictate how it gets done. |
| 06:47.23 | kryptik | Right. |
| 06:47.24 | Bradipo_ | :-) |
| 06:47.36 | kryptik | Well if you were doing it all, I would hope you got the chance to dictate.. :) |
| 06:49.00 | kryptik | Speaking of cisco routers.. I got one here (Cisco Router Series 3000) And I need a ethernet adapter from a DB15 Male to RJ45 |
| 06:49.06 | kryptik | Have you ever seen one of those? |
| 06:49.45 | Bradipo_ | I have seen them. |
| 06:49.48 | kryptik | I cant find them anywhere, and I know I am not the only one who would rather use RJ45 over serial |
| 06:49.50 | kryptik | Hmm... |
| 06:49.51 | kryptik | Ok |
| 06:49.53 | Bradipo_ | Have one at work somewhere. |
| 06:50.07 | kryptik | What? |
| 06:50.13 | kryptik | The adapter? |
| 06:50.15 | Bradipo_ | The adapter. |
| 06:50.15 | kryptik | Or the router? |
| 06:50.19 | kryptik | Really? |
| 06:50.23 | kryptik | Can you find out who sells them? |
| 06:50.30 | Bradipo_ | If I can find it... |
| 06:50.36 | kryptik | Thanks man. |
| 06:50.39 | Bradipo_ | It's buried in a bunch of cables and pcs. |
| 06:50.56 | kryptik | Oh, well if its to much work dont even sweat it.. I can do with out. |
| 06:52.20 | Bradipo_ | Just replace the cisco with a linux or BSD router. :-) |
| 06:52.25 | Bradipo_ | Then you won't need the adapter. |
| 06:53.05 | kryptik | Heh.. |
| 06:53.18 | kryptik | I really want to play around with the IOS on this though.. |
| 06:53.29 | kryptik | Maybe I should take it apart |
| 06:53.39 | Bradipo_ | I would take it apart and put linux on it. |
| 06:53.46 | Bradipo_ | Cisco is nothing special. |
| 06:53.48 | kryptik | Could I do that |
| 06:54.00 | Bradipo_ | I've taken them apart and they were just like a regular PC (but without a hard drive). |
| 06:54.08 | kryptik | What do they use? Ram? |
| 06:54.11 | Bradipo_ | Not sure if you could, but it would be fun to try. |
| 06:54.12 | kryptik | NO that cant be.. |
| 06:54.23 | kryptik | I dont think you could |
| 06:54.27 | Bradipo_ | EEPROM or something like that I'm sure. |
| 06:54.34 | kryptik | Cisco hardware isnt compatible with linux |
| 06:54.38 | kryptik | er, vice versa |
| 06:54.46 | kryptik | Hmm.. |
| 06:55.36 | kryptik | That would be awesome if I could |
| 06:58.03 | kryptik | I found one ( an adapter ) that may work, but its well near 25 bucks a shot.. |
| 06:58.13 | kryptik | I have to decide if its worth it |
| 06:58.57 | Bradipo_ | I could by another network card for my router with that. :-) |
| 06:59.04 | kryptik | Yea, no kiddin. |
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| 16:09.32 | hans | Derek: I see you've been promoted |
| 16:09.38 | hans | and levi demoted |
| 16:10.47 | levi__ | ? |
| 16:11.02 | hans | the underscores |
| 16:11.16 | hans | unless they're marks of rank. ;-) |
| 16:11.36 | levi__ | Oh. Yeah, someone else has taken 'levi'. Bah. |
| 16:12.04 | levi__ | And the other me has the single underscore. |
| 16:14.07 | Jayce^ | levi++ :) |
| 16:14.18 | Jayce^ | doesn't sit well with bot's that keep karma |
| 16:14.44 | Derek | Wow. Now, I will never log off, so as not to lose it |
| 16:17.49 | Jayce^ | Derek: just register with nickserv |
| 16:19.08 | Bradipo | levi_: did you not register your nick with NickServ ? |
| 16:19.25 | Bradipo | Derek: You can protect your nick with NickServ. |
| 16:19.41 | Bradipo | No need to ``never log off'' |
| 16:20.09 | levi__ | Bradipo: No, I didn't. |
| 16:20.27 | Bradipo | Well, it isn't yet registered... |
| 16:20.43 | Bradipo | Apparently the current levi doesn't know it can be done. :-) |
| 16:20.55 | hans | so all you have to do is register it when you get it back |
| 16:21.00 | Bradipo | Right. |
| 16:21.01 | hans | then you can kick the other levi off. fun |
| 16:21.07 | Bradipo | Yeah, lots of fun. |
| 16:22.26 | levi__ | If he ever logs off. |
| 16:22.28 | Bradipo | Maybe I'll write a bot that continually attempts to switch it's nick to levi and then alerts you when it succeeds. :-) |
| 16:22.34 | levi__ | He's been on for quite a while. |
| 16:23.12 | Jayce^ | find out his ip, then ping-flood him :) |
| 16:23.14 | hans | levi__: just wait until there's a serious netsplit or something |
| 16:23.20 | hans | that might work |
| 16:23.27 | levi__ | Hmm. |
| 16:23.47 | hans | i got this nick when they did some sort of update of sorts and everyone had to re-register their nicks. the guy happened to be offline |
| 16:23.47 | levi__ | Like I'm ever paying enough attention here to catch it. :) |
| 16:24.04 | Bradipo | If you have enough bandwidth to DoS him for an extended period of time, IRC will eventually timeout and the server will disconnect him. :-) |
| 16:24.26 | Jayce^ | doesn't take all that long to irc disconnect.. |
| 16:24.39 | Bradipo | 2 minutes is a long time in Internet time. |
| 16:24.50 | Jayce^ | sudo ping -f :) |
| 16:25.16 | Bradipo | I don't know what the timeout is on this server, but our internal server disconnects after 2 minutes of not receiving a PONG. |
| 16:25.20 | levi__ | I think my sysadmin here would not like me if I flooded the network for 2 minutes. |
| 16:25.46 | Jayce^ | just get a few different machines to do it. |
| 16:25.47 | Bradipo | That's what I mean, two minutes isn't a lot of time, but 2 minutes of flooding is. |
| 16:26.13 | levi__ | One of you uber-haxxors can do it for me. ;) |
| 16:27.57 | hans | h3h |
| 16:29.26 | Jayce^ | ph34r m3 |
| 16:29.57 | tensai | w00t |
| 16:30.36 | Jayce^ | so hans, you still like the idea of doing that 'geek olympics' meeting? |
| 16:40.38 | hans | yeah, that'll be fun |
| 16:41.08 | Jayce^ | I'd like to get with the other groups, and try and get it going for august or so.. before classes are going, but when people are here.. |
| 16:44.28 | Bradipo | What are the ``geek olympics'' about? |
| 16:45.39 | Jayce^ | do a few 'events' of geeky nature.. get team/personal challenges.. maybe prizes.. |
| 16:48.25 | Jayce^ | I want do get a team trivia competition... |
| 16:48.50 | Jayce^ | s/do/to/ |
| 16:50.34 | tensai | how about a "Apache is broken, fix it" contest? |
| 16:50.54 | Jayce^ | some ideas like that.. I'd like to get a few people to run different events.. |
| 16:51.05 | Jayce^ | or a 'system load test'.. |
| 16:51.30 | hans | an obfuscation reading race |
| 16:52.09 | hans | find one of the winning C obfuscation contest things and have a race to see who can figure out what it's doing the fastest |
| 16:52.11 | Jayce^ | somebody have a requirements doc for a web app (functions that must be performed).. you build it in your language/system/backend of choice.. bring it in on a system (must be at least a certain age).. and then it gets slammed by other boxes, see if it stays up.. what load it handles.. |
| 16:52.33 | neybar | lets go a bbq or something with it |
| 16:53.17 | Jayce^ | that's a good idea.. |
| 16:58.14 | Jayce^ | bbq over the smoldering remains of some java users box in the aforementioned test :) |
| 17:03.52 | hans | :) |
| 17:05.11 | Bradipo | Is freenode laggy right now? |
| 17:05.17 | neybar | lol |
| 17:05.21 | Jayce^ | not really.. |
| 17:07.45 | Jayce^ | whoo.. now it is.. |
| 17:08.07 | hans | dunno about freenode |
| 17:08.13 | levi__ | I'm not laggy. |
| 17:08.29 | Jayce^ | going back down, but I had a big spike there.. |
| 17:10.15 | Bradipo | I am sending this at 11:10:15 |
| 17:13.57 | Jayce^ | dunno.. don't have timestamps on here.. |
| 17:14.22 | tensai | I got it at 10:10:31 |
| 17:14.36 | tensai | that's PDT |
| 17:14.59 | hans | i got it at 11:10 |
| 17:21.31 | Bradipo | Ping reply from Bradipo : 142.55 second(s) |
| 17:21.33 | Bradipo | Sheesh... |
| 17:27.09 | hans | 11:26 CTCP PING reply from Bradipo: 1.253 seconds |
| 17:27.30 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.59 | levi__ | Ping reply from Bradipo : 9.46 second(s) |
| 17:29.13 | levi__ | Ha ha, let's all make fun of how lagged Bradipo is! ;) |
| 17:29.32 | tensai | maybe somebody else wants the nick Bradipo |
| 17:34.22 | Bradipo | lol |
| 17:34.23 | Bradipo | It might just be our network. |
| 17:34.29 | Bradipo | I have just received a few pages that some of our remote offices are suffering big packet loss. |
| 17:38.18 | Jayce^ | Ping reply from Bradipo : 6.30 second(s) |
| 17:38.39 | Jayce^ | someone DDoS'ing over the lawsuit? |
| 17:38.54 | Bradipo | Heh, looks like you all weren't too far off. |
| 17:39.13 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 17:45.05 | hans | do tell |
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| 17:51.39 | Bradipo | Looks like I got disconnected. :-) |
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| 17:52.24 | hans | what fun |
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| 17:54.12 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
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| 18:42.48 | hans | i solved my mandrake issues: I'll just do everything in qnx |
| 18:48.45 | Jayce^ | qnx? |
| 18:49.10 | Bradipo | That's cool. |
| 18:49.19 | Bradipo | Isn't qnx a mini floppy distro? |
| 18:49.31 | Jayce^ | why not use knoppix then? |
| 18:49.57 | Bradipo | I thought qnx was very impressive. |
| 18:52.21 | Jayce^ | hrmm. apress just revamped their user group program.. actually sent some books.. and not windows ones.. |
| 18:52.35 | hans | no, qnx is a RTOS - real time operating system |
| 18:52.49 | hans | basically it's a POSIX system built from the ground up for realtime applications |
| 18:52.55 | hans | microkernel, etc. |
| 18:53.32 | hans | but it's not bad for a simple desktop either. their photon gui either runs X programs or lets X sit on top like OS X |
| 18:53.54 | hans | window decorations are real nice - in fact I used an IceWM theme based on it for a long time |
| 18:54.25 | hans | gaim, mozilla, vim... nothing missing. :) |
| 18:55.23 | hans | runs on all sorts of platforms too |
| 18:55.33 | hans | I think there's a free version (we run the professional edition here) |
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| 21:15.41 | Bonez39 | greetings |
| 21:16.13 | Bonez39 | anyone else around? |
| 21:27.39 | levi__ | I am. |
| 21:28.06 | Bonez39 | there you are.. |
| 21:28.15 | Bonez39 | do you ever use ssh, or putty? |
| 21:28.29 | levi__ | Occasionally. |
| 21:28.39 | levi__ | Well, I use ssh all the time. |
| 21:28.43 | levi__ | putty occasionally. |
| 21:28.57 | Bonez39 | I am trying to figure out if I can even attempt to connect to here..to this machine, from home.. |
| 21:29.07 | Bonez39 | would you be interested in helping me with this? |
| 21:29.46 | levi__ | Sure. |
| 21:30.54 | Bonez39 | ok...what do you need to try accessing me here....how do I set up the directories I want to share....so that I don't open myself up to trouble? |
| 21:31.13 | levi__ | Oh, you're running Windows? |
| 21:34.36 | levi__ | You appear to be behind a firewall. |
| 21:38.19 | Bonez39 | I have Win4Lin setup and running on my linux box.. |
| 21:38.32 | Bonez39 | and I assume that the router is acting as a firewall.. |
| 21:38.47 | Bonez39 | but with the right information..shouldn't I be able to get through the firewall? |
| 21:39.24 | levi__ | Perhaps, but I can't be of much help there. |
| 21:39.57 | Bonez39 | ok.. |
| 21:42.35 | Bradipo | I doubt you will be able to access Windows shares through the firewall in any way. |
| 21:43.35 | Bradipo | If it were any other TCP based protocol, I would say it's possible. |
| 21:44.38 | Bradipo | All you need to get in from home is an SSH server on the outside; provided they allow outbound SSH from the network there. |
| 21:52.27 | Bonez39 | well, forget the Win shares..how about shares on linux machine.....not from win4lin.. |
| 21:52.44 | Bonez39 | Where would this SSH server be located? |
| 21:53.51 | Bradipo | The SSH server would be outside the network. |
| 21:54.13 | Bradipo | So, for example, if your ISP provides shell access via SSH, or you have an SSH server running on your system at home. |
| 21:54.28 | Bradipo | What do you mean by ``shares on linux'' ? |
| 21:58.16 | Bonez39 | oh, my linux box is named 'seth' and using samba I have 'tmp' and 'homes' shared...I can read from those directories, from my windows machine..over the LAN...those two directories are 'shared'... |
| 21:58.33 | Bonez39 | maybe 'shares' is not the right term..help me ..what would work better/ |
| 22:01.55 | Bradipo | Well, SSH access would be much easier... |
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