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| 12:43.00 | hans | 'night. ;) |
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| 14:27.25 | hans | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 14:27.33 | CosmicPenguin | hello |
| 14:34.18 | CosmicPenguin | Is Jayce^ awake? |
| 14:53.44 | hans | since they took out lame and use mad now it keeps crashing |
| 15:09.05 | levi | What does lame have to do with playing mp3s? |
| 15:10.30 | hans | hmm, maybe I'm confused. but whatever it is (maybe native xmms code) was gutted because of patent stuff |
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| 15:10.43 | levi | lame is a mp3 encoder |
| 15:10.52 | hans | yeah, it's coming back to me now. :) |
| 15:11.01 | levi | Though it seems mad, which I'd never heard of before, is a decoder. |
| 15:11.15 | levi | I think xmms used to embed mpg123 |
| 15:11.22 | levi | For playback |
| 15:11.30 | hans | hmm |
| 15:11.31 | CosmicPenguin | levi: mad is a pretty decent decoder |
| 15:11.42 | hans | CosmicPenguin: but it keeps crashing my xmms |
| 15:11.48 | hans | on files that mpg123 has no trouble with |
| 15:11.54 | CosmicPenguin | hans: I thought XMMS didn't support MP3 at all? |
| 15:12.04 | hans | i have a mad plugin |
| 15:12.08 | CosmicPenguin | hans: ahhh |
| 15:12.20 | CosmicPenguin | hans: try mpg321 - thats the mpg123 knockoff that uses the mad library |
| 15:12.31 | levi | When did xmms drop mp3 support? |
| 15:13.08 | CosmicPenguin | After Thompson Media got all litigious about enforcing their patent |
| 15:14.17 | levi | I must not have updated recently, because mine still plays mp3s just fine. |
| 15:14.50 | levi | Oh, are you using RedHat8? |
| 15:14.59 | hans | debian |
| 15:16.10 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - Now that I think about it, it was Redhat that dropped it, not XMMS huh? |
| 15:16.29 | levi | Yeah. |
| 15:16.50 | hans | i think I probably got mpg123 from non-free. maybe there's not an equivalent xmms package with mp3 |
| 15:16.55 | hans | other than the mad plugin |
| 15:17.11 | levi | It's always (or at least for a long time) been a mpg123 output plugin that actually did the mp3 playing. |
| 15:30.10 | hans | huh. whatdyanknow it's back. (just checked my xmms plugins again) I'm quite confident it was gone, but oh well |
| 15:37.35 | hans | anyone used qnx? |
| 15:42.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 15:43.20 | hans | just curious. looks like I'll be working with it this summer |
| 15:44.37 | CosmicPenguin | its a good OS from what I hear - multi threaded RTOs |
| 15:46.08 | hans | yeah, looks pretty slick. microkernel |
| 15:46.23 | CosmicPenguin | Its the RTOS of choice |
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| 15:46.57 | hans | device drivers can fail and be reloaded. i've heard that you can lose a hdd and (assuming you're dumb enough to do it or it's safe in your hardware) plug in a new one without the system failing |
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| 17:11.21 | Derek_ | what's up |
| 17:11.52 | levi | Yo |
| 17:11.56 | levi | I want sleep |
| 17:12.14 | Derek_ | me too. I got a new toy last night, so I stayed up way too late |
| 17:14.29 | Bradipo | New toy? |
| 17:14.49 | Derek_ | For graduation I was given a Sharp Zaurus |
| 17:14.53 | Derek_ | :) |
| 17:15.07 | Derek_ | life is good when you can run vi in your pda |
| 17:15.24 | levi | I like my Zaurus |
| 17:15.36 | Bradipo | Heh. |
| 17:15.38 | Bradipo | Very nice. |
| 17:15.45 | Derek_ | are you running the stock rom, or did you install open zaurus? |
| 17:16.58 | levi | I've got OZ installed. |
| 17:17.06 | levi | Though I haven't upgraded to the latest release yet. |
| 17:17.17 | Derek_ | you like it? I'm debating making the switch |
| 17:17.24 | levi | Yeah, it's MUCH better. |
| 17:17.40 | levi | The pda stuff has a lot of improvements. |
| 17:17.55 | Derek_ | cool, then I'll have to borrow a compact flash card from someone to install it |
| 17:20.20 | levi | It's probably worth buying one. You'll probably want to have some extra space to install stuff. |
| 17:20.57 | Derek_ | Well, as long as we're buying, I want the ibm 1 Gb micro drive. mmmmm... mp3s |
| 17:21.16 | Derek_ | but yeah, I'll have to buy a more reasonable one for now |
| 17:21.17 | levi | Sure, but it'll suck your batteries dry in no time. :) |
| 17:21.36 | Derek_ | :) |
| 17:21.42 | Bradipo | I have the IBM Microdrive for my digital camera. |
| 17:21.46 | Bradipo | It's well worth it. |
| 17:21.47 | levi | My iPod has mp3 duty, the Zaurus just does PDA stuff. |
| 17:22.01 | Derek_ | [covets Bradipo's drive] |
| 17:22.29 | Bradipo | I got mine over 6 months ago for $240, so I bet they have gone down in price. |
| 17:22.33 | Derek_ | This is the only portable electronic device that I have, so it serves all functions |
| 17:22.38 | levi | I don't take nearly enough pictures (or at high enough filesize) to need one. |
| 17:22.49 | Derek_ | hehe. They are still about $190 |
| 17:22.59 | Bradipo | Better than when I got mine. :-) |
| 17:23.07 | Jayce^ | wish I had one.. |
| 17:23.14 | Jayce^ | my handspring is having problems. |
| 17:23.16 | Derek_ | yeah, but you'd think it'd go down more in 6 months |
| 17:23.26 | Derek_ | what kind of problems? |
| 17:24.09 | Bradipo | I only ever use the maximum quality. |
| 17:24.13 | Jayce^ | a week or so ago, wouldn't turn on.. |
| 17:24.23 | Derek_ | might as well, when you have 1 gb |
| 17:24.25 | Jayce^ | set it in the charger base, then it 'popped' and reset itself.. |
| 17:24.31 | Jayce^ | lost everything. |
| 17:24.36 | Bradipo | Ouch. |
| 17:24.41 | Derek_ | ooo, that bytes |
| 17:24.49 | levi | Bradipo: How many megapixels? And is max quality still compressed, or is it a RAW/TIFF sort of format? |
| 17:25.49 | levi | My old Palm V seems to be dead now. It started only charging intermittently when in its base station, so it ran out of battery power and reset. And when I charged it again, it just kept resetting itself in a loop. |
| 17:26.21 | Derek_ | how old is it? |
| 17:26.38 | levi | Hmm, several years now. |
| 17:27.04 | Bradipo | levi: It's raw. |
| 17:27.08 | levi | At least 3 years. |
| 17:27.21 | Bradipo | So the images are pretty big. |
| 17:27.30 | levi | Bradipo: How many megapixels? |
| 17:27.31 | Bradipo | About 6--7MB a piece. |
| 17:27.54 | Derek_ | what resolution? |
| 17:28.21 | levi | My camera won't do its highest compression rate in automatic mode, and it takes too much time to select the right settings when it's in manual mode. |
| 17:28.34 | levi | Er, highest quality that is, not highest compresion. |
| 17:28.37 | Bradipo | I hardly ever use automatic mode. |
| 17:29.03 | Bradipo | 3084x2056 or something like that. |
| 17:29.10 | levi | I wouldn't use it if I had a clue about photography and manual controls that were actually convenient to use. |
| 17:29.30 | Bradipo | Heh, well automatic defintely is useful when you don't have time to fumble with settings. |
| 17:29.39 | Bradipo | But you run a risk of it focusing on the wrong thing. |
| 17:29.40 | levi | I've got a PowerShot S100, though, which is tiny and more about portability than shooting high-quality photos. |
| 17:30.11 | Bradipo | I have been bitten by autofucus before. |
| 17:30.27 | Bradipo | Spoiled an otherwise good photo. |
| 17:30.34 | levi | What camera model do you have? |
| 17:30.40 | Bradipo | EOS D60 |
| 17:31.03 | levi | Not too many digital cameras have manual focus. That's one of those SLR ones, isn't it? |
| 17:31.05 | Bradipo | I've had it for a while though and the new EOS 10D is much better. |
| 17:31.08 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 17:31.27 | levi | If I was more into photography, I'd probably get one. |
| 17:31.29 | Bradipo | My brother just got the 10D. |
| 17:31.39 | levi | As it is, it'd just sit on a shelf. |
| 17:31.42 | Bradipo | Heh. |
| 17:32.07 | Bradipo | I was never really into photography until I realized how much better a good camera does than a point and shoot. |
| 17:32.35 | levi | Even my little Elph only comes out when I go on a hike or bike up in the mountains, or need a photo of something to put online. |
| 17:33.04 | Bradipo | Like when you're out geocaching and need a quick picture of the area. :-) |
| 17:33.44 | Bradipo | BTW, anyone going to the activity on the 26th? |
| 17:33.51 | Bradipo | The geocaching day... |
| 17:34.15 | Derek_ | what is 'geocaching day'? |
| 17:34.19 | levi | Never done any geocaching. |
| 17:34.30 | Bradipo | Oh, I thought maybe you had. |
| 17:34.36 | Bradipo | http://www.geocaching.com/ |
| 17:34.50 | Bradipo | geocaching is a like a big treasure hunt, but done with GPSes. |
| 17:35.13 | Derek_ | cool |
| 17:35.41 | Bradipo | I've been itching to go since last summer. |
| 17:36.22 | levi | I've got a simple GPS, but I haven't used it much. |
| 17:36.38 | Bradipo | eTrex? |
| 17:37.23 | Jayce^ | I've got one of those yellow etrex ones.. it's actually pretty good... |
| 17:37.30 | Bradipo | Yeah, they're not bad. |
| 17:37.32 | Jayce^ | but things have been 'off' recently from the war |
| 17:37.40 | Bradipo | Have they? |
| 17:37.56 | Jayce^ | I couldn't afford a nicer one that could hook up to my computer.. that would have been nice.. |
| 17:38.11 | Jayce^ | yeah, they turned down the accuracy for non military ones during the war.. |
| 17:38.16 | Bradipo | That sucks! |
| 17:38.22 | Bradipo | No wonder my GPS has been acting weird. |
| 17:38.39 | levi | Yeah, mine's an eTrex too, I think. |
| 17:38.52 | Bradipo | I wonder if there's a way to use the military signal... |
| 17:38.56 | Jayce^ | too many iraqis etc. were using civilian models.. |
| 17:39.04 | Jayce^ | not without their hardware.. |
| 17:39.06 | tensai | I think it's encrypted |
| 17:39.06 | levi | Not without military equipment. :) |
| 17:39.16 | Bradipo | You know, a lot of businesses rely on GPSes... |
| 17:39.26 | Bradipo | i.e. construction, landscaping, etc... |
| 17:39.49 | levi | There are other ways to boost the accuracy without using military signals. |
| 17:40.04 | Bradipo | Such as? |
| 17:40.37 | levi | I don't remember the specifics. Something about an auxiliary directional radio thing you hook up to it. |
| 17:41.25 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 17:41.29 | Bradipo | I should look into that. |
| 17:41.57 | Bradipo | That would explain why some of my waypoints were off the other day. |
| 17:42.19 | Jayce^ | yeah, I think accuracy was reduced to 100 ft or something like that.. |
| 17:43.23 | Bradipo | Not sure why... they would probably just use a suicide bomber anyway. |
| 17:43.36 | Bradipo | And he would manually guide in the thing. |
| 17:44.06 | Jayce^ | well, their missles were one thing.. |
| 17:44.24 | Bradipo | Do they have any ICBM? |
| 17:44.48 | Jayce^ | no, but they had missles that could hit the bases.. |
| 17:44.53 | Bradipo | Oh, over there... |
| 17:45.11 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 17:45.27 | Bradipo | Well, I guess this could make geocaching more interesting. :-) |
| 17:45.32 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 17:45.39 | Bradipo | Indeed more difficult. |
| 17:45.55 | Jayce^ | hopefully they turn it back.. would be nice. |
| 17:52.53 | Bradipo | Yeah, I hope so too. |
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