| 00:07.55 | levi | What do people here use for ripping CDs to mp3s? I'd like something that does id3v2 tags. |
| 00:09.35 | Jayce^ | dunno about v2, but I use grip.. front end to the tools of your choice.. |
| 00:10.25 | levi | I used to use grip, just wondering if there's anything better. |
| 00:10.59 | Jayce^ | I think there is a KDE one that's similar.. I keep meaning to try it.. |
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| 00:30.05 | hans | Bonez39: got your message |
| 01:07.35 | Bonez39 | hans: thanks...I thinkthere's hope for at least getting it booted up... this system runs an AMD k2 400 mhz chip..I have to download a patch file to run, and then I think it will boot back up for me.. |
| 01:16.06 | hans | the chip needs a patch? |
| 01:25.31 | Bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.07 | Bonez39 | when I originally set it up..I had to download an .exe file, and run it..and then it booted up just fine..acted like the hard drive was failing though..before the patch was run |
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| 02:08.33 | hans | Bonez39: so it works now? is life good? |
| 02:17.55 | brailsmt_ | anyone know what might cause this? I turn on my laptop with it plugged in already and it runs for hours before it gets over 75C (tested today, took 2 hours to get to 68C), but as soon as i unplug the power cord, and then plug it back in, the fan runs constantly, with the exception of some brief times it shuts off... |
| 02:18.18 | brailsmt_ | this happens even if i turn the laptop on without the cord plugged in and then plug it in... |
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| 02:27.00 | brailsmt_ | like just now, I rebooted, before the reboot the temp registered at 88 C, i rebooted via /sbin/init 0 and restarted immediately, the temp now registers as 67 C... |
| 02:28.19 | brailsmt_ | well, looks like a bug in acpi... |
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| 04:14.27 | brailsmt_ | wow, compiling a kernel on battery, just eats the battery up... |
| 04:15.11 | brailsmt_ | it has burned 20% battery in the last 7 minutes... |
| 04:19.25 | brailsmt_ | but i found out that the acpi patch in the gentoo-sources kernel is over a year old... :( |
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| 04:29.22 | brailsmt_ | hows this to piss you off? http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/26/sprj.irq.mural/index.html |
| 04:29.44 | Jayce^ | I saw that earlier.. |
| 04:30.25 | brailsmt_ | makes me mad... no connection to Al Quaeda my $%^ |
| 04:31.51 | Jayce^ | heh... oh but that's not *proof* (I've already heard that from somebody) |
| 04:32.08 | brailsmt_ | yeah, it is not proof, but there is a strong correlation... |
| 04:33.17 | brailsmt_ | that makes me so mad, i wanna go over there and kill saddam... |
| 05:19.47 | Bradipo_ | Anyone have any experience with replacing /usr/share/zoneinfo? |
| 05:29.09 | brailsmt_ | nope |
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| 05:38.40 | Bradipo_ | Well, I just did it. |
| 05:38.42 | Bradipo_ | Kind of. |
| 05:38.53 | Bradipo_ | I installed the new files to /usr/local though. |
| 05:38.54 | Bradipo_ | Just in case. |
| 05:39.18 | kryptik | Mmm, the linkin park 2$ bill concert was dope. |
| 05:39.29 | Bradipo_ | Heh. |
| 05:46.26 | kryptik | "kryptik` The hand of the deity is upon thee, thy nick may not change" |
| 05:46.34 | kryptik | Why do I get that message? |
| 05:47.15 | Bradipo_ | Not sure. |
| 05:47.31 | Bradipo_ | Are you changing your nick too often? |
| 05:47.57 | kryptik | No |
| 05:48.04 | kryptik | Just tried to do it once. |
| 05:50.26 | kryptik | http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/misc/5in_LCD_Video_Module_3.html |
| 05:50.31 | kryptik | ...kinda cool. |
| 05:56.37 | brailsmt_ | for kryptiks benefit... |
| 05:56.50 | brailsmt_ | http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/26/sprj.irq.mural/index.html |
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| 06:01.35 | kryptik | Hmm, that is pretty interesting.. |
| 06:03.14 | brailsmt_ | and sickening |
| 06:04.06 | kryptik | Yea |
| 06:04.41 | kryptik | I dont know what to think about this war, anymore.. |
| 06:05.02 | kryptik | At first I was for it.. but lately, I dont know if it was really nessesary. |
| 06:06.04 | Bradipo_ | I think it was necessary the more I hear about it. :-) |
| 06:07.04 | kryptik | I did untill about a week ago, when I found out that north korea had nuclear weapons... |
| 06:07.58 | brailsmt_ | you hear what japan told NK? |
| 06:08.05 | Bradipo_ | I didn't. |
| 06:08.11 | kryptik | Nope, whats that? |
| 06:08.45 | brailsmt_ | in a nutshell, japan told NK "make one hostile move, and we will nuke you" |
| 06:09.14 | kryptik | Damn... |
| 06:09.24 | kryptik | Do you think they really would? |
| 06:09.35 | brailsmt_ | yes |
| 06:10.39 | kryptik | Do you think that the reason we went after Iraq instead of NK was because the oil that iraq has? |
| 06:11.01 | brailsmt_ | no |
| 06:11.04 | brailsmt_ | and here is why |
| 06:11.51 | brailsmt_ | we had control of Iraq's oil in 1991, but we gave it back up to iraq, if it was really about oil back in 1991 we would not have done that... |
| 06:12.01 | kryptik | Yea, good point. |
| 06:12.07 | brailsmt_ | we will not do any differently this time |
| 06:12.27 | kryptik | Do you think that we chose them, because we fealt that we needed to finish what we started back in 91? |
| 06:12.54 | brailsmt_ | i think we chose them because they posed the most immediate threat |
| 06:13.07 | brailsmt_ | after afghanistan |
| 06:13.34 | kryptik | Thats what I thought.. |
| 06:13.39 | brailsmt_ | and i don't think we 'chose' anyone, they volunteered |
| 06:13.57 | kryptik | they volunteered? |
| 06:18.48 | brailsmt_ | they didnt? |
| 06:18.51 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 06:19.35 | kryptik | Heh, I dont know.. I think I am confused. |
| 06:20.05 | brailsmt_ | yes they volunteered... lemme repost something from another argument... |
| 06:20.18 | kryptik | Sure. |
| 06:20.50 | brailsmt_ | i lost it, when my computer shut down... lemme check the logs... |
| 06:21.25 | kryptik | Ok, no worries if you cant.. |
| 06:21.33 | brailsmt_ | dang, i don't have logging turned on on this machine... and it was from a PM... arghh... |
| 06:21.41 | brailsmt_ | lemme see if i can recreate it... |
| 06:21.47 | brailsmt_ | it is long... |
| 06:21.53 | kryptik | Heh, thats fine.. |
| 06:21.54 | brailsmt_ | here goes: |
| 06:21.58 | kryptik | ok |
| 06:22.11 | brailsmt_ | the reason to go to war is an equation... |
| 06:22.50 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 06:25.35 | brailsmt_ | bad guy comes to power + bad guy invades neighbor #1 + bad guy gasses own people killing 100000+ + bad guy trains terrorists + bad guy funds terrorists + bad guy invades neighbor #2 + bad guy violates 17 UN resolution to disarm because he invaded neighbor #2 + bad guy kills ppl that speak against him + bad guy tortures people that disagree with him == war to oust bad guy |
| 06:26.15 | brailsmt_ | please keep in mind that that is an abbreviated list... |
| 06:27.39 | kryptik | Yea, thats cool. |
| 06:27.57 | kryptik | Takes a bit to work out thought.. |
| 06:27.58 | kryptik | -t |
| 06:28.00 | kryptik | though* |
| 06:28.36 | brailsmt_ | on another channel someone brought up that the UN sanctions against iraq supposedly killed 1/2 million iraqi children... |
| 06:28.58 | brailsmt_ | so therefore the US backed UN was just as bad as saddam... |
| 06:29.19 | brailsmt_ | there is a logical fallacy there though... |
| 06:29.44 | brailsmt_ | they did not consider the reason for the sanctions in the first place... |
| 06:30.12 | kryptik | Which was? |
| 06:30.16 | brailsmt_ | the UN did not just one day decide to impose tough sanctions on a peaceful nation/dictator |
| 06:30.50 | brailsmt_ | the sanctions were put in place in *response* to actions taken by Saddam Hussein and his country... |
| 06:31.14 | brailsmt_ | so even if 1/2 million children died, the blame does not lie on the shoulders of the UN |
| 06:31.37 | brailsmt_ | it lies on the shoulders of the people that caused the sanctions to be imposed... |
| 06:31.43 | kryptik | Right.. |
| 06:32.51 | brailsmt_ | most of the arguments against the war are not backed by facts, they are appeals to concience... |
| 06:33.07 | kryptik | Yea, I guess so. |
| 06:33.58 | brailsmt_ | what argument against the war bothers you the most? |
| 06:34.35 | kryptik | Nothing really, just that my dad mentioned that we chose iraq over NK because of oil.. |
| 06:34.45 | kryptik | I hadnt realized NK was even in the picture.. |
| 06:34.54 | kryptik | but that got me thinking, maybe they were right.. |
| 06:35.50 | brailsmt_ | here is the problem with NK... China |
| 06:37.24 | kryptik | i dont understand |
| 06:37.49 | brailsmt_ | China is a traditional ally with NK... |
| 06:37.59 | brailsmt_ | China has a HUGE standing army... |
| 06:38.08 | kryptik | Yea.. |
| 06:38.18 | kryptik | Nothing compared to us.. |
| 06:38.32 | brailsmt_ | military action against NK will likely include China, which means years and years of war... |
| 06:39.13 | kryptik | Yea, that makes sense. |
| 06:39.42 | brailsmt_ | the only way war will start with NK is if they start it by invading SK... |
| 06:39.59 | kryptik | Hmm. |
| 06:40.38 | brailsmt_ | we will pursue diplomatic solutions with NK, much like we did with USSR in the cold war, just (hopefully) without the cold war stuff :) |
| 06:41.52 | kryptik | of course. |
| 06:42.38 | brailsmt_ | unless the attack us or an ally first.. |
| 06:42.47 | brailsmt_ | this was Iraqs mistake... |
| 06:43.00 | kryptik | also |
| 06:43.16 | kryptik | I heard that iran had biological and chemical weapons |
| 06:43.53 | brailsmt_ | they have been tied directly to supporting/training Al Quaeda, which attacked us, thereby initiating this war 18 months ago... |
| 06:45.19 | brailsmt_ | this war was not started in march 2003, it was started on september 11, 2001 |
| 06:45.33 | brailsmt_ | people are so quick to forget that fact... |
| 06:46.11 | kryptik | Yea.. |
| 06:57.32 | kryptik | Well I am going to run for an hour.. voyager is on. |
| 06:58.55 | brailsmt_ | cya |
| 06:59.29 | kryptik | :) |
| 07:00.14 | brailsmt_ | btw, the weather is no good for biking this weekend... |
| 07:00.53 | kryptik | Ahh, well I wouldnt have had a chance to get my bike :( |
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| 07:56.28 | kryptik | Oh man.. |
| 07:56.36 | kryptik | That was a good episode of voyager. |
| 07:57.13 | brailsmt1 | there is an article on foxnews.com about b-2's, and the dateline for the story is about 30 minutes from my hometown :) |
| 07:57.31 | brailsmt1 | which is one of the two b-2 bases... |
| 07:57.49 | kryptik | Hometown? |
| 07:57.52 | nack | :) |
| 07:58.17 | nack | that is funniest when you do it... /nick nack |
| 07:58.19 | nack | :) |
| 07:58.25 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 07:58.30 | kryptik | I didnt understand it. |
| 07:58.52 | nack | i grew up about 30 minutes from whiteman AFB, in a suburb if KC, MO |
| 07:59.00 | paty | Sweet. |
| 07:59.03 | paty | Heh |
| 07:59.08 | paty | I dont like this nick |
| 07:59.09 | nack | whiteman AFB is in a town called Knob Knoster :) |
| 07:59.26 | whack | :) |
| 07:59.37 | kryptik | heh. |
| 08:00.26 | nack | i always thought knob knoster was a funny name... |
| 08:01.05 | kryptik | It is. |
| 08:01.15 | kryptik | Sounds like a seafood resturaunt |
| 08:01.47 | nack | it sounds vulgar... |
| 08:01.54 | kryptik | Yea it does. |
| 08:02.04 | kryptik | I will add it to my book of naughty words. |
| 08:10.44 | brailsmt_ | me too |
| 08:11.01 | brailsmt_ | i just usually wear a hat though... :) |
| 08:11.57 | kryptik | Heh, I cant stand them.. I get bad headaches when I wear em. I have two to three a week as it is. |
| 08:12.17 | brailsmt_ | really? migraines? |
| 08:12.36 | kryptik | Yea, real real bad ones. |
| 08:12.38 | brailsmt_ | migraines put me out of commision for at least 24 hours... |
| 08:12.40 | kryptik | They make me throw up. |
| 08:12.53 | kryptik | Yea thats bad. |
| 08:12.53 | brailsmt_ | i only get one or two a year though... |
| 08:13.00 | kryptik | Thats good, they suck. |
| 08:13.11 | brailsmt_ | on my mission i had on that lasted a 3 days... |
| 08:13.38 | kryptik | Wow. |
| 08:13.40 | brailsmt_ | my companion thought i was a wuss for not tracting with him... |
| 08:13.44 | kryptik | Now I havent had one that bad. |
| 08:13.56 | kryptik | You should have taken him out back and kicked his but |
| 08:14.01 | kryptik | butt* |
| 08:14.06 | brailsmt_ | of course, i was on the bed vomitting, trying to remember where or who i was... |
| 08:14.38 | brailsmt_ | that was the worst one i ever had... |
| 08:14.41 | kryptik | That sucks.. |
| 08:14.53 | brailsmt_ | and i don't care to have another one... |
| 08:14.56 | kryptik | I have a couple a year that put me in a hospital bed. |
| 08:15.00 | kryptik | I would hope not. |
| 08:15.12 | brailsmt_ | suicide would seriously be attractive if i got migraines once a week or more... |
| 08:15.49 | brailsmt_ | i went to a doctor once and he gave me some narcotic, it was nice... :) |
| 08:16.07 | kryptik | heh. |
| 08:16.10 | kryptik | They dont work for me |
| 08:16.13 | kryptik | I have to wait to throw up |
| 08:16.20 | kryptik | then try to sleep it off |
| 08:16.31 | brailsmt_ | it was a shot, and it put me out and i was woozy the rest of the day... |
| 08:16.45 | kryptik | Heh |
| 08:16.47 | kryptik | Cool |
| 08:16.53 | brailsmt_ | yeah, that is usually what happens with me too, but it soulnds like you have it far worse than i |
| 08:17.21 | kryptik | Maybe, I am pretty used to it. |
| 08:17.30 | brailsmt_ | i am getting a headache just talking about them... |
| 08:17.42 | kryptik | Heh, well no more then. |
| 08:18.09 | brailsmt_ | the absolute worst part is when it messes up your vision at te very beginning... |
| 08:18.33 | kryptik | On yea. |
| 08:18.59 | brailsmt_ | just thinking about that make me want to throw up, it sucks so bad because, it doesn't hurt yet, but you know that in about 20-30 minutes you will be in bed wishing someone would take out your brain... |
| 08:20.35 | kryptik | Heh, yup. |
| 08:21.57 | brailsmt_ | talking/thinking about migraines always gives me a real headache... it is really odd... |
| 08:23.01 | kryptik | Well we should change the topic then |
| 08:23.03 | brailsmt_ | i saw a commercial for imitrex (which doesn't work for me) once where the made the TV look like it does when your vision is all funky, i threw up... |
| 08:23.16 | kryptik | Oh man.. |
| 08:23.18 | brailsmt_ | yeah, but now that i have the headache... |
| 08:23.23 | brailsmt_ | :| |
| 08:23.29 | kryptik | Lol, bring it! |
| 08:23.46 | brailsmt_ | get it out of my system... :) |
| 08:24.28 | kryptik | The Washington Mutual ATMS run a slimed version of OS|2 |
| 08:24.52 | kryptik | I wonder why.. |
| 08:24.54 | brailsmt_ | you have gone to the hospital for them, huh? i imagine you have talked to more doctors than I about it, what do they tell you about the causes? |
| 08:25.15 | kryptik | Lack of sugar consumption. |
| 08:25.29 | brailsmt_ | they always tell me that they don't know, then give me a paper with stuff like avoid chocolate, greasy foods, etc... |
| 08:25.31 | kryptik | They want me to eat hard candy and frozen popsicles |
| 08:25.47 | brailsmt_ | really? does that help it? |
| 08:25.50 | kryptik | No |
| 08:25.55 | kryptik | They dont know what causes it |
| 08:26.20 | brailsmt_ | yeah, i wish they did... then they could start stopping them... :) |
| 08:26.25 | kryptik | No doubt. |
| 08:26.57 | kryptik | I actually used one of those magnet things, when I was six.. man, that worked so well. |
| 08:27.24 | brailsmt_ | what magnet things? |
| 08:28.10 | kryptik | I dont know what they are called, but they have these magnets with a cloth on the magnetic side. They are supposed to restore blood curculation to the brain. Supposedly loss of blood is the cause of headaches. |
| 08:28.50 | kryptik | http://www.phrack-dont-give-a-shit-about-dmca.org/show.php?p=60&a=14 |
| 08:28.55 | brailsmt_ | yeah, they say that constriction of the blood vessels to the brain is the likely cuase... |
| 08:29.01 | kryptik | Yea.. |
| 08:29.03 | kryptik | Thats it. |
| 08:29.34 | brailsmt_ | and they also tell me to drink caffeinated beverages when i get the headaches, since caffeine is a blood thinner... |
| 08:29.40 | brailsmt_ | as is aspirin |
| 08:29.57 | kryptik | Yea. |
| 08:30.13 | brailsmt_ | hence Excedrin migraine has aspirin and caffeine and acetaminophen (i think acetaminophen) |
| 08:30.20 | kryptik | I have been told to drink caffiene also, but now it seems like the cause of them. (When I quit) |
| 08:30.46 | brailsmt_ | excedrin migraine actually has been the most effective thing i have ever taken for migraines... |
| 08:30.48 | kryptik | acetaminophen is the scientific name for asprin and caffiene |
| 08:30.58 | kryptik | I dont think its an individual ingrediant |
| 08:31.10 | kryptik | It used to work for me |
| 08:31.12 | kryptik | but not any more |
| 08:31.48 | brailsmt_ | if i take two excedrin migraine while my vision is still hosed, then i don't throw up, and i can sleep it off better |
| 08:32.05 | brailsmt_ | anytime after that, and it doesn't do anything... |
| 08:32.35 | kryptik | Yea. |
| 08:33.31 | brailsmt_ | well, i am dwelling on it, suffice it to say, that i think migraines are the most painful thing i have ever dealt with... and have broken many bones, and had many stitches... |
| 08:33.58 | brailsmt_ | i would take a broken leg to a migraine anyday |
| 08:34.18 | kryptik | Not me. |
| 08:34.24 | kryptik | I have never broken any bones.. |
| 08:34.45 | kryptik | But I would take my headaches anyday, only cause I have become used to them. |
| 08:35.19 | brailsmt_ | i cannot imagine becoming used to migraines... |
| 08:35.43 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 08:36.29 | brailsmt_ | it just seems too much... but i guess everyone thinks that of something... |
| 08:36.44 | kryptik | Well I mean.. I havent gotten used to all of it. I hate not being able to sleep, knowing that, that is the only way I can get rid of it. Plus I hate how your hearing seems to maraculously improve, and every little mouse movement hurts like a mother. |
| 08:38.20 | brailsmt_ | amazing indeed :) |
| 08:38.31 | kryptik | Yea.. |
| 08:38.45 | brailsmt_ | you know what feels good for me when i am laying in a dark room with a migraine? |
| 08:38.56 | kryptik | What? |
| 08:38.58 | brailsmt_ | a cool wet washcloth on my forehead |
| 08:39.05 | brailsmt_ | over my eyes |
| 08:39.36 | brailsmt_ | it feels nice, the headache still hurts like the devil, but at least that feels pleasureable... |
| 08:39.37 | kryptik | That works sometimes for me |
| 08:39.48 | kryptik | same with to tennisballs in a sock behind your neck |
| 08:39.57 | brailsmt_ | really? |
| 08:40.17 | brailsmt_ | :_ |
| 08:40.19 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 08:40.24 | kryptik | Yea, just put two tennis balls in a sock, tie it, and then lay down against it |
| 08:40.38 | brailsmt_ | like a massage/ |
| 08:40.43 | kryptik | they will press up against both sides of the neck, but near the back and releave next tension |
| 08:40.43 | kryptik | yea |
| 08:40.51 | kryptik | I cant spell tonight.. |
| 08:41.04 | brailsmt_ | i can't type symbols... |
| 08:41.07 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 08:41.09 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 08:41.18 | kryptik | I always mess my faces up. |
| 08:42.08 | kryptik | heh. |
| 08:42.36 | brailsmt_ | no really, i can barely touch-type, so i try to practice a few minutes a day... |
| 08:42.42 | brailsmt_ | i am getting better |
| 08:42.51 | kryptik | Really? |
| 08:42.57 | brailsmt_ | gtypist is great |
| 08:43.05 | kryptik | I wouldnt know.. |
| 08:43.20 | kryptik | I havent taken any classes or used software. I just learned |
| 08:43.22 | brailsmt_ | yes, i have a bastardized hunt and peck mutation, that is innefficient... |
| 08:43.29 | kryptik | That sucks. |
| 08:43.41 | kryptik | :) |
| 08:43.55 | brailsmt_ | yeah, and to think i took a typing class in high school... i cheated my way through... |
| 08:44.06 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 08:44.08 | kryptik | I wanted to |
| 08:44.11 | kryptik | but I moved. |
| 08:44.19 | kryptik | So I never got to take one. |
| 08:44.25 | brailsmt_ | i would memorize 7-8 words in advance and then peek when typing them... |
| 08:44.32 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 08:44.56 | brailsmt_ | i got an A though :) i typed 50wpm for the final... |
| 08:45.12 | brailsmt_ | 45wpm was the A cutoff... |
| 08:45.21 | kryptik | Hmm. |
| 08:45.23 | brailsmt_ | pretty low standards... |
| 08:45.25 | kryptik | I wonder how fast I type |
| 08:45.43 | brailsmt_ | i type about 35 wpm on average... |
| 08:45.48 | kryptik | I dont have very good gramer or spelling when I go my fastest |
| 08:45.52 | kryptik | Hmm. |
| 08:45.58 | brailsmt_ | my wife is over 100 wpm |
| 08:46.03 | kryptik | Shit.. |
| 08:46.07 | kryptik | So is my mom. |
| 08:46.16 | kryptik | She works for the VA downtown.. she types all day |
| 08:46.18 | kryptik | everyday. |
| 08:46.26 | brailsmt_ | her fastest ever was 132 wpm on gtypist... |
| 08:46.46 | brailsmt_ | my jaw was on the floor... |
| 08:46.53 | kryptik | Wow. |
| 08:47.02 | brailsmt_ | yeah, my wife transcribes news shows, so she has to type fast... |
| 08:47.09 | kryptik | Thats cool. |
| 08:47.12 | kryptik | What do you do? |
| 08:47.32 | brailsmt_ | and if she average 120-ish wpm then she would be typing as fast as ppl speak... |
| 08:47.39 | brailsmt_ | kryptik: school |
| 08:47.42 | kryptik | Ahh I see. |
| 08:47.55 | kryptik | That is so crazy |
| 08:48.02 | brailsmt_ | she won't let me work until i am done |
| 08:48.08 | kryptik | Really? |
| 08:48.43 | kryptik | You have a profession in mind? |
| 08:49.05 | brailsmt_ | i used to work and do school, but it was tough on her and the girls, and my school, so she told me one day that she wanted to put me through school the rest of the way, and she has been adamant about it... |
| 08:49.18 | brailsmt_ | yeah, computer programming :) |
| 08:49.24 | kryptik | Sweet. |
| 08:49.32 | kryptik | How many kids do you have |
| 08:49.35 | brailsmt_ | 2 |
| 08:49.36 | kryptik | If you dont mind my asking |
| 08:49.41 | brailsmt_ | 5 and 3 years old |
| 08:49.41 | kryptik | Both girls? |
| 08:49.46 | kryptik | Wow. |
| 08:49.46 | brailsmt_ | yeah |
| 08:49.49 | kryptik | Lucky. |
| 08:49.52 | brailsmt_ | both gorgeous |
| 08:49.56 | kryptik | I have three sisters |
| 08:49.58 | kryptik | all under ten |
| 08:49.59 | brailsmt_ | both naughty |
| 08:50.05 | kryptik | I love them more than life |
| 08:50.07 | kryptik | yea, I bet. |
| 08:50.07 | brailsmt_ | both schemeing |
| 08:50.08 | kryptik | :) |
| 08:50.40 | brailsmt_ | all in all, normal little girls :)) |
| 08:50.54 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 08:52.17 | brailsmt_ | they are funny, when we put them to bed, we always say "ok, you have 2 minutes to talk and then i am taking away your blankets and/or spanking you"... invariably they shoot back "3 minutes" and my wife and just say "sure 3 minutes..." :) |
| 08:52.33 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 08:52.48 | brailsmt_ | it never ever occurs to them to ask for more than 3 minutes... |
| 08:52.51 | kryptik | You know though.. I dont know how anyone could disipline children |
| 08:52.54 | kryptik | I dont have it in me |
| 08:53.01 | kryptik | heh |
| 08:53.09 | kryptik | Well maybe you should suggest it :) |
| 08:53.15 | kryptik | Thats good. |
| 08:53.22 | brailsmt_ | are you crazy? |
| 08:53.24 | kryptik | If I ever marry, the wife will have to be. |
| 08:53.26 | kryptik | Heh |
| 08:53.36 | kryptik | What!? You dont think that would be a smart move? |
| 08:53.47 | brailsmt_ | no... |
| 08:53.58 | kryptik | lol |
| 08:54.33 | brailsmt_ | kryptik: when you have kids, it becomes easier and easier to discipline them the longer they disobey... :) |
| 08:55.32 | brailsmt_ | and if you don't enforce the rules, they very quickly learn that the rules mean nothing... |
| 08:55.34 | kryptik | I dont know. |
| 08:55.43 | kryptik | I bet thats true. |
| 08:55.50 | kryptik | I dont know if I want kids though. |
| 08:55.59 | kryptik | I love em, but I know how frustrating that can be. |
| 08:56.31 | brailsmt_ | at least with my kids, if they are doing something that is naughty but not too bad and we don't do or say anything, then the naughtiness escalates... |
| 08:57.02 | kryptik | Yea, I think that is a norm. |
| 08:57.22 | brailsmt_ | and sometimes it is really hard, because i remember doing exactly the same things when i was younger, and I remember how unfair i thought it was that my parents got mad at me for it... |
| 08:57.48 | kryptik | Of course. |
| 08:57.57 | brailsmt_ | and worst of all, I have a child that is...*gasp*...just like me |
| 08:57.58 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 08:58.03 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 09:00.15 | brailsmt_ | get this, we went to carls jr. today and got them a famous star to split, my 5 year old loves fruits and vegetables, well my wife and i watched while she took apart her hamburger, at the tomato, then the lettuce, then the pickles, then put the hamburger back together, and then get up from the table and she didn't eat another bite... |
| 09:00.20 | brailsmt_ | we laughed so hard... |
| 09:00.50 | brailsmt_ | how *normal* is that for a 5 year old? |
| 09:00.52 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 09:01.00 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 09:01.52 | kryptik | My sisters do that. |
| 09:02.16 | brailsmt_ | we will get her a candy bar at the store sometimes, and when she gets home, she will eat an apple instead and leave her candy bar alone... |
| 09:02.29 | brailsmt_ | it baffles us |
| 09:02.36 | kryptik | Wow. |
| 09:02.44 | kryptik | That is unusual. |
| 09:03.15 | brailsmt_ | we laugh about it all the time... of course we also are encouraging her to keep it up... |
| 09:03.42 | kryptik | Yea, of course. |
| 09:03.44 | brailsmt_ | its just so funny... |
| 09:04.02 | brailsmt_ | anyway... |
| 09:04.37 | kryptik | :) |
| 09:06.46 | kryptik | Well, I hate to bail on you, but I have school in 5 hours. Didnt go to bed last night, so I am pretty tired. Gnight. |
| 09:08.00 | brailsmt_ | g'night |
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| 23:33.26 | jayce | gahh.. just upgraded to mandrake 9.1 and I can't start KDE... |
| 23:33.31 | jayce | well, I can as root, but not as a user! |
| 23:41.37 | levi | Hrm. |
| 23:41.56 | levi | Time to install gnome, eh? ;) |