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| 00:15.21 | hans | what does this mean? |
| 00:15.23 | hans | xterm: unable to access pty device: No such file or directory |
| 00:16.53 | hans | (the xterm doesn't start because of this error) |
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| 02:02.03 | zbbeattie | anyone here? |
| 02:06.44 | hans | i was here |
| 02:06.46 | hans | but now I'm not |
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| 04:59.09 | bucky | thanks for the docs Chanserv |
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| 18:15.35 | fugalh | ugh. mandrake |
| 18:16.37 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 18:17.11 | fugalh | first day at work. all the linux boxes are mandrake and i'm just not a mandrake fan |
| 18:17.26 | Jayce^ | hehe.. where are you working now? |
| 18:17.27 | fugalh | 1000 percent better than windows, of course, so I'm not complaining too loud |
| 18:17.51 | fugalh | an engineering research team, BYU |
| 18:17.51 | Jayce^ | I think mandrake makes a good desktop.. lousy server though |
| 18:18.44 | fugalh | lousy anything on 300mhz |
| 18:20.26 | Jayce^ | heh. |
| 18:20.44 | Jayce^ | hope your using blackbox or something then. |
| 18:20.54 | fugalh | icewm |
| 18:21.15 | Jayce^ | that helps.. |
| 18:22.46 | Jayce^ | so have you tried the new vim alpha, with gtk2? |
| 18:22.55 | fugalh | no |
| 18:23.14 | Jayce^ | me either.. trying to decide if I'll try that, or kvim |
| 18:23.26 | fugalh | i haven't been impressed with gtk2, on my 500mhz box. I'm sure it's plenty pretty on faster computers, but it is very slow on mine |
| 18:24.01 | Jayce^ | I think gtk2 does look a lot better than gtk1.. but still is lacking in the looks dept.. |
| 18:24.31 | Jayce^ | oh yeah, you see, OSCON has a RUBY track :) |
| 18:24.54 | fugalh | are you going again? |
| 18:25.24 | Jayce^ | well, not the ruby track :) but I'm hoping to go to oscon.. trying to see if I can afford it.. |
| 18:25.31 | Jayce^ | or if I'm lucky, get work to pay for part of it.. |
| 18:40.48 | fugalh | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 18:40.52 | fugalh | heh |
| 18:43.46 | Jayce^ | uhhh |
| 19:00.13 | fugalh | (out of jealousy) |
| 19:00.59 | Jayce^ | hehe.. hey, you're a student, you get a 65% discount if you go.. |
| 19:01.16 | fugalh | does gnumeric do excel? if not, does openoffice? |
| 19:01.30 | Jayce^ | they both do, with caveats though.. |
| 19:01.54 | fugalh | caveats are ok |
| 19:02.06 | Jayce^ | so they both do, so does kspread |
| 19:02.18 | Jayce^ | and some fun perl modules :D |
| 19:02.26 | fugalh | heh |
| 19:02.54 | fugalh | well this is for my wife from the previous visiting teacher coordinator, so I doubt it will use complicated features of excel |
| 19:06.44 | Jayce^ | ahh, yes |
| 19:17.32 | fugalh | i can't get to the lilo prompt in this mandrake thing |
| 19:17.50 | Jayce^ | tab doesnt' give it? |
| 19:17.50 | fugalh | i just get the lilo (or something like it) boot menu but pressing tab does nothing |
| 19:18.00 | Jayce^ | what version? |
| 19:18.02 | fugalh | it's not grub either |
| 19:18.03 | fugalh | 9 |
| 19:18.12 | Jayce^ | hrmm |
| 19:18.26 | fugalh | esc did |
| 19:21.34 | fugalh | that's why I love mandrake so much |
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| 19:50.36 | levi__ | I just did the unthinkable. |
| 19:51.24 | levi__ | I purposefully installed the Bluecurve theme on my KDE desktop. |
| 19:51.44 | levi__ | Which I had to compile myself to make it work. I wanted it that badly. |
| 19:54.23 | levi__ | I don't see why there was such a fuss about it. It's nice to have Gnome and KDE apps running on the same screen and not looking glaringly different. |
| 20:03.48 | Bradipo | So, does bluecurve make KDE look more like Gnome? |
| 20:06.41 | levi__ | Well, it makes them look the same. |
| 20:07.21 | levi__ | And the overall look is somewhere in between what Gnome used to look like and what KDE used to look like. I like it. |
| 20:08.03 | Bradipo | Interesting. |
| 20:08.35 | Bradipo | I use WindowMaker and only setup KDE to show it to people interested in linux. |
| 20:17.02 | levi__ | I've got nothing against WindowMaker, but I like well-integrated desktops. |
| 20:25.02 | Bradipo | I have nothing against well-integrated desktops (except maybe Windows) but I like the lean functionality provided by Windowmaker. :-) |
| 20:26.42 | levi__ | KDE actually feels a lot faster than Gnome 2, believe it or not. |
| 20:30.25 | Bradipo | I can believe that. |
| 20:30.30 | Bradipo | KDE has been coming along nicely. |
| 20:31.00 | Bradipo | I would use it if I didn't prefer something more lightweight. |
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| 22:30.31 | Jayce | there I go :) |
| 22:33.15 | levi__ | There you go. :) |
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| 23:06.10 | hans | i've never set up automount before. what's the key? |
| 23:06.26 | hans | autofs? what's am-utils (the 4.4bsd automounter) and is there a difference? |
| 23:08.36 | Bradipo | I'm sure there is a difference. |
| 23:08.49 | Bradipo | Is autofs a kernel module/subsystem? |
| 23:08.54 | hans | yeah |
| 23:24.13 | Jayce^ | gah, what's the env var for your x display? |
| 23:25.14 | levi__ | DISPLAY |
| 23:25.29 | Jayce^ | ahh, thanks.. |
| 23:47.54 | TimRiker | DISPLAY=your.house.example.com:0 xv UglyMugg.png |
| 23:51.54 | hans | well, that was relatively painless and now I have an automounting floppy |
| 23:55.02 | levi__ | Sweet. |
| 23:55.18 | hans | hmm |
| 23:55.31 | hans | but if I take it out and put a new one in it still thinks the old one is in |
| 23:56.43 | levi__ | Well, there's only so much you can do to overcome the dumbness of a PC floppy drive. |
| 23:56.57 | hans | heh, yeah |
| 23:57.03 | hans | guess I'll have to bring the timeout down |
| 23:57.29 | levi__ | Who needs floppies anyway? ;) |
| 23:57.37 | hans | the missus. ;-) |
| 23:57.49 | levi__ | Who needs a missus anyway? ;) |
| 23:59.41 | hans | :) |