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| 00:10.40 | Jayce^ | pong |
| 00:11.04 | fugalh | odd. I'm ssh'ed into my server that's not on BYU's network, running a console irc client |
| 00:11.06 | fugalh | no lag |
| 00:11.36 | fugalh | but xchat is way lagged. must be something with BYU's network, but doesn't seem to affect other internat traffic |
| 00:11.51 | levi_ | You and your xchat weirdness. |
| 00:11.56 | fugalh | not even internet traffic |
| 00:11.58 | levi_ | It works fine for me! |
| 00:12.12 | fugalh | :) i don't doubt xchat works fine. I suspect something about the network |
| 00:12.25 | levi | You and your silly BYU network. |
| 00:12.30 | fugalh | lol |
| 00:12.56 | han_solo | but there's lots of lag over here |
| 00:13.24 | fugalh | well hello han_solo, nice of you to show up |
| 00:16.54 | fugalh | he has a hard time with those, doesn't he? |
| 00:17.02 | fugalh | kind of like me and pencils |
| 00:17.21 | Jayce^ | he chews his terminals? wow.. |
| 00:17.23 | Jayce^ | shocking :) |
| 00:17.37 | fugalh | heh. no, I don't chew them. I lose them. |
| 00:17.46 | fugalh | go through a couple of packs a semester |
| 00:20.47 | Jayce^ | --- Ping reply from fugalh : 0.71 second(s) |
| 00:20.51 | Jayce^ | --- Ping reply from han_solo : 415.17 second(s) |
| 00:20.58 | Jayce^ | nope, no lag here folks.. |
| 00:21.24 | fugalh | 415 seconds is actually fairly good. I've been averaging something like 600 |
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| 01:16.25 | fugalh | jayce^: your server keeps kicking me off |
| 01:20.14 | Jayce^ | my server? oh... that's strange.. |
| 01:21.04 | fugalh | yeah, not exactly kicking me off - just stops responding. have to open a new ssh |
| 01:21.23 | Bradipo | Could be a firewall issue. |
| 01:21.27 | Bradipo | Are you going through NAT? |
| 01:23.10 | fugalh | yeah, BYU's nat |
| 01:23.26 | Bradipo | That would do it. |
| 01:23.38 | Bradipo | The NAT state is probably timing out. |
| 01:23.48 | Bradipo | NAT sucks. |
| 01:24.14 | fugalh | hmm. maybe that's my irc problem too? |
| 01:24.40 | fugalh | ok, any shell scripting gurus here? how do you deal with spaces in filenames |
| 01:24.44 | Bradipo | Not only that, I don't think BYU should be using NAT given that they have an entire /16 |
| 01:24.54 | Bradipo | That's lame to NAT when you have a Class B block of addresses. |
| 01:25.09 | fugalh | and other illegal characters |
| 01:25.25 | Bradipo | find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 cmds |
| 01:26.04 | Bradipo | -print0 tells print to use \000 instead of \020 as the delimiter |
| 01:26.50 | Bradipo | Er find. |
| 01:31.22 | fugalh | ahh. there we go. thanks |
| 01:31.47 | Bradipo | I hate files with spaces in them. :-) |
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| 02:10.44 | Bain | hi |
| 02:10.51 | Bain | this channel about utah glx? |
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| 16:23.11 | Bonez39 | greetings, Levi |
| 16:36.04 | levi_ | Yo. |
| 16:53.17 | levi_ | What's up? |
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| 17:01.15 | Bradipo | Welcome. |
| 17:01.18 | JeffLitster | Hey |
| 17:04.17 | Bradipo | Bonez39: Did you get your drive repartitioned finally? |
| 17:10.30 | Bonez39 | yeah, I did...with a few commands...mkfs and mkswap and all that...I have it working... |
| 17:10.40 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 17:10.47 | Bonez39 | I am not out of fthe woods yet though.. |
| 17:10.59 | Bradipo | WHat's left? |
| 17:11.09 | Bonez39 | still have to figure out how to move a few of my directories over to the new partition now...so that my debian drive doesn't run out of room |
| 17:11.16 | Bonez39 | it's at 98% usage now..which scares me |
| 17:11.32 | Bonez39 | any ideas? |
| 17:11.56 | Bradipo | That's pretty easy. |
| 17:12.01 | Bradipo | Do you know which files you want to move? |
| 17:12.08 | Bonez39 | I am confused too, since when I run mount -a ,despite there being several entries in my /etc/fstab file, they don't all show up the next time I run mount |
| 17:12.21 | Bradipo | Maybe they failed to mount. |
| 17:12.22 | brailsmt_ | is the internet currently having troubles? |
| 17:12.31 | Bonez39 | I don't care which directories or folders..I guess what I should do first is clear out any stuff I don't need on my system |
| 17:12.44 | Bradipo | brailsmt_: Not that I'm aware of. |
| 17:12.45 | brailsmt_ | i can't get to google, byu.edu, gentoo.org, sf.net, etc... |
| 17:13.01 | Bradipo | I got to BYU fine. |
| 17:13.08 | Bonez39 | on the failed to mount issu..I have my floppy mounted at /floppy..yet when I type mount as a user, it doesn't show any reference to /floppy being mounted |
| 17:13.16 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 17:13.29 | Bradipo | Can your user ``cat /etc/mtab'' |
| 17:13.35 | Bradipo | That's where all the mount points are stored. |
| 17:13.42 | Bradipo | Or rather, live mount points. |
| 17:14.19 | Bonez39 | cat /etc/mtab lists only a partial list...doesn't show what should be mounting |
| 17:14.23 | brailsmt_ | is /floppy in your /etc/fstab? |
| 17:14.32 | Bradipo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.37 | Bonez39 | can I post my /etc/fstab here? or should I post to #flood, so you can see it? |
| 17:14.51 | Bradipo | #flood would be better. |
| 17:14.55 | Bradipo | Or even just /query |
| 17:15.28 | Bonez39 | ok, take a look..it's in there now |
| 17:16.09 | Bradipo | I missed it. |
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| 17:16.14 | Bradipo | Just send it to me via /query |
| 17:16.31 | brailsmt_ | it looks fine to me... |
| 17:18.06 | Bonez39 | what happened? ok, in query |
| 17:18.08 | Bradipo | All mounted points should show up in /etc/mtab |
| 17:18.21 | Bradipo | All mountable points will be in /etc/fstab |
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| 17:49.15 | Bonez39 | brad? |
| 17:49.18 | Bonez39 | I think he's afk |
| 17:49.23 | Bradipo | I'm here. |
| 17:49.31 | Bradipo | What's afk? |
| 17:50.02 | Bradipo | The only thing I can think of about the floppy is that it isn't mounted properly. |
| 17:50.09 | Bradipo | Or doesn't have the right filesystem on it. |
| 17:53.04 | Bonez39 | if you are going to format a floppy, what utility do you use? |
| 17:53.23 | Bonez39 | I try the gfloppy utility on my debian system, and it fails since I am not root when I run it... |
| 17:59.17 | Jayce^ | Bradipo: afk == away from keyboard |
| 18:14.57 | Bradipo | Bonez39: You can just use mkfs to format the floppy. |
| 18:15.21 | Bradipo | But if you are going to be using this floppy in Windows make sure that it is formatted with the FAT filesystem. |
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| 19:13.49 | han_solo | brailsmt: you there? |
| 19:13.49 | han_solo | brailsmt: didn't see you there today; Dr. Clement introduced the web server lab. asked him after class and he says we can do it in whatever language we want |
| 19:15.09 | Jayce^ | gee, I wonder what language that will be :) |
| 19:15.23 | Jayce^ | so, you just have to write a web server in your language of choice? |
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| 19:20.29 | fugalh | The byu network mystery thickens. Now I can see my server just fine (completely outside byu's network) but not google or anything else |
| 19:20.39 | han_solo | yup |
| 19:20.39 | han_solo | just get (ie not post or put) and cgi |
| 19:20.39 | fugalh | and from my server, I can see the world just fine |
| 19:21.41 | Jayce^ | interesting...can you use any pre-made packages to support your code, or do you have to write everything? |
| 19:22.08 | levi_ | Just leave BYU. Worked for me. ;) |
| 19:22.12 | fugalh | heh |
| 19:22.25 | fugalh | jayce^: there's not much to pre-make is there? |
| 19:22.42 | fugalh | an http server is fairly simple. but if you mean like url code and so on we can |
| 19:23.16 | Jayce^ | fugalh: I mean like using cpan if it were in perl.. then it would be easy to far surpass the requirements.. |
| 19:23.22 | fugalh | the idea of the lab is to be useful but give us a break and let people catch up (most of the other labs build upon eachother) |
| 19:23.50 | fugalh | I think short of using an actual HTTP server module we can |
| 19:24.34 | Jayce^ | check out the webmin code.. very simple webserver, in Perl, but uses cpan well to add stuff like ssl.. |
| 19:27.01 | Mecworks | Have a quick DNS question. Should mail servers (MX) be A records or can they be CNAMEs? |
| 19:27.17 | fugalh | cool. this assignment is going to be one of those minimal effort ones. not interesting, i'd rather spend time hacking mutt or writing my compiler. :) |
| 19:27.26 | fugalh | They should be A |
| 19:27.30 | Mecworks | thx |
| 19:27.45 | Mecworks | That's what I thought but just wanted to make sure. |
| 19:27.47 | fugalh | Bradipo can fill you in on why. I don't remember why, just that bradipo is emphatic about it. :) |
| 19:30.32 | Mecworks | 8^) |
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| 19:38.31 | fugalh | ibot, why you been flooding? |
| 19:38.31 | | fugalh: bugger all, i dunno |
| 19:38.39 | fugalh | that's no excuse, ibot. |
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| 20:49.00 | Bradipo | There are certain situations where an MX record can point to a CNAME, but it should be avoided. |
| 20:50.43 | Bradipo | But then again, you don't even need an MX record (unless your domain is a CNAME) |
| 20:50.47 | Bradipo | Mecworks: You still here? :-) |
| 20:51.58 | Mecworks | yes |
| 20:52.23 | Mecworks | I set it up as an A record. |
| 20:53.01 | Bradipo | That's best. |
| 20:53.14 | Bradipo | But if you don't have an MX record and all you have is an A record then you would be fine as well. |
| 20:53.29 | Bradipo | MTAs will lookup an MX record if it exists, otherwise they send it to the A record. |
| 20:53.35 | Mecworks | cool. I also have an MX record |
| 21:12.46 | Bradipo | Mecworks: http://mailman.powerdns.com/pipermail/pdns-users/2002-December/000233.html |
| 21:13.07 | Bradipo | Mecworks: http://dougbarton.net/bind-users/mx.html |
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