| 00:19.51 | jayce | actually gnome isn't starting either.. blackbox works thankfully |
| 00:34.30 | hans | pity that, not being able to start kde. |
| 00:35.47 | levi | I'm running gnome 2 now. |
| 00:36.20 | hans | I'm running windowmaker still. :) fvwm came close to converting me but I just don't have the time to wade through its configuration file format now |
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| 00:37.32 | Bradipo | I used to run fvwm |
| 00:37.35 | Bradipo | It was nice and lean. |
| 00:37.52 | Bradipo | And also fairly functional if you have time to figure out all the cool configurations. |
| 00:37.52 | kryptik | man.. I just got of the bus with a guy that works at novell |
| 00:38.02 | kryptik | Says its the best software out there. |
| 00:38.07 | Bradipo | It is. |
| 00:38.09 | Bradipo | Didn't you know? |
| 00:38.28 | kryptik | No, I use it. I know how good it is, but not many appreciate it. |
| 00:38.33 | Bradipo | It's the number one file and print server on the market. :-) |
| 00:39.17 | hans | Bradipo: what do you use now? you haven't turned to the dark side have you? |
| 00:39.33 | hans | I know cosmic swears by fvwm |
| 00:40.15 | kryptik | I dont know what windows manager I use.. |
| 00:40.18 | kryptik | I think sawfish. |
| 00:40.34 | Bradipo | Heh. |
| 00:40.59 | Bradipo | The dark side of what? If you are referring to window managers, I use WindowMaker now. |
| 00:41.35 | levi | I ran fvwm back when there wasn't anything else, really. |
| 00:41.44 | hans | ah, then you haven't gone to the dark side. By dark side I refer to all-in-one super kitchen-sink-including does everything but manage windows well desktops. |
| 00:41.46 | kryptik | levi == old |
| 00:41.53 | levi | Well, there was twm or whatever, but fvwm was SO much better. :) |
| 00:42.03 | hans | heh. yeah |
| 00:42.16 | levi | And there was mwm, but you had to pay for motif back then. |
| 00:42.28 | kryptik | 'back then' |
| 00:42.30 | kryptik | :) |
| 00:42.36 | hans | When I started at CAEDM I had a heckuva time getting a good window manager. Problems compiling windowmaker and so on. |
| 00:42.48 | levi | Well, there's free Motif now, isn't there? |
| 00:43.03 | hans | I refused to use cde, and twm wasn't quite what I was hoping for. :) |
| 00:43.14 | hans | Or is it Lesstif? |
| 00:43.18 | Bradipo | KDE is too much for me. |
| 00:43.27 | kryptik | I love kde |
| 00:43.27 | Bradipo | And Gnome, it's well, gnome. |
| 00:43.35 | levi | There's Lesstif, but I thought there was a free Motif too. Not that anyone really cares anymore except legacy app folks. |
| 00:43.41 | Bradipo | If I had to pick though, I would pick KDE. |
| 00:43.46 | kryptik | Yay. |
| 00:45.01 | Bradipo | But I prefer WindowMaker because it has just about the right balance of usefulness with cleanliness. |
| 00:45.20 | Bradipo | Of course, WindowMaker is a window manager, and KDE is a Desktop. |
| 00:45.25 | Bradipo | There's a big difference. |
| 00:45.42 | levi | I'm liking gnome2. I also liked KDE3, but never had it installed here. |
| 00:46.04 | kryptik | Yea there is. |
| 00:46.25 | levi | The usability of gnome has taken a huge leap since the version 1 stuff. |
| 00:48.10 | Bradipo | I should have another look at gnome to be fair. |
| 00:49.18 | hans | yeah. I prefer window managers to desktops. My idea of a desktop is a menu and an xterm. |
| 00:49.24 | levi | Plus gtk2 is all antialiased and pretty now. |
| 00:49.32 | Bradipo | Heh, sounds familiar. |
| 00:49.46 | levi | My previous desktop was fluxbox, which I liked. |
| 00:49.49 | Bradipo | People look at my desktop (which is filled with 9 xterms and xchat) |
| 00:49.55 | Bradipo | And wonder what it's all about. |
| 00:49.58 | kryptik | Sweet. |
| 00:53.06 | levi | I'm using gnome2 with metacity and a menubar panel across the top with launchers for frequently used apps, a desktop switcher, clock, etc. |
| 00:53.30 | levi | And a lot of gnome-terminals. |
| 00:53.44 | hans | my wife used to be intimidated by the black boxes. Now she doesn't mind so much and I can even tell her over the phone to "type this in a black box" and we're in business |
| 00:55.22 | Bradipo | Heh. |
| 01:14.04 | hans | lets say I want to search the cddb database manually (i.e. I don't have the CD handy), any ideas? |
| 02:07.34 | kryptik | Man.. |
| 02:07.43 | kryptik | I am gone for twenty minutes |
| 02:07.51 | kryptik | and one thing has been said |
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| 03:21.05 | hans | it occurs to me that E. Smart couldn't have found a better time to be found. The media's so into the war that they probably aren't bugging her and family as much as they otherwise would. |
| 03:21.19 | Bradipo_ | True. |
| 04:02.06 | kryptik` | http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/03/27/sprj.irq.aljazeera.hacked.ap/index.html |
| 04:02.17 | kryptik` | Notice the utah city :) |
| 04:03.22 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, this reporter was misinformed. |
| 04:03.31 | Bradipo_ | DNS poisoning is very easy to defend against. |
| 04:03.38 | Bradipo_ | It just takes an administrator with a clue. |
| 04:04.02 | Bradipo_ | In fact, this kind of poisoning is really only possible if you are running BIND. |
| 04:05.02 | kryptik` | I wouldnt know |
| 04:05.20 | kryptik` | http://www.discover.com/jan_03/math.html |
| 04:05.25 | kryptik` | Thats pretty big news too |
| 04:05.32 | Bradipo_ | http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/notes.html#poison |
| 04:06.05 | Bradipo_ | I do, and it serves them right if they get hit with DNS cache poisoning. :-) |
| 04:06.22 | Bradipo_ | That URL I sent is a good reference about DNS poisoning. |
| 04:06.27 | kryptik` | Heh |
| 04:06.55 | kryptik` | I dont care that they got 'hacked', after those pictures they posted |
| 04:07.01 | kryptik` | that kinda ticked me off |
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| 04:30.53 | kryptik` | Hello you two |
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| 05:21.51 | Bonez39 | hi brailsmt |
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| 05:23.04 | Bonez39 | hi Jayce.. |
| 05:23.18 | Jayce^ | hey |
| 05:27.22 | Bonez39 | do you run a scanner? I am having trouble getting mine working.. |
| 05:27.44 | Jayce^ | yeah, I've got one. |
| 05:28.22 | Bonez39 | mine is an HP scanjet 4C..it worked fine under windows..with that HP scsi card....but no matter what I run, my system can't see that card. |
| 05:29.01 | Jayce^ | interesting.. I have an epson I like.. haven't used the hp's.. |
| 05:38.25 | Bradipo_ | http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,480031606,00.html? |
| 05:38.35 | Bradipo_ | Heh, lockdown at the Y. |
| 05:40.29 | Jayce^ | heh, yeah.. freak.. |
| 05:40.49 | Jayce^ | so why was this guy only planning on going on a mission after his graduation? |
| 05:44.56 | Bradipo_ | Heh. |
| 05:45.00 | Bradipo_ | Interesting. |
| 05:45.15 | Bradipo_ | I'm taking a photography class (for an art credit) and I don't think I would ever do something as lame as that. |
| 05:45.55 | Bradipo_ | I know a guy from my BYU ward that graduated before his mission... |
| 05:46.03 | Bradipo_ | Of course, he graduated at the age of 17. :-) |
| 05:46.18 | Bradipo_ | In Chemical Engineering, no less. |
| 05:49.12 | brailsmt | you talking about the guy that got arrested and then reported himself to the honor code office daring BYU to expel him? |
| 05:49.25 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 05:49.29 | Bradipo_ | I didn't know he reported himself. |
| 05:49.32 | brailsmt | he is a liar |
| 05:49.44 | Bradipo_ | Liar about what? |
| 05:49.48 | Bradipo_ | That he got arrested? |
| 05:50.25 | brailsmt | i came into my PoliSci class about two months ago and invited us all to an unbiased panel discussion, and he said that he really wanted both viewpoints represented at the discussion... |
| 05:50.47 | brailsmt | i read in the paper about two days later than the panel had 5 professors, all anti-war... |
| 05:51.02 | brailsmt | that doesn't sound very unbiased... |
| 05:51.10 | Bradipo_ | Not really. |
| 05:51.31 | brailsmt | he was stressing that it was really important for all viewpoints to be heard... i think he meant *his* viewpoint... |
| 05:51.51 | Jayce^ | of course.. |
| 05:52.06 | Jayce^ | he's a minority on BYU... so he has to take extra measures :) |
| 05:52.23 | Jayce^ | what's the name of the tool to set your gtk themes? |
| 05:52.49 | brailsmt | anyway, he has stirred a bunch of contention on campus, and i didn't respect him before, and I sure respect him a lot less since he is now a law-breaker, and no loner an upstanding citizen... |
| 05:56.29 | Bradipo_ | Anyone know if a Diamond Viper V550 is supported by XFree86 4.x? |
| 06:00.45 | brailsmt | beats me, is it an older card? |
| 06:02.04 | Jayce^ | v550? what chipset? |
| 06:02.15 | Jayce^ | TNT or S3? |
| 06:02.17 | Bradipo_ | I think it's TNT. |
| 06:02.24 | Bradipo_ | But I don't know for certain. |
| 06:02.37 | Jayce^ | TNT is I know, (nv and nvidia drivers) |
| 06:02.53 | Jayce^ | the s3's can do 2d, but the 3d isn't up to speed |
| 06:02.54 | Bradipo_ | I didn't know that there were two versions of the 550. |
| 06:03.11 | Bradipo_ | It is a couple years old. |
| 06:03.19 | Jayce^ | I can't remember if the 550 is like that too.. |
| 06:03.38 | Jayce^ | I have a 770 I believe, and I know there are two versions of it (when diamond was bought by s3) |
| 06:03.39 | Bradipo_ | It's only 16M |
| 06:03.48 | Jayce^ | mine is too.. mine's a tnt2 |
| 06:04.09 | Jayce^ | if it's a tnt, then the nvidia drivers support it.. |
| 06:04.53 | brailsmt | i heard about a lawsuit against the american library association by 12 female library workers who are challenging the ALA's refusal to filter internet sites and to allow porn in the libraries... the basis of the case? sexual harrasment... two liberal core stances pitted against each other... free speech v sexual harrasment... should be interesting to see what comes of the trial... |
| 06:05.24 | Jayce^ | yeah, that would be a good way to leverage the extremists in each camp |
| 06:05.27 | brailsmt | one will lose out... and that will be landmark... |
| 06:06.49 | brailsmt | as i was listening to the report on the radio, it made me sick, cited in the case are incidents of lude verbal abuse against the female workers, and public masturbation... and this is something that the ALA has adamant about allowing... |
| 06:07.06 | Jayce^ | dang |
| 06:07.39 | brailsmt | anyway... public libraries will not be getting my patronage until they begin filtering their internet access... |
| 06:13.48 | brailsmt | http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/03/26/fetal.homicide.ap/index.html -- here is a huge contradiction... |
| 06:14.01 | Bonez39 | I have another question..that I think has a solution. I am trying to load a network driver on another system, which is running windows... |
| 06:14.43 | Bonez39 | the system has no floppy currently installed..and the two floppy drives I have both have that ancient card type connector...not pins but circuit board edge...with the narrower connector.. |
| 06:15.05 | Jayce^ | cd? |
| 06:15.13 | Jayce^ | zip? |
| 06:15.20 | Bonez39 | there's only the wider connector on my motherboard...I know I had the floppy hooked up before..yeah, now I have a CD drive in the floppy's place.. |
| 06:15.33 | Bonez39 | no USB on system else I could load the ZIP drive.. |
| 06:15.54 | Bonez39 | I am baffled about the connector issue...you can't mix and match connectors of different sizes right? |
| 06:16.16 | Jayce^ | ahh.. well, I have a parallel zip.. but I dont' think I'm close enough for you to worry about that :) |
| 06:16.16 | Bonez39 | whatever size is there, that's what has to be used? |
| 06:16.41 | Bonez39 | I had this floppy install on this system..now though, I can't see how it could have been on there.. |
| 06:16.46 | brailsmt | here is that link to that law suit i mentioned... http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200303%5CCUL20030327b.html |
| 06:19.48 | Bonez39 | any suggestions? |
| 06:20.24 | Jayce^ | I'd suggest getting it on another media than floppy.. |
| 06:20.44 | Jayce^ | unless you have a parallel floppy (I actually have one of thsoe too, from a laptop).. |
| 06:21.23 | Bonez39 | I have the floppy that came with the card..that's the thing... |
| 06:21.28 | Jayce^ | ok, I really need to figure out how to set my gtk theme.. I can't even read gaim because the font is all screwy.. |
| 06:22.13 | Jayce^ | Bonez39: and this is a windows box right? you sure the windows disk doesn't have a driver for it? most do.. |
| 06:22.31 | Bonez39 | yeah... |
| 06:22.44 | Bonez39 | hmmmm, not sure...I should look on there.. |
| 06:23.23 | brailsmt | "One news report we saw told of a woman on the outskirts of Basra who made the mistake of waving to the Brits and was later found hanged." and ppl wonder there isn't open rebellion against saddam... |
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| 06:25.03 | Jayce^ | brailsmt: yeah, saw that one earlier.. they have a bunch of other reports where the people figting are only doing it because saddam's paramility groups are behind them with guns, making them right.. |
| 06:25.08 | Jayce^ | fight I mean |
| 06:26.02 | brailsmt | it is worse than that, they are taking children and threatening to kill the children if the fathers don't fight... |
| 06:26.17 | brailsmt | that is lower than low, and it pisses me off... |
| 06:26.59 | brailsmt | it is much harder to stand up for what is right when your children are being threatened with death... |
| 06:27.10 | Jayce^ | http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/27/sprj.irq.antiwar/index.html |
| 06:27.26 | Jayce^ | ooh.. I woulda liked to help these freaks with their "die-in".. especially moore |
| 06:27.46 | Jayce^ | *sniff* |
| 06:28.18 | Bradipo_ | Heh, what better way to spend it, than in IRC! |
| 06:28.39 | Bradipo_ | Of course, I'm sure since you are using IRC you will pop in from time to time... |
| 06:29.06 | Jayce^ | of course.. he has to make sure we keep playing BZ.. |
| 06:29.12 | TimRiker | yep. dialed into TI at the moment and proxying out. |
| 06:29.54 | brailsmt | i would like punch them in their faces... maybe knock out a few teeth... |
| 06:30.23 | brailsmt | i think all protestor arrested should be enlisted "voluntarily" |
| 06:30.59 | brailsmt | oh, but that is to iraqi... :) |
| 06:31.16 | brailsmt | err, saddamy... or something... |
| 06:34.10 | brailsmt | http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31749 -- where is the major news media on this? |
| 06:38.32 | Jayce^ | saddamy... riiiight |
| 06:38.36 | brailsmt | this is interesting... "One week into the conflict, the Fox News Channel has thrust forward to lead the competition in ratings. Figures from Nielsen Media Research show FNC averaging 5.582 million viewers, CNN 4.371 million, and MSNBC 2.154 million for total day viewing in the week March 17-23." |
| 06:38.59 | brailsmt | and FNC is in fewer markets than CNN... |
| 06:42.10 | Jayce^ | heh.. it's really refreshing to talk to conservatives online... I'm so used to hearing the overly outspoken protestors.. |
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| 06:43.02 | brailsmt | here is another one... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/03/23/do2305.xml -- from a "human shield" who changed his mind... |
| 06:43.19 | Jayce^ | yeah, I saw that one a bit ago.. |
| 06:43.51 | brailsmt | "Of course I had read reports that Iraqis hated Saddam Hussein, but this was the real thing. Someone had explained it to me face to face. I told a few journalists who I knew. They said that this sort of thing often happened - spontaneous, emotional, and secretive outbursts imploring visitors to free them from Saddam's tyrannical Iraq." |
| 06:44.11 | brailsmt | this is good stuff, who thought www.drlaura.com would have such good war links :) |
| 06:44.40 | kryptik[Voyager] | Who would have thought, brailsmt would have chanced being seen reading that site.. |
| 06:46.20 | brailsmt | drlaura has some good stuff... |
| 06:46.52 | brailsmt | i prefer Sean Hannity's radio show to hers, but she has some great points |
| 06:47.16 | brailsmt | hannity and dr laura air at the same time... |
| 06:47.38 | brailsmt | npr is decidedly liberal in its views... |
| 06:48.01 | Jayce^ | some shows, yeah.. I want to get some rush :) |
| 06:48.12 | brailsmt | rush is on npr?!?! |
| 06:48.32 | Jayce^ | no.. but that's what I really want it for. |
| 06:49.13 | Jayce^ | neybar and I caught some npr in his car today.. we both started laughing.. some flamer going on about "what the spotted owls are doing now that their habitat is being saved" |
| 06:49.44 | Jayce^ | this guys voice had an obviously gay sound.. made it that much worse.. |
| 06:49.47 | brailsmt | SLC has a great lineup of shows... Rush (10-1 - 570 AM), Hannity (1-4 - 1160 AM), Michael Savage (5-8 - 570 AM) and Michael Reagan (8-10 - 570 AM) |
| 06:50.32 | brailsmt | savage is a little too strong for me, but he has good points... |
| 06:51.20 | brailsmt | he keeps saying that he hopes he wakes up one morning to a baghdad weather reportlike this "It is 5000 C here, and Cloudy"... |
| 06:51.43 | brailsmt | tis a little too strong... |
| 06:57.16 | brailsmt | NAACP pisses me off most of the time... if they cared about really advancing colored people as much as they cared about democrats then blacks would be better off... http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/1/27/210410 |
| 06:57.19 | Jayce^ | yeah, a might bit.. |
| 06:57.49 | brailsmt | fscking hypocrites.. |
| 06:58.45 | Jayce^ | same thing with that singer who called Powell a "House Nigger" |
| 06:59.10 | brailsmt | yeah, yet they pratically fabricate the whole trent lott thing... |
| 06:59.52 | brailsmt | drives me nuts... how can they with a straight face honestly say they care about the advancement of colored people... |
| 07:00.43 | brailsmt | they constantly oppose Pres Bush, who has the most ethnically diverse cabinets of any president, probably in history, it is insanity... |
| 07:05.00 | Jayce^ | they're still bitter about spending all that money on gore in the last election, and he still lost |
| 07:07.35 | brailsmt | but they are directly cutting down or failing to support to very highly repected and placed "colored people"... they are working against their own goals... and all the liberals look the other way... |
| 07:08.28 | Jayce^ | no, they *are* working for "their" own goals.. not the goals of their people... |
| 07:12.00 | brailsmt | i stand corrected... |
| 07:12.32 | brailsmt | i had a real nice debate with an anit-war guy yesterday... |
| 07:12.41 | Jayce^ | oh? |
| 07:13.13 | brailsmt | it was real civil and stuff, there are some valid points to the anit-war ppl, but they most often cite baseless stuff like "no blood for oil"... |
| 07:13.30 | brailsmt | once we got past then the real good points came out... |
| 07:14.04 | brailsmt | he couldn't accept that the US is not arrogant by assuming responsibility to police the world... |
| 07:14.20 | brailsmt | he is fro the US btw... |
| 07:14.26 | Jayce^ | "with great power comes great responsibility" |
| 07:16.09 | brailsmt | good point, what I responded with was is that we have power to stop the suffereing of 24 million people, we can either help saddam oppress his own people, do nothing (which is the same thing), continue with endless sanctions that only the iraqi people get hurt by, or oust the bad guy... |
| 07:16.55 | brailsmt | i wish i had thought of spiderman... |
| 07:16.58 | brailsmt | :) |
| 07:18.44 | brailsmt | i wish i had logs of the whole conversation... it was interesting... he realized that his initial claims were baseless and not backed by fact... |
| 07:19.07 | Jayce^ | got farther than I ever have... |
| 07:19.25 | Jayce^ | I always seem to talk to ones who believe that all truth comes from micheal moore.. |
| 07:19.36 | brailsmt | well, they op in #vim was banning anybody who disagreed with him yesterday... |
| 07:19.42 | brailsmt | lol |
| 07:19.45 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 07:19.57 | Jayce^ | and what was his opinion? |
| 07:20.02 | brailsmt | and i PM'd this guy after he got banned... |
| 07:20.17 | brailsmt | very pro-war, same as mine, but far too emotional... |
| 07:20.58 | brailsmt | if ppl could just get past their emotions and look at facts than they would plainly see that much or their arguments are bad... |
| 07:21.33 | brailsmt | as a side note, i love to see what is happening with the dixie chicks... |
| 07:21.50 | Jayce^ | yeah, but that requires wanting to see the truth.. as well as willingness to admit being wrong.. |
| 07:22.00 | brailsmt | it is sending a huge msg to these hollywood elites that they are overstepping their bounds... |
| 07:22.13 | Jayce^ | hehe.. yeah, as much as I hate country.. at least that is one "hollywood" division that is doing the right thing. |
| 07:22.20 | brailsmt | not really, I just want to get people thinking about the other side... |
| 07:22.23 | Bradipo_ | Heh, what is happening with the Dixie Chicks? |
| 07:22.33 | brailsmt | sales are down 20% |
| 07:22.36 | Jayce^ | brailsmt.. did hans send you that email I forwarded him? |
| 07:22.41 | Bradipo_ | Why? |
| 07:22.46 | brailsmt | no... |
| 07:22.48 | Jayce^ | they've been getting blacklisted.. |
| 07:22.59 | Bradipo_ | I've never really liked them anyway... |
| 07:23.12 | brailsmt | they said that they are "very ashamed President Bush is from Texas" |
| 07:23.18 | Jayce^ | Bradipo_; their lead singer made a comment at a concert in europe, that they were embarrased by Bush.. |
| 07:23.19 | Bradipo_ | Wow. |
| 07:23.24 | Bradipo_ | Lamers. |
| 07:23.35 | Jayce^ | brailsmt what email you want me to send this? I think you'll like it.. |
| 07:23.40 | Bradipo_ | I'm ashamed they are labelled as country artists. :-) |
| 07:24.22 | brailsmt | yeah, a radion station in KC, MO (my hometown) put big ole dumpsters out where people could 'deposit' their dixie chicks cds... |
| 07:24.52 | brailsmt | others i heard of dug big pits and had people do the same... |
| 07:25.24 | brailsmt | another got a steamroller and steamrolled their listeners 'donated' dixie chicks cds.. |
| 07:25.40 | brailsmt | brailsmt@yahoo.com |
| 07:26.05 | Bradipo_ | That's too funny. |
| 07:26.35 | Bradipo_ | What made them think they could get away with such an absurd statement... |
| 07:26.50 | brailsmt | the other day I think rush was listing celebs and their education level... 90%+ only have high school diplomas... and we are supposed to take them seriously on matters of foreign affairs? |
| 07:27.15 | Bradipo_ | I wouldn't, but a lot of the people that they sing to might. |
| 07:27.17 | brailsmt | maybe it was hannity, i forget... |
| 07:27.37 | Jayce^ | brailsmt that rating is part of the email I just sent you.. |
| 07:27.47 | brailsmt | Bradipo_: they were playing to an anti-war european crowd... |
| 07:28.21 | Bradipo_ | Trying to gain favor, eh? |
| 07:28.40 | Jayce^ | dangit.. gotta make sure gpg-agent is started up before x.. can't sign messages right now. |
| 07:29.32 | brailsmt | Bradipo_: they said that they got "caught up in the moment", as if that excuses blatant stupidity... |
| 07:29.42 | Bradipo_ | Yeah. |
| 07:31.05 | Jayce^ | later folks.. going to bed.. |
| 07:31.06 | brailsmt | great headline at foxnews.com... :( |
| 07:31.23 | brailsmt | IRAQIS SEEN UNLOADING CHEMICAL DRUMS |
| 07:31.30 | Bradipo_ | Hmm. |
| 07:31.38 | Jayce^ | $hiz! |
| 07:31.45 | Bradipo_ | We need snipers to puncture those drums as they unload them... |
| 07:31.54 | brailsmt | i dare them to use chem weapons... can you spell TACTICAL NUKES? |
| 07:32.53 | brailsmt | just one and no more republican guard... |
| 07:33.33 | Bradipo_ | I think nukes should be a weapon of last resort. |
| 07:34.39 | brailsmt | i bet that if saddam uses chem weapons, we will drop one small tactical nuke and destroy a republican guard division... the tactical nukes are pretty small... |
| 07:35.01 | brailsmt | not megatons, but kilotons... |
| 07:35.06 | Bradipo_ | Oh. |
| 07:35.16 | Bradipo_ | I'm not well versed in warfare. :-) |
| 07:35.17 | brailsmt | they are meant to only take out a battlefield... |
| 07:35.22 | Bradipo_ | I see. |
| 07:35.24 | Bradipo_ | That's cool. |
| 07:36.09 | brailsmt | i wouldn't be surprised in the least if we do that, of course i won't surprised if we don't either... |
| 07:36.36 | brailsmt | yeah, the tactical nukes are smaller than the ones dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki... |
| 07:37.15 | brailsmt | yeah, with a full blown ICBM we could take out all of baghdad and a 100 mile radiu around it... |
| 07:37.29 | brailsmt | we wont be doing that... :) |
| 07:38.09 | Bradipo_ | That definitely wouldn't win the world over... |
| 07:38.28 | brailsmt | and it would usher in anoher cold war with the like of china... |
| 07:39.08 | brailsmt | baghdad would be called the "City of Glass" if we did that... :| |
| 07:39.49 | brailsmt | i would be interested in seeing the emp bomb we have... |
| 07:39.53 | brailsmt | non-lethal |
| 07:40.32 | brailsmt | drop them all over baghdad and all over the repoublican guard, and no more coordinated resistance... |
| 07:40.53 | Bradipo_ | emp bomb? |
| 07:41.04 | brailsmt | eletromagnetic pulse.. |
| 07:41.39 | Bradipo_ | Have we tested any emp? |
| 07:41.40 | brailsmt | it is strong enough to knock out any electrical equipment in like a 300-400 yard radiu... |
| 07:41.49 | brailsmt | Bradipo_: it is brand new |
| 07:42.17 | brailsmt | i read about in the paper the other day, last saturday to be exact... |
| 07:43.10 | brailsmt | radios, car starters, computers, radio transmitters, anything... pretty amazing, and after all that it is non-lethal... |
| 07:44.03 | Bradipo_ | Right. |
| 07:44.10 | brailsmt | on the other end of the spectrum though is the neutron bomb, which is the exact opposite, lethal, but does not damage infrastructure... |
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| 08:06.22 | brailsmt | i hate it when my cpu overheats... |
| 09:02.21 | kryptik[Voyager] | Dont we all |
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| 09:30.21 | brailsmt | here is anther great headline... www.foxnews.com... |
| 09:31.20 | brailsmt | "Iraqi Military Opens Fire on Civilians Fleeing Basra" |
| 09:32.10 | brailsmt | and we are supposed to believe the bastards when the open the f'ing mouths in the UN saying the we trying to exterminate their citizens... |
| 09:32.15 | brailsmt | bastards... |
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| 13:26.35 | hans | wow, a couple of weeks is quite the time-out for stuart |
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| 16:48.48 | kryptik | Wb |
| 16:48.50 | kryptik | :) |
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| 19:29.00 | kryptik | hello everyone.. |
| 19:29.05 | hans | morning |
| 19:30.20 | kryptik | afternoon :) |
| 19:30.56 | hans | evening if you're on zulu |
| 19:31.23 | kryptik | zulu? |
| 19:33.13 | brailsmt | greenwich mean time |
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| 21:03.14 | hans | woohoo. the no's are leading |
| 21:03.20 | hans | http://uug.byu.edu/club_name.php |
| 21:10.57 | hans | what is it? |
| 21:11.07 | Jayce^ | sco has tentatively agreed to do a Q&A with the local unix guys :) about the lawsuit.. now to see if they confirm |
| 21:11.20 | hans | ooooooh |
| 21:11.26 | Jayce^ | figure that could get some good attendance.. |
| 21:46.50 | hans | 15 to 10 now. I hope it's definitive so everyone can stop wasting their breath. :) |
| 22:12.04 | hans | ibot, spell naivity |
| 22:12.10 | | possible spellings for naivity: naivety Nativity nativity naivete |
| 22:12.32 | hans | where does the funny diacritical mark go? |
| 22:34.47 | levi | There's a double-dot thingy over the i and an accent over the final e. |
| 22:38.45 | hans | thanks |