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| 00:05.13 | Jayce^ | everybody remember.. PLUG tonight.. |
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| 00:06.19 | kryptik` | Yea yea. |
| 00:06.21 | kryptik` | Heh |
| 00:06.44 | han_solo | anyone else here on byu campus? |
| 00:07.57 | Jayce^ | han_solo: you coming tonight? |
| 00:08.01 | han_solo | don't think so |
| 00:09.04 | Jayce^ | slacker.. |
| 00:09.32 | Jayce^ | you still wanting to do that site? and if so, will it be on your server? |
| 00:09.58 | han_solo | hmm. well I could do it on my server |
| 00:10.00 | han_solo | it's kinda slow |
| 00:10.10 | han_solo | but it could handle plug I guess |
| 00:10.31 | Jayce^ | hrmm.. ok, I'll look for other boxes.. |
| 00:10.47 | han_solo | if you need one, I'd be happy |
| 00:11.03 | kryptik` | Jayce^: I may be getting a server in the near future.. I would donate it if needed. |
| 00:13.49 | Jayce^ | cool |
| 00:15.02 | kryptik` | 1.6Ghz P4 |
| 00:15.16 | kryptik` | Could it be of any use? |
| 00:18.12 | Jayce^ | probably.. |
| 00:18.39 | Jayce^ | dangit.. I dont' know if anyone was able to get a key :( |
| 00:59.06 | han_solo | is there a fairly cheap place to get laptop batteries locally? |
| 00:59.53 | han_solo | Bradipo: are you the one that was ranting about fvwm a while back? |
| 01:02.27 | kryptik` | I would suggest utilitix but after what they did to Jayce^ I would have to place them under "PLACES TO NOT BUY FROM"... |
| 01:02.58 | Jayce^ | no joke.. |
| 01:04.30 | kryptik` | Sorry about that :( Feel dumb getting you into that. |
| 01:05.52 | Jayce^ | it's ok, only place around that seemed to have the drive I needed.. well, at least an older version of my drive.. |
| 01:07.12 | han_solo | Jayce^: you had a bad experience at utilitix? |
| 01:07.54 | han_solo | My dad got an old laptop from them. cd didn't work. he called and had them replace it - they mailed it out to him in vernal. he didn't say he had any trouble |
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| 01:10.19 | kryptik` | han_solo: I have bought dozens of things from them.. but when I suggested Jayce^ go to them, they kinda screwed him over. |
| 01:10.33 | kryptik` | I was born in vernal btw |
| 01:10.36 | Jayce^ | they quoted me one price (high) for a dvd drive for my laptop.. went in the next day, they raised the price on me in the store.. |
| 01:10.51 | Jayce^ | and it's an older/slower version of the drive I needed.. |
| 01:11.41 | kryptik` | that sucks |
| 01:11.47 | kryptik` | I might call and complain |
| 01:14.45 | han_solo | that's lame |
| 01:15.37 | Jayce^ | very.. |
| 01:15.41 | kryptik` | yuppers |
| 01:16.10 | kryptik` | w00t w00t.. almost done with my cna. that class is the pits. |
| 01:17.15 | han_solo | cna - certified nursing asst? |
| 01:18.07 | kryptik` | Hehe, no. Novells certified network/novell administrator |
| 01:18.58 | kryptik` | Best friends taking the other cna (certified nursing asst) |
| 01:20.53 | han_solo | my wife is a cna |
| 01:20.57 | han_solo | (nursing kind) |
| 01:21.53 | kryptik` | Hmm. |
| 01:22.17 | kryptik` | Was a hard to find a chick who was cool with marrying a geek? |
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| 01:36.26 | han_solo | laptops have a cmos battery to power bios right? |
| 01:37.23 | kryptik` | How else could the power it? |
| 01:37.30 | kryptik` | they* |
| 01:37.44 | kryptik` | I guess battery. |
| 01:38.13 | kryptik` | I never heard of anyone replacing a cmos batter for a laptop, though |
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| 01:49.53 | han_solo | brailsmt: should I spring for the $60 battery on ebay that ends in an hour, or hope for a cheaper one? |
| 01:50.53 | brailsmt | beats me, i don't know what reasonable prices are for laptop batteries... |
| 01:51.12 | han_solo | new from dell looking at 130 or so |
| 01:52.09 | brailsmt | how used is the one on ebay? |
| 01:52.54 | han_solo | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3400735008 |
| 01:57.21 | brailsmt | i don't know, I am hyper-skeptical of ebay and online auctions... |
| 01:57.43 | brailsmt | personally i would prefer to spend the extra money and get on locally that I know will work... |
| 01:58.02 | brailsmt | sorry, but that probably wasn't much help :| |
| 01:58.21 | han_solo | the question is will dr. clement think it's worth the extra money to get one locally, for a 330mhz laptop |
| 01:59.14 | brailsmt | is he paying for it? |
| 01:59.21 | han_solo | yeah |
| 01:59.24 | brailsmt | gee, that is a tough one... |
| 01:59.45 | brailsmt | what happens if he isn't? are you stuck iwth the whole bill, or just the difference? |
| 02:00.21 | han_solo | well, I don't think $60 is going to be hard to find again. if it were $40 I'd go for it. I wanna talk with him and see what kind of budget he wants me to stick to |
| 02:00.45 | brailsmt | you have his home phone? I would call him and ask him... |
| 02:00.49 | han_solo | probably the difference... but then he'd probably just cover it completely and I'd end up feeling bad. |
| 02:01.04 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:01.46 | brailsmt | i hate spending other peoples money |
| 02:02.13 | brailsmt | does it say that they are guaranteed to take a charge? |
| 02:02.42 | han_solo | our conversation today was somehting like... <why I need a battery> "just let me know and we can get one","ok, I looked on ebay and they're going for ~$40","Just send me an email where to click to pay for it" |
| 02:03.06 | han_solo | well, guaranteed not DOA |
| 02:03.37 | brailsmt | well, i would go for the one on ebay than, it does say, guaranteed to take a carge, though it isn't guaranteed to last long... |
| 02:04.14 | brailsmt | and just cross your fingers you (or Dr. Celement) aren't burned |
| 02:04.19 | brailsmt | but wait... |
| 02:05.18 | brailsmt | if you would like and things don't work out with the battery i could lend you my laptop so you could take some measurements... |
| 02:05.56 | han_solo | thanks |
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| 05:29.13 | kryptik[ZzZ] | Is PLUG over? |
| 05:33.51 | levi | Beats me. |
| 05:34.29 | kryptik[ZzZ] | I didnt get to go.. do you know what it was on? |
| 05:34.46 | levi | No idea. |
| 06:07.08 | Jayce^ | yeah, ended a while ago.. |
| 06:07.33 | Kryptik[Hk] | Ahh. |
| 06:07.37 | Kryptik[Hk] | Go good? |
| 06:13.04 | Jayce^ | yeah.. really interesting stuff.. |
| 06:13.13 | Kryptik[Hk] | What was it on? |
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| 13:59.31 | fugalh | insane. This laptop with wireless card in it gets an outside-addressable IP address, but my computer at home on resnet is NAT'ed. I never shall understand OIT |
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| 19:28.41 | kryptik` | Hey. |
| 19:32.54 | byron | howdy |
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| 21:23.41 | fugalh | :win 1 |
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| 22:46.46 | Bonez39 | anyone here? |
| 22:47.08 | Bonez39 | how do I get my apt-cache to show a kernel image behond 2.4.18? |
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| 23:03.52 | Bonez39 | hi kryptik.. |
| 23:04.00 | kryptik` | Hey. |
| 23:04.05 | kryptik` | How you doin today? |
| 23:04.12 | Bonez39 | I am trying to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.20... |
| 23:04.21 | kryptik` | Oh, fun fun. |
| 23:04.27 | kryptik` | Have you ever done it before? |
| 23:04.36 | Bonez39 | I am running debian...not sure how to go about this..whether I need to manually upgrade it, compile, or whether apt-get will do it for me |
| 23:04.44 | Bonez39 | I have compiled a few kernels..yes.. |
| 23:05.08 | kryptik` | Yea, well I would suggest going with what your used to. |
| 23:05.09 | kryptik` | M |
| 23:05.17 | Bonez39 | I just don't understand why apt-get doesn't list 2.4.20...I have spoken with other debian users whose apt-cache show reports 2.4.20 levels |
| 23:05.33 | Bradipo | Maybe you aren't using a source that has that kernel available. |
| 23:06.00 | Bonez39 | how do I find a different source that DOES have it available? |
| 23:06.04 | Bradipo | Are you running stable? |
| 23:06.10 | Bonez39 | is it something I need to alter in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:06.18 | Bonez39 | woody/stable...yes |
| 23:06.21 | Bradipo | Or are you running unstable, testing or some other branch. |
| 23:06.23 | Bradipo | That's why. |
| 23:06.32 | Bradipo | woody/stable most likely will not have that. |
| 23:06.57 | Bonez39 | really.....any way to get around it? |
| 23:06.58 | Bradipo | If you want the latest and greatest bleeding edge, then you need to modify your sources. |
| 23:07.03 | Bradipo | You can build your own. |
| 23:07.10 | Bonez39 | my sources, as in sources.list? |
| 23:07.15 | Bradipo | And woody/stable will probably never have that kernel because it is a locked revision. |
| 23:07.17 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 23:07.21 | Bradipo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.28 | Bonez39 | that's easy to do...I just need to know what to put in sources.list |
| 23:07.45 | Bradipo | I can give you some sources... |
| 23:07.55 | Bonez39 | I went to kernel.org, but couldnt' find anything about what to add to my sources.list |
| 23:07.57 | Bonez39 | ok... |
| 23:08.34 | Bradipo | There you go. |
| 23:08.35 | kryptik` | Question: Someone just told me that perl was programmed with c.. is that true. I dont believe it, but then what do I know!? |
| 23:08.47 | Bradipo | Now, just add those (or replace your current ones) with those. |
| 23:08.54 | Bradipo | Remember, this is bleeding edge stuff. |
| 23:09.05 | Bradipo | And you may end up with a system that doesn't work one day. |
| 23:09.12 | Bradipo | While the next day it will be fixed. |
| 23:09.45 | Bradipo | Basically, don't use those sources in production. :-) |
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| 23:10.55 | kryptik` | wb, fugalh |
| 23:11.51 | Bonez39 | cool, Brad...it's updating now.. |
| 23:12.02 | Bonez39 | hi Fugue.. |
| 23:12.05 | fugalh | thx |
| 23:13.16 | kryptik` | Anyone here go to PLUG last night. I want to know what it was on. |
| 23:14.10 | Bonez39 | when I want to search apt-cache for kernel images... is it apt-cache search kernel-image-2.4.* |
| 23:14.18 | Bonez39 | or do I need to be more explicit? |
| 23:14.56 | Bonez39 | trying to upgrade to 2.4.20.... |
| 23:20.01 | fugalh | apt-cache search kernel-image should be sufficient |
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| 23:47.46 | fugalh | sigh. missed the bus because I got carried away writing email |
| 23:49.34 | kryptik` | Heh. |