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| 00:04.09 | fugalh | is there nothing out there for managing system V system symlinks (i.e. /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d/)? |
| 00:04.30 | Mecworks | for which OS? |
| 00:05.34 | Mecworks | Debian? |
| 00:06.33 | fugalh | yeah, debian |
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| 00:16.40 | brailsmt | fugalh: gentoo has rc-update |
| 00:16.40 | brailsmt | :) |
| 00:20.29 | fugalh | i found it. update-rc.d |
| 00:20.37 | fugalh | but it behaves disturbingly like chkconfig |
| 00:25.21 | brailsmt | this 460 lab is boring... |
| 00:26.48 | fugalh | i.e. it's worthless for actually rearranging lists |
| 00:26.58 | fugalh | it's intended for installing links |
| 00:27.01 | fugalh | s/lists/links/ |
| 00:32.38 | brailsmt | :) |
| 00:32.41 | brailsmt | plug |
| 00:51.31 | brailsmt | i watched that Michael Jackson interview last night... |
| 00:52.18 | brailsmt | to borrow from Buzz Lightyear... "[He is] a sad, strange, little man." |
| 00:52.23 | brailsmt | :) |
| 00:59.49 | fugalh | schallee wrote a nice perl prog |
| 01:00.05 | fugalh | leave it to ed |
| 01:11.32 | brailsmt | can anybody get to students.cs.byu.edu/~cs345ta? |
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| 01:27.28 | fugalh | brailsmt: I can't |
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| 04:07.32 | kryptik | NOTE TO ALL: Ebay's Security Director @ WSU, Tuesday Feb 11th, 10AM in the Wildcat Theatre. Free admission. |
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| 04:17.49 | kryptik | NOTE TO ALL: Ebay's Security Director @ WSU, Tuesday Feb 11th, 10AM in the Wildcat Theatre. Free admission. |
| 04:17.54 | kryptik | Oops. |
| 04:18.27 | kryptik | Anyone know where I can find sourcemage cds. Must I dl the iso's or can I buy them somewhere |
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| 06:48.13 | Mecworks | 4This just in:1 There are only 15 Linux users in Orem... http://counter.li.org/bycountry/US%3Aut%3Aorem.html |
| 06:48.28 | Mecworks | Now, that's just sad. |
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| 07:47.05 | levi | i |
| 07:47.11 | Mecworks | j |
| 07:47.16 | levi | Oops. |
| 07:47.24 | Mecworks | hm |
| 07:47.40 | levi | You know, it's difficult for people with white-on-black displays to read your little newsflash. |
| 07:47.54 | Mecworks | hm. I understand. |
| 07:49.08 | Mecworks | did it show up as back then? |
| 07:49.24 | levi | I just saw 'This just in:' and a couple of blank lines. |
| 07:49.36 | levi | Until I highlighted it all. Then I could read it. |
| 07:49.44 | Mecworks | weird. The rest was in regular text. |
| 07:49.58 | kryptik | Heh, I didnt notice there was anything else |
| 07:50.07 | kryptik | Just thought he forgot in midsentance |
| 07:50.14 | levi | Are you using black on white? |
| 07:50.20 | kryptik | Yea |
| 07:50.38 | Mecworks | hm. Here it is again: There are only 15 Linux users in Orem... http://counter.li.org/bycountry/US%3Aut%3Aorem.html |
| 07:51.18 | Mecworks | (no 8c9o13l7o5r1) |
| 07:51.57 | levi | Apparently the color cancellation doesn't work correctly. |
| 07:52.03 | levi | Didn't see the closing paren on that. |
| 07:52.07 | kryptik | heh |
| 07:52.11 | kryptik | yea |
| 07:52.24 | kryptik | (no color |
| 07:52.38 | Mecworks | Yea, I guess not. It's actualy a grey color. There is no "color cancelation" from what I can see in Xchat |
| 07:52.54 | levi | That's weird, because I'm using xchat too. |
| 07:53.01 | levi | You'd think it'd work. |
| 07:53.03 | Mecworks | hm |
| 07:53.08 | kryptik | didnt even know xchat supported colors |
| 07:53.34 | Mecworks | The color bar is at the end of the text input feild. Click on the '<'. |
| 07:53.54 | kryptik | Yea, ok. |
| 07:53.56 | Mecworks | it also alows for special characters to be entered. |
| 07:54.17 | Mecworks | Like these: RÇÆÔäõúêìÛͼ¾½ |
| 07:54.20 | kryptik | sweet |
| 07:54.31 | Mecworks | yes, pretty cool. |
| 07:55.10 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 07:55.15 | Mecworks | I see all the colors. So, maybe it's a theme you two have set up that changes the color display capability. Or hides colors. |
| 07:55.38 | levi | Maybe it's the OS X X11 server. |
| 07:55.44 | Mecworks | possibly. |
| 07:55.56 | levi | I don't have the special characters you listed in my font. |
| 07:56.02 | Mecworks | hm |
| 07:56.21 | Mecworks | bummer |
| 07:56.51 | levi | I don't really miss them. |
| 07:56.59 | Mecworks | So, when you bring up the ASCII chart, are most of the charaters squares then? |
| 07:57.12 | levi | No, they're just blank. |
| 07:57.16 | Mecworks | hm |
| 07:57.59 | Mecworks | yea, you don't need to use them unless you need to day I want some Japanese ¥ (yen) |
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| 14:03.09 | Bonez39 | anyone here at the moment? |
| 14:03.26 | Bonez39 | fugalh: I finally got the /home dilemma worked out... |
| 14:08.52 | fugalh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.56 | Bonez39 | yes...I think, just one problem...and a couple more questions |
| 14:10.17 | Bonez39 | now, any writes to or reads from /home go to /dev/hda7/home, which is what I wanted. |
| 14:10.28 | Bonez39 | the trouble is that space occupied by /dev/hda1/home |
| 14:10.52 | Bonez39 | how do I clear it out? If I try to umount /dev/hda7/home or umount /home I get "device busy" message |
| 14:12.04 | Bonez39 | also, before making this move, I had pilot-link working....with pilot-xfer...now after downloading 0.11.7 and trying to install it..I get error messages that it can't find GTK...despite my reinstalling GTK+-2.2.0 ...it can't see the variable..in the path..how do I resolve that problem? |
| 14:12.23 | Bonez39 | do I ask complex questions, or what? |
| 14:13.40 | fugalh | can you paste the output of "mount" ? |
| 14:14.08 | Bonez39 | yeah, hold on... |
| 14:16.20 | Bonez39 | scott@sanchiro:~$ mount |
| 14:16.20 | Bonez39 | /dev/hda1 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 14:16.20 | Bonez39 | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 14:16.20 | Bonez39 | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) |
| 14:16.20 | Bonez39 | none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) |
| 14:16.21 | Bonez39 | /dev/hda7 on /home type ext2 (rw) |
| 14:16.23 | Bonez39 | scott@sanchiro:~$ |
| 14:16.28 | Bonez39 | I hope I don't get kicked... |
| 14:16.32 | Bonez39 | anyway, there it is... |
| 14:16.58 | Bonez39 | is that what you needed? |
| 14:17.10 | fugalh | ok, now I see. so your old /home on /dev/hda1 is not its own partition, just part of / |
| 14:18.07 | Bonez39 | right...it's a branch off / |
| 14:18.11 | fugalh | if you can't unmount /home you might have to go into single user mode. try closing all programs that might have open files in /home and cd to / or somewhere not under /home |
| 14:18.21 | Bonez39 | someone just told me that single user mode is needed.... |
| 14:18.24 | fugalh | if that doesn't work, do you know how to get into single user mode? |
| 14:18.31 | Bonez39 | yeah, init 1 |
| 14:18.42 | fugalh | when there, unmount the /dev/hda7 /home |
| 14:18.49 | Bonez39 | right? then umount at that point....and delete /dev/hda1/home, then reboot |
| 14:19.06 | fugalh | then rm -r /home, or if you want to keep it around long enough to copy things over mv it somewhere else |
| 14:19.24 | Bonez39 | ok...I'll try that...I have copied it all over to the mounted location.... |
| 14:19.42 | fugalh | good luck :) |
| 14:19.46 | Bonez39 | it's so simple, I overlooked that the system would be tying it up, when in multiuser mode.. |
| 14:19.47 | Bonez39 | thanks. |
| 14:19.51 | Bonez39 | gotta run now... |
| 14:19.53 | fugalh | should be a straightforward operation |
| 14:19.57 | Bonez39 | ok |
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| 21:00.10 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 21:01.50 | fugalh | anyone have experience with a linksys wpc11v3 'instant wireless' card? |
| 21:04.43 | Jayce^ | nope.. |
| 21:04.52 | Jayce^ | orinoco or cisco only here. |
| 21:13.14 | fugalh | Jayce^: prismII-based cards? |
| 21:13.18 | fugalh | or orinoco cards? |
| 21:13.47 | Jayce^ | orinoco |
| 21:14.23 | Jayce^ | that's all I have right now. |
| 21:16.49 | fugalh | i must be on my tenth kernel compile since yesterday morning |
| 21:20.51 | Jayce^ | ouch |
| 21:21.27 | fugalh | at 300mhz no less. ;) If I toyed with the idea of a source distro on this thing all such hallucinations have disappeared |
| 21:22.15 | Jayce^ | hey, couple guys I know run on that speed.. use distcc, I think brailsmt was doign that too |
| 21:27.03 | Jayce^ | you definately notice the difference the optimizations make on that lower end of system. |
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| 22:21.22 | TimRiker | how was the UUG installfest? |
| 22:34.53 | fugalh | grr. all the way through kernel and most modules, and the very modules I'm trying to compile don't work because gcc 3.2 chokes on it (blame the code not the compiler) |