| 00:09.09 | *** join/#utah brailsmt (~michael@12-254-134-241.client.attbi.com) |
| 00:11.17 | brailsmt | hats off to the sandy and salt lake police depts |
| 00:12.05 | levi | Anyone in front of a tv? The police are supposed to be holding their press conference now. |
| 00:12.24 | brailsmt | and especially the alert citizens that noticed "emmanuel" |
| 00:12.40 | brailsmt | i am listening to it on ksl radio over the internet |
| 00:17.30 | CosmicPenguin | There are more than a few unanswered questions at this point |
| 00:18.38 | levi | Yeah, they don't seem to be saying a whole lot. |
| 00:19.01 | hans | it's top US story on news.google.com |
| 00:20.45 | levi | Under the influence of drugs? What kind of a question is that? |
| 00:21.33 | CosmicPenguin | If you are walking down the streets of your hometown, why the heck wouldn't you take off and run? |
| 00:21.53 | CosmicPenguin | There are those who are saying that she was under the influence of drugs, so she was sedated |
| 00:23.59 | CosmicPenguin | The chief is getting a bit upset |
| 00:31.39 | CosmicPenguin | hmm... that was interesting |
| 00:35.41 | levi | I wonder why they're being so guarded in releasing information. |
| 00:39.33 | brailsmt | levi: that is standard modus operandi in police investigation... |
| 00:40.19 | CosmicPenguin | They are being a bit aggressive though |
| 00:40.43 | brailsmt | who? the press? |
| 00:40.54 | CosmicPenguin | The police3 |
| 00:41.10 | levi | Things do seem kind of odd. |
| 00:41.11 | brailsmt | how so? |
| 00:41.25 | brailsmt | re: being aggressive |
| 00:42.32 | CosmicPenguin | Lets say aggressively standofish |
| 00:42.54 | CosmicPenguin | Instead of saying "no comment" its more like "NO COMMENT. NEXT QUESTION, NOW!" |
| 00:49.06 | CosmicPenguin | Wehw - they are ending their coverage, just in time for the simpsons |
| 00:49.50 | brailsmt | lol |
| 00:50.03 | brailsmt | back to what is important... :) |
| 00:50.28 | CosmicPenguin | No, its important and all... but the sum of the day is "girl found, family happy" |
| 00:51.03 | brailsmt | no... "girl found, family happy, police pissy" |
| 00:51.05 | brailsmt | :) |
| 00:51.38 | CosmicPenguin | For several reasons... 1 - they concentrated most of their effort on a completely innocent guy |
| 00:52.10 | CosmicPenguin | 2 - I can't think of another reason, but there has to be one |
| 00:52.58 | brailsmt | just a few days ago Ed Smart was very critical of the SLC police dept for not focussing on "Emmanuel"... |
| 00:53.26 | CosmicPenguin | Wasn't he the same guy who stood up and said he was 100% sure that Richard Reci did it? |
| 00:54.13 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway - family happy, girl safe. Is survivor on tonight? :) |
| 01:33.21 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone else watching Fox? |
| 01:34.04 | CosmicPenguin | Some guy got a picture of this guy at a party a while ago with two women wearing veils - one of them may have been the Smart girl |
| 01:34.09 | CosmicPenguin | Now thats odd |
| 01:36.49 | brailsmt | ppl who sited them seem to be popping up out of the woodwork... |
| 01:37.13 | brailsmt | it will be interesting to learn what exactly happened... |
| 01:40.14 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think we'll ever know |
| 01:40.43 | CosmicPenguin | This thing will be buried deeper than Jimmy Hoffa at this point |
| 01:46.36 | hans | commercial on radio: deseret news will have a special 8-page edition at 6 at newsstands |
| 01:47.33 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 01:47.37 | CosmicPenguin | Thats fast |
| 01:50.43 | brailsmt | why do you say it will be buried? |
| 01:51.57 | CosmicPenguin | Well, if you were in their position, would you permit further investigation into the matter? |
| 01:52.18 | CosmicPenguin | Especially with the very odd circumstances here |
| 01:52.19 | brailsmt | yes, the family has cooperated from the beginning... |
| 01:52.40 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, the press is already asking if she was really kidnapped or not |
| 01:52.43 | brailsmt | what is so odd? |
| 01:52.49 | CosmicPenguin | Thats an odd question for 3 hours after she was found |
| 01:53.08 | brailsmt | there are lots of questions, and more speculation than anything... |
| 01:53.19 | CosmicPenguin | Not a whole lot of answers at this point |
| 01:53.25 | brailsmt | CosmicPenguin: not for the press which is always looking for a new "angle" |
| 01:53.42 | brailsmt | CosmicPenguin: it has only been a few hours... |
| 01:53.44 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know - the Utah press usually isn't that cynical |
| 01:54.30 | brailsmt | not to mention the police are saying that she is very sharp and is telling them information that they could only hope for |
| 01:54.53 | CosmicPenguin | So why didn't she run? |
| 01:55.14 | CosmicPenguin | but anyway - its all speculation. Heck, until today, I was convinced that her parents had something to do with her disapearance |
| 01:55.23 | brailsmt | there could be any number of reasons... 14 year old girls can easily be manipulated |
| 01:55.25 | CosmicPenguin | Shows what wild rumor and little facts will do for you |
| 01:57.18 | brailsmt | i don't hink anything will be buried, it has been public from the beginning, and the Smarts don't have anythying to hide... I am sure that they will not release some personal detail since she is a minor, but i don't see any other reason to bury this... |
| 01:58.51 | CosmicPenguin | I guess I'm just more pessimistic |
| 01:58.53 | brailsmt | they just said that she had ppl with her at all times, and that she is very happy to be home |
| 01:59.01 | CosmicPenguin | Thats her uncle that said that |
| 01:59.24 | brailsmt | yeah, i imagine he is closer to the situation than i am |
| 01:59.29 | CosmicPenguin | and more biased |
| 01:59.49 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm... |
| 01:59.50 | brailsmt | wow, you *are* pessimistic... |
| 01:59.53 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:00.07 | CosmicPenguin | I'm just cynical... the few facts that we know don't match |
| 02:00.17 | CosmicPenguin | At least in my mind |
| 02:00.42 | CosmicPenguin | Especially since an innocent man died in prison due to this affair |
| 02:00.57 | brailsmt | i just don't see any reason to assume some conspiracy until more facts are known... sparse facts don't mean something is awry |
| 02:01.26 | brailsmt | CosmicPenguin: no, he was in prison because of a parole violation... he burgarlarized the Smart home |
| 02:02.00 | CosmicPenguin | meh - All I remember is Ed Smart saying that he was 100% sure Richard Reci had something to do with it |
| 02:02.30 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - I'm not going to worry about it any more - its none of my concern, and no matter how passionate I am about it, it won't change anything |
| 02:02.38 | CosmicPenguin | Kinda like the war |
| 02:02.45 | brailsmt | he was wrong, i don't see how that supports a conspiracy... |
| 02:02.58 | brailsmt | yeah, i will just sit back and listen to the facts come in... |
| 02:03.12 | brailsmt | not like i can really do anything |
| 02:03.20 | CosmicPenguin | All I'm saying is that I fear that we will never know the facts |
| 02:03.50 | CosmicPenguin | Which is disapointing, of course - I want to know now! |
| 02:04.02 | brailsmt | yeah, me too |
| 02:05.31 | brailsmt | in the meantime i can't get this stupid FAT lab finished... |
| 02:14.00 | brailsmt | i cannot find this stupid bug... it has been two days now that i am looking for it, but I cannot find it... i am really getting pissed... |
| 02:16.41 | *** join/#utah brailsmt_ (~michael@12-254-134-241.client.attbi.com) |
| 02:34.50 | brailsmt_ | ==8352== Invalid read of size 1 |
| 02:34.50 | brailsmt_ | ==8352== at 0x402BFE3C: strtok (in /lib/libc-2.3.1.so) |
| 02:34.50 | brailsmt_ | ==8352== by 0x8049120: find_name_in_curdir (fat.c:453) |
| 02:35.20 | brailsmt_ | that is from valgrind... line 453 is "idx = 0;" |
| 02:35.44 | brailsmt_ | CC=gcc |
| 02:35.44 | brailsmt_ | CFLAGS=-g -Wall |
| 02:35.44 | brailsmt_ | LD=ld |
| 02:35.44 | brailsmt_ | LD_FLAGS=-shared |
| 02:35.44 | brailsmt_ | fat_test: cscope.out fat.c fat.h io.o includes.h |
| 02:35.54 | brailsmt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.59 | brailsmt_ | that is how i compile it... |
| 02:36.20 | brailsmt_ | i have no clue why i am getting these errors... |
| 02:45.48 | *** join/#utah fugalh (fugalh@andreas.fugal.net) |
| 04:52.15 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (~timr@205.208.222.223) |
| 04:52.15 | *** mode/#Utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 05:12.43 | *** join/#utah kryptik (kryptik@208.187.113.109) |
| 05:13.44 | kryptik | How is everyone doing tonight? |
| 05:52.49 | kryptik | That good, eh? |
| 06:04.29 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (timr@rikers.org) |
| 06:04.30 | *** mode/#Utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 06:04.51 | kryptik | Wb |
| 06:23.15 | Jayce^ | too bad you weren't there tonight folks.. |
| 06:23.27 | TimTooBusyRiker | no play by play then? |
| 06:23.29 | kryptik | Yea.. I know. |
| 06:23.36 | kryptik | :( |
| 06:24.02 | TimTooBusyRiker | for topic in $rememberedtopics ; do echo $topic ; done |
| 06:24.52 | TimTooBusyRiker | oh and add | grep -v "topics that suck" |
| 06:30.58 | Jayce^ | it was a fun discussion... |
| 06:31.13 | Jayce^ | especially the opening part talking about sco's issues :) |
| 06:31.25 | kryptik | Heh, a bit off topic eh? |
| 06:31.45 | Jayce^ | nah, just opening discussion.. |
| 06:33.13 | kryptik | Hmm. |
| 06:42.16 | TimTooBusyRiker | who was there? (as /me used to work there) |
| 06:42.32 | TimTooBusyRiker | did Bradipo show his face? |
| 06:44.37 | Jayce^ | no, no Bradipo.. |
| 06:55.09 | *** topic/#Utah by TimTooBusyRiker -> http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_Groups/North_America/United_States/Utah/ |
| 11:24.18 | *** join/#utah milo` (~Chatuser@1-0.brd2.noc.orem.fiber.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 16:08.16 | *** join/#utah neybar (~jalance@dsl233.sisna.com) |
| 16:51.34 | Bradipo | I have a class. |
| 16:51.47 | Bradipo | I wasn't there because I have a class from 6:30 to 9:00. |
| 16:54.44 | Bradipo | There was PLUG... |
| 17:01.17 | *** join/#utah kryptik (kryptik@208.187.113.36) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 17:14.41 | *** join/#utah Draganta666 (Draganta66@wnpgmb08dc1-res-110-160.mts.net) |
| 17:14.49 | *** part/#utah Draganta666 (Draganta66@wnpgmb08dc1-res-110-160.mts.net) |
| 18:23.29 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (timr@rikers.org) |
| 18:23.29 | *** mode/#Utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 19:01.37 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (~timr@rikers.org) |
| 19:01.37 | *** mode/#Utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:15.46 | *** join/#utah levi (~levi@ash.lnxi.com) |
| 21:49.46 | *** join/#utah hans (fugalh@andreas.fugal.net) |
| 23:11.37 | hans | phew. thank goodness for cvs |
| 23:11.57 | hans | $ rm .internet.cc.sw* .nat.h.swp * <---- tab-complete happy |
| 23:12.22 | Jayce^ | umm, yeah |