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| 00:18.37 | Bradipo | Do motherboards exist which have more than 16 IRQs? |
| 00:19.44 | neybar | short answer... no. You can change architetures though |
| 00:20.52 | Bradipo | Hmm, probably not an option. |
| 00:20.56 | Bradipo | Like what Alpha? |
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| 00:53.04 | Jayce^ | mac, sparc, alpha.. IRQ hell is an intel issue |
| 01:36.18 | TimRiker | SLLUG? |
| 01:36.37 | TimRiker | smp boxes seem to have more interrupts. |
| 02:31.28 | han_solo | I was quite the irq wrangler back in my win3.1/95/98 days |
| 02:38.09 | Jayce^ | everybody had to be back then.. |
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| 05:13.40 | brailsmt | how do I use a keyserver with gpg? do I have to manually add my key and then manually downlaod all the keys I want? how does it work? will gpg go try to fetch keys when it sees one that it doesn't know about? |
| 05:26.13 | Jayce^ | should have attended the plug meeting :) |
| 05:26.46 | Jayce^ | usually it's up to the app using gpg to call gpg to get a key it doesn't know about.. like mutt or whatever.. |
| 05:54.05 | brailsmt | ok, well i use mutt, so i guess I'll need to look at man muttrc... |
| 05:54.29 | brailsmt | i wasn't concerned with security until someone started spoofing my email address... (dumb, i know) |
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| 08:16.34 | bbeattie | Mecworks: get some sleep! :) |
| 08:51.55 | kryptik[home] | anyone still up here? |
| 08:51.58 | kryptik[home] | I need some help. |
| 08:52.22 | kryptik[home] | I want to add a path to the PATH environment variable with out erasing what is already there |
| 09:03.38 | kryptik[home] | i found it |
| 09:03.53 | kryptik[home] | it was PATH=$PATH:/new/path |
| 09:04.02 | kryptik[home] | yay. |
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| 19:36.57 | han_solo | hi Bonez39 |
| 19:37.03 | han_solo | any luck with that palm? anyone else here use a usb palm? |
| 19:40.03 | han_solo | Bonez39 has trouble getting his palm to sync. the visor module is loaded and syslog says all the right things, and permissions are good, but jpilot and pilot-sync don't talk to it (/dev/ttyUSB1) |
| 19:42.25 | Jayce^ | only problem I had with mine last time I tried, was copying new stuff to it... |
| 19:42.27 | han_solo | ~$ ls |
| 19:42.29 | han_solo | bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 19:42.32 | han_solo | what could that mean? |
| 19:42.39 | Jayce^ | uuuhhhh.. |
| 19:42.43 | han_solo | (after logging into that machine with ssh) |
| 19:43.08 | han_solo | Jayce^: He did already. He's running a new debian install. I was helping him configure it last night |
| 19:43.09 | Jayce^ | j00 b33|\| h4><0r3d |
| 19:43.36 | Jayce^ | ahh.. then you'd help more than me.. only stuff I've done with my visor was through mandrake.. so I dont' know what it did.. |
| 19:43.40 | han_solo | that's what I'm afraid of |
| 19:44.19 | Jayce^ | last time I set it up manually was about 3 or 4 years ago... a lot has changed since then.. |
| 19:45.23 | han_solo | hmm. if it's true maybe I can get some credibility back. |
| 19:45.23 | han_solo | I used to sysadmin there, the technical guy there (really small operation) got on a high horse about using redhat and I got on his not-quite-good side |
| 19:45.54 | han_solo | so I backed off and don't really do anything anymore. But I still check in from time to time and the owner and I are on good terms - he hosts my email server and used to rent me his basement. :) |
| 19:46.20 | han_solo | anyway, if they've been hacked the technical guy (in seattle) will have to give me some leash to fix it up :) |
| 19:48.11 | Jayce^ | dunno, you could have some process that hasn't killed off it's children.. maybe hit a max limit.. |
| 19:48.28 | Jayce^ | we got this error with something liek that once.. |
| 19:48.59 | han_solo | yeah, I'm thinking it's a process limit thing |
| 19:49.32 | Jayce^ | what's the load on the box? |
| 19:55.40 | han_solo | heh |
| 19:55.40 | han_solo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.40 | han_solo | that's quite the load |
| 19:55.52 | han_solo | Jayce^: you still have that visor? |
| 19:56.14 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:56.30 | Jayce^ | yeah, you're capped on proc's |
| 19:56.33 | han_solo | just don't use it? |
| 19:56.35 | Jayce^ | visor prism.. |
| 19:56.52 | Jayce^ | I do, just haven't synched in about a year |
| 19:58.10 | han_solo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.10 | han_solo | lots and lots of those |
| 19:58.56 | Jayce^ | ouch.. what's cron trying to do (and why isnt' it finishing?) is it waiting on some locked thing? |
| 20:01.30 | Jayce^ | dangit.. found a program that we want.. but it's in ruby.. might have to put it on one of our boxes :) |
| 20:02.26 | han_solo | because of problems, or you just don't believe in sync? |
| 20:02.26 | han_solo | or is it that you don't like nsync? |
| 20:02.30 | han_solo | 430 of those CRON lines |
| 20:04.21 | Jayce^ | heh.. some difficulties.. then no open usb ports.. then just never resetting it up after a HD crash.. |
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| 20:08.15 | han_solo | syslogd is taking all of the cpu |
| 20:08.15 | han_solo | Jan 12 06:29:34 laforge syslogd 1.3-3#33.1: restart (remote reception). |
| 20:08.15 | han_solo | Jan 12 06:29:34 laforge syslogd: select: Bad file descriptor |
| 20:08.15 | han_solo | Jan 12 06:30:05 laforge last message repeated 1794279 times |
| 20:08.21 | han_solo | 6156 lines of mostly 'repeated (about 3000000) times' |
| 20:08.25 | Jayce^ | ow |
| 20:08.48 | han_solo | restarting syslog brought the load down, got rid of the CRON processes |
| 20:19.52 | han_solo | (they turned into real processes and did their work) |
| 20:23.39 | Jayce^ | wow |
| 20:30.55 | han_solo | the question remains: why did syslog go berzerk? |
| 20:31.34 | Bradipo | Because it isn't reliable. :-) |
| 20:31.38 | Bradipo | I recommend using multilog instead. |
| 20:32.10 | Bradipo | Of course, that only works if your applications log to stderr. |
| 20:32.31 | Bradipo | I believe there is also a syslog replacement. |
| 20:32.37 | Bradipo | Called socklog. |
| 20:32.48 | Jayce^ | there is also metalog |
| 20:38.37 | han_solo | noting my lag, I wonder if there's a freenode replacement. :/ |
| 20:39.41 | han_solo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.02 | han_solo | de: unable to read inode block - inode=49314, block=98313 |
| 20:45.02 | han_solo | can I tell which partition it is from the ide0(3,10) part? |
| 20:45.59 | neybar | anybody now of a good program that can "clean" up code generated by word/wysiwyg editors? |
| 20:46.11 | han_solo | code generated by word? |
| 20:46.16 | neybar | html sorry |
| 20:46.22 | han_solo | tidy |
| 20:46.45 | neybar | that tidy's it but it doesn't really get rid of crappy code |
| 20:46.57 | han_solo | but it won't take the bad design out |
| 20:46.57 | han_solo | or the font tags |
| 20:47.02 | Jayce^ | check freshmeat.. I remember seeing one.. |
| 20:48.25 | neybar | my great aunt has done some serious genealogy work. For some reason she created it first in wordperfect, then just recently put it all in word. Now everyone wants what she has online. Since I'm the programmer (and have lots of freetime...) I get to do that. |
| 20:48.46 | Jayce^ | get the gedcom... parse it.. |
| 20:49.08 | neybar | it's oral family history stories pics etc. |
| 20:49.30 | Jayce^ | still, shoudl be able to link it.. gedcom allows for some of that.. |
| 20:49.36 | Jayce^ | then it's indexed.. |
| 20:50.52 | neybar | perhaps |
| 20:51.43 | Jayce^ | there was some discussion about that though a while ago. .and I remember seeing a tidy-like script specifically for word documents/html.. |
| 20:55.40 | Bonez39 | jayce...do you use Win4Lin, or know anyone here who does? others? |
| 20:56.38 | Jayce^ | no.. tried it a long time ago.. but haven't used it in ages.. |
| 20:58.52 | Bonez39 | how about OpenOffice? |
| 20:58.56 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 20:59.22 | neybar | what about openoffice? |
| 21:05.26 | han_solo | ahh. fun |
| 21:05.26 | han_solo | have you tried openoffice? does it output html? |
| 21:05.26 | han_solo | if not, it saves in xml format - maybe you can set up an xslt stylesheet to transform into real html |
| 21:05.28 | han_solo | for that matter I've heard rumors that a recent or upcoming word will/does save in xml too |
| 21:07.45 | Jayce^ | openoffice does.. |
| 21:08.23 | Jayce^ | ok, how do you tell cvs to undo a previous commit? |
| 21:08.54 | han_solo | i think we should have a friendly contest of some sort within/between UGs |
| 21:08.54 | han_solo | maybe programming, admin challenges, or something |
| 21:08.58 | han_solo | a race to see who can get a fresh box set up the fastest (obviously if we can find a box, and it probably couldn't be done in parallel unless lots of people have free partitions) |
| 21:10.41 | Jayce^ | actually, I wanted to do a trivia contest.. |
| 21:11.16 | Jayce^ | also, see if any local companies want to have teams.. verio vs. caldera type thing as well as UUG vs PLUG vs SLLUG |
| 21:13.15 | Jayce^ | hrmm.. geek olympics.. multiple events? |
| 21:13.54 | Jayce^ | given a box they know nothing about, get a working custom compiled kernel, with the smallest size, in the least time? |
| 21:14.19 | neybar | what distro? the first one to get sgml running. |
| 21:14.44 | Jayce^ | oooh.. so it's a week long event :) |
| 21:14.52 | neybar | lol |
| 21:15.29 | neybar | depends on the computer and bandwidth... sgml on a k6-2 350 probably isn't ideal... |
| 21:16.02 | han_solo | cd $CVSROOT; vim file_of_interest,v |
| 21:18.38 | han_solo | woohoo. You know the olypmics started in geece |
| 21:20.08 | han_solo | i bet we could get a lot of really cool 'events' |
| 21:20.24 | han_solo | heck, if we charged $$ or volunteer time for admission it could be a pretty decent setup. |
| 21:20.44 | han_solo | there's enough geeky companies nearby that might be interested |
| 21:20.55 | Jayce^ | would be nice.. |
| 21:21.24 | Jayce^ | maybe get some prizes.. |
| 21:21.58 | Jayce^ | as well as softare.. things like a hack the UnitedLinux challenge, or something.. they could provide some stuff.. |
| 21:22.24 | Jayce^ | what events could we have? |
| 21:22.42 | Jayce^ | I'd do the trivia one.. like the "internet Quiz show" at oscon.. |
| 21:23.16 | Jayce^ | hey han_solo, you not running jabber anymore? |
| 21:29.01 | han_solo | not to mention universities |
| 21:29.16 | Jayce^ | yeah |
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| 22:05.56 | bbeattie | TimRiker: Are you around? |
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| 23:45.11 | Jayce^ | what messenger client do you use? |
| 23:51.54 | Bonez39 | have been using Gaim....and will reinstall it ..... |
| 23:52.12 | Bonez39 | I was running caldera and now have switched over to debian... |
| 23:52.39 | Bonez39 | thanks to help from the jedi here....Han_solo..;) |
| 23:53.14 | Jayce^ | he mentioned that.. |
| 23:53.21 | Jayce^ | yeah, gaim with jabber is good.. |
| 23:54.08 | Bonez39 | I need to learn how to find friends who use jabber though....;) I have the protocol added but have never messaged anyone with jabber.. |
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| 23:57.45 | Bonez39 | is it just your nick here..'jayce^' then? |
| 23:58.59 | Jayce^ | no, my jabber account is Jayce@jabber.com |
| 23:59.14 | kryptik[home] | what is jabber |
| 23:59.26 | Jayce^ | that's the usual format for them.. like an email.. |
| 23:59.44 | Jayce^ | kryptik[home]: www.jabber.com (.org) it's an open source messenger.. very very good protocol.. |