| 00:36.31 | Bonez39 | ok, I think I need to recompile and check this all more carefully |
| 00:36.34 | Bonez39 | hi hans |
| 00:36.56 | Bonez39 | back in 10 |
| 00:40.16 | hans | hwdy |
| 00:40.38 | hans | if apm is a module, will apm=off at boot time work? |
| 01:08.32 | Bonez39 | still here hans? off tuning in the tele or radio to listen to our Warlord? |
| 01:17.06 | Jayce^ | guess Bonez39 doesnt' support the decision :) |
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| 01:20.38 | HarleyPig | Anyone watch that broadcast? |
| 01:20.45 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 01:20.53 | HarleyPig | Sobering. |
| 01:21.26 | Bonez39 | which decision? |
| 01:21.33 | HarleyPig | Jayce^: ? |
| 01:21.52 | HarleyPig | Bonez39: Hussein and family have 48 hours to go into exile or we'll go to war with them. |
| 01:21.58 | Jayce^ | what? |
| 01:22.04 | HarleyPig | (them being iraq) |
| 01:22.05 | Bonez39 | I hate war...but I think it's the only present option....get in, clean it up and get out.. |
| 01:22.11 | HarleyPig | Jayce^: which rooms? |
| 01:22.20 | HarleyPig | Bonez39: It won't be that easy. |
| 01:22.21 | Bonez39 | closing on this machine, openng on my linux box...brb |
| 01:22.32 | Bonez39 | HarleyPig: I know...we'll be there a while.. |
| 01:22.38 | Jayce^ | sourcemage for one.. |
| 01:23.20 | HarleyPig | ? |
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| 01:23.35 | Jayce^ | bunch of heay liberals |
| 01:23.41 | HarleyPig | heay? |
| 01:23.45 | Jayce^ | of course it's slowing down some now.. |
| 01:23.51 | Jayce^ | yeah, you know what i mean |
| 01:23.59 | HarleyPig | Not any more. :> |
| 01:24.05 | Jayce^ | hehehehehe |
| 01:24.48 | Jayce^ | so HarleyPig, are you for or against bush's policy? |
| 01:24.56 | HarleyPig | I'm for it. |
| 01:24.57 | Jayce^ | bonez39 gave his opinion.. |
| 01:25.01 | Jayce^ | ditto |
| 01:25.21 | HarleyPig | I like the fact that Bush has basically been truthful with us. |
| 01:25.23 | Jayce^ | the freak has had 12 years to disarm, obviously diplomacy aint working.. |
| 01:25.39 | Jayce^ | truthful despite that people don't like him for it.. |
| 01:26.02 | bonez39 | does any big crowd ever love to have the truth? or do they prefer lies..that make them feel good? |
| 01:26.15 | HarleyPig | Well, as much as I don't like the idea of military shooting civilians ... I fully agree with Bush's stance ... you come out shooting, you're gonna get shot. |
| 01:26.43 | bonez39 | any of you using mutt for email? |
| 01:26.54 | HarleyPig | yeah |
| 01:27.02 | Jayce^ | no. |
| 01:27.06 | bonez39 | just trying to figure out how to make it send out to my pop and smtp server... |
| 01:27.10 | HarleyPig | on my server. |
| 01:27.31 | bonez39 | I loaded it the other day and figured out how to send mail and attachment even, but it failed to send... |
| 01:29.47 | HarleyPig | No errors? |
| 01:30.05 | bonez39 | oh, it said that it tried to send using some internal server.. |
| 01:30.35 | bonez39 | I don't have the errors right up now....but basically it wasn't sending them out via my pop or smtp server..but treated it like it should be handled internally. |
| 01:30.57 | Jayce^ | bonez39: so maybe it was set to use localhost instead.. |
| 01:31.35 | bonez39 | how do I change that...that's my question |
| 01:32.03 | Jayce^ | dunno, I don't use mutt |
| 01:32.17 | bonez39 | I hit G and it says Pop host not defined...that's what I want to do...is to define that host... |
| 01:33.33 | bonez39 | no worry..I'll work at it till I have it figured out.. |
| 01:33.37 | HarleyPig | bonez39: *shrug* Sorry ... I don't know enough about to answer that. |
| 01:33.42 | bonez39 | it's cool |
| 01:33.47 | bonez39 | back later... |
| 01:33.50 | bonez39 | thanks |
| 01:39.24 | hans | I support the president |
| 01:39.47 | Jayce^ | ahh, good... but we were wondering if you knew about bonez39's problem.. |
| 01:40.06 | hans | but he's "back later" |
| 01:40.11 | hans | ;-) |
| 01:40.29 | hans | bonez39: mutt doesn't do SMTP |
| 01:41.07 | HarleyPig | Oh! ... That's what he meant. I wasn't thinking straight on that one. |
| 01:41.39 | hans | bonez39: to access your pop email type exactly "cpop://yourmailserver/" (without quotes) i.e. you are opening the mailbox pop://yourmailserver/ |
| 01:42.05 | hans | you can specify that as a mailbox to check or even as your input... see the manual for more details |
| 01:42.32 | HarleyPig | Hey, it's picking up again. |
| 01:42.34 | hans | As for sending, your MTA (mail transport agent) needs to be set up right. If you're using debian that's exim |
| 01:42.44 | hans | it? |
| 01:43.34 | hans | btw, wb HarleyPig |
| 01:44.01 | hans | long time no IR"see" ;-) |
| 01:44.18 | Jayce^ | d'oh.. that was bad |
| 01:44.50 | hans | speaking of war, someone on uug opened the html email can of worms |
| 01:44.55 | Jayce^ | oh yeah |
| 01:47.47 | HarleyPig | hans: thank |
| 01:47.49 | HarleyPig | s |
| 02:03.48 | HarleyPig | what can o' worms? |
| 02:05.02 | Jayce^ | no kidding.. |
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| 03:24.53 | hans | tonight is a good night for some afro-celt, and some corrs |
| 03:25.21 | hans | and u2 |
| 03:25.36 | Bradipo_ | Why is that? |
| 03:26.35 | hans | Have ye not kissed the blarney stone t'day? |
| 03:26.50 | Bradipo_ | Do we have one in Utah Valley? :-) |
| 03:27.33 | Bradipo_ | I have been listening to Chieftains all evening, if that counts for anything. :-) |
| 03:28.06 | Jayce^ | yeah, same as the above mentioned bands.. |
| 03:28.10 | Jayce^ | enya too |
| 03:33.30 | hans | ah, yes. gotta get enya in |
| 03:35.06 | hans | hmm. looks like now would be a good time to rip my enya cd |
| 03:52.05 | Jayce^ | which one(s)? |
| 03:52.32 | hans | shepherd moons |
| 03:52.51 | Jayce^ | maybe I should find mine and rip them.. I've got more.. |
| 03:52.52 | hans | i have watermark and paint the sky on tape, as well |
| 03:53.39 | Jayce^ | I've got shepherd moons, the celts, watermark, memory of trees, and I know at least one more.. cant' remember the name.. |
| 03:53.55 | Jayce^ | and the LoTR soundtrack of course.. |
| 03:54.46 | Bradipo_ | Anyone know when the Two Towers comes out on DVD? |
| 03:55.01 | Jayce^ | not sure.. besides the net copy that is.. |
| 03:55.07 | Bradipo_ | I only got to see it once in the theaters (had a new baby arrive). |
| 03:57.00 | Jayce^ | I need to get a burn from my friend, he has a dvd rip.. that will tide me over until the special edition.. |
| 03:57.28 | Bradipo_ | Are they going to try the two release approach again? |
| 03:58.12 | Jayce^ | not sure.. but just in case.. |
| 03:59.46 | hans | Bradipo it hasn't even come and gone from movies 8 yet |
| 04:00.08 | Bradipo_ | Movies 8 isn't worthy of showing LotR. ;-) |
| 04:00.26 | hans | better than my tv. ;-) |
| 04:00.35 | Bradipo_ | Better than mine, for now... |
| 04:00.48 | Bradipo_ | If I had a decent surround sound stereo system, though, it wouldn't be. |
| 04:00.51 | hans | even if I had a dvd player... i'd rather see it a few times in the theater (even movies 8) for cheap |
| 04:01.01 | hans | but I saw it just over a week ago at jordan landing |
| 04:01.26 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, maybe I should head up there (you mean Jordan Commons?) |
| 04:01.40 | hans | nope. I mean jordan landing |
| 04:01.50 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, where is that? |
| 04:01.55 | hans | west jordan |
| 04:01.59 | Bradipo_ | Ahh. |
| 04:05.19 | Bradipo_ | Drat, that's a good idea. |
| 04:05.38 | Bradipo_ | I don't have a scanner though. |
| 04:06.04 | Bradipo_ | What is to prevent a company from stating that they never received a rebate offer from you? |
| 04:09.32 | hans | s/never/have already/ ? |
| 04:09.53 | Jayce^ | my brother has had them try |
| 04:10.12 | hans | ic |
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| 04:44.26 | hans | anyone ever networked over a serial port (null-modem cable)? |
| 04:44.41 | Jayce^ | not since the days of DOS games.. |
| 04:46.44 | Bradipo_ | I have networked over parallel before. |
| 04:46.46 | Bradipo_ | Using PLIP. |
| 04:46.50 | Bradipo_ | It wasn't terribly difficult. |
| 04:46.59 | Bradipo_ | Never tried serial though. |
| 04:47.22 | hans | what kinds of speeds over parallel? |
| 05:13.34 | Bradipo_ | Hmm, it's been a while. |
| 05:13.47 | Bradipo_ | The speeds were not spectacular. |
| 05:13.52 | bonez39 | hans.... |
| 05:13.54 | bonez39 | still around? |
| 05:14.11 | bonez39 | just curious where I type that cpop command? |
| 05:14.54 | hans | in mutt |
| 05:15.02 | hans | or do mutt -f pop://yourmailserver/ |
| 05:15.32 | Bradipo_ | I never tested the speed since my DSL was definitely the slower link. |
| 05:15.50 | bonez39 | very cool hans... |
| 05:15.56 | Bradipo_ | But, when I transferred stuff over the PLIP it made the rest of the system slow. |
| 05:16.02 | Bradipo_ | Probably handling all those interrupts. |
| 05:16.44 | bonez39 | I read that in the mutt manpage..but how in the heck would I know that -f to load a mail box...would refer to my pop mail box? guess something you just pick up, eh? |
| 05:16.53 | bonez39 | or is it lurking in the man page somewhere? |
| 05:19.23 | hans | you can use -f to load any mailbox, including ones right on your disk |
| 05:19.29 | hans | the pop:// prefix tells you it's pop |
| 05:19.50 | hans | you should really try using imap://yourmailserver/ instead though. much better |
| 05:20.04 | hans | and if you want to pull the email off the server look into fetchmail |
| 05:20.04 | bonez39 | will that open the same mail box? |
| 05:20.09 | hans | yeah |
| 05:25.59 | bonez39 | hans? interested in a troubleshooting task? |
| 05:26.23 | bonez39 | I am still fiddling with getting 2.4.20 to run right...after compiling .. |
| 05:28.12 | bonez39 | here's what I get...I have one compile which runs...but no modules are loaded when I boot into it. |
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| 19:38.08 | kryptik | :) hello, hans |
| 19:38.12 | hans | morning |
| 19:46.51 | hans | fyi, byu alum (or if you are student but didn't goto/watch the devotional), as of May 1st Bateman is released and a new guy takes his place |
| 20:08.44 | levi | Huh, wow. |
| 20:08.55 | levi | How long has he been Pres? |
| 20:09.05 | hans | 8 years |
| 20:09.16 | levi | That's the typical length? |
| 20:09.25 | hans | seems like a nice typical length |
| 20:10.12 | hans | i got a kick out of the day though. Of course, pres. Hinckley comes to take care of the business and the change wasn't announced beforehand |
| 20:10.40 | hans | so it's the regular people in line at 5am Utah thing. Then Pres. Hinckley only ends up speaking for about 5-10 minutes total |
| 20:11.44 | hans | "A hacker last week exploited a previously unknown vulnerability in Microsoft Corp.'s Windows 2000 operating system to gain control of an Army Web server, and the extent of the damage done is still unknown. " |
| 20:29.05 | kryptik | Damn.. is there a link? |
| 20:36.18 | hans | news.google.com |
| 20:37.53 | kryptik | K. |
| 20:41.58 | hans | where could I get a small MPG to test vls/vlc with? Anything but barney would work. |
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| 20:55.05 | kryptik | wb |
| 21:22.40 | hans | sometimes I like to visit #debian. It's that same thing that drives you to take a dip in a freezing cold lake on a brisk summer morning |
| 21:22.58 | kryptik | Heh. |
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| 21:53.04 | Mecworks | TimRiker: you in Texas? |
| 21:54.22 | Mecworks | hm. How's it down there? |
| 21:55.07 | TimRikerTI | raining. facist firewall. other than that it's great. ;-) |
| 21:55.24 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 21:55.38 | Mecworks | Did you hear? I accepted a postion at Novell. |
| 22:01.38 | TimRikerTI | Mecworks: congrats! you doing windows XP protuguese testing there too? |
| 22:02.53 | Mecworks | NO way! All Linux....They are porting a lot of their software to Linux and need a buch of Linux heads. |
| 22:03.05 | CosmicPenguin | Mecworks: are they hiring telecommuters? |
| 22:03.26 | Mecworks | Not sure. I was put in contact with them by word of mouth |
| 22:03.54 | Jayce^ | Mecworks: você fala português? |
| 22:04.17 | Mecworks | no - Japonese |
| 22:04.35 | Jayce^ | ahh.. was just guessing from TimRikerTI´s comment |
| 22:05.15 | Mecworks | Yea. I did a consulting job where I did some testing in other languages that I didn't unbderstand... |
| 22:06.05 | Jayce^ | heh.. interesting.. |
| 22:06.18 | Mecworks | I also did some Japanese testing. Much more productive 8^) |
| 22:08.34 | Mecworks | TimRikerTI: So, when do you actualy move there? |
| 22:10.19 | Mecworks | CosmicPenguin: I don't know what other departments are hireing there. I hear that there are others. The one that I have taken a position in had 4 spots. I believe they are all filled or will be shortly. Once I am there, I'll pass on any positions I hear about. |
| 22:12.40 | TimRikerTI | Mecworks: http://www.tcreeks.com/1308_neches_photos.htm <- closing on the 32st. should be moving right around then. |
| 22:14.21 | Mecworks | Nice! The thumbnails show up but the larger graphic does not... |
| 22:14.41 | Mecworks | but what I see is really nice. |
| 22:15.18 | Mecworks | So, is it a community like you're living in now? Is it a stand-alone hose? |
| 22:15.50 | Mecworks | s/hose/house/g |
| 22:27.38 | TimRikerTI | Mecworks: ugly Java script code. I'll snarf the images and put up another page. |
| 22:28.07 | TimRikerTI | it's a community (http://www.twincreeks.com/) that's much larger than where I am now. |
| 23:06.02 | Mecworks | cool |
| 23:35.36 | Mecworks | TwinCreeks looks nice. I don't golf but looks like a fine place for recumbent riding... 8^) (http://www.mecworks.com/~marc/round_valley/P0002051.jpg) |
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